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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.07.22 16:43:00 -
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"plus camping has nothing wrong with it, its the best way to pvp right now"
Not good for the future of EVE.
Except of course if you're camping to kill pirates, then it's ok.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.07.22 16:44:00 -
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lol, you really have no clue
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Crepiscule
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Posted - 2003.07.22 16:45:00 -
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Sorry Drunk,
I no longer have a link to it. It ended up turning into a flame fest anyway, like the majority of the threads lately.
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.07.22 16:51:00 -
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"lol, you really have no clue"
Enough conversing with the simpletons, I need to get back to work, lunch break is over...
Insult ya later!!
"Trust No One" |
Skeeve
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Posted - 2003.07.22 16:54:00 -
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 Yanno.. I have to hand it to Setec... Pirate Rogue.. Pain in the ass.. whatever you want to say, the sheer audacity of charging isk to view the chatlogs of people getting held up / destroyed is .. amazing. And by God I have to applaud his criminal ass, nicely thought of.. granted I won't be subscribing to this "Jerry Springer" type of entertainment.. but it shows inventiveness, savvy.. and ballz the size of cantaloupes..
Well done Setec... but I'd still like to collect yer bounty.. 
"Your Mother was a Hamster.. and your Father smelt of Elderberries!" - traditional French Insult |
Master Scy
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Posted - 2003.07.22 16:59:00 -
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ROFL @ mining log.
You did leave out the part where the arrogators come in to rescue the omber, and shoot the mining cruiser for half an hour while it spams shield boosters...
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You think Marco Polo said
"Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ?
-Indigo Seqi
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.07.22 17:00:00 -
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I must protest, Mr.Setec is an example citizen of the caldari state, he has helped concord in their mission to clean the universe of pirates many times and has a 9.8 security rating.
To put a bounty on such an example member of society is outrageous and illegal! If you ever insult Mr.Setec again you will hear from the Space Invaders lawyers! 
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.07.22 17:03:00 -
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Setec > That's much less than the cost of your ship.
EruditeVictim > true, but you're only a single cruiser
EruditeVictim > but then again you seem to have jammed my lock
That whole episode is even funnier, impossible as that may seem, if you read it in an Proper British Accent. But then most things are. Which one of you was serving the tea?
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |
Sybylle
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Posted - 2003.07.22 17:03:00 -
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Well...Even if I'm not a pirate (and don't wish to be one), Setec stories are funny (not always but most are).
And I have to agree that WhiteD take it too serious...Damn...That's a game!
I wouldn't be in his corp...May be it's different when playing, but as he says half of his fun is from forum 
Keep it cool guy...Nobody wanna run in a blockade...But it's part of the game 
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(O.o)
(> <)=Oveur (proof)
"Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period" |
Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.07.22 17:06:00 -
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lol harlequin, it really does sound funny in british  gentleman pirates heh
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Setec
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Posted - 2003.07.22 17:13:00 -
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WhiteDwarf, when you want to insult somebody's intelligence it helps to have credentials more impressive than "Mining Director of Infinicorp!" Otherwise nobody can take you seriously. You're just some pretentious ******* running around calling people "simpletons" instead of "jerks" and thinking that this word choice makes your insult more intelligent. It doesn't. Your lower management position in a bloated open-recruitment mining corporation doesn't give you enough clout to insult the intelligence of a band of crafty bandits. And if you do wish to insult us, you'll have to do better than that juvenile namecalling you've employed so far, even if you do use really pretentious words...
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Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net |
Tulor
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Posted - 2003.07.22 17:39:00 -
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If whitedwarves mining stories are as funny as the one you made up Setec then I'd definately be willing to pay him 500k a week to get more of that...
God I almost fell out of my chair in the library... Oh well, back to researching ancient Persia
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.07.22 17:42:00 -
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ahahahaha, it does.
toodle pip, spit spot, albert hall, good show, etc.
I say, sir, you appear to have caused the non functioning of my vessel in various regards. Is there some credit transfer ritual you'd have me perform?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.07.22 17:43:00 -
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IĘve a thought that the irascible Mr White Dwarf esquire has singularly failed to learn an essential truth of guerrilla marketing; that all publicity is good publicity.
After all, where would an erstwhile collection of amusing robbery stories be without a willing mook to play the fool to the erudite bandit and his wise-*****ing-thigh-slapping gangsters of taste and heart-pounding ribaldry eh?
Sad indeed to lose the battle of wits in space *and* upon the etherą
By the by, its nice to see you staying around Molly mĘdear, I would so have missed the eventual opportunity to examine your vital statistics firsthandą
And,
Good work monsieur Setec as always; you provide a fine service to merchant adventurers daring to make better profits in marginal space ą it would never do to have such ventures proceeding entirely without risk.
And by the by, should your invitation yet stand then do feel free to despatch a courier; I should love to stretch my legs out on the control board of a ship with more creature comforts than a bestower for a time.
In the service of beauty,
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.07.22 17:44:00 -
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Thanks for the funny chats.
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.07.22 18:20:00 -
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Setec, Molly and others chiming in on Whitedwarf:
Don't bother. Whitedwarf won't ever understand that even just to camp a gate successfully it takes a greater understanding of your ship (and your target's ship) than his mining ship. That you have to know far more about the game than he does.
