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GatoFuego Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.10.13 05:14:00 - [1] - Quote Besides Drones what are they known for? in general? also what are some really great pvp ships? (really wanting to know this answer cause i wanna make this alt a gallente pvper not sure if there even good at it and if they are what ships?) pve? please explain just curious they seem really interesting =]\ PS. looking for there drone ships mostly info about them
Solhild Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 21	Posted - 2011.10.13 05:18:00 - [2] - Quote good cheese and expensive wine
GatoFuego Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.10.13 05:21:00 - [3] - Quote Solhild wrote: good cheese and expensive wine O.o
GatoFuego Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.10.13 05:22:00 - [4] - Quote Solhild wrote: good cheese and expensive wine double post :(
Jennifer Starling Imperial Navy Forum Patrol 51	Posted - 2011.10.13 05:22:00 - [5] - Quote GatoFuego wrote: Besides Drones what are they known for? in general? also what are some really great pvp ships? Try this thread for starters.
Poetic Stanziel Arrakis Technology 87	Posted - 2011.10.13 05:23:00 - [6] - Quote Being democratic badasses. What God Wants, God Gets, God Help Us All
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 115	Posted - 2011.10.13 05:24:00 - [7] - Quote me. also, a complete inability to design ships capable of complementing the weapon systems they were intended to use.
Thorn Galen The Scope Gallente Federation 66	Posted - 2011.10.13 05:27:00 - [8] - Quote Hi GatoFuego, Unfortunately at this point in time there are some serious problems with Gallente - especially the battleships and battlecruisers. Problem is they all lack proper capacitor and energy grid, so even with your Energy Management, Capacitor skills etc at level 5 and beyondf, it's difficult to get a decent fit without draining cap or running short of power. Sure, there are ways around this with modules, but then you're just using-up slots which could be used for other purposes. A decent battlecruiser is the Myrmidon. It offers lots of dronebay as well as pretty decent armor tanking. The Megathron BS was once a great ship, it still is in a way, but it is seriously nerfed as per my description in the first paragraph. You shouldn't have a big problem with any of the Gallente ships for PvE. A good set of skills and training will let you take a Myrmidon through level 4's without too much hassle, just as an example. For PvP though, that is where you would have to determine what you want to fly (and can afford to lose, as always). As far as I am aware, the best PvP ships at this point in time are the Rifter and the Drake, neither of which are Gallente. I recently bought and fit a Navy Scorpion (Caldari) and with some decent shield-tanking skills and missile skills, it outperforms a similar-fit Megathron BS. The shield tank holds up so much longer and way more effective, whereas on the Megathron it's a battle getting two armor reppers going, together with some decent passive (or active) armor resist hardeners. Good news is that hopefully, very soon, CCP will fix some of the more pressing issues such as Hybrids, specifically Railguns. None of the gallente ships are truly able to run lasers. Gallente are good for Rails and Blasters, both of which have their own unique problems. One final problem with gallente ships, specifically the bigger ones, is their speed. They are real slugs when compared to other races ships. I still fly them for missions, but for PvP it would have to be a decision based on whether its solo or gang or fleet PvP. I don't believe there's an all-round PvP ship, but like I said, the ones I do know of are not Gallente. I'm sure the more experienced players can offer more information than I have. Otherwise mail me if you would like more information. Cheers. The door is not real.
Thorn Galen The Scope Gallente Federation 66	Posted - 2011.10.13 05:30:00 - [9] - Quote You know, this is pathetic. The Op posts a decent question and the ***** forum trolls are here instantly, with nothing but ** to offer. You know who you are. If you do not have something constructive or informative to offer to what is a decent question, GTFO. Really, this forum needs the Mods to gouge-out the trolls who hijack threads by posting utter bullshit. The door is not real.
Herping yourDerp Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 152	Posted - 2011.10.13 05:32:00 - [10] - Quote i would say the nyx that crashed into a caldari station gallente carriers are considered among the best. the dominix is considered a mini-carrier because it can hold lots of drones. dominix also looks like a shoe.
Poetic Stanziel Arrakis Technology 87	Posted - 2011.10.13 05:36:00 - [11] - Quote GatoFuego wrote: also what are some really great pvp ships? The Ishkur is a fantastic frigate. What God Wants, God Gets, God Help Us All
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 181	Posted - 2011.10.13 05:38:00 - [12] - Quote GAllente are really known for their drones. The ishtar has a huge drone bay, is a hac, and can kill most vessels dead.
