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Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
506
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Posted - 2013.02.23 00:33:00 -
[1] - Quote
Greetings EVE Pilots!
My name is Senior Recruitment Director Aryndel Vyst, and I've recently been thrusted into this seat of power only to find out that the corporation name of Goonwaffe has been tainted by the lies and deceit of the membership. As a person that believes that a man's word is their bond I want to help rectify this situation for you.
Were you scammed while being recruited by a member of our establishment? Were you told something but blatantly lied to? Then this proposal is for you.
What I am proposing:
I am calling on all victims of New Eden to EVE mail me details of how they were wronged by us. Please include names, dates, and a complete history of what happened. All logs are relevant logs.
What am I going to do for you?
Not only will I reimburse your isk if the GoonSwarm Federation member is found guilty, but I will remove them from our alliance and blacklist them from the CFC. We can also have a discussion on whether or not you'd be a good fit to join our establishment.
What can't I do?
Promise you anything. I will do my best to seek justice for you but I can only do as much as the evidence reveals to me. I also ask that you be patient, I have a pretty steep backlog and will need time to evaluate all entries. If I do not respond immediately please do not be alarmed. Thank you.
I look forward to hearing from you. o7
Fly safe,
Aryndel Vyst Senior Recruitment Director and Authorization Team Officer Office: VFK-IV, Deklein
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Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1732
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Posted - 2013.02.23 00:44:00 -
[2] - Quote
+1
http://i.imgur.com/Meb1Lbn.jpg Amarr Militia - Fweddit - http://fweddit.com Poetic Discourse - http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.com |

Styx Sertan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.02.23 00:54:00 -
[3] - Quote
I'm sorry that I won't be able to participate in this lovely program, I had a fantastic experience once I paid my 500m. Helpful individuals jump freightered all of my stuff to VFK for me and everything. It was like having two men and a space truck. I haven't looked back. |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
1644

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Posted - 2013.02.23 01:00:00 -
[4] - Quote
http://i.imgur.com/EYX5Zi7.gif
Crap... am I allowed to post that in a thread in this section? Community team will correct me if I am wrong right? Game Designer | Team True Grit |
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Marlon Darmazaf
e-L00T Ltd.
13
|
Posted - 2013.02.23 01:06:00 -
[5] - Quote
What if I never was cool enough to be recruitment scammed by Goon Swarm?  So... um... yeah! |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
8094
|
Posted - 2013.02.23 01:08:00 -
[6] - Quote
I was recruitment scammed by Goons... I got in, what a scam  "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |

Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1508
|
Posted - 2013.02.23 01:21:00 -
[7] - Quote
well i'm in trouble |

Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
192
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Posted - 2013.02.23 03:19:00 -
[8] - Quote
Can I show you on the bear where Mittens promised to touch me and then didn't? I was scammed by him like that! :( |

Jonah Gravenstein
Universal Corporate Repossession Inc.
5951
|
Posted - 2013.02.23 04:02:00 -
[9] - Quote
Anya Klibor wrote:Can I show you on the bear where Mittens promised to touch me and then didn't? I was scammed by him like that! :(
Mittens promised to touch you? you lucky git, he wanted me to touch him.
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and everybody in it. |

Orlacc
253
|
Posted - 2013.02.23 04:06:00 -
[10] - Quote
Sniff. Brings back memories of High School. |

BadAssMcKill
Ghost Headquarters The Ghost Army
120
|
Posted - 2013.02.23 04:11:00 -
[11] - Quote
Only if we can use The Mittani as a 3rd party Starships were meant to fly~ |

Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
192
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Posted - 2013.02.23 05:33:00 -
[12] - Quote
BadAssMcKill wrote:Only if we can use The Mittani as a 3rd party
This seems like a completely acceptable and trustworthy idea. Implement it now, CCP...I mean Goons! |

Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
262
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Posted - 2013.02.23 06:35:00 -
[13] - Quote
I commend your honorable initiative. |

Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
330
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Posted - 2013.02.23 07:00:00 -
[14] - Quote
Aryndel Vyst wrote:. All logs are relevant logs. [/b]
What about some fake? |

Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
203
|
Posted - 2013.02.23 07:47:00 -
[15] - Quote
And how much isk is the 'release and administration fee' for the funds that you might get back?  |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
1054
|
Posted - 2013.02.23 08:08:00 -
[16] - Quote
0/10 |

Ashrun Dir
Love for You Circle-Of-Two
15
|
Posted - 2013.02.23 08:50:00 -
[17] - Quote
I see Goonswarm has started prep'ing for this year's alliance panel at fanfest |

Alice Saki
Suddenly Spaced Out Suddenly Spaceships.
31248
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Posted - 2013.02.23 10:44:00 -
[18] - Quote
...They treated me badly out of Eve
...In Planetside 2 kept getting kicked out the goons Galaxy 
I Only wanted to help!  I lack any Moral Fiber :D |

Hibliss
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.02.23 11:54:00 -
[19] - Quote
I am Xayder and I approve this service |

Karynak Idrissil
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2013.02.23 14:35:00 -
[20] - Quote
I endorse this product and/or service. |

Cpt Roghie
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
99
|
Posted - 2013.02.23 15:07:00 -
[21] - Quote
I guess this is good bye. This could be fun. |

General Nusense
Not Posting With My Main
41
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Posted - 2013.02.23 18:52:00 -
[22] - Quote
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I was recruitment scammed by Goons... I got in, what a scam 
Then you were kicked, Moved to low-sec, Blew up your ceos hound and now are sitting in a NPC corp.
I think it worked out good for you. |

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
369
|
Posted - 2013.02.23 20:28:00 -
[23] - Quote
I have a killright on someone called Goonsister. Does that count? Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Mangala Solaris for CSM 8 |

Agent Trask
New Order Logistics CODE.
77
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Posted - 2013.02.23 20:33:00 -
[24] - Quote
You mean these people weren't collecting 500m ISK to NOT draft victim's into Goonswarm?
If someone does get drafted in, who do they have to pay to get out? Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.
www.minerbumping.com |

Marlon Darmazaf
e-L00T Ltd.
14
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Posted - 2013.02.24 03:57:00 -
[25] - Quote
Agent Trask wrote:If someone does get drafted in, who do they have to pay to get out?
The piper, naturally.
So... um... yeah! |

Space Wookie
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.02.24 06:42:00 -
[26] - Quote
Ya I was wronged by goons. You guys tricked me into joining. I want my 2 bil back. Space communism promised me lots of hookers with no :effort:. |

Joran Dravius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
152
|
Posted - 2013.02.24 22:12:00 -
[27] - Quote
Aryndel Vyst wrote:Greetings EVE Pilots!
My name is Senior Recruitment Director Aryndel Vyst, and I've recently been thrusted into this seat of power only to find out that the corporation name of Goonwaffe has been tainted by the lies and deceit of the membership. As a person that believes that a man's word is their bond I want to help rectify this situation for you.
Were you scammed while being recruited by a member of our establishment? Were you told something but blatantly lied to? Then this proposal is for you.
What I am proposing:
I am calling on all victims of New Eden to EVE mail me details of how they were wronged by us. Please include names, dates, and a complete history of what happened. All logs are relevant logs.
What am I going to do for you?
Not only will I reimburse your isk if the GoonSwarm Federation member is found guilty, but I will remove them from our alliance and blacklist them from the CFC. We can also have a discussion on whether or not you'd be a good fit to join our establishment.
What can't I do?
Promise you anything. I will do my best to seek justice for you but I can only do as much as the evidence reveals to me. I also ask that you be patient, I have a pretty steep backlog and will need time to evaluate all entries. If I do not respond immediately please do not be alarmed. Thank you.
I look forward to hearing from you. o7
Fly safe,
Aryndel Vyst Senior Recruitment Director and Authorization Team Officer Office: VFK-IV, Deklein
Good luck on this noble endeavor. I look forward to seeing posts by all the people for whom justice has been done soon.  |

Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
534
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Posted - 2013.02.24 22:47:00 -
[28] - Quote
Thank you for everyone that has sent me evemails so far. Investigations will be starting soon!
Keep the evemails coming. |

Lewnatik
0
|
Posted - 2013.02.25 02:35:00 -
[29] - Quote
If only I was one of such few very lucky pilots. |

Mike Adoulin
Trans-Aerospace Industries
187
|
Posted - 2013.02.25 04:40:00 -
[30] - Quote
Proving yet again that Goons are Honorable Internet Spaceship Pilots fighting to help EVE players everywhere.
*sniffs*
 |

dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep Silent Requiem
40
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Posted - 2013.02.25 05:00:00 -
[31] - Quote
I would like to air my concerns here openly and in a forum that is known for its tolerance and ability to accept people who make mistakes. I was scammed by Goonswarm, lost over 2.2 billion isk and would like to take advantage of this service, but how do I know that it is legitimate?
/joke |

Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
568
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Posted - 2013.02.25 15:08:00 -
[32] - Quote
After you contact the op... Please get in touch. I have ocean front property on a lava planet in jita that will be perfect for relaxing while you wait the outcome of your endevouts. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6965
|
Posted - 2013.02.25 15:14:00 -
[33] - Quote
For the sake of keeping it public, I will post on how I was wronged by Goonswarm
They got me into EVE ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
487
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Posted - 2013.02.25 19:10:00 -
[34] - Quote
Space Wookie wrote:Ya I was wronged by goons. You guys tricked me into joining. I want my 2 bil back. Space communism promised me lots of hookers with no :effort:.
No hookers still. Sorry, were those your hookers?
I'd send them over, but I used up all the credits they were paid.
I thought it was just a generous gift from Mittens. |

Vin King
State War Academy Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2013.02.25 22:42:00 -
[35] - Quote
Thanks, Aryndel Vyst! You already got me back all my money that was scammed from me my first week! I'm glad the Goons are taking such a hardline stance on this behavior! 315 4 CSM 8 |

dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep Silent Requiem
46
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Posted - 2013.02.26 06:32:00 -
[36] - Quote
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:After you contact the op... Please get in touch. I have ocean front property on a lava planet in jita that will be perfect for relaxing while you wait the outcome of your endevouts.
Please let me know your rates. I would like to take advantage of the offer. |

Simvastatin Montelukast
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
33
|
Posted - 2013.02.26 11:50:00 -
[37] - Quote
Goonswarm....sorry, never heard of them. They the guys that do missions all day in high sec? |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6969
|
Posted - 2013.02.26 14:00:00 -
[38] - Quote
Simvastatin Montelukast wrote:Goonswarm....sorry, never heard of them. They the guys that do missions all day in high sec?
so tryhard it hurts ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Esha Ditrix
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2013.02.26 14:36:00 -
[39] - Quote
Andski wrote:so tryhard it hurts isent that a bit ironic comming from someone who spent half their forum time in the "like thread" Its not an exploit, if the game lets you do it... |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6969
|
Posted - 2013.02.26 21:19:00 -
[40] - Quote
Esha Ditrix wrote:Andski wrote:so tryhard it hurts isent that a bit ironic comming from someone who spent half their forum time in the "like thread"
surely you can find my nonexistent posts in that thread
this is why npc alts should not be allowed to post in C&P ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Astenion
Black Dawn Rising
190
|
Posted - 2013.02.26 23:44:00 -
[41] - Quote
People can say what they want, but Goons are the funniest ******* in all of Eve. Watching their antics unfold is like living in a Groundhog Day-esque loop and watching Anchorman for the very first time, only to wake up the next day and get to see it all over again for the first time: endless, infinite hilarity. Goonswarm is like a guitar loop pedal for lulz. |

Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
44
|
Posted - 2013.02.27 03:37:00 -
[42] - Quote
I have never tried to join Goons, but if I had I am sure they would have scammed me. And I would have fallen for it and lost everything. So send me a lot of isk. Thx. Name a shrub after me.-á Something prickly and hard to eradicate. |

Arkady Vachon
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
205
|
Posted - 2013.02.27 07:05:00 -
[43] - Quote
Sounds legit.
Also sounds like a good way to harvest many tales of tears and woe for fapping and general hilarity.
Share? Nothing Personal - Just Business...
Chaos Creates Content |

ShadowNexous
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.02.27 08:41:00 -
[44] - Quote
Styx Sertan wrote:I'm sorry that I won't be able to participate in this lovely program, I had a fantastic experience once I paid my 500m. Helpful individuals jump freightered all of my stuff to VFK for me and everything. It was like having two men and a space truck. I haven't looked back.
complete bullshit. |

Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
490
|
Posted - 2013.02.27 10:54:00 -
[45] - Quote
I have to say, after being scammed out of a whole load of isk, this thread really helped me to regain my trust in the goons.
Don't be a fool (I nearly said spoon, just to rhyme but then i thought no) Trust the goon. |

Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
547
|
Posted - 2013.02.27 13:20:00 -
[46] - Quote
Other than my corp Tag nobody has any reason to believe my OP is not being as truthful as it gets. I've replied very honestly to the people that have EVE mailed me so far.
You can be as skeptical as you want. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. I'm not going to discredit you for assuming this is some scam. I'm not going to beg and plead for you to believe me because I don't have the time nor the energy. All I can do is produce results and people can take the resolutions as me keeping my word. |

Sith1s Spectre
Sky Fighters Talocan United
96
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:23:00 -
[47] - Quote
Posting in a stealth goon propaganda thread CCP please consider hats as a clothing option for our spaceship barbies.-á
Artist impression of what this could potentially be http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t66/ROBC5Z06/sithsig_zps86971c83.jpg |

Taihbea
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
126
|
Posted - 2013.02.27 13:27:00 -
[48] - Quote
Gewns looking for friends... No wonder... Half of EVE is coming to get you... very soon. |

Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
547
|
Posted - 2013.02.27 13:29:00 -
[49] - Quote
Taihbea wrote:Gewns looking for friends... No wonder... Half of EVE is coming to get you... very soon.
I....too...can...misuse...ellipses.... |

flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
869
|
Posted - 2013.02.27 13:38:00 -
[50] - Quote
Aryndel Vyst wrote: I am calling on all victims of New Eden to EVE mail me details of how they were wronged by us. Please include names, dates, and a complete history of what happened. All logs are relevant logs.
I read this thread thinking it was fun and it wasn't , as such i have been robbed 5 minutes of my life by aryndel vyst.This happened on thursday 28th of february in the year 2013.
Keeping my fingers crossed i will get my 5 minutes of life reimbursed.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
869
|
Posted - 2013.02.27 13:40:00 -
[51] - Quote
Astenion wrote:People can say what they want, but Goons are the funniest ******* in all of Eve. .
I completely agree , that the eve standards are DAMN low.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
|

