Destructor1792
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.03.27 13:22:00 -
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To the Op - answers to each part of your post:
Hefty TheFirst wrote:Hi,
So I have come to like more "mature" MMOS and eve struck me as one of the best.
I started playing 2 months ago and just lost all the friends I brought into eve.
Eve is certainly one of the best & unfortunate you lost your friends but that's part and parcel of life.. Maybe the game just didn't suit their playstyle?
Hefty TheFirst wrote:This game is simply way too punishing for new players. Just to be slightly effective it takes about 1.5 years of training.
Then you have some of the basics and can still not do anything special.
My first month of eve was great... But it was all just theoretical fun. All I did was plan stuff and study about the game and it's mechanics. So I brought 4 of my friends in which all payed for 1 month + trial. They loved the first month of eve and into the seconds month they all saw just how truly pathetic they were in terms of SP. Everything they wanted to do was years of training away. I was going to quit as well until I heard of the character bazaar. So I dropped a huge load of $ to buy a pilot that could actually play the game.
- What are you training that takes 1.5 years??
- Some of the basics and can't do anything??? What are you trying to do?
- Eve is like a game of chess - it takes alot of time, patience, tactics & well thought out plans. Some people have it, some don't.
EVE is not a "GO, GO, GO" game where everything has to be rushed through. Once the player understands that, they normally do just fine.
It's the same with most games, some prefer certain games to other. You can't please everyone.
And it was your choice to use the character bazaar, no-one elses. SP doesn't mean everything, Gaming Experience counts for alot more, so even with your new shiny character, you're gonna get r*ped as you haven't taken the time to learn how each mod works, piloting each ship, understanding the drawbacks of certain fits, ect, ect (could go on for ages with the list).
Hefty TheFirst wrote:I am sure the long SP training ques are CCP's way of "milking" $ out of us.
Which proves a point to me. Every one that I have spoken to that plays eve has at least 1-4 alts.
So that in itself proves how low the game population actually is.
Now this isn't a troll or whining thread.
If CCP truly wanted to make more $ something needs to be done about SP.
The longer the game progresses the more useless new players become.
Could you imagine starting to play WOW right now and have to grind through all of those expansions just to start playing the game at 90... Then the game only starts right?
- You're trying to compare two completely different games. WoW has a level cap & is defined by end game. EVE is not. (look up "Sandbox")
- And again with the SP comment (I'm starting to think you don't like the SP side of this game)
- Now unique players in the game? CCP states over 500k subscribers. Unique subscribers? Probably more in the 10-25k region, may be pushing 30k-40k on a good month so that point I partly agree with you on.
Hefty TheFirst wrote:So this is as constructive as a new player can get.
I am not mad in any way. I actually want to help eve grow, that's the whole reason of this thread.
I want to know if anything is being done about the huge SP brick wall.
From what I am seeing the summer change is making it even harder for new players.
Battle cruisers were a huge win for new players as it didn't take too long to fly them and now it's even taking that small win away from new players.
- And another SP comment (noticing a pattern here)
- BC's are still a huge win for new players (suggest you read up about the upcoming skill changes and how they affect you)
Hefty TheFirst wrote:So all I am asking is what is being done about this huge problem EVE faces?
Who can I talk to about this to make it apparent?
This game is truly great but how does any new player have a chance at experiencing that greatness?
I truly want to see this game grow so help me talk to the right people.
If I could talk to the right people I could really guarantee new players sticking around instead of getting discouraged and quitting.
Regards: Hefty
- What huge problems? Please be more specific
- There are two forum catagories where you can post concerns (Assembly Hall) or ideas (Features and idea discussions)
- Greatness you ask? That needs to be earnt in this game - SO time and patience are your friend
- Talk to the right people? You are (sort of). The player base has a big influence on the way this game evolves (good or bad)
- Sorry, but the last comment of yours.. heard it all before. Players will only stick around if they enjoy the type of game they are playing. Plain and Simple.
Reading your whole post though, it seems you have a really big issue with SP!! You seem to want to have it all whilst putting in the least amount of time and effort to get that result & then by trying to justify that lots of friends have left the game!
Sorry, but that's not Eve. Yes, there are a few shortcuts to be had but "EXPERIENCE" is the big thing in this game, not "SP". |