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 115	Posted - 2011.10.13 05:41:00 - [13] - Quote Thorn Galen wrote: You know, this is pathetic. The Op posts a decent question and the ***** forum trolls are here instantly, with nothing but to offer. You know who you are. If you do not have something constructive or informative to offer to what is a decent question, GTFO. Really, this forum needs the Mods to gouge-out the trolls who hijack threads by posting utter bullshit. nooooooope. Akirei Scytale wrote: also, a complete inability to design ships capable of complementing the weapon systems they were intended to use. that one line had more truth to it than your entire wall of ill-informed text. you want to know what the true problem with gallente is? it isn't hybrids, it isn't ***** CPU. it is the fact that they are the only race in which the ships do not compliment the strategy or weapon systems intended. Amarr are flying bricks, they hit like trucks and take hits like brick walls. Lasers have fantastic tracking and range to compliment their immobility. Minmatar are extremely fast and versatile, the kings of range dictation. Their ships tend to favor shield tanks so as not to cripple mobility (with obvious exceptions), and their weapon systems tend to have massive falloff ranges, meaning they can fight at pretty much any range they please, and adapt to their enemy, changing a losing fight to an easy win, with a mere orbit and ammo change. Caldari just dont care and shoot missiles erryday. Gallente? Gallente are based around the shortest range weapon system in EVE, and armor tank in already slow ships. Let that sink in for a second. Their primary weapon system, which requires you to be pretty much on top of your enemy, requires that you are the fast, agile ship dictating range so that you can actually land your hits. Except Gallente armor tank. Which throws speed and agility completely out the window. It is fundamentally flawed, just as moronic as a more traditional MMO building a melee class and giving it no snares or range closing abilities.
BLACK-STAR 132	Posted - 2011.10.13 06:04:00 - [14] - Quote lol Thorn is mad about fantasy stereotyping. gallente: hybrids/blasters, close combat. best drones, good carriers. They're not the best newbie class to start following the standings, pve. They're also not french. [img]http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/star.png[/img]
GatoFuego Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.10.13 06:05:00 - [15] - Quote Well what i wanted to do is make a pvp alt of a different race and have my main who isnt too old either to be a logi then countiue on with his pvp so he can support logi in incurious for good isk a hour as this toon get trained if you get what im saying? just trying to find a good race that isnt too SP hungry and that can get into some good pvp ships
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 115	Posted - 2011.10.13 06:10:00 - [16] - Quote BLACK-STAR wrote: lol Thorn is mad about fantasy stereotyping. gallente: hybrids/blasters, close combat. best drones, good carriers. They're not the best newbie class to start following the standings, pve. They're also not french. gallente are, in fact, french. the closest thing to americans in eve are the caldari.
Fix Lag 97	Posted - 2011.10.13 06:14:00 - [17] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: Being democratic badasses. Actually they're just democratic asses
BLACK-STAR 132	Posted - 2011.10.13 06:23:00 - [18] - Quote Akirei Scytale wrote: BLACK-STAR wrote: lol Thorn is mad about fantasy stereotyping. gallente: hybrids/blasters, close combat. best drones, good carriers. They're not the best newbie class to start following the standings, pve. They're also not french. gallente are, in fact, french. the closest thing to americans in eve are the caldari. I never understood this philosophy. gallente are definitely not french since they've surrendered/lost majority all wars. american is not an ethnicity, the only relation is their technological warfare. I could also say, Gallente are americans due to their obsessive drone tech use in RL. caldari are the french. [img]http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/star.png[/img]
Zoe Alarhun Drunken Space Irish 27	Posted - 2011.10.13 06:38:00 - [19] - Quote Gallente ships actually arn't to bad at PVP at all. I've been flying their ships and I've found the following to work well: Frigate: Tristan - lots of training compared to other races (missiles/hybrids/drones for weapons) - but bad ass. Incursus - Rediculous damage output for something so cheap, flimsy tank - most people will asplode quickly though. Assault Ships: Ishkur - Frigate with a ton of drones, fantastic solo and fleet ship. Enyo - under estimated but excellent dps with blasters + cheap implants and has good tracking. Interceptor: Taranis - excellent combat intercepor and good solo ship. Ares - Good fleet tackler, not fantastic solo ( I may be mistaken though) Cruisers: Vexor - Rack of guns or neuts combined with bonused drones makes for a versatile ship. Thorax - 1 trick poney, fly up and shoot you in the face. If you get used to the do or die style of flying in this ship it does STUPID amounts of dps for a T1 cruiser. Heavy assault ships: Ishtar - great pvp and pve drone boat. Sentries, heavies etc give you alot of versatility. Excellent kinetic resists for ratting. Battlecruisers: Myrmidon is awesome especially with 2 or even 3 reps. Brutix is fantastic for ganking things and bringing heavy damage in gangs. Battleships: Dominix - Neut fit with a swarm of drones, remore repair or pure gank. Very versatile.
Enki Nibiru 0	Posted - 2011.10.13 06:43:00 - [20] - Quote They have the worst Interdictor.
xmayzex SP4RTANS V.I.R.A.L. 0	Posted - 2011.10.13 07:00:00 - [21] - Quote From my experiences gallente are known for drone based ships and close range blaster boats. Or in the RP aspect .. known for being the rich snobs of eve.