Camper101
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
27
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Posted - 2013.02.28 07:21:00 -
[52] - Quote
+1 seems legit. Faith in the righteousness of Goons restored
@OP: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=201644&find=unread
Confirming, that I will forward the full ISK-compensation to the original owner as soon as you send it to me. "For your termination of ***** *** we have paid you 0,39 ISK from their bounty pool." - uhm... Thanks CONCORD... |

Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
550
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Posted - 2013.02.28 13:24:00 -
[53] - Quote
There is a misconception that I am somehow going to provide justice for all scams. I am the auth director. My purview is the gates of Goonwaffe not our member corps, not any other scams than those claiming to be false GoonWaffe auth team members. I am not The Mittani, I don't have all-seeing authority over everything. |

VNX
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
0
|
Posted - 2013.02.28 16:42:00 -
[54] - Quote
the effort of even thinking of writing OP, obviously too much time  |

Ristlin Wakefield
Wanderers of the Eternal Darkness Eternal Pretorian Alliance
299
|
Posted - 2013.02.28 17:53:00 -
[55] - Quote
This horrible thread belongs in "crap discussions." I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license. |

Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
268
|
Posted - 2013.03.04 13:01:00 -
[56] - Quote
Aryndel Vyst wrote:Greetings EVE Pilots!
My name is Senior Recruitment Director Aryndel Vyst, and I've recently been thrusted into this seat of power only to find out that the corporation name of Goonwaffe has been tainted by the lies and deceit of the membership. As a person that believes that a man's word is their bond I want to help rectify this situation for you.
Were you scammed while being recruited by a member of our establishment? Were you told something but blatantly lied to? Then this proposal is for you.
What I am proposing:
I am calling on all victims of New Eden to EVE mail me details of how they were wronged by us. Please include names, dates, and a complete history of what happened. All logs are relevant logs.
What am I going to do for you?
Not only will I reimburse your isk if the GoonSwarm Federation member is found guilty, but I will remove them from our alliance and blacklist them from the CFC. We can also have a discussion on whether or not you'd be a good fit to join our establishment.
What can't I do?
Promise you anything. I will do my best to seek justice for you but I can only do as much as the evidence reveals to me. I also ask that you be patient, I have a pretty steep backlog and will need time to evaluate all entries. If I do not respond immediately please do not be alarmed. Thank you.
I look forward to hearing from you. o7
Fly safe,
Aryndel Vyst Senior Recruitment Director and Authorization Team Officer Office: VFK-IV, Deklein
I was scammed out of exactly:
1 Erebus 1 Nyx 111 BPO's 500 M isk
And the promise of having my own space midget on hand to quote scene's from the Lord Of The Rings Extended Trilogy Box Set.
Please have all said items contracted to me (including the ginger space midget). Also as a means to make amends I am offering you a one time offer to join the illustrious Fusion Alliance for a one time recruiting fee of 501 million isk. The extra mil is of course to pay for processing fee, CSPA charges, and my Monocle's battery.
Also you can tell Mittens I'm down to Yiff anytime. I mean Mittens IS a furry name right?.....Right?
|

Kinis Deren
EVE University Ivy League
155
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Posted - 2013.03.04 23:25:00 -
[57] - Quote
Ahhh, is this for the Alliance panel? Will each story told be accompanied by quaffing 10 Jagerbombs, followed by a faux pas as a finale, only to be followed by a grovelling apology the next day?
/me pinches CCP Foxfour's popcorn
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Xearal
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
497
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Posted - 2013.03.05 10:26:00 -
[58] - Quote
I was scammed by your evil alliance members!
Here I am, taking my shiny cane down to lowsec, and 'pop' I join an incursion channel. Where a goon asked me if I wanted to join their fleet to do some incursion sites, as they had a pretty nice fleet already, I figured suuure, I've never been ganked by goons, my ship is cheap and fully insured.. I want to be ganked.. So I join up, and warp to them. At the same time, they had invited someone else in a very shiny fit sleipnir to their fleet. And to my big surprise and sadness.. they didn't lock me up and gank me.. instead, they all locked up the shiny sleipnir and gank it... leaving me to warp off heartbroken.
As such, I demand to beimbursed:
1 shiny new gank loving heart. 10M isk I was promised for doing an incursion site with them.
Edit; oh and also:
20M isk for the wasted insurance on that cane. |

Jensaro Koraka
Serenity Prime Kraken.
23
|
Posted - 2013.03.05 11:59:00 -
[59] - Quote
Allowed? I'm pretty sure it used to be mandatory. "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -H.L. Mencken |

Lodochkin
DeLait Kelts Alliance
5
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Posted - 2013.03.06 18:18:00 -
[60] - Quote
take a look story about how Goonswarm scam with sup cap(2 month ago)
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=201644
here is link with all deitals |

Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
559
|
Posted - 2013.03.07 02:47:00 -
[61] - Quote
This is only for recruitment scams not a platform for your personal bullshit. |

MEZZA Creire-Geng
RoughNeckz Beyond The Dark
1
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Posted - 2013.03.07 09:33:00 -
[62] - Quote
personal bullshit is what im about fella
Happy Faces  |

Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
271
|
Posted - 2013.03.11 05:19:00 -
[63] - Quote
Aryndel Vyst wrote:This is only for recruitment scams not a platform for your personal bullshit.
But he promised he'd call and instead only left me with a bun in the oven..... |

Hannah Flex
laissez-faire economics
281
|
Posted - 2013.03.11 18:25:00 -
[64] - Quote
Tara Read wrote:Aryndel Vyst wrote:This is only for recruitment scams not a platform for your personal bullshit. But he promised he'd call and instead only left me with a bun in the oven.....
500m cant buy you love |

Jonasan Mikio
Hateful Munitions
3
|
Posted - 2013.03.11 18:41:00 -
[65] - Quote
I mean, is this a joke?
Are you just trying to get a total amount that you guys have scammed for? Goons has been scamming people sense goons has been goons.... you guys are gonna a metric **** ton of isk.. I remember sitting in fake recruit channels and watching them scam like 2 people out of carriers and their isk....
This just seems to good to be true... |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1099
|
Posted - 2013.03.12 12:27:00 -
[66] - Quote
Aryndel Vyst wrote:I am calling on all victims of New Eden to EVE mail me details of how they were wronged by us. Please include names, dates, and a complete history of what happened. All logs are relevant logs.
What am I going to do for you?
Post the transcripts of the sadistic torment of others on your Mittani website as "erectile dysfunction relief" of course. EvE is like prison.-á It's a place when bad people go to learn how to become even worse people. |

Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
522
|
Posted - 2013.03.12 14:19:00 -
[67] - Quote
AWWWW
I came here thinking the title said "Get Vindicator Here"
I was thinking I'd really like another Vindicator! Shame. |

Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
196
|
Posted - 2013.03.12 15:15:00 -
[68] - Quote
Goons scammed me out of a CSM vote,
I voted Mittens for CSM but then he lost touch with reality and what is sensible and reasonable behaviour in real life. He got confused where EVE online ended and the real world began amongst the blur of Fan Fest. He ranted about bullying some poor multi box miner to the point of potential suicide causing CCP to have a sense of humour failure and remove him from CSM thus invalidating my vote. For Goons to reimburse and make amends for my loss they'll have to assign a personal carer to Mittens or any other goon CSM candidate during the next CSM elections so that he does not get banned again.
Did I win the thread?
Your votes don't count, Goon Swarm bring sweet sweet smiles amongst all the tears, truly Gods Work. Kugutsumen - My signature insures that my post is always read by an ISD or Dev, does yours? |

Jensaro Koraka
Serenity Prime Kraken.
59
|
Posted - 2013.03.13 14:45:00 -
[69] - Quote
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Goons scammed me out of a CSM vote,
I voted Mittens for CSM but then he lost touch with reality and what is sensible and reasonable behaviour in real life. He got confused where EVE online ended and the real world began amongst the blur of Fan Fest. What you mean to say is that he said something that thousands of other players say every day and don't get in trouble for, but because people don't like him they used it as an excuse to fake outrage and metagame him out of the CSM. "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -H.L. Mencken |

Steve Spooner
Divine Spirit DSM Strategic Operations Brigade
5
|
Posted - 2013.03.13 16:54:00 -
[70] - Quote
Wait. people ACTUALLY trusted a goon? What? |

Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
330
|
Posted - 2013.04.17 20:05:00 -
[71] - Quote
The worst thing goons did to me was accept me and make me push reject on all those terrible applications. |

xPredat0rz
Grey Templars Fidelas Constans
22
|
Posted - 2013.04.18 07:45:00 -
[72] - Quote
I wasnt Rich enough for the Goon Club. |

Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
299
|
Posted - 2013.04.18 08:24:00 -
[73] - Quote
xPredat0rz wrote:I wasnt Rich enough for the Goon Club. Think there are support groups for that if you want to talk about it.  You either love us or we hate you. |

Thorleifer
Yeti Cave
2
|
Posted - 2013.04.18 18:42:00 -
[74] - Quote
Space Wookie wrote:Ya I was wronged by goons. You guys tricked me into joining. I want my 2 bil back. Space communism promised me lots of hookers with no :effort:.
No hookers still.
I know I heard they promised 40 virgins for suicide ganking someone, then they guy ended up getting 40 dudes that were virgins, I guess maybe he didn't read the fine print  |

nihilumm
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
|
Posted - 2013.04.18 20:45:00 -
[75] - Quote
Jonasan Mikio wrote:I mean, is this a joke?
Are you just trying to get a total amount that you guys have scammed for? Goons has been scamming people sense goons has been goons.... you guys are gonna a metric **** ton of isk.. I remember sitting in fake recruit channels and watching them scam like 2 people out of carriers and their isk....
This just seems to good to be true... We're trying to turn over a new leaf here, give us a chance. |

rswfire
Fire Productions Firesworn Nation
27
|
Posted - 2013.04.18 23:54:00 -
[76] - Quote
nihilumm wrote:We're trying to turn over a new leaf here, give us a chance.
Would this be an example of the new leaf you're turning over? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2803081#post2803081
Also, are you planning on attacking people in Jita this weekend? Will you be using your whitelist when you do so?
/sarcasm We are the other side of Eve...the human side. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=182994 http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/ |

Reelism
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.04.19 00:06:00 -
[77] - Quote
Its about time goonwaffe took some responsibility. +1 for the restoration of the entire gsf. I pledge to keep this from happening in my corp as well. |

Dav Varan
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
21
|
Posted - 2013.04.23 15:24:00 -
[78] - Quote
Zmog did goons just invent ReScamming.
|

HoleySheet1
Concentrated Evil The Marmite Collective
184
|
Posted - 2013.04.23 15:35:00 -
[79] - Quote
Goon recruiting scam victims, i have some great news. The Marmite Collective has taken 105 bill and counting from them (check war report) so far. Burn jita was an attempt to make irrelevance relevant. It didnt work. We burn jita, amarr, rens , dodixie and all in-between 24/7/365. Beat that goofsters.  |

Seraphin Foad
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
33
|
Posted - 2013.04.23 15:52:00 -
[80] - Quote
HoleySheet1 wrote:Goon recruiting scam victims, i have some great news. The Marmite Collective has taken 105 bill and counting from them (check war report) so far. Burn jita was an attempt to make irrelevance relevant. It didnt work. We burn jita, amarr, rens , dodixie and all in-between 24/7/365. Beat that goofsters. 
Would of helped if you undocked. |

HoleySheet1
Concentrated Evil The Marmite Collective
189
|
Posted - 2013.04.23 16:03:00 -
[81] - Quote
Dont make me start linking gewf kills in here. 105 bill!!!! Are you serious??!You guys have lost 105bill to a team of pwn high sec dwellers. Bow head in shame as a group, if you would. I do jita sometimes.
I know im gonna get a rebuttal about goons earning 100bill a minute. But still, its a lot of isk and embarrassing that you cant pull together to defend urselves except pathetic blobs off jita. Holeysheet golfclaps.  |

Black Death Jasmine
Leessang. Rebel Alliance of New Eden
1
|
Posted - 2013.04.28 14:05:00 -
[82] - Quote
I too pride myself on laying claim to destroying countless AFK freighters and jump freighters, and catching people blissfully unaware of their surroundings.
The goons might be terrible, but the Marmite Collective is just the worst. "Guys, guys, we Burned Jita after the Goons looted it, isn't that awesome.. guys? Guys! LISTEN TO USSSSSS"
Talk about irrelevant.
More related to the post, I commend Aryndel Vyst on his actions, via private convo, not only was I able to get my 500m back, and my carrier, but the person responsible has since been bio-massed.
If you have any issues, don't be afraid to contact Aryndel, the Goons really have turned over a new leaf on this one. I hear they're doing something similar with DUST514 and going after all the people team killing from their corp. LeeSsang. Corporation CEO, Herder of Cats.
Forever T-Ara.
|

statanspawn
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.08 09:48:00 -
[83] - Quote
in-game mail sent and new Jack Daniel's opened. |

Scion Lex
Anoikis Vergence
33
|
Posted - 2013.05.08 19:57:00 -
[84] - Quote
Aryndel Vyst wrote:This is only for recruitment scams not a platform for your personal bullshit.
Getting testy eh?
My question is why do you think anyone actually cares? More relavent; why do you care? I mean I get it.....making forum threads that get attention is...cute? idk. Are you guys trying to compile your lulz in a scrap book or something? Has your pool of victims dried up? You think the whole cluster might be on to you and now not a single decent player (that isn't already tainted with your stench) is willing to join you? Those that do probably dont realize its a one way trip. I could it be that you might actually have a public relations issue? Regardless, you and your entire snot-nosed crew can die in a fire. I never lost anything to you, not that I can think of. I just find you embarrassingly low-class and generally substandard. From the top down you are garbage. Are you good at eve? Yes...everyone knows that. (I have a fresh batch of cookies in the oven) Its how you go about it. Your really just a bunch of pricks that have done a great job of making eve unappealing to outsiders.
Those that talk about coming and 'getting you' are diluted. No one needs to go and get goons. They are 'getting themselves'. They are their own cancer. They will implode soon enough. |

