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Jaiell
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.27 02:34:00 -
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A duel ends when one of two conditions are met:
1.One or both of the participants' ships have been destroyed.
2.Exchange of fire ceases for more than five minutes, allowing the timer to run out, concluding the limited engagement period.
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So why did i get podded (40mil) Clone (13mil)...in 0.9 space. |
BadAssMcKill
Ghost Headquarters
The Ghost Army
128
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Posted - 2013.02.27 02:40:00 -
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Duels are limited engagements so you can and will be podded
Starships were meant to fly~ |
Lashenadeeka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2013.02.27 02:40:00 -
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Jaiell wrote:
1.One or both of the participants' ships have been destroyed.
2.Exchange of fire ceases for more than five minutes, allowing the timer to run out, concluding the limited engagement period.
If that's a direct quote of the in-game description then the description needs changed - it is misleading I agree.
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Arox Dax
Posthuman Society
10110001100111101000
35
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Posted - 2013.02.27 02:52:00 -
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Jaiell wrote:
So why did i get podded (40mil) Clone (13mil)...in 0.9 space.
Because that little squishy sound your pod makes just as it explodes into tiny little pieces is so addictive
Edited for crap spelling :P |
Jon Joringer
Zero-K
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Posted - 2013.02.27 02:58:00 -
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I see this happen all the time. Pods left sitting there, then blown up. I'm assuming a lot of people still don't know (or rather, a lot of people are still finding out) that Limited Engagements allow for podding. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
8242
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Posted - 2013.02.27 03:02:00 -
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I learned many years ago that if you're about to be in a pod you gtfo before someone can lock it and hope there are no smartbombs 
"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
311
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Posted - 2013.02.27 03:06:00 -
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Staying docked is a good way to avoid this unsavoury stuff
Fools and their Interstellar Kredits are Soon Parted. |
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
463
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Posted - 2013.02.27 03:08:00 -
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You can and probably will get podded after losing a duel.
I do agree that CCP isn't clear on this with the in-game instructions regarding a duel, it's rather misleading.
I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |
Jaiell
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.27 03:11:00 -
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I'm quite aware of the risks taken in PvP but when ccp state on their brag page that a duel ends when "One or both of the participants' ships have been destroyed." I expected to grats my challenger and head in for anouther ship. I have sent a petition but im guessing thousands have done the same....
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Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
311
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Posted - 2013.02.27 03:13:00 -
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like the lure of the choclate river was to Augustus in Willy Wonka's factory ?
Fools and their Interstellar Kredits are Soon Parted. |
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
8243
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Posted - 2013.02.27 03:23:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:You can and probably will get podded after losing a duel.
I do agree that CCP isn't clear on this with the in-game instructions regarding a duel, it's rather misleading.
It's the Eve way... "they'll figure it out when it happens and be better for it" approach is the best approach
"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3542
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Posted - 2013.02.27 03:34:00 -
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Jaiell wrote:A duel ends when one of two conditions are met:
1.One or both of the participants' ships have been destroyed.
2.Exchange of fire ceases for more than five minutes, allowing the timer to run out, concluding the limited engagement period.
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So why did i get podded (40mil) Clone (13mil)...in 0.9 space.
This is indeed quite unclear.
I can find no clarification in the Evelopedia entry nor the original Dev Blog.
But IF the Duel is over when one ship is destroyed, if you are podded, CONCORD should have responded, in my opinion, and removed the podder from their ship.
Did that even happen ?
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
fukier
RISE of LEGION
848
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Posted - 2013.02.27 03:49:00 -
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http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Crimewatch#Limited_Engagements
the way how a limited engagement works is its not tied to the ship but the player.
and since it creates a 5 minute window where two players can engage in legal hostilities (which is an agreement between two pod pilots and not two ships) it is up to said players to negotiate before the fight if its to the death or fist blood.
At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
274
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Posted - 2013.02.27 03:53:00 -
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Arox Dax wrote:Jaiell wrote:
So why did i get podded (40mil) Clone (13mil)...in 0.9 space.
Because that little squishy sound your pod makes just as it explodes into tiny little pieces is so addictive Edited for crap spelling :P
Wait, what? Eve has sound?
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
5481
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Posted - 2013.02.27 04:16:00 -
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So players can now officially pod each other in high security with no Concord reprisal and no security status hit if they're in a duel?
Heh, seems CCP conveniently forgot to include that little bit of information.
DMC |
Orlacc
265
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Posted - 2013.02.27 04:25:00 -
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Wait. Did Concord kill the other pilot after you were podded?
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
4066
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Posted - 2013.02.27 04:25:00 -
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ANY condition in which you can attack another player legally also allows you to pod them legally.