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 115	Posted - 2011.10.13 07:14:00 - [22] - Quote BLACK-STAR wrote: I never understood this philosophy. gallente are definitely not french since the french surrendered/lost majority all wars. american is not an ethnicity, the only relation to Caldari is their technological warfare. I could also say, Gallente are americans due to their obsessive drone tech use in RL. caldari look like the french. edit: also, who cares #1 - the french actually have a pretty badass military history, if you look at its entirety. they most certainly are not prone to surrender, so much as global conquest schemes that nearly worked. #2 - the reason the caldari are very similar to americans is that they are ruled by corporations, embody capitalism in its purest form, and are extremely warlike. AMERIKUH to a T. Zoe Alarhun wrote: Gallente ships actually arn't to bad at PVP at all. I've been flying their ships and I've found the following to work well: Tristan - a slow frig with a terrible weapon layout Incursus - a worse rifter Assault Ships: Ishkur - an evil little bugger, quite uncharacteristic of gallente frigates Enyo - a head vs wall "mad deeps" boat that will get you killed Interceptor: Taranis - a paper tiger that will ruin poorly flown ships and get ruined by well flown ships Ares - a decent example of a completely outdated ship class, completely replaced by superior tackle measures Cruisers: Vexor - wat Thorax - the suicide boat. very good at what it does, very good source of insurance money. Heavy assault ships: Ishtar - pve boat. doesn't even remotely compare to the kings of pvp HACs - the zealot and the vagabond Battlecruisers: Myrmidon - very versatile, pve focused Brutix - suicide boat. fatter thorax. Battleships: Dominix - this be a pve boat, again. outdated and outclassed in pvp FTFY
Ciar Meara Virtus Vindice 148	Posted - 2011.10.13 07:31:00 - [23] - Quote I remember something about their assault frigates not being half bad on occasion. But you'd have to check with people who have flown them. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]
mkint 140	Posted - 2011.10.13 07:34:00 - [24] - Quote long range points, especially with faction mods and gang links
mogwai Sparks of Insanity 1	Posted - 2011.10.13 07:41:00 - [25] - Quote Thorn Galen wrote: You know, this is pathetic. Really, this forum needs the Mods to gouge-out the trolls who hijack threads by posting utter bullshit. well said /tips hat @ OP, Like Thorn says, Gallente do have a few issues at the moment, but dont let that stop you. If you can learn to pvp, and pvp well with broken equipment, you will become a better pvp'er through it. *Tristan* - damn good + stupidly cheap tackler 2 x 125mm hybrids 2 x rocket launchers 1 x afterburner or pref mwd if you get the skills quick 1 x sensor booster (insta lock) 1 x 20km warp scram low slots - couple of nano's and a small armour repper (doesnt really matter tbh, the fits so cheap) As a starter for pvp, this ship will get you on the killmails pretty much everytime. As your skills improve, try the Vexor, but move up the chain slowly and you might find Gallente ships 'arent that bad'
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 115	Posted - 2011.10.13 07:43:00 - [26] - Quote mogwai wrote: *Tristan* - damn good + stupidly cheap tackler vigil does that better for less.
Vyl Vit Cambio Enterprises 62	Posted - 2011.10.13 08:40:00 - [27] - Quote What's the Oklahoma state tree? The telephone pole. Imagine the Gallente as EVE's telephone poles (or any other static roadside attraction.) To her it doesn't matter much.-á It's chasms have been leapt, and she leans upon the skepticism of her chosen fate.
Aloe Cloveris The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple 24	Posted - 2011.10.13 09:37:00 - [28] - Quote Domi herds own.
VaMei Meafi Corp 26	Posted - 2011.10.13 10:10:00 - [29] - Quote Thorn Galen wrote: Unfortunately at this point in time there are some serious problems with Gallente - especially the battleships and battlecruisers. Problem is they all lack proper capacitor and energy grid, so even with your Energy Management, Capacitor skills etc at level 5 and beyondf, it's difficult to get a decent fit without draining cap or running short of power. Sure, there are ways around this with modules, but then you're just using-up slots which could be used for other purposes. Honestly, from the perspective of game design, I don't see this as a problem with Gallente ships. I think the problem is that the other races don't face that problem to the same degree. Fitting your ship should involve serious choices. Having ships where you can simply pick the best in class for each module and expect it to fit with power/grid/cpu to spare, that's what's broken.
Tetrix Akuta Intaki Pure 0	Posted - 2011.10.13 10:57:00 - [30] - Quote Corrupting cultures.
Arakazzi Epsilon Inc STORM. 0	Posted - 2011.10.13 11:06:00 - [31] - Quote Domi, Drones and Quafe.
Karim alRashid Aliastra Gallente Federation 46	Posted - 2011.10.13 11:30:00 - [32] - Quote Pleasure hubs and x-rated holoreels.
Rainus Max Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi 7	Posted - 2011.10.13 11:45:00 - [33] - Quote BLACK-STAR wrote: lol Thorn is mad about fantasy stereotyping. gallente: hybrids/blasters, close combat. best drones, good carriers. They're not the best newbie class to start following the standings, pve. They're also not french. I believe Hybrid/Blaster weaponary is technically Caldari. They are decended from French settlers from Tau Ceti - so they are French. Drones, which I personally love, are brilliant but CCP does seam to have a significant hatred of them and at almost every opportunity they nerf them again in some way.
