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Venom Queen
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Posted - 2005.08.11 09:12:00 -
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Okay, mining is boring so I try my hand at some level 4 missions after the missile nerf.
The mission I get is Angel Extraveganza - I love this mission
I first try it in the Raven. OMG!!! Impossible now.
I buy an Apocalypse and fit 2 Large Armour Repairer II's - They still own me.
I call in 2 mates to help and the rats still rip thru 1600 HP of repair on my ship like it's just butter.
My wingmen can't stick around for 2 hours or more doing this stuff. I end up rejecting the mission.
My question is why are these missions so damn hard now?
Okay, I can understand you want people to group up but what the hell are Level 5 missions gonna be like? OMGWTFJUSTGOTRAPED
All I can say is, Bring out the Tech 2 Battleships now.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.08.11 09:19:00 -
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There wont be t2 bs "hac style". Theyll be command flag ships or whatever.
As for extravaganza, its the single most difficult mission around. Do not accept unless you got a group or know what youre doing 
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Pudoris
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Posted - 2005.08.11 09:27:00 -
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A way to do them rather safely is to put up a HAC as a tank only, two best for this would probably be the Sacrilege because of its base resist ( I use that one ) and the ishtar for its tank and still maintaining increadible firepower with drones. Have a friend on a ship that can take down the frigates fast, my friends dominix does it well but there are many other options.
If you take the webbers out, there is nothing that the HAC cant tank with just one abII for speed and always orbiting something and a tII repper and rest for lows hardners.
My sacrilege has 85% res for all damage types approx and with that you are repairing immense amounts each cycle of one tII repper. One bullet proof way is to orbit your friend and make him have a remote repairer... one large repper can make sure you can tank even more crazy things (for those moments that you cant get the webber frigs fast) Angel extravaganza goes smoothly for us two.
gl...
-pud
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mimik
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Posted - 2005.08.11 10:13:00 -
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lvl4 missions are far from impossible if u setup your ship right.
i got 2 different characters both doing lvl4s, one using minmatar agents in a tempest and one using amarr agents in an apoc.
only mission i am uncomfortable doing is the infiltrated outposts using the tempest.
if u were unable to tank during an angel extravaganza with 2 large t2 reps running then something must have been wrong with the hardeners u had fitted assuming u were using them.
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Mr Morph
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Posted - 2005.08.11 11:13:00 -
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As far as tank goes 2larget 2 + 2explo 1 kin 1 therm are enough for angel extra; there will be some grps that slightly outdmg your tank but you'll be able to kill few enemies in time.
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Hephaesteus
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Posted - 2005.08.11 11:15:00 -
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I have done Angel Extraveganza with a corp mate lvl4 mission after the nerf & to be honest is was Pretty easy.
I concentrated on frigs and cruisers in my Meg he took out the battleships in his Raven only real prob is the time it takes.
One last thing, if CCP wanted to encourage peeps to group for missions why did they make it not worth the effort for more than 2 people to do lvl 4's ? |
Mannakin
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Posted - 2005.08.11 11:19:00 -
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Most level 4s can be done solo if you have a lot of experience in lvl 4 missions.
I have done all of them (except very few) in Raven/Mega/Dominix (post patch).
Some of them take forever though (start after DT not a few hours before!) and its quicker and safer with 2 ships.
A primary BS with a Scorpion as back up is nice. The Scorpion should be used in a support role with remote armour/shields/energy transfer and some launchers. The Scorpion can even use EW on the rats if you like!
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Rick Dentill
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Posted - 2005.08.11 14:34:00 -
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Hmm I have tried a few level 4 extavaganzas now, and we have always done them cooperatively.
The first time we had tanked megathron and me in a thorax. (Thankfully I am never the tanker )
The mix of drones, my blasters and a stasis web means that the small stuff does not last very long, battleships also once webbed fall very quickly to the neutron blasters on my rax and the rails on the megathron.
We also had great fun cleaning out one stage of the mission (I think the second stage) with only 2 thoraxs and a wolf. THe wolf was the tank! with the predominance of missiles and torpedoes the wolf was barely scratched leaving us in the raxs to take down the BSs and cruisers. I have never had so much fun in my time in EVE!
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SamtheDog
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Posted - 2005.08.11 14:48:00 -
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Sorry guys..but the Raven is still king of lvl4 missions if you're willing to set it up properly. I haven't found any mission I can't do solo...& have been racking up the loyalty points faster than ever b4. Surrounded by 15 cruisers shooting at you? Not a problem..you can fix that in less than 90 seconds to kill them all. Rogue drones shooting at you? Easy to kill. Try this setup, it never fails:
High Slots : 6 XT-9000 Cruise launchers
2 Faction 6,750m smartbombs
Med Slots : 1 C-Gist X-Large Shield Booster (525/179 cap)
1 amp
4 hardners
Low Slots : 5 X Power diagnostics Tech 2
Drone Bay : 6 Beserkers for support
This setup will alllow you to do amazing tanking while not draining your cap. It also allows you do kill any tackling frigates or drones with ease. It's not cheap, but if you can afford it...you'll be doing lvl4 missions to get your ship payout & can cash out your loyalty points with very little risk to losing a ship.
SamtheDog
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Kadarin
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Posted - 2005.08.11 22:32:00 -
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I am able to solo this mission in a megathron with two different fittings, depending on the targets. For cruisers, frigs, and weaker tanked BS, I use:
7x T2 250mm rails w/ antimatter or tungsten ammo for range
1x arb assault launcher w/bloodclaws
1x prototype webber
1x T2 target painter
1x heavy prototype cap injector with 800 charges
1x T2 cap recharger
2x large accom armor reps (can also use T2)
4x named active armor hardeners, one of each type
1x cap relay
I also use a mix of 9 heavy drones.
With that I kill everything but the most heavily tanked BS targets, for which I refit and come back with:
7x mix of neutron and ion blaster cannons w/antimatter
1x arb assault launcher
1x T2 100mn afterburner
1x prototype cap injector w/800 charges
2x T2 cap recharger
1x large accom armor rep
1x med accom armor rep (again, can replace with T2)
3x hardeners (all but EM)
2x T2 mag stabs (dmg mod)
Works great, and I have about 3.5M in gunnery SP.
I use these fittings for all lvl 4 missions, varying the hardeners based on NPC type, and haven't run into anything I cannot solo. The second part of the rogue drone Infested Outposts mission is tougher than anything in the Angel Extravaganza, IMO.
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