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Malcolm Khross
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
617
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Posted - 2013.02.28 12:35:00 -
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Congratulations on breaking the ice in PvP, the first step is always the hardest and definitely the most important. Seeking the answers will definitely help you out more than getting frustrated and remaining confused, so props on that as well.
Your positive attitude combined with your willingness to seek answers and be a little dangerous is what will make you a fantastic pilot, keep it up. Also yes, most of us suck at this game, so trying to learn what you can learn will make you significantly better than most other players.
Good luck out there in space and if you ever want some PvP practice you can always find me in space and duel, I'm not the greatest PvPer out there but we all have lessons we can share. ~Malcolm Khross
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
2907
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Posted - 2013.02.28 16:09:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:All these silly rules. I love the minimalism of nullsec.
No special rules, no silly sec loss, no worrying. Just shoot and the worst that can happen is you can't jump for a bit. I've come to look at it this way:
Highsec is like boxing, lowsec is like MMA, and nullsec is like a drunken brawl. They're all legitimate ways of fighting. Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
911
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Posted - 2013.02.28 16:17:00 -
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Mymuff Tutuff wrote:I'm a serious newb, so bear with me. I'm also no PvP'er [EDIT: means I'm no pro when it comes to PvP]. At this point in my career, I'm simply a flying joke.
... I opened fire on him and hit him with 5 or 6 volleys of all 8 lasers before he knew what hit him. ...Fortunately, I lived.
EVE. You're doing it right. Congraqtulations on your 'fangs out' approach.  Further congratulations on your reflexes and ability to think clearly. 
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:Hi there! It was me you aggressed. ... I hope you enjoyed the little encounter. I wouldn't have killed you due to your age, but I do like to send newbs scurrying when they aggress. The bounty you pointed out is because I have a tendency to **** people off.
Fly safe, and enjoy a nice little isk bonus!
Tah'ris Classy. +1

Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2991
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Posted - 2013.02.28 22:14:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:All these silly rules. I love the minimalism of nullsec.
No special rules, no silly sec loss, no worrying. Just shoot and the worst that can happen is you can't jump for a bit. I've come to look at it this way: Highsec is like boxing, lowsec is like MMA, and nullsec is like a drunken brawl. They're all legitimate ways of fighting.
I find this is a better metaphor:
Highsec is like a hunting preserve. Yeah, there's game, but there's no hunt and you have to pay fees when you're done.
Lowsec is like the woods around a city. You run into the occasional wild animal but need a licence and it isn't free.
Nullsec is like the true wilderness. No rules, and you best be able to hunt, because you aren't on top of the foodchain anymore. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Mon Diddies
Corporate Scum Test Friends Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2013.02.28 22:33:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Clara Stewart wrote:Quite simply. YOU ARE A NOOBLET A nooblet that tried. She's already leagues beyond most of the EvE playerbase!
id say leagues behind, since firing a weapon and not understanding how it works. Dont believe anything you read, and only half of what you see. To be fair dont trust what you hear either.!!!!!!! TINFOIL ACTIVATE!!!!!!!!! |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
916
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Posted - 2013.02.28 22:38:00 -
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Mon Diddies wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Clara Stewart wrote:Quite simply. YOU ARE A NOOBLET A nooblet that tried. She's already leagues beyond most of the EvE playerbase! id say leagues behind, since firing a weapon and not understanding how it works. "Not understanding" is pretty much the definition of 'n00b.' But by even trying, and then seeking answers to those things that aren't understood? LIGHT YEARS beyond those who never try at all. Many of whom have been playing for years.
Crapping on a n00b who demonstrates such admirable characteristics, however? D+¬class+¬. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |

Minerva Zen
Swords of Valor
21
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Posted - 2013.02.28 22:42:00 -
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Mymuff Tutuff wrote: I'm a nooblet. I'm noob-cakes. I'm noob-escent.
I propose Noobling.  |