Akrasjel Lanate Naquatech Conglomerate 110	Posted - 2011.10.13 13:01:00 - [34] - Quote For shooting you in the face from OUR BLASTERS
Karn Dulake Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance 33	Posted - 2011.10.13 13:04:00 - [35] - Quote they are not known as Gaylente for nothing
ITTigerClawIK Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers 19	Posted - 2011.10.13 13:08:00 - [36] - Quote GatoFuego wrote: Besides Drones what are they known for? in general? also what are some really great pvp ships? (really wanting to know this answer cause i wanna make this alt a gallente pvper not sure if there even good at it and if they are what ships?) pve? please explain just curious they seem really interesting =]\ PS. looking for there drone ships mostly info about them strip clubs and belly dancers.... or so iv eheard >_> <_<
Spectre80 The Knights Templar Cascade Imminent 16	Posted - 2011.10.13 13:14:00 - [37] - Quote gallente are known to be ghey
Skippermonkey Tactical Knightmare 94	Posted - 2011.10.13 13:24:00 - [38] - Quote Thorn Galen wrote: You know, this is pathetic. The Op posts a decent question and the ***** forum trolls are here instantly, with nothing but ** to offer. You know who you are. If you do not have something constructive or informative to offer to what is a decent question, GTFO. Really, this forum needs the Mods to gouge-out the trolls who hijack threads by posting utter bullshit. LOL U MAD BRO? (had to be done)
Weaselior BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation 600	Posted - 2011.10.13 13:30:00 - [39] - Quote the gallente are known for their furious hatred of empire miners
Josefius Caldari Elite Force Apocalypse Now. 14	Posted - 2011.10.13 13:34:00 - [40] - Quote Nothing anymore, since all the races have lost their identity with all the new changes imo. Bloodlines are dead, racial characteristics all but homogenized into a single entity for ease sake. I miss my old Avatar. I would gladly go back to that with no body just to have the uniqueness that was destroyed by all this crap. The old me
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 15	Posted - 2011.10.13 13:34:00 - [41] - Quote What are gallente known for? Not being on good enough or the best at everything this game can offer you. Go Minmatar or Amar, this is the only way to go ATM and it's most certainly not going to change even if it seems CCP is willing to do something they won't listen to Gallente players anyway.
Pattern Clarc Aperture Harmonics 153	Posted - 2011.10.13 13:55:00 - [42] - Quote Basically this... Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction
Ilkahn United Aerospace Co-op 2	Posted - 2011.10.13 15:16:00 - [43] - Quote Gallente actually have many great ships. The issue is that as stated by others, you needs skills due to your DPS being coupled with drones. The real issue for gallente is that they are not considered FOTM at the moment so nobody is actively attempting to develop tactics that fit the ship designs as they are at the moment. I do concur that gallente gun ships are not on par with other racial gun ships and something needs done to fix gallente as a whole, however, i enjoy the challenge of being different. I'm heavily trained in rails and gallente so when they do become FOTM one day i'll be one of the guys popping capital ships in one shot for 24 hours till CCP nerfs their initial gallente / railgun update LOL.
Tanya Powers Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 15	Posted - 2011.10.13 15:22:00 - [44] - Quote Ilkahn wrote: Gallente actually have many great ships. The issue is that as stated by others, you needs skills due to your DPS being coupled with drones. The real issue for gallente is that they are not considered FOTM at the moment so nobody is actively attempting to develop tactics that fit the ship designs as they are at the moment. I do concur that gallente gun ships are not on par with other racial gun ships and something needs done to fix gallente as a whole, however, i enjoy the challenge of being different. I'm heavily trained in rails and gallente so when they do become FOTM one day i'll be one of the guys popping capital ships in one shot for 24 hours till CCP nerfs their initial gallente / railgun update LOL. Dreams
Kengutsi Akira 32	Posted - 2011.10.13 15:40:00 - [45] - Quote Thorn Galen wrote: You know, this is pathetic. The Op posts a decent question and the ***** forum trolls are here instantly, with nothing but ** to offer. You know who you are. If you do not have something constructive or informative to offer to what is a decent question, GTFO. Really, this forum needs the Mods to gouge-out the trolls who hijack threads by posting utter bullshit. yeah... theyd have to actually start you know, moderating in more than words.
Cyniac Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance 20	Posted - 2011.10.13 15:49:00 - [46] - Quote When it comes to combat Gallente boil down to basically two things: 1) Versatile drone ships - they are good in most situations but are seldom best in class for any specific situation (this is not necessarily a bad thing though, versatility is an asset) 2) Do-or-die mentality needed to fly blasterboats. When a gallente blaster boat engages in combat there are only two possible outcomes, victory or going down in a ball of fire. As it happens the do-or-die thing is not terribly popular around here, but if you like that kind of thing, and don't mind a very painful learning curve, you might enjoy Gallente.
