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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 05/08/2005 00:42:08
Think when you agree to the EULA, you agree that CCP owns all digital assets. Can't sue for something you don't have, and under a system that allows it :P
Btw, nice article..the WoW bashing is funny and very much accurate. I'm also thinking of opening a second irc channel on coldfront called #eve-ego, its sole resident will be HellGremlin.. whose existance can't be contained in one channel alone. :|
edit: also, if you were in beta you'll remember eve had its fair share of lawsuits (*cough* ragnar *cough*)
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:42:00 -
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$16000 in damages. In measurable damages. I wonder how long it will be before we see our first lawsuit.
I would not put it past some dunbass lawyer here in the US to take on such a case...
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Lord Dynastron
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Posted - 2005.08.05 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
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$16000 in damages. In measurable damages. I wonder how long it will be before we see our first lawsuit.
I would not put it past some dunbass lawyer here in the US to take on such a case...
I suspect the publicity would be massive.
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.08.05 01:09:00 -
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I suspect the publicity would be massive.
The wrong kind of publicity...
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.08.05 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
It's a pretty cool article, but not sure if sensationalizing corp theft is the way to go in a PC game mag?
That's not really the point. The point is freedom. Freedom to abuse, freedom to excel, freedom to be something.
What GHSC pulled off (which was evil, etc) could never, ever have been done in any other game.
Just reading the history thread here in the general forums you'll find dozens of events just like that - impossible anywhere else.
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.08.05 01:52:00 -
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That's not really the point. The point is freedom. Freedom to abuse, freedom to excel, freedom to be something.
What GHSC pulled off (which was evil, etc) could never, ever have been done in any other game.
Just reading the history thread here in the general forums you'll find dozens of events just like that - impossible anywhere else.
That type of article may just attract more scum to EVE... Wrong type of publicity IMO...
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Nanus Parkite
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Posted - 2005.08.05 02:18:00 -
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The reason what they did could only be pulled off in EVE is because EVE is the only game to have shared assets that can be accessed and moved by lone persons. If you had a guild wallet in WoW exactly the same thing would be possible.
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SpaceDrake Storyteller
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Posted - 2005.08.05 02:23:00 -
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Normally I don't share private chat logs, especially when I'm discussing RP possibilities with someone, but let me post a little something Mr.Evil(TM) himself and I discussed earlier on IRC...
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<SpaceDrake> BTW, your silence toward the earlier "Good Lucca vs. Bad Lucca" comments surprises me. I'd have thought you'd have some comment.
<HellGremlin> Good Lucca > Bad Lucca.
<HellGremlin> You know my opinion on the matter, bad has been done to death in Eve, and very few try to be good.
<HellGremlin> To be bad and pull it off, you have to innovate to a level I'm not sure is available anymore
<SpaceDrake> Yeah, while we have no good guys, as per my comment in The Thread(TM).
<SpaceDrake> I mean, I'm basically set on Good Lucca now, just because I see the potential for a lot of fun.
Food for thought.
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Lord Artemis
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Posted - 2005.08.05 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn
Edited by: Graelyn on 02/08/2005 06:17:24
An honest question....
Which of these would inspire folks to join EVE more?
The exploits of GH-SC's months-long infiltration and theft of a multi-billion ISK organisation?
Or two months after being declared 'dead' by GH-SC, that organisation literally redrawing the map after a successful campaign in the Bleak Lands against all comers, and forcing a major NPC faction to it's knees? (a first for EVE)
Then again, kinda makes for a glorious story arc if ya combine the two....
in the most unbiased way possible, i see two pretty amazing things 1) greatest theft of eve 2) greatest recovery from the greatest theft
bottom line - if your playing eve for the right reasons, no amount of victory or tragedy will make you quit
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SpaceDrake Storyteller
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Posted - 2005.08.05 02:42:00 -
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Not to spam, but the funny continues. I had to cancel my WoW account since I realized I haven't played since late June. No reason to fling money at those idiots if I won't play.
Not only do they already realized they're in trouble, but... oh. The irony.
Linkage
The full spectrum indeed.
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2005.08.05 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: SpaceDrake Storyteller
Not to spam, but the funny continues. I had to cancel my WoW account since I realized I haven't played since late June. No reason to fling money at those idiots if I won't play.
Not only do they already realized they're in trouble, but... oh. The irony.
Linkage
The full spectrum indeed.
Thats hot....like my sig
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.08.05 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: SpaceDrake Storyteller
Not to spam, but the funny continues. I had to cancel my WoW account since I realized I haven't played since late June. No reason to fling money at those idiots if I won't play.
Not only do they already realized they're in trouble, but... oh. The irony.
Linkage
The full spectrum indeed.
Ohh, now that is good.
I loved the article. That level of publicite will definately help the game.
Love it.
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Stuart85
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Posted - 2005.08.05 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Page Three - My Bloody Valentine
Heh, name dropping a cool band. Nice. Or is it the horror movie?
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Mr Popov
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Posted - 2005.08.05 04:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ryctor
Originally by: SpaceDrake Storyteller
Not to spam, but the funny continues. I had to cancel my WoW account since I realized I haven't played since late June. No reason to fling money at those idiots if I won't play.
