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Posted - 2013.03.09 01:16:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Those who do not adapt become victims of evolugafesdlkjjkhlkl
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Alavaria Fera wrote:I'm a nullsec zealot
I see from your sig you have replaced you hatred for BoB with a hatred for hi-sec. I wonder if this is true of Goons in general?
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Posted - 2013.03.09 05:28:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Buzzy Warstl wrote:
So, Tippia, you seem to know an awful lot about CCP's inner workings, when can we expect to see that POS announcement?
Do what everyone else does: read the dev blogs.
uhhh....There aren't any teams at CCP doing a POS revamp right now. They are doing ship re-balancing and have a lot of ships to go before they are done. They have SOV mechanics being talked about and they say they aren't happy with *that*, but that isn't what they are working on yet. There are a few things I'm forgetting too that they are working on. Most of the industry stuff wanted as a part of the "null agenda" isn't on the table right now, no teams have been assigned to do that that I know of.
But I'm just a clueless hi-sec resident and don't know the "REAL" agenda of CCP.
They did say that in 2011.
I'm sure they will get around to it SOON-«. |
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Posted - 2013.03.10 20:43:00 -
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The nullsec agenda is groupthink in action. |
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Posted - 2013.03.10 20:59:00 -
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Primary Me wrote:
It's not actually about the isk. Those asking for an industry rebalance are only asking to be able to earn the same amount of isk in null that their alts are currently earning in hi-sec; unfortunately it appears that to do this the isk earning potential of hi-sec will need to be lowered but that is a side issue to this.
What is hoped for is that an industry rebalance, together with sov and pos mechanic change will enable more conflict drivers to exist in null; larger populations doing more non-combat related activities will need more escorting/guarding which in turn will provide more targets, which will start the PvP food chain allowing PvP at all levels rather than just the huge fleet actions and sov grind that we currently have.
Imagine the effect of having various pieces of industry infrastructure that can be put out of action by a small roaming gang for a number of hours; losing a few hours of production occasionally is no big deal, but if it happens constantly the industrialists will demand action from the alliance PvPers, who will in turn have to start interdicting these roaming gangs, all of which is providing much needed content to null.
Null should be the place to make great riches, but at great risk. It should be where those that dare go to make, and possibly lose, their fortunes, with an emphasis on 'possibly lose'.
You are living in a fantasy world. The changes that are usually prescribed by the nullsec agenda people won't deliver what you are talking about.
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Posted - 2013.03.11 03:35:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Kane Alvo wrote:I know I'm right, along with a great many others. Null bears are calling for CCP intervention to fix their industry woes, when they should be doing it themselves. Instead, you're all content to roam your sovereign space, blue your neighbors, and whine about what you don't have. There's nothing stopping you from setting up trade agreements with other alliances, creating trade hubs, or any number of things....including going to war and expanding your territory for access to more industry options.
Yes, POSs need to be fixed. Yes, corp roles need fixed. Yes, you probably do need more industry slots. But the calls to be fully independent of high sec T1 production are ludicrous. The calls for "we should have access to everything without logistics" are equally stupid. And there's no reason to nerf other areas of space just so you can all feel like special snowflakes for 5 minutes until you find something else to whine about.
yes i agree completely. also faction war should never have been "fixed" by ccp. all the people in it were just whining for fixes and what they didn't have. there are no problems whatsoever with eve online and anyone who points one out is just trying for a handout. hahaha this whole time those stupid nullseccers could have been 'setting up trade agreements with neighbors', 'expanding their territory' and 'creating trade hubs' which would have solved all their problems in some nebulous fashion because of the emergent gameplay
Hi-sec industry isn't factional warfare, its been around for 10 years. It was designed to have a low barrier to entry easy accessibility so that anyone could do it, much like PI has a low barrier to entry. It's "working as intendedGäó".
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Posted - 2013.03.11 23:09:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF MY PERSONAL AGENDA!
You posted that 3 times.
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Posted - 2013.03.11 23:10:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF MY PERSONAL AGENDA!
You posted that 3 times.
