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Zoe Alarhun
Drunken Space Irish
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Posted - 2011.10.14 06:45:00 -
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David Grogan wrote:Zoe Alarhun wrote:Gallente ships actually arn't to bad at PVP at all. I've been flying their ships and I've found the following to work well:
Cruisers:
Vexor - Rack of guns or neuts combined with bonused drones makes for a versatile ship.
Thorax - 1 trick poney, fly up and shoot you in the face. If you get used to the do or die style of flying in this ship it does STUPID amounts of dps for a T1 cruiser. . the big problem with the thorax is since the nano nerf (scrams shutting off mwd) it made the mwd bonus on the thorax useless. The same flaw applies to both the t2 variants, phobos and deimos A possible fix would be to replace the mwd bonus with an afterbuner bonus and increase the base speed of the thorax + t2 variants by 20% Zoe Alarhun wrote:
Battlecruisers:
Myrmidon is awesome especially with 2 or even 3 reps.
Brutix is fantastic for ganking things and bringing heavy damage in gangs.
the myrmidon is fine for the most part but being an active tanked ship could use a wee bit more capacitor the brutix suffers the same problems as the thorax.... its too slow n heavy and with nano nerf the mwd is useless most of the time A possible fix for the brutix would be to reduce it's mass slightly so afterburners would have more use on itZoe Alarhun wrote:
Battleships:
Dominix - Neut fit with a swarm of drones, remore repair or pure gank. Very versatile.
dominix could use a tiny bit more powergrid to make it better for fitting the megathron and hyperion again suffer the same issues with the nano nerf (scrams killing mwd) also the hyperion needs better tracking and bigger capacitor and the megathron needs more powergrid and more capacitor.... either that or hybrids need to use less capacitor.
The Thorax MWD bonus could be better, but using a meta MWD (YS-8 ? YT -8 ?, I can never remember the name) you actually get a ton of cap back when using a MWD which is pretty sweet.
Myrm doesn't need more cap - fit 2x Cap boosters and your cap issues are solved. Either you will die or they will die but either way it's unlikely you will use all your cap boosters before your target is gone.
Brutix - shield tank it and pure damage. Again - do or die you will kill them or die gloriously.
Dominix is a Tier 1 ship and therefor has lower grid/cpu like it's counterparts. Taking that into account the hybrid buff might lower hybrid fitting requirements which could alleviate this problem.
I can't comment on the other BS as I havn't used them.
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Rowena Lafayette
The Lafayette Family
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Posted - 2011.10.14 08:05:00 -
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BLACK-STAR wrote:
I never understood this philosophy. gallente are definitely not french since the french surrendered/lost majority all wars. american is not an ethnicity
The French won, among others, the American Revolution. Americans like to blabber about "manifest destiny" and forget about that. A bit like they like to think that WW1 started in 1917 and WW2 in 1942, or that the Chinese stopped for two days at the Imjin River because they were scared of the Marines retreating in a badass way.
And as an aside, American is not an ethnicity but it is beginning to look like a warning label for ignorance
The Gallente are French - culturally and politically (what language the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was originally written in? Hint, hint, like the Bible, it wasn't English); and their names are French-sounding for the most part
The Caldari, on the other hand, are Japanese - corporate state, the zaibatsu wielding political power not only de facto but de jure. If you want a Western analogy, more than today's Americans they look like Italy's fascists would have liked to be - again the accent is on the corporate nature of the State and the absolute subordination of the individuals to it |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
934
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Posted - 2011.10.14 08:14:00 -
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killing exhumers |
Shalia Ripper
The Elevens
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Posted - 2011.10.14 08:17:00 -
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The Gallente are for ****. I fully expect their racial CQ to reflect this basic truth.
fuzzy carpet, handcuffs on the rotating bed, heartshaped or champagne glass shaped jacuzzi, and so on. |
Jill Antaris
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.14 08:49:00 -
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GatoFuego wrote:Besides Drones what are they known for? in general?
For being the "close range race that sucks at close range" running gag, during the last 3 years?
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Orion GUardian
47
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Posted - 2011.10.14 09:24:00 -
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BLACK-STAR wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:BLACK-STAR wrote:lol Thorn is mad about fantasy stereotyping.
gallente: hybrids/blasters, close combat. best drones, good carriers. They're not the best newbie class to start following the standings, pve. They're also not french. gallente are, in fact, french. the closest thing to americans in eve are the caldari. I never understood this philosophy. gallente are definitely not french since the french surrendered/lost majority all wars. american is not an ethnicity, the only relation to Caldari is their technological warfare. I could also say, Gallente are americans due to their obsessive drone tech use in RL. caldari look like the french. edit: also, who cares
I care :P And Gallente are more like French (because of their ****** attitude) and Americans (Because of their democrytic system)
Caldari are presumably a mix of German and Russian stereotyping. Perhaps a little Japanese as someone said, but the Japanese aren't as militaristic as the Caladri are portrait
Anyway: Gallente Ships are not the slowest btw, Caldari are, but because they armor tank they become solwest. And as tehy lack serious Med-Slots to Shield Tank that does not work either. Get Blasters a little more Tracking, less Cap use. Get Railguns the ability to deal most DPS at 80km+ [because they are outdmged by SHORT RANGE LASERS below that anyway....which isn't as bad anyway. BUT we dont need 350km Range on a Ship if Targeting Maximum is 249!!] and reduce Cap Usage as well.
Perhaps give Gallente more Agility (not speed) perhaps Bonusses to Armor tank use?
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shellree
Dominus Machinarum
Twilight Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.14 12:11:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:You know, this is pathetic.
