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Posted - 2005.08.10 20:12:00 -
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Ok I have level 1 cloaking and a level 1 cloaking device.
1) I can not warp while cloaked.
2) I can move but very very very slowly.
3) I can not turn my cloak on once I have been targeted.
4) I can not turn my cloak on if I am IN THE PROCESS of being targeted.
I can't really travel with it. I can't do anything while cloaked. I can't use it to hide and run from an attacker. I can't really target anything within a decent amount of time after uncloaking. I can't stay cloaked if I am near pretty much anything. As far as I can tell the only thing it is useful for is sitting in the middle of nowhere doing nothing. Which is useless.
So I am posting here to hear some examples of situations where a level 1 cloaking device on a non-covert-ops ship would be useful. I'd really love what the people who implemented it inteded it's use to be.
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Posted - 2005.08.10 20:28:00 -
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 Originally by: Maestra Jsun
Edited by: Maestra Jsun on 10/08/2005 20:19:49
Edited by: Maestra Jsun on 10/08/2005 20:18:12
Lovin' those level 1 skills. ;)
Example: You are sitting at a belt cloaked. Your mates are just a moon away.
One nicely fitted barge, or let us say a hauler, warps to your general position. You approach as close as possible, your mates gang warp to you. Blam-O!
How do you know what belt to sit in? Why, all of them! Get more covert op ships and pilots...cloak camp every belt in the system.
Ok. A few problems with this idea.
1) When your cloaked you can move at the rate of less than 30 or 40m a second. So to go even 10K would take you 10 minutes.
2) No one can see you when you are cloaked. So how would your corp mates know where you are at all?
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Posted - 2005.08.10 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
You were suggesting uber ideas for cloaking in a thread in the ideas discussion.
Now you tell us you've only just trained it to level 1.
That's a bit arse about face isn't it?
I wasn't aware that you had to have certain level requirements to have ideas.
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Posted - 2005.08.12 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Rodge
Originally by: Noriath
The most idiotic thing about cloaking is that you can't recloak while the enemies are trying to lock you up. Basicly if they have time to click you a multi-million ISK piece of equipment is instantly rendered useless. How stupid is that? 
You can cloak while you're being targetted.
You can't cloak when you have been targetted.
Makes perfect sense to me, otherwise cloaking ships would be invincible.
Your wrong, you can't cloak while BEING targeted. So as was said, the minute someone clicks on your ship your cloak is useless.
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Posted - 2005.08.12 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Guardian Alpha
If you can't cloak because you are locked, try ECM jamming them to break their lock. Or better yet, sensor dampen them that way you are too far away for them to even lock you.
Oh really?
When something targets me the second they start I hear a sound, followed by a flashing target with a timer on it. During this time they do not have a lock on me. When the timer is up their picture appears in the upper right and they have me locked. As long as that timer is going and the picture does not appear, I have not been locked on to.
Please view the follow screenshot
Now as you can see the time is clearly still going for another 49.105 seconds. Their picture is not in the upper right corner. You will also notice the very clear message on the screen.. You cannot cloak your ship as you are BEING targeted by someone.
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Posted - 2005.08.12 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Octavius Omega
Just to clarify some things for you:
1)The yellow boxes around the NPC ships show that they have ALREADY locked on to you, but have not started firing. The Square turns red when they have ACTUALLY started firing. They DO have an active lock. Therefore, preventing you from cloaking.
2) The locktime you are seeing is your remaining time until YOU have locked the NPC frigate.
Then how come they never start firing until the counter goes off?
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