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GatoFuego
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:14:00 -
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Besides Drones what are they known for? in general?
also what are some really great pvp ships?
(really wanting to know this answer cause i wanna make this alt a gallente pvper not sure if there even good at it and if they are what ships?)
pve?
please explain just curious they seem really interesting =]\
PS. looking for there drone ships mostly info about them |
Solhild
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:18:00 -
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good cheese and expensive wine  |
GatoFuego
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:21:00 -
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Solhild wrote:good cheese and expensive wine
O.o |
GatoFuego
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:22:00 -
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Solhild wrote:good cheese and expensive wine
double post :( |
Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:22:00 -
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GatoFuego wrote:Besides Drones what are they known for? in general?
also what are some really great pvp ships?
Try this thread for starters. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:23:00 -
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Being democratic badasses.
What God Wants, God Gets, God Help Us All |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:24:00 -
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me. also, a complete inability to design ships capable of complementing the weapon systems they were intended to use. |
Thorn Galen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:27:00 -
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Hi GatoFuego,
Unfortunately at this point in time there are some serious problems with Gallente - especially the battleships and battlecruisers. Problem is they all lack proper capacitor and energy grid, so even with your Energy Management, Capacitor skills etc at level 5 and beyondf, it's difficult to get a decent fit without draining cap or running short of power. Sure, there are ways around this with modules, but then you're just using-up slots which could be used for other purposes.
A decent battlecruiser is the Myrmidon. It offers lots of dronebay as well as pretty decent armor tanking.
The Megathron BS was once a great ship, it still is in a way, but it is seriously nerfed as per my description in the first paragraph.
You shouldn't have a big problem with any of the Gallente ships for PvE. A good set of skills and training will let you take a Myrmidon through level 4's without too much hassle, just as an example.
For PvP though, that is where you would have to determine what you want to fly (and can afford to lose, as always). As far as I am aware, the best PvP ships at this point in time are the Rifter and the Drake, neither of which are Gallente.
I recently bought and fit a Navy Scorpion (Caldari) and with some decent shield-tanking skills and missile skills, it outperforms a similar-fit Megathron BS. The shield tank holds up so much longer and way more effective, whereas on the Megathron it's a battle getting two armor reppers going, together with some decent passive (or active) armor resist hardeners.
Good news is that hopefully, very soon, CCP will fix some of the more pressing issues such as Hybrids, specifically Railguns. None of the gallente ships are truly able to run lasers. Gallente are good for Rails and Blasters, both of which have their own unique problems.
One final problem with gallente ships, specifically the bigger ones, is their speed. They are real slugs when compared to other races ships.
I still fly them for missions, but for PvP it would have to be a decision based on whether its solo or gang or fleet PvP. I don't believe there's an all-round PvP ship, but like I said, the ones I do know of are not Gallente.
I'm sure the more experienced players can offer more information than I have. Otherwise mail me if you would like more information.
Cheers.
The door is not real. |
Thorn Galen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:30:00 -
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You know, this is pathetic.
The Op posts a decent question and the ******* forum trolls are here instantly, with nothing but **** to offer. You know who you are. If you do not have something constructive or informative to offer to what is a decent question, GTFO.
Really, this forum needs the Mods to gouge-out the trolls who hijack threads by posting utter bullshit.
The door is not real. |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:32:00 -
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i would say the nyx that crashed into a caldari station
gallente carriers are considered among the best.
the dominix is considered a mini-carrier because it can hold lots of drones.
dominix also looks like a shoe. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:36:00 -
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GatoFuego wrote:also what are some really great pvp ships?
The Ishkur is a fantastic frigate.
What God Wants, God Gets, God Help Us All |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:38:00 -
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GAllente are really known for their drones.
The ishtar has a huge drone bay, is a hac, and can kill most vessels dead. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:41:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:You know, this is pathetic.
The Op posts a decent question and the ******* forum trolls are here instantly, with nothing but **** to offer. You know who you are. If you do not have something constructive or informative to offer to what is a decent question, GTFO.
Really, this forum needs the Mods to gouge-out the trolls who hijack threads by posting utter bullshit.
nooooooope.
Akirei Scytale wrote:also, a complete inability to design ships capable of complementing the weapon systems they were intended to use.
that one line had more truth to it than your entire wall of ill-informed text.
you want to know what the true problem with gallente is? it isn't hybrids, it isn't ******* CPU. it is the fact that they are the *only* race in which the ships do *not* compliment the strategy or weapon systems intended.