Illest Insurrectionist
The Scope Gallente Federation
92
|
Posted - 2013.05.08 21:00:00 -
[85] - Quote
Andski paid me to blow up exhumers. Then i felt i had to blow up more and then he sent me more isk. It was a viscous cycle of death and payment. I thought i'd never escape. So many catalysts lost  |

beancounter Jaynara
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.08 21:21:00 -
[86] - Quote
Aryndel Vyst wrote:Greetings EVE Pilots!
My name is Senior Recruitment Director Aryndel Vyst, and I've recently been thrusted into this seat of power only to find out that the corporation name of Goonwaffe has been tainted by the lies and deceit of the membership. As a person that believes that a man's word is their bond I want to help rectify this situation for you.
Were you scammed while being recruited by a member of our establishment? Were you told something but blatantly lied to? Then this proposal is for you.
What I am proposing:
I am calling on all victims of New Eden to EVE mail me details of how they were wronged by us. Please include names, dates, and a complete history of what happened. All logs are relevant logs.
What am I going to do for you?
Not only will I reimburse your isk if the GoonSwarm Federation member is found guilty, but I will remove them from our alliance and blacklist them from the CFC. We can also have a discussion on whether or not you'd be a good fit to join our establishment.
What can't I do?
Promise you anything. I will do my best to seek justice for you but I can only do as much as the evidence reveals to me. I also ask that you be patient, I have a pretty steep backlog and will need time to evaluate all entries. If I do not respond immediately please do not be alarmed. Thank you.
I look forward to hearing from you. o7
Fly safe,
Aryndel Vyst Senior Recruitment Director and Authorization Team Officer Office: VFK-IV, Deklein
I can personally attest to the honor and effectiveness of Aryndel Vyst. I recently contacted him regarding someone who extracted billions from me. I had almost lost it all, but luckily made my isk back by sending a billion to quite possibly the only honest isk doubler in Eve (Erotica 1)
The corrupt recruiter has been ousted from his position and corp. After following Aryndel Vyst's instructions to a "T" I managed to get into the alliance of my dreams.
All I can say is trust this man and listen very carefully. If you do what he asks, assuming you are a good fit, you too can join the ranks. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2836
|
Posted - 2013.05.09 00:05:00 -
[87] - Quote
Scion Lex wrote:Aryndel Vyst wrote:This is only for recruitment scams not a platform for your personal bullshit. Getting testy eh? My question is why do you think anyone actually cares? More relavent; why do you care? I mean I get it.....making forum threads that get attention is...cute? idk. Are you guys trying to compile your lulz in a scrap book or something? Has your pool of victims dried up? You think the whole cluster might be on to you and now not a single decent player (that isn't already tainted with your stench) is willing to join you? Those that do probably dont realize its a one way trip. Could it be that you might actually have a public relations issue? Regardless, you and your entire snot-nosed crew can die in a fire. I never lost anything to you, not that I can think of. I just find you embarrassingly low-class and generally substandard. From the top down you are garbage. Are you good at eve? Yes...everyone knows that. (I have a fresh batch of cookies in the oven) Its how you go about it. Your really just a bunch of pricks that have done a great job of making eve unappealing to outsiders. Geez, even the devs clown you guys...c'mon. Those that talk about coming and 'getting you' are diluted. No one needs to go and get goons. They are 'getting themselves'. They are their own cancer. They will implode soon enough.
If you don't care, why did you proceed to post 11 lines of garbage? The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |

Scion Lex
Anoikis Vergence
33
|
Posted - 2013.05.09 01:11:00 -
[88] - Quote
...you need to train troll to lvl 5. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2839
|
Posted - 2013.05.09 02:57:00 -
[89] - Quote
Scion Lex wrote: I can't answer that so I'm going to try & change the subject...you need to train troll to lvl 5.
The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |

Sajuk'ar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
28
|
Posted - 2013.05.09 12:47:00 -
[90] - Quote
"Again I tell you, it is easier for a nooby to go through the EC-P8R than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of Goons." Gospel of McCabe. 19:24 |

Lizzy Audeles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.11 09:51:00 -
[91] - Quote
This change in direction is why I joined the GoonWaffe. Thank you so much Aryndel. Well worth my 500m Isk. |

Hendrick Tallardar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
|
Posted - 2013.05.16 22:25:00 -
[92] - Quote
As a new member to GoonWaffe, and Goonswarm, I can assure you that the deposit does work. |

Immortal Chrono Pimpin
Atolla Nimissary Corps
1
|
Posted - 2013.05.17 21:34:00 -
[93] - Quote
I smell sweet tear collection here. |

Lord Vandurock
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 17:31:00 -
[94] - Quote
Hello,
I recently have fallen victim to a GSF recrutiment scam. I learned this after talking with an individual by the name of Neuntausend.
I advertised myself in the recruitment channel and was contacted by Bella Govlia. He chatted with me awhile and answered any questions that I had pertaining to the corp. After this he provided me a sponsership code. The application code was 05ef220f19eea3bb. It worked on the Goonfleet.net. I was asked to provide a security deposit of 300m, API key, and contract my items to Bella Govlia so that she could get my items sent to a freighter to be transported to 0.0. I traveled to Jita, because this is where Bella advised me to go, and contracted my items to him. All of this took place on Friday 17 May 2013. After sometime I checked on Goonfleet.net and noticed that my application was accepted and proceeded to place an in-game application. This was rejected. After nurmerous attempts at reaching Bella, I finnaly was able to and he stated that he needed to move into Escalated status. I waited for sometime and tried to contact Bella but he was not returning my messages.
I then proceeded to contact another GSF individual by the name of Voyager Arran. I asked him if he could help me with the status of my applicaiton and provided him with my app code 05ef220f19eea3bb. He then informed me shortly thereafter that my application was on hold because it was flagged as a pontential spy. I was confused, as I have only been in 4 different corps in my lifetime, to be accused of this. He said that a higher official said that I could still join if I provided an addtional 400m. (I did not have the cash for this so I had to purchase PLEX in order to provide this payment.) I had thought at first that he had ment that my deposit would increase by 100m. I sent him this and he flammed me saying that it was 400m. I then sent the 300m and he informed me that the application should be completed shortly and told me to go ahead and submit yet another in-game applicaiton. It was rejected shortly thereafter. All of this occured on Saturday 18 May 2013. I contacted Voyager Arran on Sunday and he informed me that it was because the "higher official" was aggrivated by the chat logs and want me to pay an additonal 100m. I proceeded to with the promse that Voyager Arran would help me get the money back once I arrived into 0.0.
Confused by this I began searching for another representative to talk to. I am worried about my items and am sitting in Jita with no cash and a pod. I am also begining to become skeptical of what is happening with my application. i spend all day 19 may 2013 Sunday trying to get in touch with Bella. I never am able to reach him and figure that maybe he is just away. I am able to get in touch with Mallak Azaria. He is friendly and informs me that both Bella Govlia and Voyager Arran messed up on the security deposit. He informs me that because of upcoming wars the security deposit is doubled. My current security deposit was 800m and this would sky rocket it to 1.6b. Since I was eager to join GSF I purchased 2 plex to cover the 800m cost. Mallak informed me that he would cover 200m of it so I would only have to provide 600m. My current security deposit is 1.4b. After completing this Mallak assured me that everything will be taken care of and that I can submit my in-game application within the next 10 min. I proceed to do so, but realize that my Goonfleet.net application is still stating that my application is in an escalted status. Mallak has logged off and I am under the assumption that the application will rejected again. It was rejected sometime after.
On 19 May 2013, Sunday night, I contact a GSF player who puts me in touch with Menju. I am relieved at first because he seems to know what he is doing. He explains that Mallak did not send the 600m that I sent him to the corp wallet yet. He says that I can either wait for him to send the funds or pay the 600m and the application can go through then. I contemplate and come to the decision that I would rather just pay the funds and get reimbursed by Mallak. I only had 465m at this point and Menju said that 450m was fine and was approved by other officials. After sending him the money, I awaited for my now 4th application to accepted, but to my avail it was rejected when i checked on 20 May 2013 Monday.. My application on the Goonfleet.net site still stated that my application was in escalation.
I am able to find through online searching the GS_HELP channel in which I browse through individuals until I find yet another recruier. This individual was named Fax Mora. He proceeded to tell me that my items were still in shipment and that was the cause of my applicaiton being in escalation. I somewhat understand, until he presumes to tell me that I have been chosen to be a canidate for a supercap fund. He explains it in terms of investment, but says that I have to send the money to a character that has existed for 2 days. I dont buy it and quickly decide to find a random person in GS_HELP and just ask if they can get me in touch with a recruiter. The character that I contacted was Cascoine, who put me in touch with Neuntausend.
I explained Neuntausend my situation and he quickly informed me that the individuals Bella Govlia and Menju were not even involved in the recruitment process. I did not even explain the other two individuals to him. He stated that if I provided them any money that it was a scam. I pretty much about broke my computer when I found this out. He apologized for the entire event and sent me to these forums to post my experiance. He said that it baffled him that even the application code was valid enough to state that it was escalted. All of the inviduals that I spoke with had recuritment information inside of their bio as well which made it more believable. I am now out of $55.00 USD and 1.85b as well as all of my items.
|

Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
274
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 17:56:00 -
[95] - Quote
Lord Vandurock wrote:I recently have fallen victim to a GSF recrutiment scam. I learned this after talking with an individual by the name of Neuntausend.
Are you sure it was Neuntausend who scammed you? Finding out who was responsible is very important for us. |

Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
470
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 18:04:00 -
[96] - Quote
Lord Vandurock wrote:Hello,
I recently have fallen victim to a GSF recrutiment scam. I learned this after talking with an individual by the name of Neuntausend.
I advertised myself in the recruitment channel and was contacted by Bella Govlia. He chatted with me awhile and answered any questions that I had pertaining to the corp. After this he provided me a sponsership code. The application code was 05ef220f19eea3bb. It worked on the Goonfleet.net. I was asked to provide a security deposit of 300m, API key, and contract my items to Bella Govlia so that she could get my items sent to a freighter to be transported to 0.0. I traveled to Jita, because this is where Bella advised me to go, and contracted my items to him. All of this took place on Friday 17 May 2013. After sometime I checked on Goonfleet.net and noticed that my application was accepted and proceeded to place an in-game application. This was rejected. After nurmerous attempts at reaching Bella, I finnaly was able to and he stated that he needed to move into Escalated status. I waited for sometime and tried to contact Bella but he was not returning my messages.
I then proceeded to contact another GSF individual by the name of Voyager Arran. I asked him if he could help me with the status of my applicaiton and provided him with my app code 05ef220f19eea3bb. He then informed me shortly thereafter that my application was on hold because it was flagged as a pontential spy. I was confused, as I have only been in 4 different corps in my lifetime, to be accused of this. He said that a higher official said that I could still join if I provided an addtional 400m. (I did not have the cash for this so I had to purchase PLEX in order to provide this payment.) I had thought at first that he had ment that my deposit would increase by 100m. I sent him this and he flammed me saying that it was 400m. I then sent the 300m and he informed me that the application should be completed shortly and told me to go ahead and submit yet another in-game applicaiton. It was rejected shortly thereafter. All of this occured on Saturday 18 May 2013. I contacted Voyager Arran on Sunday and he informed me that it was because the "higher official" was aggrivated by the chat logs and want me to pay an additonal 100m. I proceeded to with the promse that Voyager Arran would help me get the money back once I arrived into 0.0.
Confused by this I began searching for another representative to talk to. I am worried about my items and am sitting in Jita with no cash and a pod. I am also begining to become skeptical of what is happening with my application. i spend all day 19 may 2013 Sunday trying to get in touch with Bella. I never am able to reach him and figure that maybe he is just away. I am able to get in touch with Mallak Azaria. He is friendly and informs me that both Bella Govlia and Voyager Arran messed up on the security deposit. He informs me that because of upcoming wars the security deposit is doubled. My current security deposit was 800m and this would sky rocket it to 1.6b. Since I was eager to join GSF I purchased 2 plex to cover the 800m cost. Mallak informed me that he would cover 200m of it so I would only have to provide 600m. My current security deposit is 1.4b. After completing this Mallak assured me that everything will be taken care of and that I can submit my in-game application within the next 10 min. I proceed to do so, but realize that my Goonfleet.net application is still stating that my application is in an escalted status. Mallak has logged off and I am under the assumption that the application will rejected again. It was rejected sometime after.
On 19 May 2013, Sunday night, I contact a GSF player who puts me in touch with Menju. I am relieved at first because he seems to know what he is doing. He explains that Mallak did not send the 600m that I sent him to the corp wallet yet. He says that I can either wait for him to send the funds or pay the 600m and the application can go through then. I contemplate and come to the decision that I would rather just pay the funds and get reimbursed by Mallak. I only had 465m at this point and Menju said that 450m was fine and was approved by other officials. After sending him the money, I awaited for my now 4th application to accepted, but to my avail it was rejected when i checked on 20 May 2013 Monday.. My application on the Goonfleet.net site still stated that my application was in escalation.
I am able to find through online searching the GS_HELP channel in which I browse through individuals until I find yet another recruier. This individual was named Fax Mora. He proceeded to tell me that my items were still in shipment and that was the cause of my applicaiton being in escalation. I somewhat understand, until he presumes to tell me that I have been chosen to be a canidate for a supercap fund. He explains it in terms of investment, but says that I have to send the money to a character that has existed for 2 days. I dont buy it and quickly decide to find a random person in GS_HELP and just ask if they can get me in touch with a recruiter. The character that I contacted was Cascoine, who put me in touch with Neuntausend.
I explained Neuntausend my situation and he quickly informed me that the individuals Bella Govlia and Menju were not even involved in the recruitment process. I did not even explain the other two individuals to him. He stated that if I provided them any money that it was a scam. I pretty much about broke my computer when I found this out. He apologized for the entire event and sent me to these forums to post my experiance. He said that it baffled him that even the application code was valid enough to state that it was escalted. All of the inviduals that I spoke with had recuritment information inside of their bio as well which made it more believable. I am now out of $55.00 USD and 1.85b as well as all of my items.
|

Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
470
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 18:04:00 -
[97] - Quote
I hope this situation can be resolved as soon as possible. |

Lord Vandurock
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 18:13:00 -
[98] - Quote
Kismeteer wrote:Lord Vandurock wrote:I recently have fallen victim to a GSF recrutiment scam. I learned this after talking with an individual by the name of Neuntausend. Are you sure it was Neuntausend who scammed you? Finding out who was responsible is very important for us.
No he was the one that helped me figure out the entire scam. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10622
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 18:13:00 -
[99] - Quote
It's a shame some people are disreputable in space. Why can't we all be friends? Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10622
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 18:14:00 -
[100] - Quote
Lord Vandurock wrote:Kismeteer wrote:Lord Vandurock wrote:I recently have fallen victim to a GSF recrutiment scam. I learned this after talking with an individual by the name of Neuntausend. Are you sure it was Neuntausend who scammed you? Finding out who was responsible is very important for us. No he was the one that helped me figure out the entire scam. Be sure to pass along any other details that you remember. Aryndel is a very busy bee, and we don't want anything to fall through the cracks on this case. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |

Lord Vandurock
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 18:17:00 -
[101] - Quote
Quote:Be sure to pass along any other details that you remember. Aryndel is a very busy bee, and we don't want anything to fall through the cracks on this case.
I will be sure to do that. I have tried to put as much information in the post as possible. |