Kirith Vespira Just Abide 2	Posted - 2011.10.13 15:50:00 - [47] - Quote Gallente are known for really crappy weapons that only noobs and cheap people use. kthxbye
Trainwreck McGee Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 52	Posted - 2011.10.13 15:54:00 - [48] - Quote Thorn Galen wrote: You know, this is pathetic. The Op posts a decent question and the ***** forum trolls are here instantly, with nothing but to offer. You know who you are. If you do not have something constructive or informative to offer to what is a decent question, GTFO. Really, this forum needs the Mods to gouge-out the trolls who hijack threads by posting utter bullshit. you know your post has no content either right? stop QQ about trolls its annoying just ***** ignore them CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool
InVictus Kell Gladiators of Rage White Noise. 17	Posted - 2011.10.13 15:59:00 - [49] - Quote our exotic dancers are by far the bestest. our STD's are the funnest to get. our carriers look the best after ramming into enemy stations. and our ships give everyone else ***** envy. oh and we have drones and blasters, they're kinda cool...if you can peel away from the strippers and quafe.
Kengutsi Akira 33	Posted - 2011.10.13 16:08:00 - [50] - Quote Trainwreck McGee wrote: Thorn Galen wrote: You know, this is pathetic. The Op posts a decent question and the ***** forum trolls are here instantly, with nothing but to offer. You know who you are. If you do not have something constructive or informative to offer to what is a decent question, GTFO. Really, this forum needs the Mods to gouge-out the trolls who hijack threads by posting utter bullshit. you know your post has no content either right? stop QQ about trolls its annoying just ***** ignore them Yeah cause the mods sure arent gonna do anything about it...
Demon Azrakel Defiant.. Narwhals Ate My Duck 35	Posted - 2011.10.13 16:15:00 - [51] - Quote VaMei wrote: Fitting your ship should involve serious choices. Having ships where you can simply pick the best in class for each module and expect it to fit with power/grid/cpu to spare, that's what's broken. cough Rupture Hurricane Maelstrom cough
David Grogan The Motley Crew Reborn 59	Posted - 2011.10.13 20:33:00 - [52] - Quote Zoe Alarhun wrote: Gallente ships actually arn't to bad at PVP at all. I've been flying their ships and I've found the following to work well: Cruisers: Vexor - Rack of guns or neuts combined with bonused drones makes for a versatile ship. Thorax - 1 trick poney, fly up and shoot you in the face. If you get used to the do or die style of flying in this ship it does STUPID amounts of dps for a T1 cruiser. . the big problem with the thorax is since the nano nerf (scrams shutting off mwd) it made the mwd bonus on the thorax useless. The same flaw applies to both the t2 variants, phobos and deimos Zoe Alarhun wrote: Battlecruisers: Myrmidon is awesome especially with 2 or even 3 reps. Brutix is fantastic for ganking things and bringing heavy damage in gangs. the myrmidon is fine for the most part but being an active tanked ship could use a wee bit more capacitor the brutix suffers the same problems as the thorax.... its too slow n heavy and with nano nerf the mwd is useless most of the time Zoe Alarhun wrote: Battleships: Dominix - Neut fit with a swarm of drones, remore repair or pure gank. Very versatile. [/quote] dominix could use a tiny bit more powergrid to make it better for fitting the megathron and hyperion again suffer the same issues with the nano nerf (scrams killing mwd) also the hyperion needs better tracking and bigger capacitor and the megathron needs more powergrid and more capacitor.... either that or hybrids need to use less capacitor.
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 122	Posted - 2011.10.13 20:52:00 - [53] - Quote afterburners on a thorax / brutix = FAIL. the ship uses blasters. you don't keep your MWD running once youre in scram range, you point, web, and turn them into debris. a MWD lets you actually catch your target and ruin it. an afterburner? utterly useless for the role the ship fills, as you will never catch a MWDing ship of any class, while they pummel you to dust with their longer-range weapons. and pretty much every single pvp ship is going to have a MWD fit unless its some sort of highsec "pvp" fit.
Spurty V0LTA VOLTA Corp 35	Posted - 2011.10.13 21:00:00 - [54] - Quote Caldari = first 1/2 mill skill points in missiles gets you running missions for ISK, PVE Gallent = Ultimate PVE races, drones have no ammo Now you are up to about 10mill sp so you jump over to AMARR = laz0rs are ammo less (t1) and you learn the art of tanking and PVP starts here Minmitar = projectiles and millions of support skills needed, terrible tanks, need skills to PVP So, Gallente are to start off anyways, the 2nd race everyony should pick if they didn't pick it as their first race. Once you have all 4, you move to pirate ships which are composite of two races. Why is this a mystery to you ? Why are you stuck on gallente so much? Seriously, they have their place. ---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.