Not only do they already realized they're in trouble, but... oh. The irony.
Linkage
The full spectrum indeed.
Thats hot....like my sig
Both very hot indeed
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2005.08.05 04:40:00 -
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Both articles were a great read.
My mates whom have never played eve and generally arent even interested in mmorpgs read pcg's article on the ghsc heist with great interest, hell it even made them want to give eve a try.
Unfortunately i know that they will ultimately be dissapointed. If only the game was a wee bit easier on new players..
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SpaceDrake Storyteller
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Posted - 2005.08.05 04:54:00 -
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Help make it easier then. Vet monies FTW.
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.08.05 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn
1 Mil goes to the first to do so. (post scans)
Well, I'm a man of my word.
Not your average Amarrian Loyalist....
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2005.08.05 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Artemis
Originally by: Graelyn
Edited by: Graelyn on 02/08/2005 06:17:24
An honest question....
Which of these would inspire folks to join EVE more?
The exploits of GH-SC's months-long infiltration and theft of a multi-billion ISK organisation?
Or two months after being declared 'dead' by GH-SC, that organisation literally redrawing the map after a successful campaign in the Bleak Lands against all comers, and forcing a major NPC faction to it's knees? (a first for EVE)
Then again, kinda makes for a glorious story arc if ya combine the two....
in the most unbiased way possible, i see two pretty amazing things 1) greatest theft of eve 2) greatest recovery from the greatest theft
bottom line - if your playing eve for the right reasons, no amount of victory or tragedy will make you quit
hear hear, that's the right motivation :)
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.08.05 06:59:00 -
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That was a great read :D
[Come to Daddy]
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.08.05 07:28:00 -
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read the articles last night, buying the magazine today.
\o/ for EVE
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Skarsnik
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Posted - 2005.08.05 07:44:00 -
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Anyone here think the distribution and copies sold of PCGamer this month might go up becuase of this 
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2005.08.05 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn
Originally by: Graelyn
1 Mil goes to the first to do so. (post scans)
Well, I'm a man of my word.
Lol
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The Patriarch
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Posted - 2005.08.05 08:47:00 -
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An honest question....
Which of these would inspire folks to join EVE more?
EVE has more THAT virtual way life thinking
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Mechanical Death
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Posted - 2005.08.05 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn
Originally by: Graelyn
1 Mil goes to the first to do so. (post scans)
Well, I'm a man of my word.
If this game is so hard on n00bs, save the Mil and send it to the 1st n00b you meet. But if you insist on sending it to the 1st person that posted scans, I'll take beer and cookies instead. Thnx
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Ramov Tinoga
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Posted - 2005.08.05 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
And finally, here it is.
- Page One - Murder Incorporated
- Page Two - Et Tu, Arenis?
- Page Three - My Bloody Valentine
- Page Four - Morally Bankrupt
This article is a good read, thanks for providing the scans for us foreigners. 
While I stand unbiased against any kind of ingame theft (CCP owns it all anyway) and the work you put in your endeavour, you're crossing the line there (taken from Istvaan's statement on page 2):
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We will readily massacre an entire corporation and hound their fleeing members right out of the game if they transgress against one of our pilots and do not make appropriate and timely restitution.
You can't threaten to drive away CCP's customers. 
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.08.05 13:17:00 -
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You can't threaten to drive away CCP's customers.
I've never been a fan of players who take up that crusade...
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abcdasdasd
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Posted - 2005.08.05 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: abcdasdasd on 05/08/2005 13:19:47
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Kar'Dargo
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Posted - 2005.08.05 13:19:00 -
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The other day (prioir to this article) I saw Istavaan in local space and I immediately went on alert. The guy's reputation has that effect on you!
I conve'ed him and congratulated him on his excellent heist. He laughed and thanked me and we chatted for a few minutes, nice guy to bo honest with you.
This story is, in fact, why I start to play this game. In deciding which MMO to play I always read forums for a month or so as you can learn alot about a game by reading from its players. When I stumbled onto this amazing tale I was amazed and entralled by the details and the strong player reaction. As the PC Gamer article points out, in what game world can such a tale of intrigue, betrayal and passion be created?? So what if a few players quit as a result, more people are joining because of the press this has cuased for the game.
Also the complete lack of comment from the US CEO has lead me to believe she is in an indefensible position, her repuation was not good it seems. Perhaps she got some overdue Karma, in spades...
Well done gents.
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2005.08.05 13:26:00 -
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Normally I don't share private chat logs, especially when I'm discussing RP possibilities with someone, but let me post a little something Mr.Evil(TM) himself and I discussed earlier on IRC...
I was right - you haven't changed one bit !!
MOOrovingian  "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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Dragon Master
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Posted - 2005.08.05 13:34:00 -
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Why are people so willing to assume the victims are guilty when a self confessed corp thief and liar says something?
I'm more impressed by the maturity and calmness of the UQS members that have posted so far. I'd believe a UQS member over a person going on some massive ego trip acting like they have the right to determine who can or cannot play this game. |
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