Darius JOHNSON
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 18:17:00 -
[102] - Quote
As the former CEO of Goonswarm and outstanding member of the Eve Online Community I can assure you that there must be some misunderstanding. The Goonswarm Federation alliance does not condone scamming and find such activities to be deplorable. |

Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
472
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 18:24:00 -
[103] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Lord Vandurock wrote:Kismeteer wrote:Lord Vandurock wrote:I recently have fallen victim to a GSF recrutiment scam. I learned this after talking with an individual by the name of Neuntausend. Are you sure it was Neuntausend who scammed you? Finding out who was responsible is very important for us. No he was the one that helped me figure out the entire scam. Be sure to pass along any other details that you remember. Aryndel is a very busy bee, and we don't want anything to fall through the cracks on this case.
Oh, hey I thought you died of alcohol poisoning after that time you got drunk and screamed about the united federation of space planets or whatever. |

Lord Vandurock
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 18:26:00 -
[104] - Quote
Sir Marksalot wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Lord Vandurock wrote:Kismeteer wrote:Lord Vandurock wrote:I recently have fallen victim to a GSF recrutiment scam. I learned this after talking with an individual by the name of Neuntausend. Are you sure it was Neuntausend who scammed you? Finding out who was responsible is very important for us. No he was the one that helped me figure out the entire scam. Be sure to pass along any other details that you remember. Aryndel is a very busy bee, and we don't want anything to fall through the cracks on this case. Oh, hey I thought you died of alcohol poisoning after that time you got drunk and screamed about the united federation of space planets or whatever.
Excuse me? |

Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
472
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 18:29:00 -
[105] - Quote
Lord Vandurock wrote:Sir Marksalot wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Lord Vandurock wrote:Kismeteer wrote:
Are you sure it was Neuntausend who scammed you? Finding out who was responsible is very important for us.
No he was the one that helped me figure out the entire scam. Be sure to pass along any other details that you remember. Aryndel is a very busy bee, and we don't want anything to fall through the cracks on this case. Oh, hey I thought you died of alcohol poisoning after that time you got drunk and screamed about the united federation of space planets or whatever. Excuse me?
It was easier for me to find this for you than I thought it would be. https://soundcloud.com/luigi30/right-honorable-goonswarm |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10622
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 18:35:00 -
[106] - Quote
Lord Vandurock wrote: Excuse me?
He was talking at me. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |

Lord Vandurock
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 18:35:00 -
[107] - Quote
Ahh ok I see |

Cpt Roghie
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
104
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 19:52:00 -
[108] - Quote
Lord Vandurock wrote:Hello,
I recently have fallen victim to a GSF recrutiment scam. I learned this after talking with an individual by the name of Neuntausend.
I advertised myself in the recruitment channel and was contacted by Bella Govlia. He chatted with me awhile and answered any questions that I had pertaining to the corp. After this he provided me a sponsership code. The application code was 05ef220f19eea3bb. It worked on the Goonfleet.net. I was asked to provide a security deposit of 300m, API key, and contract my items to Bella Govlia so that she could get my items sent to a freighter to be transported to 0.0. I traveled to Jita, because this is where Bella advised me to go, and contracted my items to him. All of this took place on Friday 17 May 2013. After sometime I checked on Goonfleet.net and noticed that my application was accepted and proceeded to place an in-game application. This was rejected. After nurmerous attempts at reaching Bella, I finnaly was able to and he stated that he needed to move into Escalated status. I waited for sometime and tried to contact Bella but he was not returning my messages.
I then proceeded to contact another GSF individual by the name of Voyager Arran. I asked him if he could help me with the status of my applicaiton and provided him with my app code 05ef220f19eea3bb. He then informed me shortly thereafter that my application was on hold because it was flagged as a pontential spy. I was confused, as I have only been in 4 different corps in my lifetime, to be accused of this. He said that a higher official said that I could still join if I provided an addtional 400m. (I did not have the cash for this so I had to purchase PLEX in order to provide this payment.) I had thought at first that he had ment that my deposit would increase by 100m. I sent him this and he flammed me saying that it was 400m. I then sent the 300m and he informed me that the application should be completed shortly and told me to go ahead and submit yet another in-game applicaiton. It was rejected shortly thereafter. All of this occured on Saturday 18 May 2013. I contacted Voyager Arran on Sunday and he informed me that it was because the "higher official" was aggrivated by the chat logs and want me to pay an additonal 100m. I proceeded to with the promse that Voyager Arran would help me get the money back once I arrived into 0.0.
Confused by this I began searching for another representative to talk to. I am worried about my items and am sitting in Jita with no cash and a pod. I am also begining to become skeptical of what is happening with my application. i spend all day 19 may 2013 Sunday trying to get in touch with Bella. I never am able to reach him and figure that maybe he is just away. I am able to get in touch with Mallak Azaria. He is friendly and informs me that both Bella Govlia and Voyager Arran messed up on the security deposit. He informs me that because of upcoming wars the security deposit is doubled. My current security deposit was 800m and this would sky rocket it to 1.6b. Since I was eager to join GSF I purchased 2 plex to cover the 800m cost. Mallak informed me that he would cover 200m of it so I would only have to provide 600m. My current security deposit is 1.4b. After completing this Mallak assured me that everything will be taken care of and that I can submit my in-game application within the next 10 min. I proceed to do so, but realize that my Goonfleet.net application is still stating that my application is in an escalted status. Mallak has logged off and I am under the assumption that the application will rejected again. It was rejected sometime after.
On 19 May 2013, Sunday night, I contact a GSF player who puts me in touch with Menju. I am relieved at first because he seems to know what he is doing. He explains that Mallak did not send the 600m that I sent him to the corp wallet yet. He says that I can either wait for him to send the funds or pay the 600m and the application can go through then. I contemplate and come to the decision that I would rather just pay the funds and get reimbursed by Mallak. I only had 465m at this point and Menju said that 450m was fine and was approved by other officials. After sending him the money, I awaited for my now 4th application to accepted, but to my avail it was rejected when i checked on 20 May 2013 Monday.. My application on the Goonfleet.net site still stated that my application was in escalation.
I am able to find through online searching the GS_HELP channel in which I browse through individuals until I find yet another recruier. This individual was named Fax Mora. He proceeded to tell me that my items were still in shipment and that was the cause of my applicaiton being in escalation. I somewhat understand, until he presumes to tell me that I have been chosen to be a canidate for a supercap fund. He explains it in terms of investment, but says that I have to send the money to a character that has existed for 2 days. I dont buy it and quickly decide to find a random person in GS_HELP and just ask if they can get me in touch with a recruiter. The character that I contacted was Cascoine, who put me in touch with Neuntausend.
I explained Neuntausend my situation and he quickly informed me that the individuals Bella Govlia and Menju were not even involved in the recruitment process. I did not even explain the other two individuals to him. He stated that if I provided them any money that it was a scam. I pretty much about broke my computer when I found this out. He apologized for the entire event and sent me to these forums to post my experiance. He said that it baffled him that even the application code was valid enough to state that it was escalted. All of the inviduals that I spoke with had recuritment information inside of their bio as well which made it more believable. I am now out of $55.00 USD and 1.85b as well as all of my items.
Thanks for the chuckle. This could be fun. |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1859
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 20:22:00 -
[109] - Quote
At a cursory glance, it looks like you were trying to force an application by running around and contacting people who weren't even related to the pending application and getting them to sign off on it. This is usually very, very suspicious behaviour.
Hopefully someone has the complete picture and can unpick this, but it looks very much like you're just trying to cover your ass for your own misconduct. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

Lord Vandurock
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
4
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 20:46:00 -
[110] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:At a cursory glance, it looks like you were trying to force an application by running around and contacting people who weren't even related to the pending application and getting them to sign off on it. This is usually very, very suspicious behaviour.
Hopefully someone has the complete picture and can unpick this, but it looks very much like you're just trying to cover your ass for your own misconduct.
I was contacted by a Goon representaive from the get go... They had my items contracted and I was left in a pod unable to do anything. Of course I am going to try and find a rep. that can help me. This was a scam that there wasnt anyway to know really that it was one. I just wanted to make sure that everything was proceeding with the application so I could resume gameplay. Any player in my situation would have been trying to do the same thing, not just sit around and wait. I do not understand what exactly I would be covering considering these events. A rep. is there to contact about any recruiting needs, correct? |

Solderan
Intergalactic Combined Technologies
2
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 20:49:00 -
[111] - Quote
Lord Vandurock wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:At a cursory glance, it looks like you were trying to force an application by running around and contacting people who weren't even related to the pending application and getting them to sign off on it. This is usually very, very suspicious behaviour.
Hopefully someone has the complete picture and can unpick this, but it looks very much like you're just trying to cover your ass for your own misconduct. I was contacted by a Goon representaive from the get go... They had my items contracted and I was left in a pod unable to do anything. Of course I am going to try and find a rep. that can help me. This was a scam that there wasnt anyway to know really that it was one. I just wanted to make sure that everything was proceeding with the application so I could resume gameplay. Any player in my situation would have been trying to do the same thing, not just sit around and wait. I do not understand what exactly I would be covering considering these events. A rep. is there to contact about any recruiting needs, correct?
There was a way to know this was a scam. Ask just about anyone in EVE or read the forums. This is a well known scam that Goonswarm has been doing for years. You got suckered your about to get suckered again by the same people who suckered you the first time. /smh |

Cpt Roghie
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
105
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 20:59:00 -
[112] - Quote
Lord Vandurock wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:At a cursory glance, it looks like you were trying to force an application by running around and contacting people who weren't even related to the pending application and getting them to sign off on it. This is usually very, very suspicious behaviour.
Hopefully someone has the complete picture and can unpick this, but it looks very much like you're just trying to cover your ass for your own misconduct. I was contacted by a Goon representaive from the get go... They had my items contracted and I was left in a pod unable to do anything. Of course I am going to try and find a rep. that can help me. This was a scam that there wasnt anyway to know really that it was one. I just wanted to make sure that everything was proceeding with the application so I could resume gameplay. Any player in my situation would have been trying to do the same thing, not just sit around and wait. I do not understand what exactly I would be covering considering these events. A rep. is there to contact about any recruiting needs, correct?
It's funny how you're defending your stupidity with more stupidity. This could be fun. |

Darius JOHNSON
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 22:14:00 -
[113] - Quote
No need for name calling here guys we're in desperate need of fresh blood. We should be helping this gentleman get his application materials to the proper place rather than tearing him down. What would Jesus do? That's what I always ask myself before making a post and maybe some of you could stand to learn a bit from that example. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2908
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 22:15:00 -
[114] - Quote
What is this? Why are you attempting to tarnish my honourable space-reputation with these filthy lies? The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1861
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 22:57:00 -
[115] - Quote
Lord Vandurock wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:At a cursory glance, it looks like you were trying to force an application by running around and contacting people who weren't even related to the pending application and getting them to sign off on it. This is usually very, very suspicious behaviour.
Hopefully someone has the complete picture and can unpick this, but it looks very much like you're just trying to cover your ass for your own misconduct. I was contacted by a Goon representaive from the get go... They had my items contracted and I was left in a pod unable to do anything. Of course I am going to try and find a rep. that can help me. This was a scam that there wasnt anyway to know really that it was one. I just wanted to make sure that everything was proceeding with the application so I could resume gameplay. Any player in my situation would have been trying to do the same thing, not just sit around and wait. I do not understand what exactly I would be covering considering these events. A rep. is there to contact about any recruiting needs, correct? No, none of this is right, how do you think it could be?
We have a very strict recruitment procedure and very strict guidelines against scamming, but as soon as you run into a public chat and start asking around for someone to give your ISK to .... well, not everyone can be trusted. I mean, reports show that over 75% of businesses experience employee fraud, and this is in the real world, with real jails to be sent to - how far do you think you can trust random, anonymous, internet persons when they contact you after you walk in waving your money around?
None of this is right, you don't just try jumping over your recruiter the first time you need to wait more than 5 minutes for a response.
Hopefully (for your sake) there's a paper-trail that shows this is legit, because it's going to be very, very hard to unpick the truth given you've just been running around contacting everyone and anyone you could find and giving them money and generating new/different applications.
Surely at some point we would need to work out if it's even worth the effort? - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1861
|
Posted - 2013.05.20 23:00:00 -
[116] - Quote
Solderan wrote:There was a way to know this was a scam. Ask just about anyone in EVE or read the forums. This is a well known scam that Goonswarm has been doing for years. You got suckered your about to get suckered again by the same people who suckered you the first time. /smh There's like 10 people from our organisation in here trying to make this right, what the **** nonsense is this? Funnily enough, when enough people parrot a lie, it looks real. You'll notice most are faceless alts. 
Or you could use logic and realise the largest organisations in the game probably didn't get that large by not recruiting. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10622
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 00:38:00 -
[117] - Quote
Solderan, dear space friend, hello. Why don't you tell me what your grief is and perhaps we can resolve it? :) Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |

Solderan
Intergalactic Combined Technologies
2
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 00:57:00 -
[118] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Solderan, dear space friend, hello. Why don't you tell me what your grief is and perhaps we can resolve it? :) Me? no grief. I've never been involved with you guys before. I've seen hundreds of posts over the years about the recruitment scam tho. |

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
368
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 01:08:00 -
[119] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Solderan, dear space friend, hello. Why don't you tell me what your grief is and perhaps we can resolve it? :) Lyris is a Space Viper, best avoided. Fools and their Interstellar Kredits are Soon Parted. |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1644
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 04:09:00 -
[120] - Quote
My friend Menju would never scam. I'm going to have to challenge you to a duel at the sun good sir. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10622
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 04:15:00 -
[121] - Quote
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Solderan, dear space friend, hello. Why don't you tell me what your grief is and perhaps we can resolve it? :) Lyris is a Space Viper, best avoided. That is an awfully weird way to spell, "friend." It is a known fact that I am space friend to all. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1644
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 05:03:00 -
[122] - Quote
I'll be your space friend. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10622
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 05:28:00 -
[123] - Quote
yay Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |

