EVE Search - What is the community's opinion on permanent wardecs?

Amyclas Amatin wrote:

Anya Klibor wrote:

Amyclas Amatin wrote:

Skarned wrote:

I don't get it. Why should that suddenly become considered harassment?

I'd rather see E-Uni adapt and deal with it.

Tactically and strategically, E-Uni doesn't know how to deal with ganks. They only consider real war to be blob vs blob, or consensual war. We are **** at dealing with the guerrilla trade-hub ganker.

And... we complain that we can't catch kiting t3s and vagabonds.

The main problem is that our overall military organisation is ****. We might be able to field the deadliest roaming blobs ever, but we take a friggin 2 hours to mobilize 200 people. <- With 2 weeks notice.

In theory, our tactical pvp theories and doctrines are solid, but what we really need is fleet discipline and faster response times. We need mobilization drills and combat ship stockpiles.

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Permanent war decs, like bounties, prevent me from undocking and playing the game. Therefore, I deem it a griefer mechanic and should be fixed!

That's pretty much the attitude of most of the uni directors, most of whom live in high-sec.

In the EVE University philosophy, "legitimate PvP" is only happening when EVE University outnumbers the enemy a solid 5-to-1. They fear having any type of actual "fair" fight, or engaging people that might outnumber them.

Back when we dec'd EVE university (I think it was late-2011), Kelduum sent us a letter promising that he would unleash "500-man T1 cruisers complete with more Blackbirds than Goons could dream of". He lived up to it--in part. He brought more Blackbirds than anything. When we went against them to their home system, every docked. They stayed docked. When EVE university's POS was attacked, they exploited out of the war willingly. According to Kelduum ,"The POS is not and should never be considered a legal target."

Kelduum won't commit if it's blob vs. blob. That gives the enemy a chance to come out on top. His belief is that war decs should be a gentlemen's agreement, and no one should be able to dec EVE University without his say-so (look at how he created the EVE University dec shield). I've told hundreds of EVE University players: you don't learn to PvP in EVE University, you learn to be a sheep. I don't know of any FC who wants sheep unable to think for themselves except the massive null sec alliances who are constantly whining about no fights.

To shed some positive light on eve-university in their defense:

I believe that it has a great community and environment for learning pvp. - Which mostly involves living in the low or null campus and doing things on your own.

We have our pvp community... they just tend to stay clear of the high-sec blobs.

In the recent RvB war, low-sec campus stayed away from blob warfare for most of the war, and focused on shutting down enemy reinforcements. Which meant lots n lots of ganking, the smarter way to fight. We didn't want to bring battleships into fleets where every noobie is broadcasting for armor.