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Lupus Borealis
Lupus Borealis Trading
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Posted - 2013.02.26 21:52:00 -
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http://liliputing.com/2013/02/razer-edge-windows-8-gaming-tablet-up-for-pre-order-march-1st.html
Beats my laptop!
I like this. Sorry fellow nerds, but I have always hated PC computers  |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4062
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Posted - 2013.02.26 21:54:00 -
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"Razer." Never understood why they spelled it that way. Malcanis for CSM 8 Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |

Orlacc
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Posted - 2013.02.26 21:56:00 -
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1.7ghz processor and 4gb RAM? Oh well if you like it it will be fun til it burns up. |

Sentamon
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Posted - 2013.02.26 21:56:00 -
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Imagine throwing that across the room when something bad happens. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2013.02.26 21:57:00 -
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When a gaming tablet can beat my dual 27" monitors for gaming beauty, I will be the first in line.
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Beckie DeLey
Living From Scraps
342
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:01:00 -
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I own a tablet and a PC. Both fulfill very different purposes and i don't see how a gaming tablet would be of use to me. So... i started an industry blog at www.derbk.com/eve There i am preparing a guide to all things related to manufacturing. Check it out!
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Renzo Ruderi
State War Academy Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:04:00 -
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This is how the failure of a so-called gaming tablet starts. |

stoicfaux
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:04:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:"Razer." Never understood why they spelled it that way. Because "Razer" isn't a real word and can thus be easily trademarked?
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stoicfaux
2449
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:10:00 -
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Lupus Borealis wrote:http://liliputing.com/2013/02/razer-edge-windows-8-gaming-tablet-up-for-pre-order-march-1st.html Beats my laptop! I like this. Sorry fellow nerds, but I have always hated PC computers  "...tablet that gets about 3 hours of battery life during normal use and half that while playing demanding PC games."
"the first tablet of its type thatGÇÖs actually capable of playing many of the latest PC games with graphics quality set to medium."
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4062
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:12:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:"Razer." Never understood why they spelled it that way. Because "Razer" isn't a real word and can thus be easily trademarked? It also looks dumb. Malcanis for CSM 8 Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
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Sala Kyss
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
57
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:15:00 -
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This tablet will make playing skills que online that much easier |

Major 'Revolver' Ocelot
GRU Special Forces
27
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:18:00 -
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Am I the only one that finds tablets/touch screens gimmicky and annoying ? Do something original and also windows 8 is horrible. I love to reload during a battle!-áThere's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver missile into a well greased chamber... |

Magnus Targaryen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:25:00 -
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$999+ for a glorified iPad. I don't see a purpose for that device and it just looks plain awkward to handle. It doesn't look any more portable than a laptop, with weak specs and low resolution. I do like Razer products but this seems like another one of their luxury gaming items marketed toward wealthy customers looking to show off a new device. My 2-3 year old laptop has better specs and its price was roughly the same. I believe tablet gaming is meant for app stores and games ranging in quality from Angry Birds to Infinity Blade and file sizes/performance demands kept relatively low. Leave the more demanding games to laptops/PCs and consoles. |

Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
297
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:26:00 -
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Too fragile... when I feel "The Rage", there will be bits everywhere -- cement foundation walls in my basement are like that. 
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
269
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:28:00 -
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Good luck trying to play Eve on that.
Eve != Nintendo |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
2498
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:42:00 -
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The first time I hear someone in local brag about owning one of these..I will grief them to the point that when I relieve them of their ship..they mysteriously DC. I will then laugh hysterically because besides the hull and pod, i will have blapped a 1000$ glorified iPad too. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

stoicfaux
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:49:00 -
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On the positive side: A lot of PC games are simply console ports, so the razer table with its integrated controllers should work...
On a super positive note: Given that the PS4 is a PC, this tablet is going to be subject to all kinds of amusing lawsuits when someone writes a PS4 emulator...
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Forum Clone 77777
State War Academy Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:54:00 -
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Lupus Borealis wrote:I have always hated PC computers  You always hated Personal Computer computers?
Think about how stupid it was of you to say that.
Anyway, tablets will never live up to the standards of a PC. |

Major 'Revolver' Ocelot
GRU Special Forces
27
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:58:00 -
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Forum Clone 77777 wrote:Lupus Borealis wrote:I have always hated PC computers  You always hated Personal Computer computers? Think about how stupid it was of you to say that. Anyway, tablets will never live up to the standards of a PC.
Yet they continue to be outsold because of sheeple flocking to the next shiny. I love to reload during a battle!-áThere's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver missile into a well greased chamber... |

Mon Diddies
Ascendancy.
3
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:58:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:When a gaming tablet can beat my dual 27" monitors for gaming beauty, I will be the first in line. Mr Epeen 
hahaha yeah i hear that i run 2 32 inch and 1 23 inch Dont believe anything you read, and only half of what you see. To be fair dont trust what you hear either.!!!!!!! TINFOIL ACTIVATE!!!!!!!!! |
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2990
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:59:00 -
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Tablets are a ****** interface for gaming, to be completely frank. They could start a new, console-like market, with subgenres of games built to operate on simple control schemes on a touch-screen interface, but they aren't going to replace PCs.
The mouse + keyboard combination is pretty much ideal for gaming. It allows an absolutely massive number of buttons to be immediately accessible, and doesn't involve time-consuming gestures or anything of the like. That, and a PC can be high-performance with little worry about overheating. Cases are spacious and generally designed for ideal airflow. Tablets have to be extremely slim by design, meaning closely packed together components. This means anything taking full advantage of the hardware is going to put that hardware at risk during extended use. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Lupus Borealis
Lupus Borealis Trading
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Posted - 2013.02.26 22:59:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:When a gaming tablet can beat my dual 27" monitors for gaming beauty, I will be the first in line. Mr Epeen  Well, I can connect my working tablet to my 40 inch TV, without any wires.
This is the future, like it or not. Bitter vets most likely will not like it, but who cares  |

