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Manyara
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Posted - 2005.08.05 09:56:00 -
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Xetic.
Weren't they dead? Didnt 5 kill them?
What the hell is this? A ghost fleet? I think i've been in my pod too long...
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Band Zior
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Posted - 2005.08.05 10:13:00 -
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Collection of 3 badly bruised alliances (XF, RED, F) doesn't make a potent military power. They can coordinate one attack of this sort, but the nature of things is they can't sustain it for any meaningful period of time.
Their only objective was to "stick it to 5" which they somewhat achieved. But strategically they have nowhere to go.
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Silvitni
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Posted - 2005.08.05 10:14:00 -
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Nice job Xetic
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.08.05 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: LoxyRider Well done then. I was having diner at the time but heard the news on ts.
JV1 is an odd system only having 4 moons, from what i hear its been a problem for Suprem with secure containers at those moons, various bugs, usual station problems. I have to give credit where its due to XF and so on for organising this neat little op and catching us off our guard.
However as others have pointed out this from a strategic point was... well pointless. We will see how the pos situation is, if worse comes to worse we have to wait for our dreads to be delievered.
Olyyy and XT, a nice last stand but i hope you see when we have that station back that XF is dead, it died a fine death to superior military power. Dont let it be remembered as a small force worth nothing.
I think Xetic has to remembered as a crazy mining alliance, at least thy were nearly 2 years ago when I met them first time
Your bla bla hit bla bla for bla bla damage. Wanna have some bubu now? |
Cmdr Patrick
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Posted - 2005.08.05 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Guderian Edited by: Guderian on 05/08/2005 07:38:25 Let me get this straight:
Two alliances (RA and Foundation) plus friends plus whatever is left of XETIC, planned an operation for several weeks to take back one (1) station deep in one (1) region, are cheering because they caught a corp on a mining op and were able to take the station. Furthermore the two alliances plus friends plus XETIC are now planning a joint op to hold that one (1) station for a long time.
Gotcha.
Maybe a measly (1) loss for the 5 but it was a big (11111) win for xetic.
Gotcha.
Ikvar > This peice of **** is greifing me |
Guderian
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Posted - 2005.08.05 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Griseus GMs won't give them back anything because it was the way 5 invaded Cache and WC. Now there is massive sovereignty BUG and GM's can't do anything with it. They decided do not interfere in that, and i think this remains untill next patch (who knows then it will be)
So the, by RA, claimed GM's/dev's in [5] can't help us? Damnit, I guess it's another weekend of shooting stations then, while I could have been mining veldspar.
"Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lies beyond." |
Guderian
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Posted - 2005.08.05 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Cmdr Patrick
Originally by: Guderian Edited by: Guderian on 05/08/2005 07:38:25 Let me get this straight:
Two alliances (RA and Foundation) plus friends plus whatever is left of XETIC, planned an operation for several weeks to take back one (1) station deep in one (1) region, are cheering because they caught a corp on a mining op and were able to take the station. Furthermore the two alliances plus friends plus XETIC are now planning a joint op to hold that one (1) station for a long time.
Gotcha.
Maybe a measly (1) loss for the 5 but it was a big (11111) win for xetic.
Gotcha.
Good point, actually.
"Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lies beyond." |
Nafri
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Posted - 2005.08.05 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Guderian
Originally by: Griseus GMs won't give them back anything because it was the way 5 invaded Cache and WC. Now there is massive sovereignty BUG and GM's can't do anything with it. They decided do not interfere in that, and i think this remains untill next patch (who knows then it will be)
So the, by RA, claimed GM's/dev's in [5] can't help us? Damnit, I guess it's another weekend of shooting stations then, while I could have been mining veldspar.
Well, I think Shinra has only 1 POS there and the others 3, so basicly the alt above was posting from 5s point of view
Your bla bla hit bla bla for bla bla damage. Wanna have some bubu now? |
Tansien
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Posted - 2005.08.05 10:59:00 -
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Yes this turn of events is most unfortunate.
*does the no-mining op dance* *\o/*
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.08.05 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tansien Yes this turn of events is most unfortunate.
*does the no-mining op dance* *\o/*
Look at that - you're dancing, we're dancing - everyone's happy!
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Obidios
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Posted - 2005.08.05 11:22:00 -
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Grats on a well done plan for that.... But PLEASE stay!!! -----------------
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.08.05 11:27:00 -
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Someone was caught with pants down...
I've also heard rumors that ATUK kicked members that didn't want to participate in mining
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.08.05 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 05/08/2005 11:29:37
Originally by: Zzazzt Now say thank-you
thanks !
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cordy
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Posted - 2005.08.05 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jhodas
Xetic have merely backed themselves into a corner and are waiting to be bbqd.
Can i come and watch at the sideline?