Darius JOHNSON
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 07:14:00 -
[124] - Quote
Solderan wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Solderan, dear space friend, hello. Why don't you tell me what your grief is and perhaps we can resolve it? :) Me? no grief. I've never been involved with you guys before. I've seen hundreds of posts over the years about the recruitment scam tho. Khanh'rhh wrote:There's like 10 people from our organisation in here trying to make this right, what the **** nonsense is this? Funnily enough, when enough people parrot a lie, it looks real. You'll notice most are faceless alts.  https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Joining_GoonWaffe from your own wiki. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=129305http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1434786http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1384922-0/page/all I could go on. With a history like that its hard to take you guys at your word. http://raynor.cl/eve/coalition.php and as for needing recruits your the second largest alliance in eve again hard to take you guys at your word. Don't get me wrong tho I have nothing against what ya'll do this is eve after all and the gullible are quickly parted from their isk. If this is true and you really are turning over a new leaf I'd be disapointed in you all. You have provided me with many lulz over the years.
Oh look someone who doesn't know how the internet works and is linking spoofed links nice try |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1863
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 14:00:00 -
[125] - Quote
You're quoting what I said you would find - faceless alts parroting the same thing over and over. Other than that you quote an old page from our wiki last changed in like 2009. The front page of our site (2013) says:
Quote:Applications will require a sponsorship key from a recruiter. You should have been given one of these already; if not ask your recruiter. Your application will be processed by our team of magic robots, and will usually process in 24 to 48 hours.
Most applications will require some form of security deposit, as calculated by the risk of your account being a spy. This deposit (if any) will be refunded in 30 days of non-spy behavior, or if you choose to leave us earlier (Please don't leave us, we love you!)
What this guy did, was instead of talking to his recruiter he ran off to find another one because he didn't want to wait. In doing so, he ran into some people who were upto no good AND gave his actual recruiter a massive problem to unpick.
The instructions are really simple, instead he seems to think the world revolves around him and our procedures need to be circumvented.
But yes, this thread is evidence of us changing to be more welcoming to people who want to join us .. though frankly everytime someone like Lord Vandurock comes and makes a giant public mess of it like this there's a lot of disagreement as to whether we should at all  - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

Solderan
Intergalactic Combined Technologies
2
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 14:46:00 -
[126] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:You're quoting what I said you would find - faceless alts parroting the same thing over and over. Other than that you quote an old page from our wiki last changed in like 2009. The front page of our site (2013) says: Quote:Applications will require a sponsorship key from a recruiter. You should have been given one of these already; if not ask your recruiter. Your application will be processed by our team of magic robots, and will usually process in 24 to 48 hours.
Most applications will require some form of security deposit, as calculated by the risk of your account being a spy. This deposit (if any) will be refunded in 30 days of non-spy behavior, or if you choose to leave us earlier (Please don't leave us, we love you!) What this guy did, was instead of talking to his recruiter he ran off to find another one because he didn't want to wait. In doing so, he ran into some people who were upto no good AND gave his actual recruiter a massive problem to unpick. The instructions are really simple, instead he seems to think the world revolves around him and our procedures need to be circumvented. But yes, this thread is evidence of us changing to be more welcoming to people who want to join us .. though frankly everytime someone like Lord Vandurock comes and makes a giant public mess of it like this there's a lot of disagreement as to whether we should at all  Ahh the joys of Impatience. I'm curious whats with the new doctrine? Has Mittens gone soft? You guys have a huge presence in eve and doesn't seem like your really hurting for numbers. An for real all of the previous recruitment scams were never actually authorized by upper management? How do you guys let something like that go on for so long without doing something about it? As for the player your attempting to recruit maybe you shouldnt let him in. If he can't follow basic instructions to join then can he folllow basic instructions out in Null sec where your sov and moon goo is at stake? |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
91
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 16:39:00 -
[127] - Quote
I think I see what the problem is. My understanding is that the deposit amount is 500m isk. Not 300, not 450, etc.
Also, did you be sure you are signing up under the J4G program? I believe after you pay the refundable deposit and contract your items to your new home, you are asked to go to a specific website and introduce yourself.
Are you sure you have no assets left? Did check the assets screen? If you need help, I know some guys who are really good finding additional assets you may have forgotten. Contact me in game if interested.
Furthermore, I hate scammers, and I want to see you recover from this horrible ordeal. Perhaps you have isk that you have not considered? Did you check any balances on Eveapolous or Somer Blink? Did you check your other toons?
If you do manage to find isk, go ahead and play my game in bio. To help you out the most, I am hoping you have around 5 billion laying around somewhere that you forgot about. That my friend would get you a 25 billion isk payout. Just please post your results in the forum after ok? You can surely buy all your lost items and ships back with that after. Then we can talk about hunting down every single one who scammed you.
I am here for you friend.
Regards,
Ero
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2912
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 16:40:00 -
[128] - Quote
I am still awaiting a response from Lord Vandurockockock as to why he is attempting to sully my honourable space-reputation with out at least providing some of his obviously trumped up evidence. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1865
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 20:34:00 -
[129] - Quote
Solderan wrote:Ahh the joys of Impatience. I'm curious whats with the new doctrine? Has Mittens gone soft? You guys have a huge presence in eve and doesn't seem like your really hurting for numbers. An for real all of the previous recruitment scams were never actually authorized by upper management? How do you guys let something like that go on for so long without doing something about it? As for the player your attempting to recruit maybe you shouldnt let him in. If he can't follow basic instructions to join then can he folllow basic instructions out in Null sec where your sov and moon goo is at stake? Law of large numbers, I'm afraid. Though hundreds of applications go without a hitch, it's the one where it all goes wrong and someone is out of pocket that makes it to the forums. I'm sure if everyone who joined with no problem made a post about it, the pervasive image of GSF would be better than Eve-university.
The worst part of the whole thing, really, is you get people like Mallak who probably spend 5x more time helping people who just won't follow instructions than they do actually playing the game themselves, and these people still decide the right thing to do is run to the forums and try to smear their name ... for whatever good that is meant to do them.
If Lord V ever gets back to us and sorts his **** out, I would hope the first thing he does is spend a week building newbee frigates and paying back the effort. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

Solderan
Intergalactic Combined Technologies
2
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 22:30:00 -
[130] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Solderan wrote:Ahh the joys of Impatience. I'm curious whats with the new doctrine? Has Mittens gone soft? You guys have a huge presence in eve and doesn't seem like your really hurting for numbers. An for real all of the previous recruitment scams were never actually authorized by upper management? How do you guys let something like that go on for so long without doing something about it? As for the player your attempting to recruit maybe you shouldnt let him in. If he can't follow basic instructions to join then can he folllow basic instructions out in Null sec where your sov and moon goo is at stake? Law of large numbers, I'm afraid. Though hundreds of applications go without a hitch, it's the one where it all goes wrong and someone is out of pocket that makes it to the forums. I'm sure if everyone who joined with no problem made a post about it, the pervasive image of GSF would be better than Eve-university. The worst part of the whole thing, really, is you get people like Mallak who probably spend 5x more time helping people who just won't follow instructions than they do actually playing the game themselves, and these people still decide the right thing to do is run to the forums and try to smear their name ... for whatever good that is meant to do them. If Lord V ever gets back to us and sorts his **** out, I would hope the first thing he does is spend a week building newbee frigates and paying back the effort. And spending a lot of time in goon bootcamp learning to fly in a fleet I.E follow instructions! |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10626
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 22:48:00 -
[131] - Quote
Khanh'rhh wrote:Solderan wrote:Ahh the joys of Impatience. I'm curious whats with the new doctrine? Has Mittens gone soft? You guys have a huge presence in eve and doesn't seem like your really hurting for numbers. An for real all of the previous recruitment scams were never actually authorized by upper management? How do you guys let something like that go on for so long without doing something about it? As for the player your attempting to recruit maybe you shouldnt let him in. If he can't follow basic instructions to join then can he folllow basic instructions out in Null sec where your sov and moon goo is at stake? Law of large numbers, I'm afraid. Though hundreds of applications go without a hitch, it's the one where it all goes wrong and someone is out of pocket that makes it to the forums. I'm sure if everyone who joined with no problem made a post about it, the pervasive image of GSF would be better than Eve-university. The worst part of the whole thing, really, is you get people like Mallak who probably spend 5x more time helping people who just won't follow instructions than they do actually playing the game themselves, and these people still decide the right thing to do is run to the forums and try to smear their name ... for whatever good that is meant to do them. If Lord V ever gets back to us and sorts his **** out, I would hope the first thing he does is spend a week building newbee frigates and paying back the effort. From my own experience, having started in EVE University in '08 and then joined Goonwaffe in '10 (after paying my 500 million ISK fee with no problems), both organizations are run by people who mostly post or delegate rather than do things in space. There would be no skill book program in E-UNI, no ship replacement program in GEWNS, and no functioning alliance in either regard if not for the people who tirelessly work behind the scenes to provide logistics and herd cats. Jump bridges need fuel; reimbursement requests need verification; payouts need to be authorized; applications need sorting; and so on. Newbies are the best part of EVE Online, and especially about both EVE University and Goonswarm, but as they say it takes the Village People to raise a child and there are many details, pitfalls and stumbling blocks.
I am space friends with everyone, especially newbies (and most especially newbies in Rifters), so I don't tend to assume any ill will on the part of someone else unless they make it clear. If there is any wrongdoing on the part of Lord V, then I am sure it was well-intended and that he will learn better once he's in a more supportive environment than C+P. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |

Malak Dawnfire
The Scope Gallente Federation
153
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 22:54:00 -
[132] - Quote
I have been wronged by Goonswarm! Why won't you let me into your fanclub!?  |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10626
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 23:03:00 -
[133] - Quote
Malak Dawnfire wrote:I have been wronged by Goonswarm! Why won't you let me into your fanclub!?  You can join my fanclub! GÖÑ Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |

Solderan
Intergalactic Combined Technologies
3
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 23:34:00 -
[134] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Malak Dawnfire wrote:I have been wronged by Goonswarm! Why won't you let me into your fanclub!?  You can join my fanclub! GÖÑ I haven't been wronged by goonswarm in anyways can I join you fanclub too? |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10626
|
Posted - 2013.05.21 23:41:00 -
[135] - Quote
Solderan wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Malak Dawnfire wrote:I have been wronged by Goonswarm! Why won't you let me into your fanclub!?  You can join my fanclub! GÖÑ I haven't been wronged by goonswarm in anyways can I join you fanclub too? Of course, space friend! Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
368
|
Posted - 2013.05.22 01:10:00 -
[136] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Boom Boom Longtime wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Solderan, dear space friend, hello. Why don't you tell me what your grief is and perhaps we can resolve it? :) Lyris is a Space Viper, best avoided. That is an awfully weird way to spell, "friend." It is a known fact that I am space friend to all. Kaa the Snake made the same proclamations to Mogwai in the Jungle Book. Fools and their Interstellar Kredits are Soon Parted. |

Green Beans
The Scope Gallente Federation
31
|
Posted - 2013.05.22 02:30:00 -
[137] - Quote
Alice Saki wrote:...They treated me badly out of Eve ...In Planetside 2 kept getting kicked out the goons Galaxy  I Only wanted to help! 
OMG There's Goons in Planetside! I just unsubscribed! Goons belong in Eve! This line for rent! YOUR AD HERE! |

Cuddling Thundersuck
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.22 05:43:00 -
[138] - Quote
Another satisfied new Goonswarm recruit checking in!
All of this garbage about untrustworthy Goons is just like bad reviews anywhere else on the internet. When someone has a great experience at Pizza Hut, or gets a great new hair dryer online, you don't hear about it. Why? Because the person is off happily using their new hair dryer and eating pizza!! But, when someone has a lousy experience they post all over the internet about it screaming bloody murder!
Our corp's reputation is the same. Goon numbers speak for themselves! How could there be thousands of goons if they really screwed everyone who came their way??
Here's my story: When I came to EVE I made some new friends and had some fun adventures, but I always heard about the Goonswarm and it sounded right up my alley - lots of PvP (always my favorite part of a new game ), friendly toons to hang out with at night, and just an all around tight group of people - kind of like the family that I don't have such a great relationship with in RL .
So, I talked to a recruiter, who made it clear that there were strict rules about joining up, and who TOLD me those rules in the first ten minutes of talking with me. I knew I'd need to pay a deposit. I knew I couldn't get impatient, or go over his head, or go running off screaming "GOONS SCAM" to whoever would listen. So, after having a great conversation with the recruitment associate, I decided to make the investment.
Since I had very little history, so I could have been a spy, I understood why I needed to get the 1 billion isk for the deposit. So, I took the plunge and traded for my deposit and submitted the isk. My recruiter explained that it would sit in the Goonswarm investment fund where it would actually earn interest before being returned. I was supposed to get my isk back in 30 days. But, after playing about 16 hours a day with my new mates in 0space, my deposit was returned early -- with interest (1.1billion total returned)-- after only 10 days. The Goons could tell I was a good fit as soon as we started flying together!
So yes, joining up with the Goonswarm requires some trust. But, wasn't I asking for quite a bit of trust in return? I immediately had access to corp hangers, the reimbursement system, bridges, cynos, an incredible forum and wiki setup, supercap locations, and other stuff I didn't even know existed in Eve until I started learning with Goonswarm. Trust goes both ways.
Now I'm happily recruiting other new high quality pilots that will be a good fit in our crew. Don't break the rules, do what you agree to do, don't cause a huge headache for me and my superior officers (who will have my ass for wasting my time and theirs fixing some stupid mistake made by a recruit) and don't be a spy. All pretty reasonable expectations from a corp with the this level of membership, quality, respect and responsibility to the entire universe of EVE.
Sure, bad experiences may sometimes happen. They always do, and the mark of a quality corp is what they do about it to get it resolved once the problem occurs. The reason we have such a rigorous recruitment process is to keep out the sort of garbage who might scam someone. So, we're all in this together.
Alright boys, I'll see you in nullsec -- if you can take the heat!   o7o7o7o7o7o7o7
Cuddling Thundersuck
Recruitment Associate
Goonswarm Recruitment Division |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1648
|
Posted - 2013.05.23 04:34:00 -
[139] - Quote
Snotshot spy alt spotted. |

Jeremy Ballin
Star Frontiers The Unthinkables
13
|
Posted - 2013.05.23 20:58:00 -
[140] - Quote
I would like to hope that this is for real. Way back when I first started this game I worked my ass off to buy my first hulk, only to have it immediately stolen by goons. Nowadays I obviously don't give a damn about one hulk, but it is still ****** up to scam brand new players just wanting to pvp and find some friends. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
139
|
Posted - 2013.05.23 21:17:00 -
[141] - Quote
Jeremy Ballin wrote:I would like to hope that this is for real. Way back when I first started this game I worked my ass off to buy my first hulk, only to have it immediately stolen by goons. Nowadays I obviously don't give a damn about one hulk, but it is still ****** up to scam brand new players just wanting to pvp and find some friends.
Well certainly get in touch with him and see if you can get back what you lost.
In the meantime, chat me up in game when you get a chance. I want to prove to you that there are good, decent people in Eve. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10635
|
Posted - 2013.05.24 03:46:00 -
[142] - Quote
SmilingVagrant wrote:Snotshot spy alt spotted.
Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |

Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
605
|
Posted - 2013.05.28 14:58:00 -
[143] - Quote
Just a quick update. We've started ruling on a majority of the requests and are starting to give refunds to the offended parties. If you have not received notification, please be patient as we have a lot of requests to process. Thank you for your patience, and once again I would like to apologize on behalf of the Goonswarm Federation, specifically GoonWaffe for the unsavory recruiting practices that required this thread.
We all need to find a way to co-exist in New Eden and I hope this thread can be the bridge between our two communities.
Fly safe o7,
Colonel Aryndel Vyst Sr. Recruitment Director 110th Logistics Squadron Office: VFK-IV, Deklein |

March rabbit
epTa Team Inc.
695
|
Posted - 2013.05.28 15:19:00 -
[144] - Quote
it's not that goonswarm was forgotten 
however thread is funny |

Zapp Brenigan
Ishukone Black Watch
25
|
Posted - 2013.05.28 17:42:00 -
[145] - Quote
Dear OP,
I would like to report a horrendous oversight. I have never been scammed by a Goon. I have never been approached by a Goon or as far as I know even shot at by a Goon. I find this unconscionable. Restitution must be paid immediately. I will accept $5 billion payable in isk or equivalent value of PLEX. As an additional bonus, and a show of good faith, you should also include a cargo hold full of exotic dancers and Quafe. I know that your Space E-Honor will compel you to immediately pay said restitution. I hope that I do not have to escalate this claim, after all I am a 25-Star General with an illustrious career defending good against those wily neutrals, you wouldn't want to defraud a veteran would you?
Signed,
The Zapper Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
21
|
Posted - 2013.05.28 19:16:00 -
[146] - Quote
Zapp Brenigan wrote: I would like to report a horrendous oversight. I have never been scammed by a Goon. I have never been approached by a Goon or as far as I know even shot at by a Goon.
Nobodies without history get the attention they deserve. "You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now..."-á-á-Authorized Pixel Distributor
Tell The Others |

Syrenni
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.29 06:06:00 -
[147] - Quote
So, I have requested to join. Application id:3f023e1dde054d2b . I had paid the application fee. Why is it not processed yet and why the site still show as unpaid? It's been almost 20 days and I still have not get a response. I know you guys maybe busy but can someone at least give me a respond?
Thank you in advance. |

Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
606
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 02:31:00 -
[148] - Quote
We've started purging the guilty parties involved with scamming. As it stands we've purged about 2000 pilots and alts from GoonWaffe today. I am still working on reimbursement requests however they need to be cleared by our finance team first.
Thanks again for your patience.
|

Skex Relbore
Space Exploitation Inc Get Off My Lawn
255
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 15:00:00 -
[149] - Quote
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/GoonWaffe/stats/2013-05-26:2013-05-29
And everyone thought he was just playing around. |

Xuixien
Elysium Dominion
312
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 17:20:00 -
[150] - Quote
If duders are too ******** to do a quick Google search then they deserve to lose their ISKies. Everyone vs Everyone Xuixien - Space Cat, Queen of Rens |

Dimebagg
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.01 06:29:00 -
[151] - Quote
I have made an application with one of your recruiters. Apparently i was accepted then was connected with one of your logistics officers. However i am looking at moving 10billion plus of gear and im afraid of being scammed. Is there someway i can talk with someone higher up so i can feel safe i wont lose my gear i the shipping.
The guy i talked iwth in logistics was a man called bison and the recruiter was neobob
|

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
181
|
Posted - 2013.06.01 19:55:00 -
[152] - Quote
Dimebagg wrote:I have made an application with one of your recruiters. Apparently i was accepted then was connected with one of your logistics officers. However i am looking at moving 10billion plus of gear and im afraid of being scammed. Is there someway i can talk with someone higher up so i can feel safe i wont lose my gear i the shipping.
The guy i talked iwth in logistics was a man called bison and the recruiter was neobob
If you are afraid of losing your assets, why do you think they should trust you?
Trust runs both ways. I am certain everything will be taken care of smoothly for you. If this is the corp you wish to join, have faith. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2971
|
Posted - 2013.06.02 06:31:00 -
[153] - Quote
Dimebagg wrote:I have made an application with one of your recruiters. Apparently i was accepted then was connected with one of your logistics officers. However i am looking at moving 10billion plus of gear and im afraid of being scammed. Is there someway i can talk with someone higher up so i can feel safe i wont lose my gear i the shipping.
The guy i talked iwth in logistics was a man called bison and the recruiter was neobob
During Fanfest I was given food vouchers by our Dear Leader. Only important people get food vouchers so feel free to contact me & we'll get you sorted out. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10681
|
Posted - 2013.06.02 07:39:00 -
[154] - Quote
Skex Relbore wrote:http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/GoonWaffe/stats/2013-05-26:2013-05-29
And everyone thought he was just playing around. Holy Hell. That's a lot of purges. Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |

Raisa Gorbachova
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.04 20:27:00 -
[155] - Quote
So if half of people were purged for scamming invitations, does is mean that Goonwaffe now is fully made of scammed noobs ? |

Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
618
|
Posted - 2013.06.05 12:31:00 -
[156] - Quote
Raisa Gorbachova wrote:So if half of people were purged for scamming invitations, does is mean that Goonwaffe now is fully made of scammed noobs ?
No it means that I've weeded out the pilots with less than stellar character and we're now going to represent EVE as the proper null sec role model citizens we should be. |

Agent Known
The Agency.
15
|
Posted - 2013.06.09 16:18:00 -
[157] - Quote
Aryndel Vyst wrote:Raisa Gorbachova wrote:So if half of people were purged for scamming invitations, does is mean that Goonwaffe now is fully made of scammed noobs ? No it means that I've weeded out the pilots with less than stellar character and we're now going to represent EVE as the proper null sec role model citizens we should be.
 |

Eric Raeder
No Fee Too High
30
|
Posted - 2013.06.09 20:41:00 -
[158] - Quote
Aryndel Vyst wrote:Raisa Gorbachova wrote:So if half of people were purged for scamming invitations, does is mean that Goonwaffe now is fully made of scammed noobs ? No it means that I've weeded out the pilots with less than stellar character and we're now going to represent EVE as the proper null sec role model citizens we should be.
I am not sure how to take this. I have been following this thread assuming it's just more disinformation laying the groundwork for another Goonie scheme. But the guy is actually beginning to make me think he might be real. Omigod, the goons going legit? They won't be the goons anymore ! What'll we do when things get boring and we need someone to kick over the ash heap? |

Aramis Rosicrux
Ghost Core
7
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 03:00:00 -
[159] - Quote
Arkady Vachon wrote:Sounds legit.
Also sounds like a good way to harvest many tales of tears and woe for fapping and general hilarity.
Share?
So valuable were the tears of the victims that a very special tear collection apparatus was developed to collect them.
Picture link. http://richardharland.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/anitalarkin1.jpg
Enjoy. |

Syrenni
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 06:09:00 -
[160] - Quote
So, I was contacted by the head recruiter the day before. He asked me for a full API and I gave him. And now he blocked me. What happened? |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3080
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 06:14:00 -
[161] - Quote
Syrenni wrote:So, I was contacted by the head recruiter the day before. He asked me for a full API and I gave him. And now he blocked me. What happened?
Your case has been passed on to me. Contact me when you get the chance. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |

Signal11th
The Retirement Club
989
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 10:04:00 -
[162] - Quote
Posting in the "I'm very stupid and gullible" thread.
Personally although no fan of GSF I find the GSF recruitment scheme to be a very valid way of weeding out the less intellectual of the EVE populous.
Keep on the good work. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |

Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1544
|
Posted - 2013.06.10 19:35:00 -
[163] - Quote
Although not a fan of Aryndel's work, I can not help but deny that it has been very effective. Goonswarm is now a nicer place to be, a warmer place to hang out and just a fantastic place to play internet spaceships and mine ore with friends.
I may have been derogatory at the beginning, Aryndel. I may have said some swears and laughed in your face, but you've done well. Congratulations. |

Qiwi'Lisolet
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 08:47:00 -
[164] - Quote
This thread is another reason why I am actually very surprised that goonswarm members at fanfest are never shot or beaten to death. I'm not sure I'd be able to hold back if I had been scammed out of 1.86b (or whatever the number was). I'd be breaking bones if I knew leadership was there.
Oh and if you're stupid enough to fall for the **** being said in this thread, you deserve to have your tears harvested. Goons are goons, they'll never be anything else. |

Signal11th
The Retirement Club
993
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 08:55:00 -
[165] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:This thread is another reason why I am actually very surprised that goonswarm members at fanfest are never shot or beaten to death. I'm not sure I'd be able to hold back if I had been scammed out of 1.86b (or whatever the number was). I'd be breaking bones if I knew leadership was there.
Oh and if you're stupid enough to fall for the **** being said in this thread, you deserve to have your tears harvested. Goons are goons, they'll never be anything else.
So the answer to someone outhinking you would be to do violence upon them.....nice :-)
If people aren't greedy then 99% of all scams fail period, people unfortunately don't like to made to look stupid and prefer to blame other people for their ills instead of their own foolishness and greed. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |

Mortlake
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
8
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 10:28:00 -
[166] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:This thread is another reason why I am actually very surprised that goonswarm members at fanfest are never shot or beaten to death. I'm not sure I'd be able to hold back if I had been scammed out of 1.86b
Inorite? Losing $70 would almost certainly send me over the edge... especially when you consider just how real EVE is. |

Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
628
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 17:18:00 -
[167] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:
Oh and if you're stupid enough to fall for the **** being said in this thread, you deserve to have your tears harvested. Goons are goons, they'll never be anything else.
That's rather judgmental of you. I don't discard your opinion because you're a nameless alt in a high sec corp hiding behind additional layers of anonymity in order to throw barbs at our organization so why would you discard mine? I can't see where I've been any less than truthful in this thread. I kicked out offending members, as I said I would do. I'll be perfectly honest - with the nerf to technetium we just don't have the money we used to and our ability to fund SRP will always surpass the ability for us to show goodwill to New Eden. I'm not saying I'll never get reimbursements for the people that got scammed, but I'm saying that everyone needs to be patient. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
413
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 17:37:00 -
[168] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:This thread is another reason why I am actually very surprised that goonswarm members at fanfest are never shot or beaten to death. I'm not sure I'd be able to hold back if I had been scammed out of 1.86b (or whatever the number was). I'd be breaking bones if I knew leadership was there.
Oh and if you're stupid enough to fall for the **** being said in this thread, you deserve to have your tears harvested. Goons are goons, they'll never be anything else.
It's a good thing I'm honest. I wouldn't want you to do bodily harm to me if I wasn't. Speaking of, let's chat in game in a bit. I'd like to help you make some isk. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Prince of Nigeria
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 20:27:00 -
[169] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:This thread is another reason why I am actually very surprised that goonswarm members at fanfest are never shot or beaten to death. I'm not sure I'd be able to hold back if I had been scammed out of 1.86b (or whatever the number was). I'd be breaking bones if I knew leadership was there.
Oh and if you're stupid enough to fall for the **** being said in this thread, you deserve to have your tears harvested. Goons are goons, they'll never be anything else.
2 bil ain't much isk. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3092
|
Posted - 2013.06.13 11:19:00 -
[170] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:This thread is another reason why I am actually very surprised that goonswarm members at fanfest are never shot or beaten to death. I'm not sure I'd be able to hold back if I had been scammed out of 1.86b (or whatever the number was). I'd be breaking bones if I knew leadership was there.
Oh and if you're stupid enough to fall for the **** being said in this thread, you deserve to have your tears harvested. Goons are goons, they'll never be anything else.
Yes I'm sure people are just lining up to spend time in a foreign jail over computer game money. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |

Qiwi'Lisolet
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2013.06.17 23:06:00 -
[171] - Quote
Aryndel Vyst wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:
Oh and if you're stupid enough to fall for the **** being said in this thread, you deserve to have your tears harvested. Goons are goons, they'll never be anything else.
That's rather judgmental of you. I don't discard your opinion because you're a nameless alt in a high sec corp hiding behind additional layers of anonymity in order to throw barbs at our organization so why would you discard mine? I can't see where I've been any less than truthful in this thread. I kicked out offending members, as I said I would do. I'll be perfectly honest - with the nerf to technetium we just don't have the money we used to and our ability to fund SRP will always surpass the ability for us to show goodwill to New Eden. I'm not saying I'll never get reimbursements for the people that got scammed, but I'm saying that everyone needs to be patient.
I'm not an alt. lol You're a goon. A goon is never honest - if you don't like that reputation, you shouldn't have allowed goons to build it in the first place. |

Qiwi'Lisolet
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2013.06.17 23:09:00 -
[172] - Quote
Signal11th wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:This thread is another reason why I am actually very surprised that goonswarm members at fanfest are never shot or beaten to death. I'm not sure I'd be able to hold back if I had been scammed out of 1.86b (or whatever the number was). I'd be breaking bones if I knew leadership was there.
Oh and if you're stupid enough to fall for the **** being said in this thread, you deserve to have your tears harvested. Goons are goons, they'll never be anything else. So the answer to someone outhinking you would be to do violence upon them.....nice :-)
A goon think?! That's great - congrats on the best joke in this entire thread! =D Next you'll say that TEST does too! hah
|

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
554
|
Posted - 2013.06.17 23:51:00 -
[173] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Aryndel Vyst wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:
Oh and if you're stupid enough to fall for the **** being said in this thread, you deserve to have your tears harvested. Goons are goons, they'll never be anything else.
That's rather judgmental of you. I don't discard your opinion because you're a nameless alt in a high sec corp hiding behind additional layers of anonymity in order to throw barbs at our organization so why would you discard mine? I can't see where I've been any less than truthful in this thread. I kicked out offending members, as I said I would do. I'll be perfectly honest - with the nerf to technetium we just don't have the money we used to and our ability to fund SRP will always surpass the ability for us to show goodwill to New Eden. I'm not saying I'll never get reimbursements for the people that got scammed, but I'm saying that everyone needs to be patient. I'm not an alt. lol You're a goon. A goon is never honest - if you don't like that reputation, you shouldn't have allowed goons to build it in the first place.
Be respectful please. Aryndel Vyst has spent a lot of his personal time and energy cleaning things up over there. Instead of bad-mouthing him, you should send him a donation in thanks along with an apology. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

valentine wolf XII
J.T. Marlin Financial and Legal Services
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 00:33:00 -
[174] - Quote
I was just recently scammed by a GF recruiter for just shy of 2 billion. I have sent you a message Aryndel in game and I look forward to your reply. I provided you with all the names, time stamps and a full API key so you can verify the transactions.
I look forward to your reply. |