Mark Munoz
Schwarzschild Casimir Collective STR8NGE BREW
77
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Posted - 2013.02.28 23:07:00 -
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Tah'ris Khlador wrote:Hi there! It was me you aggressed.
You gained the following three timers:
1. Limited Engagement
As soon as you aggress a legal target, you gain a limited engagement timer. This can also be created by accepting a duel request. It essentially just gives you 5 mins to extend the engagement with the target and allows you to shoot freely without goign suspect or criminal yourself.
2. Weapons Timer
Any aggressive action you take will earn you a weapons timer of 1 minute. This timer will prevent you from docking, jumping (except WHs), ejecting, or switching ships. Performing logistics that would generate any timer for you will also earn a weapons timer (I.E. inheriting one for remote repairing someone else)
3. Log-off Timer
Any aggressive action done to you or by you will generate a 15 minute timer that will prevent you from logging off safely in space. If you have to log off in space, you always want to make sure this goes away first or you may find yourself dead. An exception might be logging off in a POS.
I hope you enjoyed the little encounter. I wouldn't have killed you due to your age, but I do like to send newbs scurrying when they aggress. The bounty you pointed out is because I have a tendency to **** people off.
Fly safe, and enjoy a nice little isk bonus!
Tah'ris
I vote you win EVE Player of the Week. |

Aaldari
The Flying Dead Dauntless.
0
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Posted - 2013.02.28 23:38:00 -
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It's refreshing to see people trying out things that can get them blown up and coming here to ask good questions afterwards. |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3145
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Posted - 2013.03.01 00:37:00 -
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Mymuff Tutuff wrote: [ sensible review of a situation accompanied by a sensible question ]
You're doing it right! Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Sidrat Flush
The Praxis Initiative Gentlemen's Agreement
126
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Posted - 2013.03.01 01:15:00 -
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I would appreciate it if you could join my corps public channel PRAX - your thread will be an inspiration to all potential applicants to our corp.
I also can't believe I'm the first to do it in this thread. The new home of the Eve Industrial Organiser is here. Enjoy the first in a series, EIO:Refinery now http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/Sidrat/ Read about it http://eveindustrialorganiser.blogspot.co.uk/?m=0 |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4086
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Posted - 2013.03.01 01:17:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote: All these silly rules. I love the minimalism of nullsec.
No special rules, no silly sec loss, no worrying. Just shoot and the worst that can happen is you can't jump for a bit.
Last I checked two out of those three timers still apply in nullsec and have the same exact effect. Malcanis for CSM 8 Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |

Celestra Doxaila
MinTek Heavy Industries
49
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Posted - 2013.03.01 01:47:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:All these silly rules. I love the minimalism of nullsec.
No special rules, no silly sec loss, no worrying. Just shoot and the worst that can happen is you can't jump for a bit. I've come to look at it this way: Highsec is like boxing, lowsec is like MMA, and nullsec is like a drunken brawl. They're all legitimate ways of fighting.
So this means wspace is like ninjas. Stealth bombers everywhere!
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
922
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Posted - 2013.03.01 01:54:00 -
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Celestra Doxaila wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:All these silly rules. I love the minimalism of nullsec.
No special rules, no silly sec loss, no worrying. Just shoot and the worst that can happen is you can't jump for a bit. I've come to look at it this way: Highsec is like boxing, lowsec is like MMA, and nullsec is like a drunken brawl. They're all legitimate ways of fighting. So this means wspace is like ninjas. Stealth bombers everywhere! Heh. Some fairly clueless ninjas, at times. I've seen folks bomb themselves. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3426
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:10:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Celestra Doxaila wrote:So this means wspace is like ninjas. Stealth bombers everywhere! Heh. Some fairly clueless ninjas, at times. I've seen folks bomb themselves. They of course were MWDing into their own bombs and died, right?
Tell me they died. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Celestra Doxaila
MinTek Heavy Industries
49
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:16:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:silens vesica wrote:Celestra Doxaila wrote:So this means wspace is like ninjas. Stealth bombers everywhere! Heh. Some fairly clueless ninjas, at times. I've seen folks bomb themselves. They of course were MWDing into their own bombs and died, right? Tell me they died.
Sadly it usually takes more than one bomb to take out a frigate. And anyone that is clueless enough to bomb themselves probably wouldn't be able to execute a coordinated multi-bomb attack. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3426
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:19:00 -
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Celestra Doxaila wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:silens vesica wrote:Celestra Doxaila wrote:So this means wspace is like ninjas. Stealth bombers everywhere! Heh. Some fairly clueless ninjas, at times. I've seen folks bomb themselves. They of course were MWDing into their own bombs and died, right? Tell me they died. Sadly it usually takes more than one bomb to take out a frigate. And anyone that is clueless enough to bomb themselves probably wouldn't be able to execute a coordinated multi-bomb attack. I know pretty well that if you have a hound MWD into its own bomb it will blow up.
If your MWD is not on then the bomb damages you then you will survive. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
923
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:21:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Celestra Doxaila wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:silens vesica wrote:Celestra Doxaila wrote:So this means wspace is like ninjas. Stealth bombers everywhere! Heh. Some fairly clueless ninjas, at times. I've seen folks bomb themselves. They of course were MWDing into their own bombs and died, right? Tell me they died. Sadly it usually takes more than one bomb to take out a frigate. And anyone that is clueless enough to bomb themselves probably wouldn't be able to execute a coordinated multi-bomb attack. I know pretty well that if you have a hound MWD into its own bomb it will blow up. If your MWD is not on then the bomb damages you then you will survive. They died.  MWD + Bomb = Insurance payout. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |

Celestra Doxaila
MinTek Heavy Industries
49
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Posted - 2013.03.01 02:24:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Celestra Doxaila wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:silens vesica wrote:Celestra Doxaila wrote:So this means wspace is like ninjas. Stealth bombers everywhere! Heh. Some fairly clueless ninjas, at times. I've seen folks bomb themselves. They of course were MWDing into their own bombs and died, right? Tell me they died. Sadly it usually takes more than one bomb to take out a frigate. And anyone that is clueless enough to bomb themselves probably wouldn't be able to execute a coordinated multi-bomb attack. I know pretty well that if you have a hound MWD into its own bomb it will blow up. If your MWD is not on then the bomb damages you then you will survive.
Guess I was just unlucky and his MWD cycled off before my bomb went off.
Glad the other guy's died, however. :) |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1044
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Posted - 2013.03.01 08:32:00 -
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Mymuff Tutuff, don't let the trolls get to you. They're trolls. It's what they do. It's all they do. EvE Forum Bingo |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2991
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Posted - 2013.03.01 09:04:00 -
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Celestra Doxaila wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:silens vesica wrote:Celestra Doxaila wrote:So this means wspace is like ninjas. Stealth bombers everywhere! Heh. Some fairly clueless ninjas, at times. I've seen folks bomb themselves. They of course were MWDing into their own bombs and died, right? Tell me they died. Sadly it usually takes more than one bomb to take out a frigate. And anyone that is clueless enough to bomb themselves probably wouldn't be able to execute a coordinated multi-bomb attack.
Not when MWDing. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Mymuff Tutuff
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2013.03.02 11:36:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Mymuff Tutuff, don't let the trolls get to you. They're trolls. It's what they do. It's all they do.
Sort of like that line in the Terminator, eh? "And they absolutely will not stop, EVER, until you are trolled into oblivion!"
So to update this thread with yet another boring nooblet story for anyone interested in the life of a noob.
So yesterday I was flying around and saw a ship I'd never seen before leaving a station. I looked it up and it was some kind of npc convoy ship. In fact, a convoy was apparently forming to shuttle stuff from one station to another. I quickly pulled up some web pages to read about how this all works. It seems that they are only safe to attack under certain conditions, those conditions being they are entering a station vs. leaving one, and the station owner is the 'right one' so to speak.
At any rate I followed this convoy to where it was going. As it was arriving at the destination I wasn't 100% sure the sender wasn't also the receiver, but decided "NO GUTS NO GLORY!" so opened fire with the same destroyer in the first story. No station guns fired on me, I was able to kill all 4 ships.
There was way too much booty to fit into my cargo space (that's what SHE said... when pulling on her pants, heh), so I was making runs back and forth to offload it at a station, when lo and behold I see another ship displaying curiosity in my booty (I mean pirate booty, of course). I didn't like this of course, and since this thread taught me to study and memorize the rules of engagement in hi-sec, I knew that if he tried to touch my booty (pirate booty of course), he'd be flagged suspect. What's a girl to do? Decisions decisions.
First off, didn't want to bite off more than I could chew ("that's what she said!" - oh stop it already!) like I did with the first engagement, so I pulled up info on his ship. It was a Gallente destroyer, so at least I wasn't outmatched on the ship vs. ship side of the equation. Did this guy even know I was watching him from a distance? Didn't know. I locked onto him (does he get a signal when I do that?) and pressed 'keep at distance' to about 25 kilometers, which my guns are ranged to.
I saw a flashing on and off as he was next to one shipwreck. Ah, salvaging. But will he take the next step to stealing? I decided a moving target might be better than stationary, so I changed 'keep at distance' to 'orbit at distance.' My trigger finger was getting itchy. It was then that I thought "I came to chew bubble gum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubble gum."
Unfortunately, this story ends with a whimper rather than a bang. He simply salvaged all the wrecks and then warped out. But hey, at least I tried! |

Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
319
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Posted - 2013.03.02 12:08:00 -
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Mymuff Tutuff wrote: First off, didn't want to bite off more than I could chew ("that's what she said!" - oh stop it already!) like I did with the first engagement, so I pulled up info on his ship. It was a Gallente destroyer, so at least I wasn't outmatched on the ship vs. ship side of the equation. Did this guy even know I was watching him from a distance? Didn't know. I locked onto him (does he get a signal when I do that?) and pressed 'keep at distance' to about 25 kilometers, which my guns are ranged to.
Anyone you start to target lock will see it on their overview, unless you have a Passive Targeter module fitted. |

Mymuff Tutuff
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2013.03.02 12:11:00 -
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Takseen wrote:Anyone you start to target lock will see it on their overview, unless you have a Passive Targeter module fitted.
Ahh, good info. Perhaps that's why he didn't steal. Next time I won't lock. |

bbb2020
Carebears with Attitude
41
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Posted - 2013.03.02 12:35:00 -
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You tell some good stories bro and you seem too like to tell them. Maybe, just maybe you should consider making a blog about your endeavors in New eden. you'll have at least one follower.
On another note. What kind of drop did you get from the convoy. Have always wondered but never gotten around to shooting one myself. |

Mymuff Tutuff
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2013.03.02 12:44:00 -
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bbb2020 wrote:You tell some good stories bro
Bro-ette.
Quote:On another note. What kind of drop did you get from the convoy. Have always wondered but never gotten around to shooting one myself.
It was stuff worth a million or two. Consisted of water, antibiotics, batteries, nuclear waste, garbage, a stack of books written by the Amarr emperor, soil, and maybe a few other things. |

Xearal
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
493
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Posted - 2013.03.02 14:01:00 -
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Quote: I sent you a small quantity of isk as a leg up once I saw your forum post. People who help themselves, deserve respect. Posting and seeking out the answer early on in your career shows you'll probably go far in EVE.
THIS.. Eve is not about 'being super carefull and creeping around', Eve is about going out there and enjoying yourself, trying whatever tickles your fancy. Sometimes you win some, sometimes you lose everything, but that's part of the game.
Like the intro in the game says, your ability to survive in New Eden rests on your ability to be Bold. Dare to Be Bold, pilot.
And you dear OP noob-cakes, are on that road. The only real experience that matters in Eve is not skillpoints, not wealth, but Player Experience. Something you can't buy or train for. It's attained by DOING things.
Welcome to Eve.
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
944
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Posted - 2013.03.02 14:51:00 -
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Mymuff Tutuff wrote:bbb2020 wrote:You tell some good stories bro Bro-ette. Quote:On another note. What kind of drop did you get from the convoy. Have always wondered but never gotten around to shooting one myself. It was stuff worth a million or two. Consisted of water, antibiotics, batteries, nuclear waste, garbage, a stack of books written by the Amarr emperor, soil, and maybe a few other things. EDIT: also dairy products and frozen food. Ah. Collectables.  No real value, but everyone has some of that stuff littering up their hold. You're thinking, and more importantly, you're researching and doing your homework before pulling the trigger. Well done. I predict great things for you. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3433
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Posted - 2013.03.02 14:58:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Celestra Doxaila wrote:Sadly it usually takes more than one bomb to take out a frigate. And anyone that is clueless enough to bomb themselves probably wouldn't be able to execute a coordinated multi-bomb attack. Not when MWDing. The microwarpdrive, the best module ever to have on while you are about to be hit by ~a thing~ that does damage based on your signature radius.
(Bomb, missiles, etc etc) Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
1263
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Posted - 2013.03.02 15:04:00 -
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This thread is so awesome, I just want to hug it. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
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