Amarr are flying bricks, they hit like trucks and take hits like brick walls. Lasers have fantastic tracking and range to compliment their immobility.
Minmatar are extremely fast and versatile, the kings of range dictation. Their ships tend to favor shield tanks so as not to cripple mobility (with obvious exceptions), and their weapon systems tend to have massive falloff ranges, meaning they can fight at pretty much any range they please, and adapt to their enemy, changing a losing fight to an easy win, with a mere orbit and ammo change.
Caldari just dont care and shoot missiles erryday.
Gallente? Gallente are based around the shortest range weapon system in EVE, and armor tank in already slow ships. Let that sink in for a second. Their primary weapon system, which requires you to be pretty much on top of your enemy, requires that you are the fast, agile ship dictating range so that you can actually land your hits. Except Gallente armor tank. Which throws speed and agility completely out the window. It is fundamentally flawed, just as moronic as a more traditional MMO building a melee class and giving it no snares or range closing abilities. |
BLACK-STAR
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Posted - 2011.10.13 06:04:00 -
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lol Thorn is mad about fantasy stereotyping.
gallente: hybrids/blasters, close combat. best drones, good carriers. They're not the best newbie class to start following the standings, pve. They're also not french.
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GatoFuego
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.13 06:05:00 -
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Well what i wanted to do is make a pvp alt of a different race and have my main who isnt too old either to be a logi then countiue on with his pvp
so he can support logi in incurious for good isk a hour as this toon get trained if you get what im saying?
just trying to find a good race that isnt too SP hungry and that can get into some good pvp ships |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.13 06:10:00 -
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BLACK-STAR wrote:lol Thorn is mad about fantasy stereotyping.
gallente: hybrids/blasters, close combat. best drones, good carriers. They're not the best newbie class to start following the standings, pve. They're also not french.
gallente are, in fact, french.
the closest thing to americans in eve are the caldari. |
Fix Lag
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Posted - 2011.10.13 06:14:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Being democratic badasses.
Actually they're just democratic asses |
BLACK-STAR
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Posted - 2011.10.13 06:23:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:BLACK-STAR wrote:lol Thorn is mad about fantasy stereotyping.
gallente: hybrids/blasters, close combat. best drones, good carriers. They're not the best newbie class to start following the standings, pve. They're also not french. gallente are, in fact, french. the closest thing to americans in eve are the caldari.
I never understood this philosophy. gallente are definitely not french since they've surrendered/lost majority all wars. american is not an ethnicity, the only relation is their technological warfare. I could also say, Gallente are americans due to their obsessive drone tech use in RL.
caldari are the french.
[img]http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/star.png[/img] |
Zoe Alarhun
Drunken Space Irish
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Posted - 2011.10.13 06:38:00 -
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Gallente ships actually arn't to bad at PVP at all. I've been flying their ships and I've found the following to work well:
Frigate:
Tristan - lots of training compared to other races (missiles/hybrids/drones for weapons) - but bad ass.
Incursus - Rediculous damage output for something so cheap, flimsy tank - most people will asplode quickly though.
Assault Ships:
Ishkur - Frigate with a ton of drones, fantastic solo and fleet ship.
Enyo - under estimated but excellent dps with blasters + cheap implants and has good tracking.
Interceptor:
Taranis - excellent combat intercepor and good solo ship.
Ares - Good fleet tackler, not fantastic solo ( I may be mistaken though)
Cruisers:
Vexor - Rack of guns or neuts combined with bonused drones makes for a versatile ship.
Thorax - 1 trick poney, fly up and shoot you in the face. If you get used to the do or die style of flying in this ship it does STUPID amounts of dps for a T1 cruiser.
Heavy assault ships:
Ishtar - great pvp and pve drone boat. Sentries, heavies etc give you alot of versatility. Excellent kinetic resists for ratting.
Battlecruisers:
Myrmidon is awesome especially with 2 or even 3 reps.
Brutix is fantastic for ganking things and bringing heavy damage in gangs.
Battleships:
Dominix - Neut fit with a swarm of drones, remore repair or pure gank. Very versatile. |
Enki Nibiru
0
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Posted - 2011.10.13 06:43:00 -
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They have the worst Interdictor.
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xmayzex
SP4RTANS
V.I.R.A.L.