stoicfaux
2449
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:02:00 -
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Forum Clone 77777 wrote:Lupus Borealis wrote:I have always hated PC computers  You always hated Personal Computer computers? Think about how stupid it was of you to say that. Anyway, tablets will never live up to the standards of a PC. However, PC standards will drop down to the level of tablets. /einstein
Meaning, if "every" game requires the console market to be successful, then every game will be a console port, which fits nicely in the razer's niche.
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Lupus Borealis
Lupus Borealis Trading
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:04:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote: The mouse + keyboard combination is pretty much ideal for gaming.
Console market is and has been much bigger than PC gaming market, with basically gaming pad only.
In future you control games with 3d gestures, and communicate with voice commands and speach. |

Jensaro Koraka
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:05:00 -
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Lupus Borealis wrote:http://liliputing.com/2013/02/razer-edge-windows-8-gaming-tablet-up-for-pre-order-march-1st.html Beats my laptop! I like this. Sorry fellow nerds, but I have always hated PC computers  Now you can use the world's least powerful gaming computer, heaviest and most uncomfortable controller and smallest monitor all at once! What will they think of next? |

Devious Relation
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:09:00 -
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It looks like a sanitry towel with a screen     |

Lupus Borealis
Lupus Borealis Trading
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:11:00 -
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For example Google is developing system where you can type, without keyboad. Just type air with your fingers. The system recognizes only those finger movements that are the same when typing on keyboard.
There are dozens of different applications coming out in few years, that can enable gaming without real gaming pad, mouse or keyboard.
Tablet gaming will be handheld gaming, but it's just one new way of gaming.
Question is, how may old games can evolve into the future and stay alive in new platforms and systems? |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
287
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:17:00 -
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Hahahahahahahaha. What a joke.
Titles you will enjoy on gaming Tablets: Gorilla arm 1. Gorilla arm 2. Gorilla arm 3. Battletoads. |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
287
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:19:00 -
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Lupus Borealis wrote:
In future you control games with dance pad with multi directional arrows on it.
Fixed for accuracy. |

Devious Relation
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:19:00 -
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Lets be honest. the best way to control a game is keyboard and mouse. This is why when halo 1 yes the original halo was released which amtched pc gamers and console gamers in joint servers there wre so many tears they had to seperate the two. PC gamers were dominating.
3 modes of the "gaming tablet"
1 - as a tablet - if someone wants a tablet they will buy one!
2 - as a laptop - ummm I have a laptop which is quite good tyvm, why buy another.
3 - as the worlds biggest game controller - um yeah, even the old N64 controlers were more erganomicaly designed.
Dislike the whole idea.
The reason people love pc's and I myself would never change is you can upgrade parts yourself, troubleshoot issues easily with their operating systems - not rely on a type of android app to be hotfixed.
PC's are currently and will remain for a long time the only serious gaming machine. |
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Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
287
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:20:00 -
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Jensaro Koraka wrote:Lupus Borealis wrote:I like this. Sorry fellow nerds, but I have always hated PC computers  It's by definition impossible for a nerd to hate PCs.
I'm getting the feeling here that lupus is screenshotting each post he makes, uploading it to instagram, and then posting it on his facebook with the tag 'omg im such a nerd' |

Lupus Borealis
Lupus Borealis Trading
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:23:00 -
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Sorry to dissapoint you, I do not have Facebook or Instagram(wtf is that)? accounts. Sadly I am old fart, I still use IRC and irssi.  |

Jensaro Koraka
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:33:00 -
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Lupus Borealis wrote:Question is, how may old games can evolve into the future and stay alive in new platforms and systems? I can evolve just fine, but it's not evolution if it's worse than existing technology. Some of the stuff you're talking about like kinect-like control systems are technologically impossible. I've tried with the Wii and Kinect at my 13 year old cousin's house. Neither one actually works. They're pretty much impossible to precisely control a game with. They're every bit the useless gimmick the power glove was when I was a kid. Even the things that aren't limited by technology will still not take over gaming because they serve as an alternative, not a replacement. They're not even targeted at the gamer market. They're targeted at non-gamers who play games once in a while. Do you really think anyone but a professional athlete is going to use a Kinect for 6 hours straight? My arms hurt after 1. Do you really think some ridiculous air keyboard can tell apart keys that are millimeters away from each other when the Kinect/Wii can't even tell when I stick my whole arm out? Do you think complex games like MMOs can be played with 6 buttons or even no buttons? Nothing will ever replace the traditional desktop, regardless of what new fads come and go. |

Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures Surely You're Joking
369
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:33:00 -
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Lupus Borealis wrote:Sorry to dissapoint you, I do not have Facebook or Instagram(wtf is that)? accounts. Sadly I am old fart, I still use IRC and irssi.  your not missing anything, the only reason i have a facebook is because my cousin made on and told me i have to live with it, the only uses it sees is when scheduling D&D groups with buddies, or adding people who "know me" to the block list because of the annoying spam.
IMO, social media sites are annoying and serve as nothing more than a distraction for the less-inteligent of a populace to be subjected to advertising even when tlaking with their "friends".
i prefer eve for all my online communication, and occasionaly email (but that gets so hard when i switch my email with a new one every 13 days) |

