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Pattrick Henry Free New Eden 0	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:25:00 - [1] - Quote My fellow High Sec Industrialists, When our forefathers found themselves staring at the gates of EVE they had visions of a grand new world. This world would be a place where future generations could work together or independently, to build our own lives and our own futures. We sustain our livelihoods by mining local resources and selling our wares on the local markets. By choosing to exist in this Space, we have thereby accepted the boundaries that CCP and Concord has put into place. They have created sectors in Space that have defined rules of engagement, all of which have been inspired by the needs of Industrialists and Fighters both. Everyone who comes to EVE starts in High Sec. It is the sector that creates a sense of security, to help each Pilot train skills and prepare for more dangerous sectors. We as new Pilots create alliances with other Pilots by building Corporations and these Corporations grow in High Sec until they are strong enough to make the move to more profitable Low or Null Sec. It is this maturation process that allows us to move forward with the skills needed to survive. Without the time in High Sec to cultivate these necessary skills, a premature move into Low/Null would likely end in catastrophe for the Pilot or Corporation. These are the proven methods of being a successful Pilot and growing a successful Corporation in EVE. But now there exists a group that threatens our existence. The New Order cult claims that the High Sec Industrialist is ruining EVE, but we stand up to say they are wrong. The New Order cult, which spurns the entrepreneurial spirit, which vaunts the spirit and conquest, which derives strength and perverted pleasure from persecution, uses with pitiless brutality the threat of murderous force. This cult cannot ever be allowed to gain a stronghold on EVE. The New Order cultGÇÖs effort is about gaining power against the 99%... the hard-working, blue-collar Industrialist who is simply trying to survive, by imposing a random set of self-aggrandizing rules to give this cult some semblance of meaning in EVE. They cannot gain relevance in the low security systems so they come to High Sec to pick on Pilots who have shown no aggression towards them in the least. The claim that the High Sec Industrialist is ruining EVE is preposterous. They claim the Industrialist lobbies CCP for a change in High Sec rules, thus making it harder for Low and Null Sec Pilots. They have not realized that it is exactly the actions the New Order cult that are the genesis of these rule changes. They refuse to accept the order of EVE, so they break them and then cry about the consequences. If they allowed High Sec Industrialists to build up our operations, we would be very willing to move to Low and Null when the time is right. But their constant harassment in High Sec delays that move indefinitely. The cult hides behind their propaganda by saying there will be no more New Eden if High Sec Industrialists survive, but if that is the case, why offer us a way to survive by paying a 10mil ISK ransom? The New Order claims to accept a ransom in return for non-aggression, but not one person believes there is a magical GÇ£listGÇ¥ of miner names that will prevent all attacks in the future. There is a story James 315, the leader of the New Order cult, says in his ramblings online. He speaks of an orca Pilot he is in the process of attacking, and talks of his conversation with the Pilot under fire. He says that he offered survival to the Pilot if he paid a ransom, and when the Pilot paid, he continued the gank and podkilled the capsule. The Pilot had paid the ransom but was still killed by the cult. Why? In James 315GÇÖs own words to the orca Pilot, GÇ£YouGÇÖre my enemy. I lied.GÇ¥ We shall not fall victim to his traps any longer. We shall not be led down the road to being GÇ£under the protectionGÇ¥ of the New Order cult. In short time, we would be confronted with demands with which we shall no doubt be invited to comply. Those demands would likely mean the surrender of more of our rights for the interest of their cult. It is for this reason that I am announcing a new alliance. This alliance will stand for the rights of all Industrialists in New Eden, beginning with our High Sec Industrialists. We will band together to protect each other from the terrorism of the New Order cult, and fight for our right to exist in New Eden. We are a collection of miners, manufacturers, traders, and fighters, who all believe that there is room in New Eden for everyone, as long as they follow the rules and accept the consequences of breaking those rules. We are High Sec Industrialists and we will work together defend our way of life. Pattrick Henry High Sec Industrialist
Kate stark 257	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:28:00 - [2] - Quote tl;dr. Obvious Goon alt that's never mined a day in his life(!)
Ptraci Militaris Industries Northern Coalition. 1298	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:29:00 - [3] - Quote Pattrick Henry wrote: We are High Sec Industrialists and we will work together defend our way of life. I will believe that when I see it.
Varius Xeral Galactic Trade Syndicate 507	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:31:00 - [4] - Quote Man, james has a LOT of alts.