Infinimo GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 90	Posted - 2011.10.13 21:10:00 - [55] - Quote being ****
Sorran Tor The Graduates Morsus Mihi 3	Posted - 2011.10.13 21:46:00 - [56] - Quote BLACK-STAR wrote: I never understood this philosophy. gallente are definitely not french since the french surrendered/lost majority all wars. Bullshit they did. Ignorant yank spotted! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_france I find it hilarious that the French are best remembered by American mouthbreathers for being overrun by Germany in WW2, which, ironically, the United States didn't even want to be a part of, and only got dragged in kicking and screaming because Japan cocked up and attacked them.
Demon Azrakel Defiant.. Narwhals Ate My Duck 37	Posted - 2011.10.13 21:47:00 - [57] - Quote Spurty wrote: Gallent = Ultimate PVE races, drones have no ammo Really? Drones do not an awesome PvE boat make (exception provided to dropping drones and grabbing something to eat and maybe reading a book). Don't want ammo? Use Amarr ships (and out-damage the Dominix / Myrmidon / Ishtar). Want damage selection? Use Minmitar ships or Caldari (and out-damage the drone boats again, the only damage selection Gallente can do). Want to actually run missions quickly? Fly a NM, CNR, Golem, or Macharial. Want into incursion fleets? Fly the Loki, Guardian, Scimitar, Basilisk, Nightmare, Bhaalgorn, Vindicator, or Macharial. Bolded the (good) PvE boats that were Gallente (if only in part). Oh, I see, you meant the Thanatos and Nyx for ratting in null... forgot those two.
Spurty V0LTA VOLTA Corp 35	Posted - 2011.10.13 21:49:00 - [58] - Quote Sov map year 481AD ---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.
Sorran Tor The Graduates Morsus Mihi 3	Posted - 2011.10.13 21:51:00 - [59] - Quote Demon Azrakel wrote: Don't want ammo? Use Amarr ships (and out-damage the Dominix / Myrmidon / Ishtar). ...and be stuck dealing EM damage. Have fun with that outside of Amarr empire. Quote: Want damage selection? Use Minmitar ships or Caldari (and out-damage the drone boats again, the only damage selection Gallente can do). lol Domi with max skills outdamages a Raven with max skills, and Sentries have zero flight time to target. And don't need to reload. Dunno about Minmatar, but lol at the notion that minnie can pick damage types. I'm gussing you dun fly minnie.
Spurty V0LTA VOLTA Corp 35	Posted - 2011.10.13 21:52:00 - [60] - Quote Demon Azrakel wrote: Spurty wrote: Gallent = Ultimate PVE races, drones have no ammo Really? Drones do not an awesome PvE boat make (exception provided to dropping drones and grabbing something to eat and maybe reading a book). Don't want ammo? Use Amarr ships (and out-damage the Dominix / Myrmidon / Ishtar). Want damage selection? Use Minmitar ships or Caldari (and out-damage the drone boats again, the only damage selection Gallente can do). Want to actually run missions quickly? Fly a NM, CNR, Golem, or Macharial. Want into incursion fleets? Fly the Loki, Guardian, Scimitar, Basilisk, Nightmare, Bhaalgorn, Vindicator, or Macharial. Bolded the (good) PvE boats that were Gallente (if only in part). Oh, I see, you meant the Thanatos and Nyx for ratting in null... forgot those two. Ishtar = best ratting ship money can buy. Not the fastest, but zero expenditure after you get your drones. just isk flowing into the wallet. no runs to jita for ammo. now, your point was what? I bolded the funny part. ---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.
Zoe Alarhun Drunken Space Irish 27	Posted - 2011.10.14 06:45:00 - [61] - Quote David Grogan wrote: Zoe Alarhun wrote: Gallente ships actually arn't to bad at PVP at all. I've been flying their ships and I've found the following to work well: Cruisers: Vexor - Rack of guns or neuts combined with bonused drones makes for a versatile ship. Thorax - 1 trick poney, fly up and shoot you in the face. If you get used to the do or die style of flying in this ship it does STUPID amounts of dps for a T1 cruiser. . the big problem with the thorax is since the nano nerf (scrams shutting off mwd) it made the mwd bonus on the thorax useless. The same flaw applies to both the t2 variants, phobos and deimos A possible fix would be to replace the mwd bonus with an afterbuner bonus and increase the base speed of the thorax + t2 variants by 20% Zoe Alarhun wrote: Battlecruisers: Myrmidon is awesome especially with 2 or even 3 reps. Brutix is fantastic for ganking things and bringing heavy damage in gangs. the myrmidon is fine for the most part but being an active tanked ship could use a wee bit more capacitor the brutix suffers the same problems as the thorax.... its too slow n heavy and with nano nerf the mwd is useless most of the time A possible fix for the brutix would be to reduce it's mass slightly so afterburners would have more use on it Zoe Alarhun wrote: Battleships: Dominix - Neut fit with a swarm of drones, remore repair or pure gank. Very versatile. dominix could use a tiny bit more powergrid to make it better for fitting the megathron and hyperion again suffer the same issues with the nano nerf (scrams killing mwd) also the hyperion needs better tracking and bigger capacitor and the megathron needs more powergrid and more capacitor.... either that or hybrids need to use less capacitor. The Thorax MWD bonus could be better, but using a meta MWD (YS-8 ? YT -8 ?, I can never remember the name) you actually get a ton of cap back when using a MWD which is pretty sweet. Myrm doesn't need more cap - fit 2x Cap boosters and your cap issues are solved. Either you will die or they will die but either way it's unlikely you will use all your cap boosters before your target is gone. Brutix - shield tank it and pure damage. Again - do or die you will kill them or die gloriously. Dominix is a Tier 1 ship and therefor has lower grid/cpu like it's counterparts. Taking that into account the hybrid buff might lower hybrid fitting requirements which could alleviate this problem. I can't comment on the other BS as I havn't used them.