Rl Girly-Co-Ceo of Solst-Loxyrider's girl
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Cmdr Patrick
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Posted - 2005.08.05 11:35:00 -
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Admission is a hug.
Ikvar > This peice of **** is greifing me |
StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.08.05 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC Someone was caught with pants down...
I've also heard rumors that ATUK kicked members that didn't want to participate in mining
Vinculum unitatis (the bond of unity)
STAN
FACTA NON VERBA BRING BACK MMO CASINO |
Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.08.05 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC I've also heard rumors that ATUK kicked members that didn't want to participate in mining
OMG Shock News! Corp caught requiring it's members to participate in teamwork!!111!Eleventy!1!!
Hope you all have some fun fights for this station.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2005.08.05 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 05/08/2005 11:29:37
Originally by: Zzazzt Now say thank-you
thanks !
You're welcome ____________________________________________
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.05 12:36:00 -
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Well, Foundation and RA be prepared for Xetic not fighting :D
We have been playing the POS game with xetic for months now.
Taking an NPC station does not mean much, if you cant hold the space. Lets see how long RA can hold it up. Xetic themselves will not fight.
TBH, we were bored with only having some random VOTF around our space not doing anything. This gave us a nice bump to actually get together and do something other than mining :D. Ooh this is gonna be one very nasty weekend.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.08.05 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: LoxyRider Well done then. I was having diner at the time but heard the news on ts.
JV1 is an odd system only having 4 moons, from what i hear its been a problem for Suprem with secure containers at those moons, various bugs, usual station problems. I have to give credit where its due to XF and so on for organising this neat little op and catching us off our guard.
However as others have pointed out this from a strategic point was... well pointless. We will see how the pos situation is, if worse comes to worse we have to wait for our dreads to be delievered.
Olyyy and XT, a nice last stand but i hope you see when we have that station back that XF is dead, it died a fine death to superior military power. Dont let it be remembered as a small force worth nothing.
I don't think this operation was pointless at all on a strategic level Afterall... how much already ? somebody said 30 billions of [5] assets stuck in station. Well I guess it ain't bad
Although this might just be temporary, I'd say it was worth the effort and it's more than just some Alliance PR. We chose the right target and attacked at the right time. We did actually hurt the [5]. It won't kill them, but it will annoy them. And there is also the funny part of the story... How can an alliance which died approx a dozen of times according to all the statements you made get so many ships in one place and do such damages to the invincible [5] ? =] *cough*
Oh and one last thing Loxy: the XF lost all its stations about 3 months ago. It regained one from time to time to reloose it afterwards. Even if you manage to retake jv1v-0 someday it wouldn't mean you won and XF finaly died.
Be sure of one thing tho: whatever happens and XF or not I won't stop fighting the [5] until you get out from Tenerifis
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.05 13:17:00 -
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As has been said before. There is NO way to kill an alliance in this game if it choses to not disband. Basically, I can start and alliance and sit in station 24/7/365. And it will be alive as long as I chose to leave it that way.
This is temporary be assured. We had fun time with some Russians BS in F-E just later that night . Xetic have tried previously to take stations, but they lack the ability to fight. The only fight we get is the "planned logistical manouvres" every few weeks that backfire on them a few days later. And they disappear for another few weeks.
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.08.05 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Elenia Kheynes I don't think this operation was pointless at all on a strategic level Afterall... how much already ? somebody said 30 billions of [5] assets stuck in station. Well I guess it ain't bad
Although this might just be temporary, I'd say it was worth the effort and it's more than just some Alliance PR. We chose the right target and attacked at the right time. We did actually hurt the [5]. It won't kill them, but it will annoy them.
Assets are not lost, and i dont think any bs or ships have been either (there may have been ganks i havent heard of but there hasnt been any fighting). You havent done anything except annoy us a little as you say.
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes And there is also the funny part of the story... How can an alliance which died approx a dozen of times according to all the statements you made get so many ships in one place and do such damages to the invincible [5] ? =] *cough*
You call in 2 other alliances thats how, XF (which is actually just XT tbh or is there another corp still in XF?), RA and F, three alliances not just XF. And again no damage except take up some of our time.
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes Oh and one last thing Loxy: the XF lost all its stations about 3 months ago. It regained one from time to time to reloose it afterwards. Even if you manage to retake jv1v-0 someday it wouldn't mean you won and XF finaly died.
Be sure of one thing tho: whatever happens and XF or not I won't stop fighting the [5] until you get out from Tenerifis
So be it. You cant completly destroy an alliance and if XF wants to hang on to past impressions of glory continue as you are. But any ideas of actually getting Tenerifis back are nothing but delusions.