Lupus Borealis
Lupus Borealis Trading
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:35:00 -
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Jensaro Koraka wrote:Lupus Borealis wrote:Question is, how may old games can evolve into the future and stay alive in new platforms and systems? I can evolve just fine, but it's not evolution if it's worse than existing technology. Some of the stuff you're talking about like kinect-like control systems are technologically impossible. I've tried with the Wii and Kinect at my 13 year old cousin's house. Neither one actually works. They're pretty much impossible to precisely control a game with. They're every bit the useless gimmick the power glove was when I was a kid. Even the things that aren't limited by technology will still not take over gaming because they serve as an alternative, not a replacement. They're not even targeted at the gamer market. They're targeted at non-gamers who play games once in a while. Do you really think anyone but a professional athlete is going to use a Kinect for 6 hours straight? My arms hurt after 1. Do you really think some ridiculous air keyboard can tell apart keys that are millimeters away from each other when the Kinect/Wii can't even tell when I stick my whole arm out? Do you think complex games like MMOs can be played with 6 buttons or even no buttons? Nothing will ever replace the traditional desktop, regardless of what new fads come and go. That ridiculous keyboard gets under 7% fail rate after 3 hours of use. Pretty nice from product that isnt even close to be released. |

Jensaro Koraka
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.02.26 23:37:00 -
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Lupus Borealis wrote: That ridiculous keyboard gets under 7% fail rate after 3 hours of use. Pretty nice from product that isnt even close to be released.
That's not possible. It's not even possible to move one's fingers that precisely without tactile feedback even if the tech to measure it existed. Let's see some proof. Even in the unlikely event that it is true, my physical keyboard gets a 0% fail rate after well over 6 hours. It also costs less and doesn't make you look stupid. |

Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures Surely You're Joking
369
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Posted - 2013.02.27 02:49:00 -
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Jensaro Koraka wrote:Lupus Borealis wrote: That ridiculous keyboard gets under 7% fail rate after 3 hours of use. Pretty nice from product that isnt even close to be released.
That's not possible. It's not even possible to move one's fingers that precisely without tactile feedback even if the tech to measure it existed. Let's see some proof. Even in the unlikely event that it is true, my physical keyboard gets a 0% fail rate after well over 6 hours. It also costs less and doesn't make you look silly. James Amril-Kesh wrote:"Razer." Never understood why they spelled it that way. Because spelling like a kindergartner is kewl. not only that, in many MMO's, and games in general, that 7% fail rate can and WILL get you killed, would prefer my old reliable keybaord. |

NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
391
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Posted - 2013.02.27 03:24:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:Hahahahahahahaha. What a joke.
Titles you will enjoy on gaming Tablets: Gorilla arm 1. Gorilla arm 2. Gorilla arm 3. Battletoads. More like every x86 game produced. But that is an actual useful measure rather than the knee jerk crap espoused so commonly here on GD.
Now what makes me curious is the dock and lifespan of the tablet when the screen is off. Because if combine this with Google Glasses (or just mod your own out of current huds like a good tinker) then you could effect far more useful systems. The battery will be the biggest issue, then heat management. |

Setaceous
Nexus Prima
9
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Posted - 2013.02.27 03:26:00 -
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Jensaro Koraka wrote:Lupus Borealis wrote: That ridiculous keyboard gets under 7% fail rate after 3 hours of use. Pretty nice from product that isnt even close to be released.
That's not possible. It's not even possible to move one's fingers that precisely without tactile feedback even if the tech to measure it existed. Let's see some proof. Even in the unlikely event that it is true, my physical keyboard gets a 0% fail rate after well over 6 hours. It also costs less and doesn't make you look silly. James Amril-Kesh wrote:"Razer." Never understood why they spelled it that way. Because spelling like a kindergartner is kewl. Kewl? No. More like Xtreme. |

Ai Shun
885
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Posted - 2013.02.27 03:28:00 -
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Lupus Borealis wrote:Beats my laptop!
Doesn't beat mine 
But it is a nice looking device. And whilst it won't replace a desktop / laptop for me, I wonder what they're doing with heat, etc. and how comfortable it will be to play in the background while watching TV / catching some sun / etc.
Can never have too many toys, right?
EVE Ambulation and Avatars as a separate game - see here |
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Ris Dnalor
L'Avant Garde Happy Endings
460
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Posted - 2013.02.27 03:32:00 -
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Pewty McPew wrote:Good luck trying to play Eve on that.
Eve != Nintendo
would be great for dust.... except for bunnies.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961
EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody
- Qolde |