The Op posts a decent question and the ******* forum trolls are here instantly, with nothing but **** to offer. You know who you are. If you do not have something constructive or informative to offer to what is a decent question, GTFO.
Really, this forum needs the Mods to gouge-out the trolls who hijack threads by posting utter bullshit.
this is 90% of posts tbh. i am sick of it and really think people need to grow up. for such a ontelligent game and a group of players that for the most part are miles above other gamers. the forums are the worst i have ever seen. i really think people need to leave that in game bs at the door and atleast try to answer a question without the typical look at me im inportant **** they usually post. just my thought though i could be wrong. |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
268
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Posted - 2011.10.14 12:16:00 -
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GatoFuego wrote:Besides Drones what are they known for? in general?
Pleasure hubs and beautiful hoo... women.
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1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2011.10.14 12:28:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:You know, this is pathetic.
The Op posts a decent question and the ******* forum trolls are here instantly, with nothing but **** to offer. You know who you are. If you do not have something constructive or informative to offer to what is a decent question, GTFO.
Really, this forum needs the Mods to gouge-out the trolls who hijack threads by posting utter bullshit.
and what did you contribute to this thread?
5 Days In A Week... 4 Seasons In A Year... 3 Colors In A Stoplight... 2 Hemispheres On The Earth... ONLY 1-UP MUSHROOM!!!-áIf You Like My Sig, Like Me! |
Ilkahn
United Aerospace Co-op
3
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Posted - 2011.10.14 20:32:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:afterburners on a thorax / brutix = FAIL. the ship uses blasters. you don't keep your MWD running once youre in scram range, you point, web, and turn them into debris. a MWD lets you actually catch your target and ruin it. an afterburner? utterly useless for the role the ship fills, as you will *never* catch a MWDing ship of any class, while they pummel you to dust with their longer-range weapons. and pretty much every single pvp ship is going to have a MWD fit unless its some sort of highsec "pvp" fit.
You can't use scrams anymore. Since everyone is mounting 100MN afterburners on all the T2 and T1 BC and Cruiser hulls a scram is useless. One more thing that is a pain in the rear for slower gallente pilots.
By the way CCP, since the game is a replication of ship warfare since when do you ever see naval cruisers running around with motor parts that fit aircraft carriers? What we have is akin to diesel fired submarines fitting massive nuclear power plants for added steam. Why are battleship class parts capable of fitting into something that should have considerably less physical space in the ship. How about we keep it to medium pieces fit medium ships etc. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.14 20:40:00 -
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Ilkahn wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:afterburners on a thorax / brutix = FAIL. the ship uses blasters. you don't keep your MWD running once youre in scram range, you point, web, and turn them into debris. a MWD lets you actually catch your target and ruin it. an afterburner? utterly useless for the role the ship fills, as you will *never* catch a MWDing ship of any class, while they pummel you to dust with their longer-range weapons. and pretty much every single pvp ship is going to have a MWD fit unless its some sort of highsec "pvp" fit. You can't use scrams anymore. Since everyone is mounting 100MN afterburners on all the T2 and T1 BC and Cruiser hulls a scram is useless. One more thing that is a pain in the rear for slower gallente pilots. By the way CCP, since the game is a replication of ship warfare since when do you ever see naval cruisers running around with motor parts that fit aircraft carriers? What we have is akin to diesel fired submarines fitting massive nuclear power plants for added steam. Why are battleship class parts capable of fitting into something that should have considerably less physical space in the ship. How about we keep it to medium pieces fit medium ships etc.
if your opponent is using a 100MN AB, then it is absurdly easy to screw him over because of the abysmal acceleration that results in. Just fly manually and there really is not much he can do to stop you from running away or forcing him up close due to your relative agility.
my non-gank thorax has a MWD and a 1600mm plate, with a scram and web, and it works splendidly. |
Ilkahn
United Aerospace Co-op
3
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Posted - 2011.10.14 20:56:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Ilkahn wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:afterburners on a thorax / brutix = FAIL. the ship uses blasters. you don't keep your MWD running once youre in scram range, you point, web, and turn them into debris. a MWD lets you actually catch your target and ruin it. an afterburner? utterly useless for the role the ship fills, as you will *never* catch a MWDing ship of any class, while they pummel you to dust with their longer-range weapons. and pretty much every single pvp ship is going to have a MWD fit unless its some sort of highsec "pvp" fit. You can't use scrams anymore. Since everyone is mounting 100MN afterburners on all the T2 and T1 BC and Cruiser hulls a scram is useless. One more thing that is a pain in the rear for slower gallente pilots. By the way CCP, since the game is a replication of ship warfare since when do you ever see naval cruisers running around with motor parts that fit aircraft carriers? What we have is akin to diesel fired submarines fitting massive nuclear power plants for added steam. Why are battleship class parts capable of fitting into something that should have considerably less physical space in the ship. How about we keep it to medium pieces fit medium ships etc. if your opponent is using a 100MN AB, then it is absurdly easy to screw him over because of the abysmal acceleration that results in. Just fly manually and there really is not much he can do to stop you from running away or forcing him up close due to your relative agility. my non-gank thorax has a MWD and a 1600mm plate, with a scram and web, and it works splendidly.
couple it with two nanos and a shield tank. Hurricane's are tough to catch like that. |
draconothese
Independant Celestial Enterprises
Pink Fluffy Pussycats
3
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Posted - 2011.10.22 22:24:00 -
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heres what there known for high dps that they cant even apply because of rang to target and they cant track when they are in range atualy nowdays its not even that high of dps pretty much right now there pure crap and im stuck with them |
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