E Phoenix
Computer Widow Makers
1
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 04:32:00 -
[175] - Quote
So I am trying to figure out what the angle is here, and not having much luck.
I took a 2 year break from Eve and decided to join the Goons upon my return, I contacted the "Lead Recruitment Officer" for Sundering. Enroute to the appropraite system to "join up" and get escourted out to Null sec, I contracted over a number of ships.
Needles to say it was a hoax, a valuable reminder of what to expect in Eve.
I contacted them back, commended them for the scam and confirmed that I was serious in joining up, where they attempted to scam me out of a further 800mil... I was dumb for falling for the first one, so obviously decided to not lose any more money.
Goonswarm Federation are widely known for scamming, you even have a channel in-game to send the newly scammed.
So what's the angle here? Can't be to collect more tears and no one is going to send you more money to get back what they hav lost...?  |

Qiwi'Lisolet
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 11:50:00 -
[176] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Aryndel Vyst wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:
Oh and if you're stupid enough to fall for the **** being said in this thread, you deserve to have your tears harvested. Goons are goons, they'll never be anything else.
That's rather judgmental of you. I don't discard your opinion because you're a nameless alt in a high sec corp hiding behind additional layers of anonymity in order to throw barbs at our organization so why would you discard mine? I can't see where I've been any less than truthful in this thread. I kicked out offending members, as I said I would do. I'll be perfectly honest - with the nerf to technetium we just don't have the money we used to and our ability to fund SRP will always surpass the ability for us to show goodwill to New Eden. I'm not saying I'll never get reimbursements for the people that got scammed, but I'm saying that everyone needs to be patient. I'm not an alt. lol You're a goon. A goon is never honest - if you don't like that reputation, you shouldn't have allowed goons to build it in the first place. Be respectful please. Aryndel Vyst has spent a lot of his personal time and energy cleaning things up over there. Instead of bad-mouthing him, you should send him a donation in thanks along with an apology.
Goons don't spend personal time doing anything but acting like children, drinking and grieving. They never have and they likely never will. Chances are more than this is just another goon sponsored scam made to look legit. (like most of their other ones). I repeat: Once a goon, always a goon.
More likely than not, they're using this "kicking out people for bad behavior" as a cover for them moving the majority of their core into another alliance or temporary set up until said scam is completed. THAT sounds like something goons would do... why? Because that's something people like TEST would also do. ;) |

Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
630
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 12:36:00 -
[177] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Aryndel Vyst wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:
Oh and if you're stupid enough to fall for the **** being said in this thread, you deserve to have your tears harvested. Goons are goons, they'll never be anything else.
That's rather judgmental of you. I don't discard your opinion because you're a nameless alt in a high sec corp hiding behind additional layers of anonymity in order to throw barbs at our organization so why would you discard mine? I can't see where I've been any less than truthful in this thread. I kicked out offending members, as I said I would do. I'll be perfectly honest - with the nerf to technetium we just don't have the money we used to and our ability to fund SRP will always surpass the ability for us to show goodwill to New Eden. I'm not saying I'll never get reimbursements for the people that got scammed, but I'm saying that everyone needs to be patient. I'm not an alt. lol You're a goon. A goon is never honest - if you don't like that reputation, you shouldn't have allowed goons to build it in the first place. Be respectful please. Aryndel Vyst has spent a lot of his personal time and energy cleaning things up over there. Instead of bad-mouthing him, you should send him a donation in thanks along with an apology. Goons don't spend personal time doing anything but acting like children, drinking and grieving. They never have and they likely never will. Chances are more than this is just another goon sponsored scam made to look legit. (like most of their other ones). I repeat: Once a goon, always a goon. More likely than not, they're using this "kicking out people for bad behavior" as a cover for them moving the majority of their core into another alliance or temporary set up until said scam is completed. THAT sounds like something goons would do... why? Because that's something people like TEST would also do. ;)
You know nothing John Snow. |

Relego
The People Who Are Still Alive
2
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 14:13:00 -
[178] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Aryndel Vyst wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:
Oh and if you're stupid enough to fall for the **** being said in this thread, you deserve to have your tears harvested. Goons are goons, they'll never be anything else.
That's rather judgmental of you. I don't discard your opinion because you're a nameless alt in a high sec corp hiding behind additional layers of anonymity in order to throw barbs at our organization so why would you discard mine? I can't see where I've been any less than truthful in this thread. I kicked out offending members, as I said I would do. I'll be perfectly honest - with the nerf to technetium we just don't have the money we used to and our ability to fund SRP will always surpass the ability for us to show goodwill to New Eden. I'm not saying I'll never get reimbursements for the people that got scammed, but I'm saying that everyone needs to be patient. I'm not an alt. lol You're a goon. A goon is never honest - if you don't like that reputation, you shouldn't have allowed goons to build it in the first place. Be respectful please. Aryndel Vyst has spent a lot of his personal time and energy cleaning things up over there. Instead of bad-mouthing him, you should send him a donation in thanks along with an apology. Goons don't spend personal time doing anything but acting like children, drinking and grieving. They never have and they likely never will. Chances are more than this is just another goon sponsored scam made to look legit. (like most of their other ones). I repeat: Once a goon, always a goon. More likely than not, they're using this "kicking out people for bad behavior" as a cover for them moving the majority of their core into another alliance or temporary set up until said scam is completed. THAT sounds like something goons would do... why? Because that's something people like TEST would also do. ;)
If you're attacking someone's cognitive abilities, you should probably learn the difference between "grieving" (usually a victim does this) and "griefing" (this creates said victims).
I'm not normally psycho about grammar and spelling, but when it becomes downright counterproductive... |

flakeys
Interstellar Corporation of Science and Technology Interstellar Confederation
1186
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 14:48:00 -
[179] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:I'm not sure I'd be able to hold back if I had been scammed out of 1.86b (or whatever the number was). I'd be breaking bones if I knew leadership was there.
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Over 1.86 B ? Seriously ?
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Dakman Frogger
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.18 15:42:00 -
[180] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Aryndel Vyst wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:
Oh and if you're stupid enough to fall for the **** being said in this thread, you deserve to have your tears harvested. Goons are goons, they'll never be anything else.
That's rather judgmental of you. I don't discard your opinion because you're a nameless alt in a high sec corp hiding behind additional layers of anonymity in order to throw barbs at our organization so why would you discard mine? I can't see where I've been any less than truthful in this thread. I kicked out offending members, as I said I would do. I'll be perfectly honest - with the nerf to technetium we just don't have the money we used to and our ability to fund SRP will always surpass the ability for us to show goodwill to New Eden. I'm not saying I'll never get reimbursements for the people that got scammed, but I'm saying that everyone needs to be patient. I'm not an alt. lol You're a goon. A goon is never honest - if you don't like that reputation, you shouldn't have allowed goons to build it in the first place. Be respectful please. Aryndel Vyst has spent a lot of his personal time and energy cleaning things up over there. Instead of bad-mouthing him, you should send him a donation in thanks along with an apology. Goons don't spend personal time doing anything but acting like children, drinking and grieving. They never have and they likely never will. Chances are more than this is just another goon sponsored scam made to look legit. (like most of their other ones). I repeat: Once a goon, always a goon. More likely than not, they're using this "kicking out people for bad behavior" as a cover for them moving the majority of their core into another alliance or temporary set up until said scam is completed. THAT sounds like something goons would do... why? Because that's something people like TEST would also do. ;)
Weren't you the jack-ass that got screwed over by a bunch of bronies? And then acted like a "smart-guy" European to try to counter troll, which made you look more butt-hurt than them?
And on top of this, if this is a scam, then where are the requests for money or any sort of capital? Correct me if I am wrong, but a scam requires some sort of physical entity to be parted from the victim's possession and into the scammer's possession. I have not seen any sort of shenanigans yet. All I have seen is them asking for details on the scam, how much was lost, etc. etc., nothing that is of real value. True, it could be a scam later down the line, but with a little vigilance, you'll be fine. And if this is for tears, then there are better ways to get that. Hell, KFC uses tears on their chickens to make them taste better (trufax), so tears are easy to come by. |

Qiwi'Lisolet
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2013.06.19 03:17:00 -
[181] - Quote
Relego wrote:
If you're attacking someone's cognitive abilities, you should probably learn the difference between "grieving" (usually a victim does this) and "griefing" (this creates said victims).
I'm not normally psycho about grammar and spelling, but when it becomes downright counterproductive...
You're assuming I meant "griefing" in the first place. lol Haven't you ever seen Goons ripped apart in wars before? |

Qiwi'Lisolet
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2013.06.19 03:20:00 -
[182] - Quote
Dakman Frogger wrote:
And on top of this, if this is a scam, then where are the requests for money or any sort of capital? Correct me if I am wrong, but a scam requires some sort of physical entity to be parted from the victim's possession and into the scammer's possession. I have not seen any sort of shenanigans yet. All I have seen is them asking for details on the scam, how much was lost, etc. etc., nothing that is of real value. True, it could be a scam later down the line, but with a little vigilance, you'll be fine. And if this is for tears, then there are better ways to get that. Hell, KFC uses tears on their chickens to make them taste better (trufax), so tears are easy to come by.
No, I wouldn't expect anything like that. If Goons are good at one thing, it's long drawn out and patient scams. It doesn't even need to be for assets - they could be harvesting stories which can be used later for all I know. I just know one thing: Goons simply are not honest people. None of them are and for them to just suddenly do a full 360 and become respectful is downright against their entire mentality as reddit kids who'll do anything for tears.
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Sevarend Mortalis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.19 05:16:00 -
[183] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote: Goons don't spend personal time doing anything but drinking and grieving.
I have not been sober for a single day since VileRat died, you're correct on that account. Why must you persecute us for our grief, though?  |

Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
631
|
Posted - 2013.06.19 14:30:00 -
[184] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Dakman Frogger wrote:
And on top of this, if this is a scam, then where are the requests for money or any sort of capital? Correct me if I am wrong, but a scam requires some sort of physical entity to be parted from the victim's possession and into the scammer's possession. I have not seen any sort of shenanigans yet. All I have seen is them asking for details on the scam, how much was lost, etc. etc., nothing that is of real value. True, it could be a scam later down the line, but with a little vigilance, you'll be fine. And if this is for tears, then there are better ways to get that. Hell, KFC uses tears on their chickens to make them taste better (trufax), so tears are easy to come by.
No, I wouldn't expect anything like that. If Goons are good at one thing, it's long drawn out and patient scams. It doesn't even need to be for assets - they could be harvesting stories which can be used later for all I know. I just know one thing: Goons simply are not honest people. None of them are and for them to just suddenly do a full 360 and become respectful is downright against their entire mentality as reddit kids who'll do anything for tears.
That's fine. You're not my target audience then. Glad we got that straightened out. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8270
|
Posted - 2013.06.19 18:04:00 -
[185] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:This thread is another reason why I am actually very surprised that goonswarm members at fanfest are never shot or beaten to death. I'm not sure I'd be able to hold back if I had been scammed out of 1.86b (or whatever the number was). I'd be breaking bones if I knew leadership was there.
i thought /we/ were the sociopaths Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Qiwi'Lisolet
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
4
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 07:31:00 -
[186] - Quote
Andski wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:This thread is another reason why I am actually very surprised that goonswarm members at fanfest are never shot or beaten to death. I'm not sure I'd be able to hold back if I had been scammed out of 1.86b (or whatever the number was). I'd be breaking bones if I knew leadership was there. i thought /we/ were the sociopaths
Don't worry. You still are. |

Qiwi'Lisolet
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
4
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 07:35:00 -
[187] - Quote
Sevarend Mortalis wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote: Goons don't spend personal time doing anything but drinking and grieving.
I have not been sober for a single day since VileRat died, you're correct on that account. Why must you persecute us for our grief, though? 
Oh well. Sorry but Sean was a Goon spy and thus I don't really care. Sucks he died but he did. **** happens. I'd have given a **** had he not been a goon... but he was - goons are subhuman in my opinion - in and out of game. |

Sissy Sockpuppet
State War Academy Caldari State
8
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 08:15:00 -
[188] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:
Oh well. Sorry but Sean was a Goon spy and thus I don't really care. Sucks he died but he did. **** happens. I'd have given a **** had he not been a goon... but he was - goons are subhuman in my opinion - in and out of game.
Wow. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8272
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 11:23:00 -
[189] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Sevarend Mortalis wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote: Goons don't spend personal time doing anything but drinking and grieving.
I have not been sober for a single day since VileRat died, you're correct on that account. Why must you persecute us for our grief, though?  Oh well. Sorry but Sean was a Goon spy and thus I don't really care. Sucks he died but he did. **** happens. I'd have given a **** had he not been a goon... but he was - goons are subhuman in my opinion - in and out of game.
so tryhard it hurts Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8272
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 11:25:00 -
[190] - Quote
unless you really do get angry over things people do in video games
in which case, maybe you shouldn't play video games Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Layx
Please Work Out
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 11:29:00 -
[191] - Quote
If you replace the word "goon" with any random ethnic minority eve-o forums would become indistinguishable from Stormfront, I swear. |

Signal11th
The Retirement Club
1052
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 11:31:00 -
[192] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Sevarend Mortalis wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote: Goons don't spend personal time doing anything but drinking and grieving.
I have not been sober for a single day since VileRat died, you're correct on that account. Why must you persecute us for our grief, though?  Oh well. Sorry but Sean was a Goon spy and thus I don't really care. Sucks he died but he did. **** happens. I'd have given a **** had he not been a goon... but he was - goons are subhuman in my opinion - in and out of game.
Humm I think you will regret that post soon enough not only because it's just plain idiotic!.
Not giving a sh*t that someone died due to the failures of alot of people and then calling him subhuman because he belongs to a group of players you don't like? Madness!
I dislike Goons and what they stand for in game but I'd imagine the world would be a better place if VR was back in it I'm sure his family and friends would believe so. Whatever your thoughts on VR at least he was trying to do something he believed in working in an area that isn't the safest at the best of times??
In game I'd have shot him as soon as see him, Out of game I'd have shook his hand and offered him a pint, that's the difference between reality and getting too involved in a computer game. (or Maturity as I'd think of it)
Can you say the same or are you another "internet warrior" that believes his own stories that he tells his buddies over TS? Powered by Reath Filter V1.23 "All posts by this pilot are personal held views and not representitive of RKK or Retirement Club views or policies. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |

knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
242
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 12:41:00 -
[193] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Sevarend Mortalis wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote: Goons don't spend personal time doing anything but drinking and grieving.
I have not been sober for a single day since VileRat died, you're correct on that account. Why must you persecute us for our grief, though?  Oh well. Sorry but Sean was a Goon spy and thus I don't really care. Sucks he died but he did. **** happens. I'd have given a **** had he not been a goon... but he was - goons are subhuman in my opinion - in and out of game.
Step away from the keyboard. |

Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
631
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 12:44:00 -
[194] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Sevarend Mortalis wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote: Goons don't spend personal time doing anything but drinking and grieving.
I have not been sober for a single day since VileRat died, you're correct on that account. Why must you persecute us for our grief, though?  Oh well. Sorry but Sean was a Goon spy and thus I don't really care. Sucks he died but he did. **** happens. I'd have given a **** had he not been a goon... but he was - goons are subhuman in my opinion - in and out of game.
What's it like being such a bitter disgusting human being? |

Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
278
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 13:10:00 -
[195] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Oh well. Sorry but Sean was a Goon spy and thus I don't really care. Sucks he died but he did. **** happens. I'd have given a **** had he not been a goon... but he was - goons are subhuman in my opinion - in and out of game.
Video games are the only thing in your life, huh? If a video game enemy dies in real life, that makes you happy?
What the **** is wrong with you. |

digi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
175
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 14:41:00 -
[196] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Sevarend Mortalis wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote: Goons don't spend personal time doing anything but drinking and grieving.
I have not been sober for a single day since VileRat died, you're correct on that account. Why must you persecute us for our grief, though?  Oh well. Sorry but Sean was a Goon spy and thus I don't really care. Sucks he died but he did. **** happens. I'd have given a **** had he not been a goon... but he was - goons are subhuman in my opinion - in and out of game.
I realize that you are trying really hard to be edgy. I think our friend would have appreciated your opinion. Might have laughed about it. Worked hard in real life to ensure that people could say insane stuff, whenever/whereever they pleased.
Me, I never really cared for shitlords. VR was teaching me to have more patience with them. Patience is the hardest skill of all.
We aren't all bad except for the ones that will catch you off guard when you least expect it. Years from now.
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Enochx Kaine
State War Academy Caldari State
2
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 15:11:00 -
[197] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Dakman Frogger wrote:
And on top of this, if this is a scam, then where are the requests for money or any sort of capital? Correct me if I am wrong, but a scam requires some sort of physical entity to be parted from the victim's possession and into the scammer's possession. I have not seen any sort of shenanigans yet. All I have seen is them asking for details on the scam, how much was lost, etc. etc., nothing that is of real value. True, it could be a scam later down the line, but with a little vigilance, you'll be fine. And if this is for tears, then there are better ways to get that. Hell, KFC uses tears on their chickens to make them taste better (trufax), so tears are easy to come by.
No, I wouldn't expect anything like that. If Goons are good at one thing, it's long drawn out and patient scams. It doesn't even need to be for assets - they could be harvesting stories which can be used later for all I know. I just know one thing: Goons simply are not honest people. None of them are and for them to just suddenly do a full 360 and become respectful is downright against their entire mentality as reddit kids who'll do anything for tears.
I don't know any of yall.....yet....an dI am not the smartest person in the world, maybe the third or fourth smartest, but not the smartest. Anyway, wouldn't "suddenly doing a full 360" mean they didn't change at all?
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Kristinn FJ
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 16:10:00 -
[198] - Quote
Enochx Kaine wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Dakman Frogger wrote:
And on top of this, if this is a scam, then where are the requests for money or any sort of capital? Correct me if I am wrong, but a scam requires some sort of physical entity to be parted from the victim's possession and into the scammer's possession. I have not seen any sort of shenanigans yet. All I have seen is them asking for details on the scam, how much was lost, etc. etc., nothing that is of real value. True, it could be a scam later down the line, but with a little vigilance, you'll be fine. And if this is for tears, then there are better ways to get that. Hell, KFC uses tears on their chickens to make them taste better (trufax), so tears are easy to come by.
No, I wouldn't expect anything like that. If Goons are good at one thing, it's long drawn out and patient scams. It doesn't even need to be for assets - they could be harvesting stories which can be used later for all I know. I just know one thing: Goons simply are not honest people. None of them are and for them to just suddenly do a full 360 and become respectful is downright against their entire mentality as reddit kids who'll do anything for tears. I don't know any of yall.....yet....an dI am not the smartest person in the world, maybe the third or fourth smartest, but not the smartest. Anyway, wouldn't "suddenly doing a full 360" mean they didn't change at all?
He's implying that we're already very admirable people. Which we are, of course. |

Solderan
Many Reckless Crews Many Reckless Corps
8
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 18:48:00 -
[199] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Sevarend Mortalis wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote: Goons don't spend personal time doing anything but drinking and grieving.
I have not been sober for a single day since VileRat died, you're correct on that account. Why must you persecute us for our grief, though?  Oh well. Sorry but Sean was a Goon spy and thus I don't really care. Sucks he died but he did. **** happens. I'd have given a **** had he not been a goon... but he was - goons are subhuman in my opinion - in and out of game. Thats a pretty harsh and terrible judgement to make about someone over something as petty as a video game. I did not know vile rat but I wont pass judgement on the man because of his video game associations and actions. Especially in a game like EVE. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3240
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 21:31:00 -
[200] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Sevarend Mortalis wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote: Goons don't spend personal time doing anything but drinking and grieving.
I have not been sober for a single day since VileRat died, you're correct on that account. Why must you persecute us for our grief, though?  Oh well. Sorry but Sean was a Goon spy and thus I don't really care. Sucks he died but he did. **** happens. I'd have given a **** had he not been a goon... but he was - goons are subhuman in my opinion - in and out of game.
While trying to tell everyone how terrible we are (we aren't), you've just shown literally everyone that reads this forum what a terrible, bitter person you are. You should probably seek professional mental help & not play games.
The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |

Solderan
Many Reckless Crews Many Reckless Corps
10
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 21:45:00 -
[201] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Sevarend Mortalis wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote: Goons don't spend personal time doing anything but drinking and grieving.
I have not been sober for a single day since VileRat died, you're correct on that account. Why must you persecute us for our grief, though?  Oh well. Sorry but Sean was a Goon spy and thus I don't really care. Sucks he died but he did. **** happens. I'd have given a **** had he not been a goon... but he was - goons are subhuman in my opinion - in and out of game. While trying to tell everyone how terrible we are (we aren't), you've just shown literally everyone that reads this forum what a terrible, bitter person you are. You should probably seek professional mental help & not play games. I'm not even affiliated with Goonswarm in anyway. I never knew VileRat and I'M offended by such a callous and thoughtless remark. If hes so bitter he is saying things like that about someone he never knew he needs to step away from the keyboard for a bit and re align his priorities. I'm not Goonswarms biggest fan but Im not going to pass judgement on someone whos passed so heartlessly.
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
773
|
Posted - 2013.06.20 22:14:00 -
[202] - Quote
I did not know Vile Rat, but I know plenty of people that did. The nasty comment by the player regarding him just sickens me. I ask that you apologize not to me, but to the community. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
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ISD Cyberdyne
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1308

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Posted - 2013.06.21 01:44:00 -
[203] - Quote
Quote:2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
Quote:4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
Quote:8. Posting of personal information is prohibited.
The posting of personal information including but not limited to contact numbers, email addresses, account names and passwords, home addresses and real life names is strictly prohibited. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy, and will not tolerate the divulging of real life personal details.
Offensive and extremely disrespectful comments regarding a capsuleer, including the mention of personal information, have been removed. Any further violation regarding this issue will be escalated. Do not violate the forum rules. ISD Cyberdyne Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Powers Sa
660
|
Posted - 2013.06.21 02:02:00 -
[204] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Dakman Frogger wrote:
And on top of this, if this is a scam, then where are the requests for money or any sort of capital? Correct me if I am wrong, but a scam requires some sort of physical entity to be parted from the victim's possession and into the scammer's possession. I have not seen any sort of shenanigans yet. All I have seen is them asking for details on the scam, how much was lost, etc. etc., nothing that is of real value. True, it could be a scam later down the line, but with a little vigilance, you'll be fine. And if this is for tears, then there are better ways to get that. Hell, KFC uses tears on their chickens to make them taste better (trufax), so tears are easy to come by.
No, I wouldn't expect anything like that. If Goons are good at one thing, it's long drawn out and patient scams. It doesn't even need to be for assets - they could be harvesting stories which can be used later for all I know. I just know one thing: Goons simply are not honest people. None of them are and for them to just suddenly do a full 360 and become respectful is downright against their entire mentality as reddit kids who'll do anything for tears. As a diplomat, it's my job to be honest. I can honestly tell you that you are a bad person for using an NPC alt. Vote Nullsec for CSM8 Mynnna || Kesper North || Kaleb Rysode || Malc00nis || Artctura || Unforgiven Storm |

Qiwi'Lisolet
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
4
|
Posted - 2013.06.22 11:46:00 -
[205] - Quote
ISD Cyberdyne wrote:Quote:2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others. Quote:4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated. Quote:8. Posting of personal information is prohibited.
The posting of personal information including but not limited to contact numbers, email addresses, account names and passwords, home addresses and real life names is strictly prohibited. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy, and will not tolerate the divulging of real life personal details. Offensive and extremely disrespectful comments regarding a capsuleer, including the mention of personal information, have been removed. Any further violation regarding this issue will be escalated. Do not violate the forum rules.
I violated at MOST one of those rules and just barely by using a first name which can be found within half a second using a simple google search. It sounds more like you just don't like people who say that a person is dishonorable and dishonest in a game and out. You have to have that little sociopathic streak to play the game like the goons do. I couldn't care less whether or not you like me or view my perspective on goons as valid or not. That's entirely meaningless to me given my experience with goons.
Oh and this isn't an NPC alt. Sorry to burst your bubble. Feel free to pledge all bounties right onto this toon; I'm sure they'll be collected eventually.
Point is: The dude died. Had he not been a total douchebag to the general player base and shown signs of being entirely dishonest I'd probably care that he had passed more than I do. But he was in fact a very dishonest person in game, a very malicious person in game and was part of the goons which are very well known for being dishonorable inside and out of eve and among several other gaming communities. (not to mention reddit lol) - I'll give them sympathy when they stop being nothing but douchebags that live on the suffering of others.
Now feel free to go ahead and delete this too, ISD. I know you will just to try and hide an opinion that you don't like. It's pretty common of GMs and GM Aides that condone extremely bad behavior in games then ***** and moan when that behavior is pointed out. Cheers! :D |

Qiwi'Lisolet
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.06.22 11:49:00 -
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oh and for the record: "Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated."
That is actually something CCP condones quite readily by promoting behavior like that shown by goonswarm. The ENTIRE concept of "tear collection" is literally making the gameplay of others as bad as possible for your own enjoyment and then pushing it, insulting their ability to play the game based on their losses for further "tear collection".
So actually CCP LOVES that kind of behavior and tells you to what... HTFU? Just saying. Hypocrites are pretty easy to spot, especially when they make the rules then break them quite often. |

Marianne Pollard
University of Caille Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.06.22 13:20:00 -
[207] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:
Saline.
To be fair, your tears are some of the saltiest I've tasted for a long time.
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3251
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Posted - 2013.06.22 15:59:00 -
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You are a disgusting little person. You have shown yourself to be far worse than those you claim to hate for the very same reasons. The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
792
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Posted - 2013.06.22 16:00:00 -
[209] - Quote
Personally, I don't see why this guy needs any forum rights. All he's doing is trolling the whole community in a disgusting way and making ISD work harder than they need to. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Sissy Sockpuppet
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.06.22 17:51:00 -
[210] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:It sounds more like you just don't like people who say that a person is dishonorable and dishonest in a game and out. You have to have that little sociopathic streak to play the game like the goons do.
I'm pretty sure slagging off someone who's not around any more to defend themselves, who also happens to be someone you've never met and have absolutely no idea what kind of person he was, is a pretty bad idea all round.
Dude, open the curtains, go downstairs and open the door. You'll find there's no large screen displaying bounties there, and no monastic chanting either. I seriously think you're having an 'episode' and need to back away from the PC to reaffirm your commitment to reality, because right now you're just being a ****. |

Qiwi'Lisolet
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:45:00 -
[211] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:You are a disgusting little person. You have shown yourself to be far worse than those you claim to hate for the very same reasons.
Says a goon. If I've pissed off or disgusted a goon then I've done by job. Goons quite literally are the ***** of eve and deserve no respect. |

Qiwi'Lisolet
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:50:00 -
[212] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:Personally, I don't see why this guy needs any forum rights. All he's doing is trolling the whole community
You mean sort of like what goons do constantly? Hmmm... sounds like you've got an appeal to emotion fallacy working for you. |

BORRIS DEMONTFORD
THE OFFENDERS
14
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Posted - 2013.06.22 22:44:00 -
[213] - Quote
Sissy Sockpuppet wrote: and no monastic chanting either. I seriously think you're having an 'episode' and need to back away from the PC to reaffirm your commitment to reality, because right now you're just being a ****.
Unless he lives next to a monastery.
Its a long shot but you never know. |

Qiwi'Lisolet
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.06.22 22:55:00 -
[214] - Quote
Sissy Sockpuppet wrote:
Dude, open the curtains, go downstairs and open the door. You'll find there's no large screen displaying bounties there, and no monastic chanting either.
I think he might have just called me Amarr. Gah... That's worse than being called a Goon... or an Islamic Terrorist. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
803
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Posted - 2013.06.23 08:21:00 -
[215] - Quote
Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Sissy Sockpuppet wrote:
Dude, open the curtains, go downstairs and open the door. You'll find there's no large screen displaying bounties there, and no monastic chanting either.
I think he might have just called me Amarr. Gah... That's worse than being called a Goon... or an Islamic Terrorist.
After further reflection, I think you would make a fine Goon. I know just the recruiter who can expediently process you app. Of course, it will have to be on an alt unrelated to your account here, and they will need a small deposit to ensure you don't cause trouble. I think you will like it, trust me. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Qiwi'Lisolet
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.06.23 08:49:00 -
[216] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:Qiwi'Lisolet wrote:Sissy Sockpuppet wrote:
Dude, open the curtains, go downstairs and open the door. You'll find there's no large screen displaying bounties there, and no monastic chanting either.
I think he might have just called me Amarr. Gah... That's worse than being called a Goon... or an Islamic Terrorist. After further reflection, I think you would make a fine Goon. I know just the recruiter who can expediently process you app. Of course, it will have to be on an alt unrelated to your account here, and they will need a small deposit to ensure you don't cause trouble. I think you will like it, trust me.
Nah. They're worse scammers than you. That's tough to do too! |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
530

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Posted - 2013.06.23 22:19:00 -
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Quote:3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
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Racism, gender stereotyping and hate speech are not permitted on the EVE Online Forums. Derogatory posting that includes race, religion or sexual preference based personal attacks and trolling can result in immediate suspension of forum posting privileges.
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The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a petition under the Community & Forums Category.
22. Post constructively.
Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.
As this thread has remained out of control despite previous moderator actions, it is now locked. ISD LackOfFaith Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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