Aramatheia
European Nuthouse
103
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Posted - 2013.02.27 04:05:00 -
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Lupus Borealis wrote:For example Google is developing system where you can type, without keyboad. Just type air with your fingers. The system recognizes only those finger movements that are the same when typing on keyboard.
There are dozens of different applications coming out in few years, that can enable gaming without real gaming pad, mouse or keyboard.
Tablet gaming will be handheld gaming, but it's just one new way of gaming.
Question is, how may old games can evolve into the future and stay alive in new platforms and systems?
that whole typing in air using specific movement recognition is already flawed. No one does things exactly the same as the next person. So the tech who tells the system what "typing on keyboard" looks like, will be the only human on the planet to use that system, cause the next person along will inevitably have differences in motion and action.
I'd never use a tablet for gaming, i think they are pointless except for maybe emails and that sort of "work" stuff on the go. For games? no. motion sensing movement? so you have to prop it up against something stand back and jiggle? how big is this tablet? it will have to be huge to see the screen, too big to reasonably carry, unless you are meant to squint at the screen whilst jiggling and twitching trying to make it do... whatever - unless it can somehow read all your motions from half a meter away
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Baconarious Caesar
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.02.27 04:25:00 -
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Keep in mind it wasn't that long ago, "in the old days", when people said... No way I'm giving up VHS! Disks are stupid,trendy, and won't last... |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
288
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Posted - 2013.02.27 06:56:00 -
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I saw inches i saw resolution i saw processor speed and ram
After i saw those things i noticed price and did a facepalm.
It need more raw power under the hood for me to even consider using it....it doesn't need handles LOL it doesn't need screen at all..what it need to do is to have tv / monitor output and mouse and keyboard connection.
OMG i just realized i don't need tablet what so ever!..i need more like small cube with fusion reactor and tv out.keyboard mouse. :P
Edit...
WTF they laterally glued 2 joystick on tablet and called it "gaming" dear god. Leeloo Dallas Multipass - "Big bada boom"
http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rbmgtGx.jpg Ninja over Black-ops. |

Lupus Borealis
Lupus Borealis Trading
5
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Posted - 2013.02.27 09:08:00 -
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Aramatheia wrote:Lupus Borealis wrote:For example Google is developing system where you can type, without keyboad. Just type air with your fingers. The system recognizes only those finger movements that are the same when typing on keyboard.
There are dozens of different applications coming out in few years, that can enable gaming without real gaming pad, mouse or keyboard.
Tablet gaming will be handheld gaming, but it's just one new way of gaming.
Question is, how may old games can evolve into the future and stay alive in new platforms and systems? that whole typing in air using specific movement recognition is already flawed. No one does things exactly the same as the next person. So the tech who tells the system what "typing on keyboard" looks like, will be the only human on the planet to use that system, cause the next person along will inevitably have differences in motion and action. I'd never use a tablet for gaming, i think they are pointless except for maybe emails and that sort of "work" stuff on the go. For games? no. motion sensing movement? so you have to prop it up against something stand back and jiggle? how big is this tablet? it will have to be huge to see the screen, too big to reasonably carry, unless you are meant to squint at the screen whilst jiggling and twitching trying to make it do... whatever - unless it can somehow read all your motions from half a meter away LOL....
That keyboard learns while you type. The more you type with it, more it recognizes YOUR finger movements.
I do normal officework, including huge spreadsheets with tablet. I only have docking station and bluetooth keyboard for huge files. You would be surprised how handy touchpen is with spreadsheets. Also I can connect to my HP WIFI printer via wifi and print like from mac/linux/windows PC. And it sure is awesome to show slideshow wirelessly from your tablet to big screen.
I have played Civ5 tablet version with W8 pro tablet and it was great. It looked as awesome as in normal PC. Tablets do have same power as laptops, even more.
And the cold fact, most of PC gamers already at these days are using laptop. The old desktop PC will be gone in less than 5 years. Todays high end laptops are enough for even the heaviest work with computer, like 3d modeling, photoshop and programming. Our team is using HP's high end laptops, but large portion of it is already transferred to tablets. They are just much more viable for moving office work.
Our team doing outdoor stuff is using tablets with waterproof covers, doing their work even in heaviest rainfall. Not a chance to get laptops to work in those conditions. Well, there are some, but they aren't just cost effective.
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Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
229
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Posted - 2013.02.27 09:22:00 -
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this should be in Out Of Pod Experience, not EVE General Discussion. |

TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance
447
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Posted - 2013.02.27 09:32:00 -
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I'd love one.....
If it came with a mouse, keyboard, 24" screen, wasn't touch screen and I could use if comfortably at my desk.
I'm assuming that thing is in a cradle? Other wise it just looks really special needs. |

Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
74
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Posted - 2013.02.27 09:35:00 -
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I can finally steer my ship with the double headbang on the screen!
But why would somone buy such a device, with it being one of the newest products in its field flaws upon release will only be found and then a month after initial release there will be an updated version with less bug's
/P Hyperfleet Industries is selectivly recruiting. Enquire today. Killboard
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TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance
447
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Posted - 2013.02.27 09:35:00 -
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Baconarious Caesar wrote:Keep in mind it wasn't that long ago, "in the old days", when people said... No way I'm giving up VHS! Disks are stupid,trendy, and won't last... 
Pretty sure no one said that about VHS.
Pretty sure the second people realized that with DVD you didn't get that annoying hiss you used to get from VHS they started flying off the shelves. |