Karl Hobb Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium 1228	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:32:00 - [5] - Quote 10 million is quite reasonable for a year's respite, I don't know why people complain. Also, nice speech, let's see some content in-game. If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 2413	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:33:00 - [6] - Quote Another man who swears that herding cats is easy or that complacent highseccers will band together for anything, just because of a little bumping. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Ustrello Amok. Goonswarm Federation 81	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:36:00 - [7] - Quote three fifteen for csm8
RAGE QU1T Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 84	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:38:00 - [8] - Quote tl;dr. No fucks were given
Joran Dravius Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 132	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:38:00 - [9] - Quote Pattrick Henry wrote: the hard-working, blue-collar Industrialist who is simply trying to survive Trying to survive by subverting the sandbox and turning it into a themepark where NPCs and game mechanics protect you. The only good system is a player run one. Concord should be removed. If you want protection without doing it yourself hire mercs to do it. I don't care how as long as it's player-based. Ustrello wrote: three fifteen for csm8 Seriously. I'm tempted to vote for him just for causing so many threads like this.
Nexus Day Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau 445	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:38:00 - [10] - Quote The New Order actually attacked someone? Now I know the OP is telling a lie. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
Abrazzar 899	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:39:00 - [11] - Quote We all just need to group together in a region so we can defend ourselves against the suicide monkeys. And then when they all come to pop our mining vessels, we dock up and jump.... ....into clones in a far away region and mine in peace. Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1800	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:39:00 - [12] - Quote Isn't there an entire sub forum specifically for this RP stuff? Why can't you people just ***** about the guy? Why do every one of you have to roleplay the entire thing in a novelette sized post? And you guys are never going to do anything. You're to busy writting these long ass posts about the guy to actually work together.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1800	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:41:00 - [13] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: We all just need to group together in a region so we can defend ourselves against the suicide monkeys. And then when they all come to pop our mining vessels, we dock up and jump.... ....into clones in a far away region and mine in peace. Or you could stop letting him gank you. So, you're solution is to "work together" so that you can "dock" when he comes to gank you? I hope you're not the smart one.
Nexus Day Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau 447	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:46:00 - [14] - Quote Joran Dravius wrote: Pattrick Henry wrote: the hard-working, blue-collar Industrialist who is simply trying to survive Trying to survive by subverting the sandbox and turning it into a themepark where NPCs and game mechanics protect you. The only good system is a player run one. Concord should be removed. If you want protection without doing it yourself hire mercs to do it. I don't care how as long as it's player-based. Couple points oh hooded one. If it is a sandbox then having an area that is a theme park shouldn't bother you. Go find another part of the sanbox if it does. Concord removed= insta decline in playerbase. Congrats on suggesting CCP should kill EvE. Hire mercs. Capital idea. Half the time they kill the people that hire them. Anyway, the OP talks about taking matters into his own hands and you say he is trying to create a them park. Based on your stance you should be applauding him/her. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
Abrazzar 899	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:47:00 - [15] - Quote Natsett Amuinn wrote: Abrazzar wrote: We all just need to group together in a region so we can defend ourselves against the suicide monkeys. And then when they all come to pop our mining vessels, we dock up and jump.... ....into clones in a far away region and mine in peace. Or you could stop letting him gank you. So, you're solution is to "work together" so that you can "dock" when he comes to gank you? I hope you're not the smart one. I see reading isn't your strong point. Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1800	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:48:00 - [16] - Quote Nexus Day wrote: Joran Dravius wrote: Pattrick Henry wrote: the hard-working, blue-collar Industrialist who is simply trying to survive Trying to survive by subverting the sandbox and turning it into a themepark where NPCs and game mechanics protect you. The only good system is a player run one. Concord should be removed. If you want protection without doing it yourself hire mercs to do it. I don't care how as long as it's player-based. Couple points oh hooded one. If it is a sandbox then having an area that is a theme park shouldn't bother you. Go find another part of the sanbox if it does. Then it's not a sandbox, it's two games on one server. WTF is wrong with some of you people?
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 1086	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:49:00 - [17] - Quote Pattrick Henry wrote: We are High Sec Industrialists and we will work together defend our way of life. You don't speak for anyone but yourself and highsec industrialists on the whole won't do a damned thing about anything. They are passive, stationary lumps that just sit there and zap rocks. The most they will ever do is whine on the forums, because taking in-game action to protect their style of play is totally contrary to their entire attitude towards the game.
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4552	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:50:00 - [18] - Quote isn't this like the eighth one of these grand highsec alliances? couldn't you have just joined one of the first seven?
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1800	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:50:00 - [19] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Natsett Amuinn wrote: Abrazzar wrote: We all just need to group together in a region so we can defend ourselves against the suicide monkeys. And then when they all come to pop our mining vessels, we dock up and jump.... ....into clones in a far away region and mine in peace. Or you could stop letting him gank you. So, you're solution is to "work together" so that you can "dock" when he comes to gank you? I hope you're not the smart one. I see reading isn't your strong point. You mean like when I read someone say that the miners should work together to dock up? Yeah, that was actually pretty hard to get through; I'm not gonna lie. I feel for you, docking is hard ****. All those buttons you have to push. The difficulty you must have. You should let me know where you mine, maybe I can get a few people to come work with you to dock up.
