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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.02.04 18:29:00 -
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Tahnil wrote:Skutter Midumulf wrote:Katrinya wrote:Where the bloody heck is CREST?
Why even bother this dead horse of an API? This. Not this.
With a delayed answer:
There's no reason to get rid of this API, when CREST eventually becomes available. If /all/ you are doing is providing a regular content download, then it's appropriate and probably lighter weight.
CREST will be somewhat harder to implement, than the 'grab a page. stick it in an xml parser and play with the results'.
They both have their place.
Of course, I still want CREST to come out. But it's a very different beast of a thing.
Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
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Kossaw
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.02.06 00:45:00 -
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Skutter Midumulf wrote:Katrinya wrote:Where the bloody heck is CREST?
Why even bother this dead horse of an API? This.
Remember the chaos when CCP finally killed the old API system and you had to move to new CAK's ? Can you even imagine having to re-write every single 3rd party application out there from API into CREST ( not to mention REST isn't at all necessary when the only thing you are doing is reading from the server )
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rswfire
Firesworn
Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2014.02.06 04:26:00 -
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CCP Prism X wrote:WONTDO List:
Planetary Interaction API - Data schema simply incompatible with API.
Would you please reconsider your position on this one?
In our case, what would be helpful is knowing what planets a character has command centers, what type of extractors they are using, and when they are scheduled to stop running. Maybe beyond that just a list of assets (commodities extracted) that can be brought up to a Customs Office. This would go a long way toward making it possible for us to create tools that help us keep track of PI installations -- on a personal level, we can make sure we're re-installing our extractor programs when they finish -- on a group level, such as a corp or alliance, it would help us better manage projects where many people are helping to "chip in" with different commodities toward a common end.
I am a programmer also and I don't understand what you are saying when you say "data schema incompatible with API." It should not be difficult to return the above information via XML. I simply can't think of a single scenario where it would be so difficult it would be on a "won't do list." Trying to implement the complex routes, etc., would most definitely be a challenge, but most of us do not need that. With the advent of POCOs, this becomes an even more important aspect of Eve that is missing from the API. I did some Googling and this has been asked for years and years now, so the community would like this ability. Please reconsider your stance on this.
It doesn't have to be complicated -- some basic data is enough to give us 95% of use cases.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw
http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.07 20:09:00 -
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rswfire wrote:CCP Prism X wrote:WONTDO List:
Planetary Interaction API - Data schema simply incompatible with API. Would you please reconsider your position on this one? It doesn't have to be complex. In our case, what would be helpful is knowing what planets a character has command centers, what commodities are being extracted or produced, and the time until those extractors are scheduled to end. Maybe beyond that just a list of assets (commodities) that can be transported to a Customs Office. This would go a long way toward making it possible for us to create tools that help us keep track of PI installations. On a personal level, we can make sure we're re-installing our extractor programs when they finish. Currently, there is no way to automate this like you would with EveMon and your skill queue. On a group level, such as a corp or alliance, it would help us better manage projects where many people are "chipping in" different commodities toward a common end. I don't understand what you are saying when you say "data schema incompatible with API." The API outputs XML. What data is not compatible with XML? I can understand that it might be more challenging to represent a complete PI installation in XML, but you are already doing this in your databases or PI wouldn't even exist. But putting that aside, most of us do not need anything that complicated. With the advent of POCOs, this becomes an even more important aspect of Eve that is missing from the API. You guys have been great at providing us with important data we can use, but this is one area that has been neglected. I did some Googling and this has been asked for since as early as 2011, so it is needed/wanted. Please reconsider your stance on this. It doesn't have to be complicated -- some basic data is enough for 95% of the ways in which it would likely be used.
I make ZERO promises, but I will at least talk to CCP PrisimX and see what might possibly be possible. I have no idea, but I will ask some questions.