I think most of us are pleasantly surprised at this turn of events , gives us an excuse to stop mining lol. And no, this in no way effects our plans for dreadnaughts, im sure your pos will make fine targets when the time comes. ----- Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2005.08.05 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Be sure of one thing tho: whatever happens and XF or not I won't stop fighting the [5] until you get out from Tenerifis
Lovin the Xetic last stand bull.....all this praise for an alliance (which admitidly I was once part of) can get all these logistics together to doggedly keep hold of a single region in a small part and with less than 300 members, yet in the dying days as over 1000 couldn't keep said area secure. Where was the effort in them days and what changed to make Tenerifis, and not Impass, Omist, fethybolis and Immensea a target?
Time will tell on this but IMO the end for Xetic is not near, but the last of the last ditch efforts to hold onto long lost regions will be over soon. -----------------------------
It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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Phoenix Pryde
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Posted - 2005.08.05 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: LoxyRider
So be it. You cant completly destroy an alliance and if XF wants to hang on to past impressions of glory continue as you are. But any ideas of actually getting Tenerifis back are nothing but delusions.
I dont really think XF is delusional or hanging to any impressions of past glory ... (actually when was XF ever that glorious? )
But whats left of XF, well actually its very core, XT, might be sticking to XF and its former territories because they ARE XF? XT founded Xetic back in the beta of EVE, i d be surprised if they d gave it up that lightly. Others might have done so, but for myself i can only respect the decision to carry on, no matter what. XF never was a fighting alliance (even if some part of it believed so at later stages), it was founded initially as a trading alliance. XF ultimately failed on a large scale because parts of it became delusional and were confident of their own greatness. Reality catched up with them. But i dare to say these are not the (few) ones who are left in XF. Whats left of XF is quite traditional, they are aware that they are no pvp gods, and i m pretty sure they are aware that they cant compete with a pvp force like the 5.
In the hard time XF obviously had and has i would say what they did certainly was a success for them. No matter if they had help, no matter if its only a nuisance to 5, no matter if its only temporary. They never gave entirely up, and decided to chose the hard way, and stay in their former territories. The easy choice would have been to disband, join another alliance, or just go elsewhere where its easier to live.
They stayed, and chose to fight. Maybe not as vicious as some pvp corps or alliances would, maybe they need more planning time, and maybe they have a lot more losses. Nevertheless they do fight for their space, for their ideals. And that deserves at least some respect i would say.
With that said, congratulations to XF for showing a new spark of life, and a well planned and successfull operation. Good luck for holding what you gained. And at the same time good luck to the 5 in retaking what was lost. I m pretty sure you ll manage eventually, but some POS's should be a challenge even for you. But then challenges are whats most interesting here ;)
XTECH t2 sales: www.ii-inc.org/xtech |
Guderian
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Posted - 2005.08.05 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Guderian on 05/08/2005 14:42:40
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes ... And there is also the funny part of the story... How can an alliance which died approx a dozen of times according to all the statements you made get so many ships in one place and do such damages to the invincible [5] ? =] *cough* ...
An alliance that had the biggest player base in terms of numbers, and used to claim they destroyed CA has been reduced to a few dozens freedom fighters that has to call in two other alliances plus friends to retake one station, in an op that was weeks in planning.
You find it funny... I find it tragical.
"Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lies beyond." |
KissMyBoots
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Posted - 2005.08.05 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: KissMyBoots on 05/08/2005 14:47:21 Well done whoever was involved ...it has made heartening reading, Luke skywalker taking down a death star comes to mind...although the evil empire vowed they would destroy the rebels and threatened everyone with their plans for lethal weapons to crush alliance opposition lol...this sound like the ebil [5] alliance to anyone?
Originally by: FalloutBoy if its true suppremacy had 3 pos claiming soveriegnty they should jsut pettion it and ccp will prolly give the station back since its a bug :P
I think you mis-read the statement from 5.2s official forums...XETIC had 3 POS's (not 5), which goes to demonstrate that the real "victory" is the dispelling of myths:
1. That [5] control their occupied areas...as somehow XETIC managed to set up, supply and maintain 3 POS's next to a [5] station where their had been over 40 active pilots for several weeks...this is a greater achievement than firing guns and taking a station
2. That as XETIC managed to do this the claims that the uber [5] pvp alliance (5) killed off the ultimate carebear alliance (XETIC)may have been a bit premature
3. That [5] aren't loveable carebears at heart really who even blob roid belts with 40 ship mining parties
4. That [5] always "jump in" as they did not on this occasion, as their relief force (mostly frigates class ships), DID not engage and the operation sustained zero losses
5. That [5]'s uber spy network (which we are led to believe knows what we all eat for breakfast), didn't seem to pick up on a 100 ship operation planned for weeks...or maybe they did and let it happen to motivate their bored PvP'rs to seek "vengeance"?
...ooo and watch out of claims that they are "kicking" people for not mining, thats the cover story for getting their members into target corps and alliances
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2005.08.05 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenix Pryde
They stayed, and chose to fight. Maybe not as vicious as some pvp corps or alliances would, maybe they need more planning time, and maybe they have a lot more losses. Nevertheless they do fight for their space, for their ideals. And that deserves at least some respect i would say.