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:08:00 -
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Antir wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Mayhaw Morgan wrote:Antir wrote:the people who this buff will help are currently making isk just fine /thread Yeah, they're doing industry in highsec. No problem at all, end of story. Might as well give highsec some more of those delicious cheap slots, it only helps the game after all. Yep there is no need for more conflict drivers in null sec or more people putting assests at risk.
Who will have their assets at high risk under the new industry scheme in null?
Who will have their assets at low risk under the new industry scheme in null? |
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Posted - 2013.03.12 02:12:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:Tesal wrote:
Who will have their assets at high risk under the new industry scheme in null?
Who will have their assets at low risk under the new industry scheme in null?
high risk: pos users medium risk: outpost/conq station users lowest risk: npc station users
Nice dodge.
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Posted - 2013.03.12 03:35:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Tesal wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:Tesal wrote:
Who will have their assets at high risk under the new industry scheme in null?
Who will have their assets at low risk under the new industry scheme in null?
high risk: pos users medium risk: outpost/conq station users lowest risk: npc station users Nice dodge. Ok I am lost, how is that a dodge. Maybe I just need more coffee 
The answer is small alliances will have high risk for their assets.
The big guys will have low risk.
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Posted - 2013.03.16 18:59:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:
sorry I did mix that up/ NULL SEC should have worse logistics & industry likethe wild west for the most part had ( except for some good precious ore refining )
We have had ten years of building in 0.0. Ten yeas ago most of this was a desert. So, the fact that the richest powers in EVE cant even build an industry to supply their own forces with enough ammo to do ratting let alone fight a war in their own empires doesn't sound broken to you?
"You people" aren't just asking for enough slots to build ammo, you are also asking for hi-sec industry to be nuked.
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Posted - 2013.03.16 21:33:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Sentamon wrote:PUNISHED!?  Are you in pain? How about all the crying blue donut children abandon nullsec and leave it for the adults to manage. The fact you are spouting the blue donut myth shows you have no clue about null let alone null industry.
Yah, hi-sec publords have no clue. Right on. Show them who is boss.
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Posted - 2013.03.17 00:57:00 -
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I am a self important, humorless and rigid disciplinarian.
I await the progression of this thread to impose my uncompromising viewpoint.
I will prevail because my logic is invincible and I can say or do no wrong.
Null is full of "NAP aspirantsGäó" these days. Here is an off topic video to remind people how EvE used to be played.
I hope this post has been educational. |
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Posted - 2013.04.10 23:13:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:[While you can grow your own vegetables, your little fruitstand is not the produce section of a grocery store.
It just isn't. Exactly the problem. With the current game mechanics, null simply cannot ever progress beyond fruitstand. It's got nothing to do with cunning, guile, ambition or even isk. The mechanics simply do not allow it. This means CCP are telling people they should spend trillions invading, developing and defending null space so they can have little more than a fruit stand when the highsec supermarket is open for business and free to use. If you don't see a problem with that, then we're right back to the "trolling or ********" part.
Changing industry could lead to a situation where the CFC and HBC become dominant players in industry. It could make the big powers become even more entrenched and more unbalanced and instead of increasing pvp, it could reduce conflict. Nuking hi-sec and turning everything over to null could have unpredictable consequences.
Shiite proverb: The first to reason by analogy was the devil. Fruit stand analogies don't mean anything.
When there was real war in null, and there were real threats to the big powers, this wasn't even a topic of conversation. Now we get 50 page threadnaughts about it, with a lot of people believing this would help fix null. In my opinion this is a peacetime discussion and goes to show how stagnant null has become.
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Posted - 2013.04.11 01:49:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:And why isn't there "real war" in null anymore? Could it be that the mechanics of war suck? That conquest for the sake of it isn't enough to make people commit to losing what they have anymore?
Grinding Sov used to suck when it was POS count that controlled Sov. People were constantly spamming and attacking POS during wars. The Sov grind sucking isn't something new. Alarm clock ops were invented back then. There are more HP to grind now, but there are also more caps and supercaps to grind it. People used to kill each other because they were enemies and they hated each other. That's gone. The big powers tolerate each other now. They don't act. They don't even fight proxy wars. The new end game is ganking freighters in Hi-sec. |
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