Le Badass
Zealots of Bob
60
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Posted - 2013.02.27 10:59:00 -
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Hey Ramiel, I know you're reading this thread. Please take Baltec by the hand, come in here and write walls of text about how gaming on tablets is a joke and will never happen in a million years. |
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kurg
Order of the Divine Shadow
12
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Posted - 2013.02.27 11:26:00 -
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Forum Clone 77777 wrote:(...) Anyway, tablets will never live up to the standards of a PC.
This just shows how much natural selection continues to plague Eve, all i can say is Geez with a /double_facepalm
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Forum Clone 77777
State War Academy Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2013.02.27 11:41:00 -
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Lupus Borealis wrote:[quote=Aramatheia]Tablets do have same power as laptops, even more.
And the cold fact, most of PC gamers already at these days are using laptop. The old desktop PC will be gone in less than 5 years. Todays high end laptops are enough for even the heaviest work with computer, like 3d modeling, photoshop and programming. Our team is using HP's high end laptops, but large portion of it is already transferred to tablets. They are just much more viable for moving office work.
Our team doing outdoor stuff is using tablets with waterproof covers, doing their work even in heaviest rainfall. Not a chance to get laptops to work in those conditions. Well, there are some, but they aren't just cost effective.
Tablets do not have the same power as a laptop, and a PC can be much more powerful than a laptop. Laptops are still computers, theyre just smaller and more mobile. They still work with a mouse and keyboard, but theyre less powerfull than a PC. I have both, go figure. Also tablets WERE MADE for actual work like you described, the idiots just figured they might aswell make them a gimmick aswell and so decided to do "GAMING" advertisement for it.
EDIT: Kurg "This just shows how much natural selection continues to plague Eve, all i can say is Geez with a /double_facepalm" The current "tablets" we see wont, guess this just shows how stupid some people in EVE are. |

Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
191
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Posted - 2013.02.27 11:53:00 -
[53] - Quote
Akirei Scytale wrote:Tablets are a ****** interface for gaming, to be completely frank. They could start a new, console-like market, with subgenres of games built to operate on simple control schemes on a touch-screen interface, but they aren't going to replace PCs.
The mouse + keyboard combination is pretty much ideal for gaming. It allows an absolutely massive number of buttons to be immediately accessible, and doesn't involve time-consuming gestures or anything of the like. That, and a PC can be high-performance with little worry about overheating. Cases are spacious and generally designed for ideal airflow. Tablets have to be extremely slim by design, meaning closely packed together components. This means anything taking full advantage of the hardware is going to put that hardware at risk during extended use.
I'll dare say the unspeakable: EVE is a close to ideal game for touch screen displays, as most of the interface functions on a point and click or drag and drop interaction. More swipes, less buttons and you're pretty much there. (Un)fortunately, the interface was never designed for small screens, which makes tablets suboptimal for actual gameplay, where loads of information needs to be presented on the same page. Had the UI been rewritten, it would work great, but it's not worth the resources considering other limitations of today's application of said screens.
Tldr: don't think in terms of what's available today. Less than a decade ago, few considered smartphone market and tablets were a failed sideproduct of notebook miniaturization attempts. Today, the world is changed. Imagine what we could have in another decade... |

Lupus Borealis
Lupus Borealis Trading
5
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Posted - 2013.02.27 12:08:00 -
[54] - Quote
I am not saying that EVE is ready for tablets.
I am not saying that tablets are ready for EVE.
I am saying that in future tablets and EVE can very well be together.
Samsung and others are developing rollable and foldable touch screen, for yet another example. Imagine having 15 inch rollable touchscreen for gaming. Talk about mobile gaming! You can already install EVE to Windows 8 tablet and play the game, but the game GUI isn't for tablets.
Basically CCP could make a tablet GUI, and enable EVE for Windows 8 tablets. They have intel HD 4000 graphics, wich are more than enough for this game.
But, since CCP isn't officially supporting Windows 8, I don't think that there are Windows 8 tablet GUI coming up.
Why CCP isn't supporting W8? Maybe they get into Valves bandwagon and hit Ubuntu and keep supporting W7. Maybe they want to wait and see how this situation evolves. Maybe even android.
ARM computers are getting more powerfull, for example new tegra 4 is quite badass.
We might be on the edge of M$ & intels era. Time will tell. I wouldn't mind on having something else than windows and intel!
Chill out grumpy old nerds. |

Lupus Borealis
Lupus Borealis Trading
5
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Posted - 2013.02.27 12:11:00 -
[55] - Quote
Caitlyn Tufy wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Tablets are a ****** interface for gaming, to be completely frank. They could start a new, console-like market, with subgenres of games built to operate on simple control schemes on a touch-screen interface, but they aren't going to replace PCs.
The mouse + keyboard combination is pretty much ideal for gaming. It allows an absolutely massive number of buttons to be immediately accessible, and doesn't involve time-consuming gestures or anything of the like. That, and a PC can be high-performance with little worry about overheating. Cases are spacious and generally designed for ideal airflow. Tablets have to be extremely slim by design, meaning closely packed together components. This means anything taking full advantage of the hardware is going to put that hardware at risk during extended use. I'll dare say the unspeakable: EVE is a close to ideal game for touch screen displays, as most of the interface functions on a point and click or drag and drop interaction. More swipes, less buttons and you're pretty much there. (Un)fortunately, the interface was never designed for small screens, which makes tablets suboptimal for actual gameplay, where loads of information needs to be presented on the same page. Had the UI been rewritten, it would work great, but it's not worth the resources considering other limitations of today's application of said screens. Tldr: don't think in terms of what's available today. Less than a decade ago, few considered smartphone market and tablets were a failed sideproduct of notebook miniaturization attempts. Today, the world is changed. Imagine what we could have in another decade... Yeah. Touchscreen controls beats kb&mouse 6-0. |

Eli Green
The Arrow Project
529
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Posted - 2013.02.27 12:15:00 -
[56] - Quote
Here it starts... Last gaming tablet hitting market...
this title is more appropriate imo. wumbo |

TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance
447
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Posted - 2013.02.27 12:17:00 -
[57] - Quote
Lupus Borealis wrote: Yeah. Touchscreen controls beats kb&mouse 6-0.
When touch screens solve the issues of
1) my finger being in the way 2) marks on the screen 3) mechanical resistance
I'll happily use them, otherwise, I hates them sooooo much |

Annihilious
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2013.02.27 12:26:00 -
[58] - Quote
Bah... I've had gaming tablets for years. Prescription Narcotics for Chronic Pain can make you feel gamey just sitting in a chair... |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
1108
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Posted - 2013.02.27 12:28:00 -
[59] - Quote
Why buy a tablet supposedly designed to play PC games ?
Load Splashtop server app on your PC. Load Splashtop client app on your Tablet. Run you favourite PC game on the PC as you normally would. Use your tablet with Splashtop controlling your PC. Video and Sound are streamed at full resolution, so what you see on your PC you will see on your Tablet, without lag. Streaming as opposed to standard Remote Control.
Not fun though, too fidgety to try play games on a tablet.
o7
Personnel Division Director --áBene Gesserit Chapterhouse
"The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another." - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Rek Seven
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
624
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Posted - 2013.02.27 12:41:00 -
[60] - Quote
Who needs a mouse and keyboard, right?
When i get on the train in the morning, all the girls are gonna think i'm so cool when they seem me with this  Is my bitter vet membership card in the mail? |
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Radamant Nemess
Caribbean Coke Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2013.02.27 12:53:00 -
[61] - Quote
1000 bucks for 10 inches? Hahahahaaaa... no, i don`t think so. Tenderness will crush your heart |

Lexmana
941
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Posted - 2013.02.27 12:58:00 -
[62] - Quote
Rek Seven wrote:Who needs a mouse and keyboard, right? When i get on the train in the morning, all the girls are gonna think i'm so cool when they seem me with this  Irony is difficult on the internet. |

Forum Clone 77777
State War Academy Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:03:00 -
[63] - Quote
Lexmana wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Who needs a mouse and keyboard, right? When i get on the train in the morning, all the girls are gonna think i'm so cool when they seem me with this  Irony is difficult on the internet. The real irony is that the new stuff coming out, such as "GAMING TABLETS" are in fact much worse, technically, but also ergonomically, than our old PCs.
And they cost as much, if not more. |

Bellatren Star
Emergent Advancements
12
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:08:00 -
[64] - Quote
Oh wow would love to own one of the top of the line models! One day it will happen. The day when the dark forces of M0o return to reclaim the galaxy and leave no man, woman or child alive... This... This will be the day the prophecy comes to pass. The end of New Eden. - Hershea's Prophecy, Chapter XIII. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13037
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:13:00 -
[65] - Quote
SoooGǪ it's like a MacBook Air only much much less convenient? Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |

Dante Uisen
Push button receive bacon
144
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:19:00 -
[66] - Quote
Tippia wrote:SoooGǪ it's like a MacBook Air only much much less convenient?
macbook air, most awesome game computer ever.... |

Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:26:00 -
[67] - Quote
Jensaro Koraka wrote:Lupus Borealis wrote: That ridiculous keyboard gets under 7% fail rate after 3 hours of use. Pretty nice from product that isnt even close to be released.
That's not possible. It's not even possible to move one's fingers that precisely without tactile feedback even if the tech to measure it existed. Let's see some proof. Even in the unlikely event that it is true, my physical keyboard gets a 0% fail rate after well over 6 hours. It also costs less and doesn't make you look silly.
My keyboard has about a 30% fail rate whenever I need to use the 'I' 'O' and 'P' keys, because the letters have all rubbed off, and its guesswork if I'm hitting the right one half of the time. **** knows how I would even write my name with some invisible keyboard  |

TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance
447
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:29:00 -
[68] - Quote
I wonder how long it'll take to ware through the screen if you were playing on it without the special needs cradle.
That's the good thing about desktops\laptops, a part breaks, you can replace it easily....laptops less so but you get what I mean. |