In ANY area of space.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
3135
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Posted - 2013.02.27 04:43:00 -
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The feature page on the Retribution site does indeed state that the engagement is supposed to end when the ship is destroyed.
The patch notes and In Development video state quite clearly that a limited engagement is in force for the purposes of duelling. Of course not many people will be aware that a limited engagement applied between two pilots, not two spaceships.
So the Retribution features page really does need to be updated.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Klyde
Big Diggers
Trifectas Syndicate
0
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Posted - 2013.02.27 04:50:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:So players can now officially pod each other in high security with no Concord reprisal and no security status hit if they're in a duel?
Heh, seems CCP conveniently forgot to include that little bit of information.
DMC
awesome, i hated the fact duels were brought into the game, but this makes it a bit better  |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics
CODE.
27
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Posted - 2013.02.27 05:03:00 -
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I like the way CCP implemented duels into EVE. They don't even really matter, per se.
It's even more fun when people swear to you that starting a duel prevents other people from interfering, stops at the pod, and (best so far) ends at 1 struct.
This is EVE. E-bushido is out the window. If i can convince you to restrict yourself to some silly rules like "1v1", I'm bringing 5 bros to explod you.
315 4 CSM8! |
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1460
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Posted - 2013.02.27 05:03:00 -
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lol i remember when my space elf hussar was standing in front of ogrimar and i dueled an orc warmaster and he won and I was like wtf |
Raiz Nhell
Kangaroo Ate my baby
Orchestrated Alliance
238
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Posted - 2013.02.27 05:27:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:I like the way CCP implemented duels into EVE. They don't even really matter, per se.
It's even more fun when people swear to you that starting a duel prevents other people from interfering, stops at the pod, and (best so far) ends at 1 struct.
This is EVE. E-bushido is out the window. If i can convince you to restrict yourself to some silly rules like "1v1", I'm bringing 5 bros to explod you.
Yep... expecting a fight fair is setting yourself up for a defeat...
I do not want to enter into a fight where I have a 50% chance of losing... I want to identify the enemy weaknesses, then take advantage of them mercilessly, then invite mates to take advantage of those weaknesses.
The enemy will always attack under two conditions:
1. When they are ready.
2. When you are not.
There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage. |
Aren Madigan
EVE University
Ivy League
137
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Posted - 2013.02.27 05:32:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:You can and probably will get podded after losing a duel.
I do agree that CCP isn't clear on this with the in-game instructions regarding a duel, it's rather misleading. It's the Eve way... "they'll figure it out when it happens and be better for it" approach is the best approach
Maybe, but there's a difference between that, and flat out lying about a game mechanic which sounds like is the current state of things. Not just misleading, as it says specifically after one or both ships are destroyed. |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
446
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Posted - 2013.02.27 05:43:00 -
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Jaiell wrote:I'm quite aware of the risks taken in PvP but when ccp state on their brag page that a duel ends when "One or both of the participants' ships have been destroyed." I expected to grats my challenger and head in for anouther ship. I have sent a petition but im guessing thousands have done the same....
Expecting CCP to provide information on game mechanics may be asking too much.....I'm not sure they know what's happening themselves...
However, Pods have been free game since Crimewatch, in any type of limited engagement.
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dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep
Silent Requiem
49
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Posted - 2013.02.27 06:13:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:This isn't Goldshire.
Where?
Is that the new 0.0 region coming soon? |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1034
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Posted - 2013.02.27 06:41:00 -
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See this thread, CCP? This is why you don't try to shoehorn dumbass WoW features into a full-on PVP game.
"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2896
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Posted - 2013.02.27 07:05:00 -
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Aren Madigan wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:It's the Eve way... "they'll figure it out when it happens and be better for it" approach is the best approach Maybe, but there's a difference between that, and flat out lying about a game mechanic which sounds like is the current state of things. Not just misleading, as it says specifically after one or both ships are destroyed.
Surfin's point was that CCP does this kind of thing constantly.
It used to be that CCP official information sources were among the least reliable around.
Anyway, I agree that the Features page (and anywhere else that says that the LE ends at a ship being destroyed) should be changed to reflect how the game actually works. Or simply removed. I'm perfectly fine with "we've introduced a thing called dueling. It's up to you to figure out how it works. We put in a bunch of fun stuff in corner cases for you to find."
This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
229
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Posted - 2013.02.27 09:23:00 -
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TIL how aggression mechanics work! |
Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
74
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Posted - 2013.02.27 09:29:00 -
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Boom Boom Longtime wrote:Staying docked is a good way to avoid this unsavoury stuff
I also follow in Boom's footsteps and only stay docked whilst I train skills.
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Getsafe Aisak
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.02.27 10:00:00 -
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In my honest opinion engaging in a duel should flag you to be automatically insta-podded whenever you undock as long as your account is active. |
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