Rowena Lafayette The Lafayette Family 0	Posted - 2011.10.14 08:05:00 - [62] - Quote BLACK-STAR wrote: I never understood this philosophy. gallente are definitely not french since the french surrendered/lost majority all wars. american is not an ethnicity The French won, among others, the American Revolution. Americans like to blabber about "manifest destiny" and forget about that. A bit like they like to think that WW1 started in 1917 and WW2 in 1942, or that the Chinese stopped for two days at the Imjin River because they were scared of the Marines retreating in a badass way. And as an aside, American is not an ethnicity but it is beginning to look like a warning label for ignorance The Gallente are French - culturally and politically (what language the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was originally written in? Hint, hint, like the Bible, it wasn't English); and their names are French-sounding for the most part The Caldari, on the other hand, are Japanese - corporate state, the zaibatsu wielding political power not only de facto but de jure. If you want a Western analogy, more than today's Americans they look like Italy's fascists would have liked to be - again the accent is on the corporate nature of the State and the absolute subordination of the individuals to it
The Mittani GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 934	Posted - 2011.10.14 08:14:00 - [63] - Quote killing exhumers
Shalia Ripper The Elevens 1	Posted - 2011.10.14 08:17:00 - [64] - Quote The Gallente are for ****. I fully expect their racial CQ to reflect this basic truth. fuzzy carpet, handcuffs on the rotating bed, heartshaped or champagne glass shaped jacuzzi, and so on.
Jill Antaris Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2011.10.14 08:49:00 - [65] - Quote GatoFuego wrote: Besides Drones what are they known for? in general? For being the "close range race that sucks at close range" running gag, during the last 3 years?
Orion GUardian 47	Posted - 2011.10.14 09:24:00 - [66] - Quote BLACK-STAR wrote: Akirei Scytale wrote: BLACK-STAR wrote: lol Thorn is mad about fantasy stereotyping. gallente: hybrids/blasters, close combat. best drones, good carriers. They're not the best newbie class to start following the standings, pve. They're also not french. gallente are, in fact, french. the closest thing to americans in eve are the caldari. I never understood this philosophy. gallente are definitely not french since the french surrendered/lost majority all wars. american is not an ethnicity, the only relation to Caldari is their technological warfare. I could also say, Gallente are americans due to their obsessive drone tech use in RL. caldari look like the french. edit: also, who cares I care :P And Gallente are more like French (because of their ****** attitude) and Americans (Because of their democrytic system) Caldari are presumably a mix of German and Russian stereotyping. Perhaps a little Japanese as someone said, but the Japanese aren't as militaristic as the Caladri are portrait Anyway: Gallente Ships are not the slowest btw, Caldari are, but because they armor tank they become solwest. And as tehy lack serious Med-Slots to Shield Tank that does not work either. Get Blasters a little more Tracking, less Cap use. Get Railguns the ability to deal most DPS at 80km+ [because they are outdmged by SHORT RANGE LASERS below that anyway....which isn't as bad anyway. BUT we dont need 350km Range on a Ship if Targeting Maximum is 249!!] and reduce Cap Usage as well. Perhaps give Gallente more Agility (not speed) perhaps Bonusses to Armor tank use?
shellree Dominus Machinarum Twilight Federation 0	Posted - 2011.10.14 12:11:00 - [67] - Quote Thorn Galen wrote: You know, this is pathetic. The Op posts a decent question and the ***** forum trolls are here instantly, with nothing but to offer. You know who you are. If you do not have something constructive or informative to offer to what is a decent question, GTFO. Really, this forum needs the Mods to gouge-out the trolls who hijack threads by posting utter bullshit. this is 90% of posts tbh. i am sick of it and really think people need to grow up. for such a ontelligent game and a group of players that for the most part are miles above other gamers. the forums are the worst i have ever seen. i really think people need to leave that in game bs at the door and atleast try to answer a question without the typical look at me im inportant ** they usually post. just my thought though i could be wrong.