Tub Chil
Last Men Standing
33
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:34:00 -
[69] - Quote
right clicking on tablet seems fun |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
389
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:46:00 -
[70] - Quote
Lupus Borealis wrote:The old desktop PC will be gone in less than 5 years. I've been hearing this for the last 10 years. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
581
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:48:00 -
[71] - Quote
Crumplecorn wrote:Lupus Borealis wrote:The old desktop PC will be gone in less than 5 years. I've been hearing this for the last 10 years.
They have been reduced in number, maybe another 5 years will do it... GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13037
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:49:00 -
[72] - Quote
Dante Uisen wrote:Tippia wrote:SoooGǪ it's like a MacBook Air only much much less convenient? macbook air, most awesome game computer ever.... Well, hey, EVE runs on them, so obviouslyGǪ  Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3644
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Posted - 2013.02.27 13:57:00 -
[73] - Quote
TheBlueMonkey wrote:Baconarious Caesar wrote:Keep in mind it wasn't that long ago, "in the old days", when people said... No way I'm giving up VHS! Disks are stupid,trendy, and won't last...  Pretty sure no one said that about VHS. Pretty sure the second people realized that with DVD you didn't get that annoying hiss you used to get from VHS they started flying off the shelves. People did indeed turn up their nose at DVD's at first, as many were convinced it would never catch on and become main stream, DVD players were expensive at the time, and people were amused that you could not easily record shows to them (which many thought of as a huge step backwards).
Higher video and audio quality was not considered to be the end all be all argument, as Beta Max was superior to VHS in all ways, yet it folded to an inferior quality product (VHS).
Isn't it funny how we shape history to fit our current reality.  To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13037
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Posted - 2013.02.27 14:04:00 -
[74] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:Baconarious Caesar wrote:Keep in mind it wasn't that long ago, "in the old days", when people said... No way I'm giving up VHS! Disks are stupid,trendy, and won't last...  Pretty sure no one said that about VHS. Pretty sure the second people realized that with DVD you didn't get that annoying hiss you used to get from VHS they started flying off the shelves. People did indeed turn up their nose at DVD's at first, as many were convinced it would never catch on and become main stream, DVD players were expensive at the time, and people were amused that you could not easily record shows to them (which many thought of as a huge step backwards). Higher video and audio quality was not considered to be the end all be all argument, as Beta Max was superior to VHS in all ways, yet it folded to an inferior quality product (VHS). Isn't it funny how we shape history to fit our current reality.  GǪand anyway, what sold DVDs to the general public was the Playstation 2. Those nasty ebil good-for-nothing consoles!! 
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3644
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Posted - 2013.02.27 14:10:00 -
[75] - Quote
Now this would be interesting for EvE (or many other games), picture this.
You have your gaming PC and two or three nice large monitors (or perhaps your wall mounted wide screen TV) as your main system.
Main control remains keyboard and mouse (wireless).
But additionally you have your gaming tablet to the side or perhaps at a rather flat angle. On the tablet you have all of the interfaces, chat channels, inventory screens, coms, etc. that you would prefer not cluttering your main monitors... the things that it would be handy to move around, select and interact with on a touch screen.
I could also see the "Gaming Dock" being handy for FSP, especially if they did two things.
1: Make the Gaming Pad motion sensitive so that the game responds to how you move, turn and angle the pad itself... as well as to the twin game controller grips to either side.
2: Make the Gaming Dock have a heavy duty full motion pivot, so that the Game Pads weight was no longer a factor and allowed the twisting and turning motions mentioned above. FPS or Flight Sims would be a lot of fun on such a setup.
Baby steps, people, baby steps.  To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Jensaro Koraka
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.02.27 15:55:00 -
[76] - Quote
Baconarious Caesar wrote:Keep in mind it wasn't that long ago, "in the old days", when people said... No way I'm giving up VHS! Disks are stupid,trendy, and won't last...  In my defense, when I said that I was talking about Laser Discs and I was right. |

Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
324
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Posted - 2013.02.27 16:09:00 -
[77] - Quote
"...available for pre-order starting March 1st for $999 and up." "1366 x 768 pixel display" "Prices for the tablet alone can go as high as $1449..."
No full HD 1920x1080? Crack pipe price.
Please support: export of settings in editable format
Your stuff goes here. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2990
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Posted - 2013.02.27 16:13:00 -
[78] - Quote
Lupus Borealis wrote:Caitlyn Tufy wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Tablets are a ****** interface for gaming, to be completely frank. They could start a new, console-like market, with subgenres of games built to operate on simple control schemes on a touch-screen interface, but they aren't going to replace PCs.
The mouse + keyboard combination is pretty much ideal for gaming. It allows an absolutely massive number of buttons to be immediately accessible, and doesn't involve time-consuming gestures or anything of the like. That, and a PC can be high-performance with little worry about overheating. Cases are spacious and generally designed for ideal airflow. Tablets have to be extremely slim by design, meaning closely packed together components. This means anything taking full advantage of the hardware is going to put that hardware at risk during extended use. I'll dare say the unspeakable: EVE is a close to ideal game for touch screen displays, as most of the interface functions on a point and click or drag and drop interaction. More swipes, less buttons and you're pretty much there. (Un)fortunately, the interface was never designed for small screens, which makes tablets suboptimal for actual gameplay, where loads of information needs to be presented on the same page. Had the UI been rewritten, it would work great, but it's not worth the resources considering other limitations of today's application of said screens. Tldr: don't think in terms of what's available today. Less than a decade ago, few considered smartphone market and tablets were a failed sideproduct of notebook miniaturization attempts. Today, the world is changed. Imagine what we could have in another decade... Yeah. Touchscreen controls beats kb&mouse 6-0.
Bwahahahahaha.
No. touchscreens force you to *block part of the screen during use*, limit you to 1-2 inputs at a time, and have a minimum selection size (size of a fingertip). It is an inferior input design. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3648
|
Posted - 2013.02.27 16:35:00 -
[79] - Quote
Akirei Scytale wrote:Lupus Borealis wrote:Caitlyn Tufy wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Tablets are a ****** interface for gaming, to be completely frank. They could start a new, console-like market, with subgenres of games built to operate on simple control schemes on a touch-screen interface, but they aren't going to replace PCs.
The mouse + keyboard combination is pretty much ideal for gaming. It allows an absolutely massive number of buttons to be immediately accessible, and doesn't involve time-consuming gestures or anything of the like. That, and a PC can be high-performance with little worry about overheating. Cases are spacious and generally designed for ideal airflow. Tablets have to be extremely slim by design, meaning closely packed together components. This means anything taking full advantage of the hardware is going to put that hardware at risk during extended use. I'll dare say the unspeakable: EVE is a close to ideal game for touch screen displays, as most of the interface functions on a point and click or drag and drop interaction. More swipes, less buttons and you're pretty much there. (Un)fortunately, the interface was never designed for small screens, which makes tablets suboptimal for actual gameplay, where loads of information needs to be presented on the same page. Had the UI been rewritten, it would work great, but it's not worth the resources considering other limitations of today's application of said screens. Tldr: don't think in terms of what's available today. Less than a decade ago, few considered smartphone market and tablets were a failed sideproduct of notebook miniaturization attempts. Today, the world is changed. Imagine what we could have in another decade... Yeah. Touchscreen controls beats kb&mouse 6-0. Bwahahahahaha. No. touchscreens force you to *block part of the screen during use*, limit you to 1-2 inputs at a time, and have a minimum selection size (size of a fingertip). It is an inferior input design.
For actively selecting small targets, yes I agree.
However for most applications it is fine, especially when moving/selecting icons or text boxes around. Thus for many purposes, even in EvE or other games, a touch screen is practical and intuitive for many aspects of the game play... often superior to a mouse.
To be honest the best game interface (in many cases) would allow for mouse/keyboard "and" touch screen control... and a game controller or joystick would not go amiss in many games. Hybrid control interfaces are not far off, and frankly it won't be long before simple monitors without touch screen capability will be relegated to the budget bin. of your local electronics store.
Sure, in many situations you won't use it over keyboard/mouse... but as software (and as we can see, operating systems) become more touch screen friendly it will become a normal option.
Keep in mind we also have a whole new generation of consumers growing up right now that find using a touch screen on a phone or tablet to be as natural a breathing. Manufacturers are realizing this, and we are just now starting to fully see the impact on new products of all types. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
324
|
Posted - 2013.02.27 16:35:00 -
[80] - Quote
TheBlueMonkey wrote:Lupus Borealis wrote: Yeah. Touchscreen controls beats kb&mouse 6-0.
When touch screens solve the issues of 1) my finger being in the way 2) marks on the screen 3) mechanical resistance I'll happily use them, otherwise, I hates them sooooo much
A precision Teflon-tipped stylus would solve all three.
I have no idea why touchscreens went from stylus (think Palm Pilots) to fingers. Far less accurate. Please support: export of settings in editable format
Your stuff goes here. |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3648
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Posted - 2013.02.27 16:38:00 -
[81] - Quote
Palovana wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:Lupus Borealis wrote: Yeah. Touchscreen controls beats kb&mouse 6-0.
When touch screens solve the issues of 1) my finger being in the way 2) marks on the screen 3) mechanical resistance I'll happily use them, otherwise, I hates them sooooo much A precision Teflon-tipped stylus would solve all three. I have no idea why touchscreens went from stylus (think Palm Pilots) to fingers. Far less accurate.
Because you can do more motions/actions with your multiple digits than you can with a single point of contact like a stylus. It opens up more control options, and became much more practical as screen sizes grew larger. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Jensaro Koraka
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.02.27 16:42:00 -
[82] - Quote
Palovana wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:Lupus Borealis wrote: Yeah. Touchscreen controls beats kb&mouse 6-0.
When touch screens solve the issues of 1) my finger being in the way 2) marks on the screen 3) mechanical resistance I'll happily use them, otherwise, I hates them sooooo much A precision Teflon-tipped stylus would solve all three. I have no idea why touchscreens went from stylus (think Palm Pilots) to fingers. Far less accurate. Doesn't solve 1 and 3. |

Prekaz
The Gentlemen's Corporation
23
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Posted - 2013.02.27 16:48:00 -
[83] - Quote
Major 'Revolver' Ocelot wrote:[
Yet they continue to be outsold because of sheeple flocking to the next shiny.
Tablets outsell PCs because they're a better device for a larger number of people.
I don't see this particular tablet performing well, though, because it's actively working against most of the actual selling points of a tablet. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3648
|
Posted - 2013.02.27 16:50:00 -
[84] - Quote
One other interesting development in the pipe for touch screens is the ability to provide tactile feedback. In other words the screen can actually bump up or form a "pit" where the graphic for say an icon or other control would be, even allowing the important sense of contact and response than many people find necessary when working with something like a keyboard.
I have used a laser keyboard, where the device was simply a small USB box that projected a keyboard onto the surface of your desk. It was a bit disconcerting at first, even though you could turn on the option of hearing an audible click when you typed for each keystroke. However I'll admit I would be a lot more comfortable (even typing a text message on my phone) if I could actually feel a bump for each key I was pressing.
Point being, this simple advance could well make a separate keyboard go away... or at the very least become a fully customizable keyboard you can lay out any way you wish with a simple software selection (as we are starting to see at the electronics shows).
Things are rapidly changing my friends. Soon our kids will have that same somewhat condescending smirk on their faces that WE used to reserve for our parents when they stared blankly at a keyboard and mouse.  To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace That Red Alliance
447
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Posted - 2013.02.27 16:55:00 -
[85] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Isn't it funny how we shape history to fit our current reality. 
I remember always hating the hiss and degradation on VHS, always wondering why betamax never took off and then rushing out to get a DVD player for my PC the first chance I got.
Then much much later, getting a PS2.
I guess I'm just remembering history from my perspective :P |

T'Laar Bok
60
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Posted - 2013.02.27 16:59:00 -
[86] - Quote
Mr Epeen wrote:When a gaming tablet can beat my dual 27" monitors for gaming beauty, I will be the first in line.
When a gaming tablet can beat my quad 30". quad 27" and quad 19" monitors for gaming beauty, I will be the first in line. Amphetimines are your friend.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/T'Laar_Bok |
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