Tsunamicom
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Posted - 2013.06.01 13:09:00 -
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Hefty TheFirst wrote:Hi,
So I have come to like more "mature" MMOS and eve struck me as one of the best.
I started playing 2 months ago and just lost all the friends I brought into eve.
This game is simply way too punishing for new players. Just to be slightly effective it takes about 1.5 years of training.
Then you have some of the basics and can still not do anything special.
My first month of eve was great... But it was all just theoretical fun. All I did was plan stuff and study about the game and it's mechanics. So I brought 4 of my friends in which all payed for 1 month + trial. They loved the first month of eve and into the seconds month they all saw just how truly pathetic they were in terms of SP. Everything they wanted to do was years of training away. I was going to quit as well until I heard of the character bazaar. So I dropped a huge load of $ to buy a pilot that could actually play the game.
I am sure the long SP training ques are CCP's way of "milking" $ out of us.
Which proves a point to me. Every one that I have spoken to that plays eve has at least 1-4 alts.
So that in itself proves how low the game population actually is.
Now this isn't a troll or whining thread.
If CCP truly wanted to make more $ something needs to be done about SP.
The longer the game progresses the more useless new players become.
Could you imagine starting to play WOW right now and have to grind through all of those expansions just to start playing the game at 90... Then the game only starts right?
So this is as constructive as a new player can get.
I am not mad in any way. I actually want to help eve grow, that's the whole reason of this thread.
I want to know if anything is being done about the huge SP brick wall.
From what I am seeing the summer change is making it even harder for new players.
Battle cruisers were a huge win for new players as it didn't take too long to fly them and now it's even taking that small win away from new players.
So all I am asking is what is being done about this huge problem EVE faces?
Who can I talk to about this to make it apparent?
This game is truly great but how does any new player have a chance at experiencing that greatness?
I truly want to see this game grow so help me talk to the right people.
If I could talk to the right people I could really guarantee new players sticking around instead of getting discouraged and quitting.
Regards: Hefty
When you ask what CCP is doing to make this better, just look at the next patch.
The next patch will be more new-player friendly regarding getting the ships you want by reducing the time it takes to train for a specific ship or set of ships overall, and cutting out extra train garbage that doesn't make sense. They are removing tiered training and replacing it with function specific training. This will allow your new players and friends to change their train plan to be more effective earlier for the specific task they want to complete.
Ref: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-great-skill-change-of-blessed-2013/
I'm sorry your friends all left you, and you had to 'buy' a character to feel important in the game. Maybe this game wasn't for them, or even you for that matter. I'd like to think that a sandbox game can be for anyone, but when you say you want a 'Mature' MMO you have to think of what makes this game mature. Is it the player base? I'd say that's a huge part of it. I'd also like to think that 'mature' players also recognize that you don't get anything for free and it takes time and investments to make your goals a reality.
I have a RL buddy who I play a large variety of games with, but I know EvE isn't for him because he wants to be the top of the charts "right now". FPS games are more his style because most of them you don't have to 'level up' persay to be effective. I've realized that and took that into consideration when figuring out what games to play with him.
If your friends just want an out-of-the-box shoot-em up, go with an FPS. But if they REALLY want the golden apple of fun and excitement, see if they stick to EvE.
Then again, one of my favorite quotes from the 'mature' players:
"When a player leaves EvE for a game like WoW, the average IQ of both games increases."
Good Luck in your travels.
-Tsunamicom |