Grey Stormshadow Starwreck Industries 268	Posted - 2011.10.14 12:16:00 - [68] - Quote GatoFuego wrote: Besides Drones what are they known for? in general? Pleasure hubs and beautiful hoo... women. Classic forum style - Images and colored text - Custom CQ videos
1-Up Mushroom Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 14	Posted - 2011.10.14 12:28:00 - [69] - Quote Thorn Galen wrote: You know, this is pathetic. The Op posts a decent question and the ***** forum trolls are here instantly, with nothing but ** to offer. You know who you are. If you do not have something constructive or informative to offer to what is a decent question, GTFO. Really, this forum needs the Mods to gouge-out the trolls who hijack threads by posting utter bullshit. and what did you contribute to this thread? 5 Days In A Week... 4 Seasons In A Year... 3 Colors In A Stoplight... 2 Hemispheres On The Earth... ONLY 1-UP MUSHROOM!!!-áIf You Like My Sig, Like Me!
Ilkahn United Aerospace Co-op 3	Posted - 2011.10.14 20:32:00 - [70] - Quote Akirei Scytale wrote: afterburners on a thorax / brutix = FAIL. the ship uses blasters. you don't keep your MWD running once youre in scram range, you point, web, and turn them into debris. a MWD lets you actually catch your target and ruin it. an afterburner? utterly useless for the role the ship fills, as you will never catch a MWDing ship of any class, while they pummel you to dust with their longer-range weapons. and pretty much every single pvp ship is going to have a MWD fit unless its some sort of highsec "pvp" fit. You can't use scrams anymore. Since everyone is mounting 100MN afterburners on all the T2 and T1 BC and Cruiser hulls a scram is useless. One more thing that is a pain in the rear for slower gallente pilots. By the way CCP, since the game is a replication of ship warfare since when do you ever see naval cruisers running around with motor parts that fit aircraft carriers? What we have is akin to diesel fired submarines fitting massive nuclear power plants for added steam. Why are battleship class parts capable of fitting into something that should have considerably less physical space in the ship. How about we keep it to medium pieces fit medium ships etc.
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 129	Posted - 2011.10.14 20:40:00 - [71] - Quote Ilkahn wrote: Akirei Scytale wrote: afterburners on a thorax / brutix = FAIL. the ship uses blasters. you don't keep your MWD running once youre in scram range, you point, web, and turn them into debris. a MWD lets you actually catch your target and ruin it. an afterburner? utterly useless for the role the ship fills, as you will never catch a MWDing ship of any class, while they pummel you to dust with their longer-range weapons. and pretty much every single pvp ship is going to have a MWD fit unless its some sort of highsec "pvp" fit. You can't use scrams anymore. Since everyone is mounting 100MN afterburners on all the T2 and T1 BC and Cruiser hulls a scram is useless. One more thing that is a pain in the rear for slower gallente pilots. By the way CCP, since the game is a replication of ship warfare since when do you ever see naval cruisers running around with motor parts that fit aircraft carriers? What we have is akin to diesel fired submarines fitting massive nuclear power plants for added steam. Why are battleship class parts capable of fitting into something that should have considerably less physical space in the ship. How about we keep it to medium pieces fit medium ships etc. if your opponent is using a 100MN AB, then it is absurdly easy to screw him over because of the abysmal acceleration that results in. Just fly manually and there really is not much he can do to stop you from running away or forcing him up close due to your relative agility. my non-gank thorax has a MWD and a 1600mm plate, with a scram and web, and it works splendidly.
Ilkahn United Aerospace Co-op 3	Posted - 2011.10.14 20:56:00 - [72] - Quote Akirei Scytale wrote: Ilkahn wrote: Akirei Scytale wrote: afterburners on a thorax / brutix = FAIL. the ship uses blasters. you don't keep your MWD running once youre in scram range, you point, web, and turn them into debris. a MWD lets you actually catch your target and ruin it. an afterburner? utterly useless for the role the ship fills, as you will never catch a MWDing ship of any class, while they pummel you to dust with their longer-range weapons. and pretty much every single pvp ship is going to have a MWD fit unless its some sort of highsec "pvp" fit. You can't use scrams anymore. Since everyone is mounting 100MN afterburners on all the T2 and T1 BC and Cruiser hulls a scram is useless. One more thing that is a pain in the rear for slower gallente pilots. By the way CCP, since the game is a replication of ship warfare since when do you ever see naval cruisers running around with motor parts that fit aircraft carriers? What we have is akin to diesel fired submarines fitting massive nuclear power plants for added steam. Why are battleship class parts capable of fitting into something that should have considerably less physical space in the ship. How about we keep it to medium pieces fit medium ships etc. if your opponent is using a 100MN AB, then it is absurdly easy to screw him over because of the abysmal acceleration that results in. Just fly manually and there really is not much he can do to stop you from running away or forcing him up close due to your relative agility. my non-gank thorax has a MWD and a 1600mm plate, with a scram and web, and it works splendidly. couple it with two nanos and a shield tank. Hurricane's are tough to catch like that.
draconothese Independant Celestial Enterprises Pink Fluffy Pussycats 3	Posted - 2011.10.22 22:24:00 - [73] - Quote heres what there known for high dps that they cant even apply because of rang to target and they cant track when they are in range atualy nowdays its not even that high of dps pretty much right now there pure crap and im stuck with them

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