CCP FoxFour // Game Designer
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Ideki
E.A.D Alliance
Omega Vector
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Posted - 2014.02.11 13:44:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:rswfire wrote:CCP Prism X wrote:WONTDO List:
Planetary Interaction API - Data schema simply incompatible with API. Would you please reconsider your position on this one? It doesn't have to be complex. In our case, what would be helpful is knowing what planets a character has command centers, what commodities are being extracted or produced, and the time until those extractors are scheduled to end. Maybe beyond that just a list of assets (commodities) that can be transported to a Customs Office. This would go a long way toward making it possible for us to create tools that help us keep track of PI installations. On a personal level, we can make sure we're re-installing our extractor programs when they finish. Currently, there is no way to automate this like you would with EveMon and your skill queue. On a group level, such as a corp or alliance, it would help us better manage projects where many people are "chipping in" different commodities toward a common end. I don't understand what you are saying when you say "data schema incompatible with API." The API outputs XML. What data is not compatible with XML? I can understand that it might be more challenging to represent a complete PI installation in XML, but you are already doing this in your databases or PI wouldn't even exist. But putting that aside, most of us do not need anything that complicated. With the advent of POCOs, this becomes an even more important aspect of Eve that is missing from the API. You guys have been great at providing us with important data we can use, but this is one area that has been neglected. I did some Googling and this has been asked for since as early as 2011, so it is needed/wanted. Please reconsider your stance on this. It doesn't have to be complicated -- some basic data is enough for 95% of the ways in which it would likely be used. I make ZERO promises, but I will at least talk to CCP PrisimX and see what might possibly be possible. I have no idea, but I will ask some questions.
Thank you.
Please we count on you for this.
Be our Champion. 
Creator of The EVE Planetary Planner and The EVE Ships Skills Planner
Author of Immortal Warriors |
Quesa
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.02.13 18:33:00 -
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PLEASE add corporation and alliance tickers to the new API. I, and some others, tend to use the ticker for displaying information over the entire name string and in order to get the info for both corporation and alliance you have to hit the api server 2 more times.
The current implementation of the AllianceList seems very inefficient. I don't know anyone that really needs a complete list of each Alliance in the game. It makes more sense to me to allow a developer to query information on a single alliance instead of downloading the entire XML sheet each time we want to update the data. |
rswfire
Firesworn
Firesworn Nation
165
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Posted - 2014.02.14 03:00:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:I make ZERO promises, but I will at least talk to CCP PrisimX and see what might possibly be possible. I have no idea, but I will ask some questions.
Thank you. I can see why the DUST community admires you so much.
I really appreciate your willingness to look into this. Something else crossed my mind after I read your post: there would also be value in being able to query the tax rates and owners of the POCOs for different planets. Perhaps a separate query for planetary information in a solar system? If I could query a system and get a list of planets, their types, and the POCO rates, there is a lot we can do with that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw
http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
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Tahnil
Sirius Fleet
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Posted - 2014.02.14 12:17:00 -
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rswfire wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:I make ZERO promises, but I will at least talk to CCP PrisimX and see what might possibly be possible. I have no idea, but I will ask some questions.
Thank you. I can see why the DUST community admires you so much. I really appreciate your willingness to look into this. Something else crossed my mind after I read your post: there would also be value in being able to query the tax rates and owners of the POCOs for different planets. Perhaps a separate query for planetary information in a solar system? If I could query a system and get a list of planets, their types, and the POCO rates, there is a lot we can do with that.
I donGÇÿt like the idea of querying the API for the owners of customs offices. Why? Just try to imagine how nullsec alliances would react to the proposal to allow API calls for who has got a POS on some moon. This would be free and very convenient intel for everybody who is interested in "acquiring" this spot.
I have no problem with other planetary data and tax rates being available via API though. |
rswfire
Firesworn
Firesworn Nation
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:26:00 -
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Tahnil wrote:I donGÇÿt like the idea of querying the API for the owners of customs offices. Why? Just try to imagine how nullsec alliances would react to the proposal to allow API calls for who has got a POS on some moon. This would be free and very convenient intel for everybody who is interested in "acquiring" this spot.
I have no problem with other planetary data and tax rates being available via API though.
Querying the owner of a POCO is not the same thing as querying data on a moon with a POS. They are wholly separate things. POCOs are planet-wide structures; the moons are not even relevant in this context.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw
http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
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