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Posted - 2011.10.13 07:00:00 -
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From my experiences gallente are known for drone based ships and close range blaster boats. Or in the RP aspect .. known for being the rich snobs of eve. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.13 07:14:00 -
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BLACK-STAR wrote:
I never understood this philosophy. gallente are definitely not french since the french surrendered/lost majority all wars. american is not an ethnicity, the only relation to Caldari is their technological warfare. I could also say, Gallente are americans due to their obsessive drone tech use in RL.
caldari look like the french.
edit: also, who cares
#1 - the french actually have a pretty badass military history, if you look at its entirety. they most certainly are not prone to surrender, so much as global conquest schemes that nearly worked.
#2 - the reason the caldari are very similar to americans is that they are ruled by corporations, embody capitalism in its purest form, and are extremely warlike. AMERIKUH to a T.
Zoe Alarhun wrote:Gallente ships actually arn't to bad at PVP at all. I've been flying their ships and I've found the following to work well:
Tristan - a slow frig with a terrible weapon layout
Incursus - a worse rifter
Assault Ships:
Ishkur - an evil little bugger, quite uncharacteristic of gallente frigates
Enyo - a head vs wall "mad deeps" boat that will get you killed
Interceptor:
Taranis - a paper tiger that will ruin poorly flown ships and get ruined by well flown ships
Ares - a decent example of a completely outdated ship class, completely replaced by superior tackle measures
Cruisers:
Vexor - wat
Thorax - the suicide boat. very good at what it does, very good source of insurance money.
Heavy assault ships:
Ishtar - pve boat. doesn't even remotely compare to the kings of pvp HACs - the zealot and the vagabond
Battlecruisers:
Myrmidon - very versatile, pve focused
Brutix - suicide boat. fatter thorax.
Battleships:
Dominix - this be a pve boat, again. outdated and outclassed in pvp
FTFY |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.10.13 07:31:00 -
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I remember something about their assault frigates not being half bad on occasion. But you'd have to check with people who have flown them.
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mkint
140
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Posted - 2011.10.13 07:34:00 -
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long range points, especially with faction mods and gang links |
mogwai
Sparks of Insanity
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Posted - 2011.10.13 07:41:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:You know, this is pathetic.
Really, this forum needs the Mods to gouge-out the trolls who hijack threads by posting utter bullshit.
well said  /tips hat
@ OP,
Like Thorn says, Gallente do have a few issues at the moment, but dont let that stop you. If you can learn to pvp, and pvp well with broken equipment, you will become a better pvp'er through it.
Tristan - damn good + stupidly cheap tackler
2 x 125mm hybrids
2 x rocket launchers
1 x afterburner or pref mwd if you get the skills quick
1 x sensor booster (insta lock)
1 x 20km warp scram
low slots - couple of nano's and a small armour repper (doesnt really matter tbh, the fits so cheap)
As a starter for pvp, this ship will get you on the killmails pretty much everytime.
As your skills improve, try the Vexor, but move up the chain slowly and you might find Gallente ships 'arent that bad' |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
115
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Posted - 2011.10.13 07:43:00 -
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mogwai wrote:
Tristan - damn good + stupidly cheap tackler
vigil does that better for less. |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.10.13 08:40:00 -
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What's the Oklahoma state tree? The telephone pole. Imagine the Gallente as EVE's telephone poles (or any other static roadside attraction.)
To her it doesn't matter much.-á It's chasms have been leapt, and she leans upon the skepticism of her chosen fate. |
Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
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Posted - 2011.10.13 09:37:00 -
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Domi herds own. |
VaMei
Meafi Corp
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Posted - 2011.10.13 10:10:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:Unfortunately at this point in time there are some serious problems with Gallente - especially the battleships and battlecruisers. Problem is they all lack proper capacitor and energy grid, so even with your Energy Management, Capacitor skills etc at level 5 and beyondf, it's difficult to get a decent fit without draining cap or running short of power. Sure, there are ways around this with modules, but then you're just using-up slots which could be used for other purposes.
Honestly, from the perspective of game design, I don't see this as a problem with Gallente ships. I think the problem is that the other races don't face that problem to the same degree.
Fitting your ship should involve serious choices. Having ships where you can simply pick the best in class for each module and expect it to fit with power/grid/cpu to spare, that's what's broken.
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Tetrix Akuta
Intaki Pure
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Posted - 2011.10.13 10:57:00 -
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Corrupting cultures. |
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