What XF did or should we say XT, is try and hold onto a region they hoped had no meaning to anyone. If they would have faught for Impass or Omist where ever it was they origionally resided for Months then maybe they could have taken some honour in their actions, but what they do now is hold onto some glory of the old XF in hope that Tenerifis a long forgotten part of the old XF territory will be left alone.
True its valiant if somewhat fool hardy of them to try this against the might of [5] but lets not mix this up with ideals, as if it was about ideals they would have faught like this a long time ago and many months before moving to Tenerifis.
Ah what do I know I am just a grunt. -----------------------------
It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.08.05 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: KissMyBoots Edited by: KissMyBoots on 05/08/2005 14:47:21 Well done whoever was involved ...it has made heartening reading, Luke skywalker taking down a death star comes to mind...although the evil empire vowed they would destroy the rebels and threatened everyone with their plans for lethal weapons to crush alliance opposition lol...this sound like the ebil [5] alliance to anyone?
Originally by: FalloutBoy if its true suppremacy had 3 pos claiming soveriegnty they should jsut pettion it and ccp will prolly give the station back since its a bug :P
I think you mis-read the statement from 5.2s official forums...XETIC had 3 POS's (not 5), which goes to demonstrate that the real "victory" is the dispelling of myths:
1. That [5] control their occupied areas...as somehow XETIC managed to set up, supply and maintain 3 POS's next to a [5] station where their had been over 40 active pilots for several weeks...this is a greater achievement than firing guns and taking a station
2. That as XETIC managed to do this the claims that the uber [5] pvp alliance (5) killed off the ultimate carebear alliance (XETIC)may have been a bit premature
3. That [5] aren't loveable carebears at heart really who even blob roid belts with 40 ship mining parties
4. That [5] always "jump in" as they did not on this occasion, as their relief force (mostly frigates class ships), DID not engage and the operation sustained zero losses
5. That [5]'s uber spy network (which we are led to believe knows what we all eat for breakfast), didn't seem to pick up on a 100 ship operation planned for weeks...or maybe they did and let it happen to motivate their bored PvP'rs to seek "vengeance"?
...ooo and watch out of claims that they are "kicking" people for not mining, thats the cover story for getting their members into target corps and alliances
I was gonna comment as i've been the one handling the petition going for the last 4 weeks, but then deleted it as it involved GM communications which would get this thread locked faster than people could say IBTL. We'll see what comes of this.
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Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2005.08.05 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: KissMyBoots Edited by: KissMyBoots on 05/08/2005 14:47:21 Well done whoever was involved ...it
...ooo target corps and alliances
HI MR. ALT!!! Can someone check his corp, I am at work and can't play atm. I smell alt troll all the way from here. Good show man, I bet you had all that bottled up inside for sometime now. Its good to release that hate once in awhile.
Feel better now?
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Hastrabull
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Posted - 2005.08.05 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: KissMyBoots Edited by: KissMyBoots on 05/08/2005 14:47:21 Well done whoever was involved ...it has made heartening reading, Luke skywalker taking down a death star comes to mind...although the evil empire vowed they would destroy the rebels and threatened everyone with their plans for lethal weapons to crush alliance opposition lol...this sound like the ebil [5] alliance to anyone?
Originally by: FalloutBoy if its true suppremacy had 3 pos claiming soveriegnty they should jsut pettion it and ccp will prolly give the station back since its a bug :P
I think you mis-read the statement from 5.2s official forums...XETIC had 3 POS's (not 5), which goes to demonstrate that the real "victory" is the dispelling of myths:
1. That [5] control their occupied areas...as somehow XETIC managed to set up, supply and maintain 3 POS's next to a [5] station where their had been over 40 active pilots for several weeks...this is a greater achievement than firing guns and taking a station
2. That as XETIC managed to do this the claims that the uber [5] pvp alliance (5) killed off the ultimate carebear alliance (XETIC)may have been a bit premature
3. That [5] aren't loveable carebears at heart really who even blob roid belts with 40 ship mining parties
4. That [5] always "jump in" as they did not on this occasion, as their relief force (mostly frigates class ships), DID not engage and the operation sustained zero losses
5. That [5]'s uber spy network (which we are led to believe knows what we all eat for breakfast), didn't seem to pick up on a 100 ship operation planned for weeks...or maybe they did and let it happen to motivate their bored PvP'rs to seek "vengeance"?
...ooo and watch out of claims that they are "kicking" people for not mining, thats the cover story for getting their members into target corps and alliances
Mama please, look, im ebil
And in point 5 you are so right my friend. That was OUR mysterious plan and we achieved it.
Now we dont have to fly 100j's to find any target. We have plenty of targets right nextdoor
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