Abrazzar 899	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:52:00 - [20] - Quote Natsett Amuinn wrote: Abrazzar wrote: Natsett Amuinn wrote: Abrazzar wrote: We all just need to group together in a region so we can defend ourselves against the suicide monkeys. And then when they all come to pop our mining vessels, we dock up and jump.... ....into clones in a far away region and mine in peace. Or you could stop letting him gank you. So, you're solution is to "work together" so that you can "dock" when he comes to gank you? I hope you're not the smart one. I see reading isn't your strong point. You mean like when I read someone say that the miners should work together to dock up? Yeah, that was actually pretty hard to get through; I'm not gonna lie. I feel for you, docking is hard ****. All those buttons you have to push. The difficulty you must have. You should let me know where you mine, maybe I can get a few people to come work with you to dock up. Nah, I rather have a chat with Veldspar and Scordite. Much more mentally stimulating. Mining Overhaul Nothing changed since 2008.
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 835	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:52:00 - [21] - Quote Good Lord. This again. Ptraci wrote: Pattrick Henry wrote: We are High Sec Industrialists and we will work together defend our way of life. I will believe that when I see it. Quite. Natsett Amuinn wrote: Abrazzar wrote: We all just need to group together in a region so we can defend ourselves against the suicide monkeys. And then when they all come to pop our mining vessels, we dock up and jump.... ....into clones in a far away region and mine in peace. Or you could stop letting him gank you. So, you're solution is to "work together" so that you can "dock" when he comes to gank you? ...And mine elsewhere in peace. ^Kinda important bit there. In short, when someone annoying shows up, ditch him. Works for me. Or it would, if I gave a moldy rat's backside about mining. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. Malcanis for CSM8
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 835	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:56:00 - [22] - Quote Waitaminutehere... Why am I bothering? I don't give a moldy rat's backside! Laters, folks.... Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. Malcanis for CSM8
Eurydia Vespasian Nova Insula Mining and Industrial 1260	Posted - 2013.02.23 00:57:00 - [23] - Quote i'm sick of threads like this.
La Nariz GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 796	Posted - 2013.02.23 01:00:00 - [24] - Quote Pattrick Henry wrote: Pattrick Henry High Sec Industrialist Hello Pattrick Henry, I would not of known who you were if you did not sign your post. Thank you for this insightful information. With such quick thinking and know-how required to sign one's post even though their name is already clearly stated I'm sure you'll be quite a match for James315's "New Order of Highsec." This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team.
Revajin 15 Minute Outliers Novus Dominatum 80	Posted - 2013.02.23 01:02:00 - [25] - Quote Varius Xeral wrote: Man, james has a LOT of alts. Shameless self-promotion works everywhere it seems.
Pattrick Henry Free New Eden 1	Posted - 2013.02.23 01:06:00 - [26] - Quote La Nariz wrote: Pattrick Henry wrote: Pattrick Henry High Sec Industrialist Hello Pattrick Henry, I would not of known who you were if you did not sign your post. Thank you for this insightful information. With such quick thinking and know-how required to sign one's post even though their name is already clearly stated I'm sure you'll be quite a match for James315's "New Order of Highsec." Always sign your name to something you feel strongly about.
STSxLight Corporate Scum Test Friends Please Ignore 20	Posted - 2013.02.23 01:12:00 - [27] - Quote First! "Oh, you think nullsec is your ally. But you merely adopted nullsec; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!"
Eurydia Vespasian Nova Insula Mining and Industrial 1260	Posted - 2013.02.23 01:15:00 - [28] - Quote i didn't see "give me liberty, or give me death!" anywhere in the opening post.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 2414	Posted - 2013.02.23 01:16:00 - [29] - Quote Pattrick Henry wrote: He says that he offered survival to the Pilot if he paid a ransom, and when the Pilot paid, he continued the gank and podkilled the capsule. The Pilot had paid the ransom but was still killed by the cult. Why? In James 315GÇÖs own words to the orca Pilot, GÇ£YouGÇÖre my enemy. I lied.GÇ¥ Youd think this would be a simple thing to offer proof of, yet OP seems to lack any proof beyond his own ramblings. With proof like this, this thread now belongs in the proofless no-mans land that is C&P instead of GD. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Alana Charen-Teng Gordian Knot Holdings 291	Posted - 2013.02.23 01:18:00 - [30] - Quote Eloquence is a rare trait among the rebel miners, as is an understanding of game mechanics. Pattrick Henry wrote: Always sign your name to something you feel strongly about. The Supreme Protector is a gentleman and a scholar! Alana Charen-Teng Agent and Knight of the New Order

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