Given a blackbird and his choice of modules/drones, he'd prolly completely **** his first blockade. He'd be lucky to come back with the ship in one piece. Give you a thorax and your choice of modules/drones and you'll come back with ore your first run out. And he'll never acknowledge why it happened: it takes more skill than he thinks to reduce a person's chances to 0 than it takes to reduce an asteroid's chances to 0.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Prime One
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Posted - 2003.07.22 18:40:00 -
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Sementec trying to stir the pot again.
The devs need to give you 0.0 dwellers something to do. What's the longest camping trip you have participated in and how many marshmellows (frigates) and weenies (starter ships) did you consume?
Seriously though, what's the current pirate record for holding a gate?
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.07.22 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: drunkenmaster on 22/07/2003 18:46:15
"Given a blackbird and his choice of modules/drones, he'd prolly completely **** his first blockade. He'd be lucky to come back with the ship in one piece. Give you a thorax and your choice of modules/drones and you'll come back with ore your first run out."
Dunno, I was thinking that even with the BB, he'd come back with ore...
<edit> lol, Prime One, you're kinda weak.
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.07.22 18:45:00 -
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"Give you a thorax and your choice of modules/drones and you'll come back with ore your first run out. And he'll never acknowledge why it happened: it takes more skill than he thinks to reduce a person's chances to 0 than it takes to reduce an asteroid's chances to 0"
Jash, you willing to give me gate camping lessons?
This game had such promise, it's a shame PvP has been dwindled down to the griefing tactic known as camping. Such a shame CCP. I had such high hopes.
"Trust No One" |
Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.22 18:52:00 -
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Sorry Prime One, but SI and friends usually try to stop every single ship which passes, regardless of class and equipment.
And if some people try to ambush us and numbers & ship classes are equal we usually destroy them all.
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
Yaeger
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Posted - 2003.07.22 18:57:00 -
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Let me get this Dwarf: You can camp for pirates but if they camp it's BAD BAD BAD? Lighten up and take a look at the facts, camping is the only way to actually intercept people to pvp. Which is why YOU do it to try to intercept SI. And the only one getting insulted and looking like an idiot is you. No, don't shut your mouth it's already too late. And, fore the record, I am not a pirate.
"I think we all need to train spelling"
"I need typing lvl 2 first, though" - Help Channel,
"Now you guys can flame me. Ready..... GO!"
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.22 18:59:00 -
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This game had such promise, it's a shame PvP has been dwindled down to the griefing tactic known as camping.
I suggested already once to rename you to WhiteTroll. Trolls are not as smart as Dwarfs, and you are the most stupid Dwarf I ever met.
I bet you would even call a Military Sniper a camping griefer.
There is no problem with gate camping, you can equip your ship to run through a blockade, you can use bookmarks to instant jump, you can warp back from a gate once you see campers, you can go to a safe postition and call for reinforcements.
Furthermore camping is done in 0.0 outside empire space mostly now, so I do not see a real problem here.
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.07.22 19:19:00 -
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Quite right Molly m'dear, the occassional spot of gate camping makes routine drudgery into an exciting jaunt into the unknown. I still get a delightful tingle down my spine when the sound of a lock-on sings warning notes from my scanner. Means trading takes real skills and a sense of professionalism to achieve without humiliating loss. For the record I trade almost exclusively in 0.0 ... all the best folks do; these empire runs are for the birds I must say.
That said, 'tis a shame times look to be a-changing ... earlier this evening good master Mastema of the Space Invaders used a passive lock-on system to light up my bestower for a barrage from a battleship class vehicle at Ewok-k. Now that was a bolt from the blue ... lucky indeed the old "storm season" was swift enough to pass the blockade with a few slivers of armour still attached ;)
I will shed a tear when the day of the Blackbird is done and all the rogues and brigands of marginal space are flying battleships ...
Still, goes to show how profitable piracy can be in the right hands eh?
All the best ...
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.07.22 19:22:00 -
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"Lighten up and take a look at the facts, camping is the only way to actually intercept people to pvp. Which is why YOU do it to try to intercept SI. And the only one getting insulted and looking like an idiot is you. No, don't shut your mouth it's already too late. And, fore the record, I am not a pirate"
I've never camped a gate.
Don't you worry little man, I won't shut my mouth anytime soon :)
As the thoughtful SI griefers would say, have a nice day! :)
"Trust No One" |
Molly
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Posted - 2003.07.22 19:28:00 -
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Jade, I am glad, that you are around, if some people make jokes about my low official bounty, I always mention you and the frozen corpse deal.
Regarding pilots in battleships. I for my part refuse to fly a battleship for now. Rumors are that a god like entity is using its powers to destroy assets of combat pilots. I have done some investigations at this issue and so far I can tell you the name of the god like entity. It's CCP! I tried to tell this entity not to interfere with my combat actions or to reimburse me if they do, but so far the entity refused to accept my outstanding debts. Why should it, I am a low life compared to such a mighty entity.
So don't be afraid, next time we meet in a solar system I will be in a cruiser class ship for sure.
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"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so?
Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor?
Molly > lol
Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
Lexington Cabot
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Posted - 2003.07.22 19:40:00 -
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"This game had such promise, it's a shame PvP has been dwindled down to the griefing tactic known as camping. Such a shame CCP. I had such high hopes."
What, so your corp can mine in 0.0 space without any fighter protection or worry about pvp?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.07.22 19:50:00 -
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Monsieur Dwarf,
I must disagree with your interpretation. The Space Invaders are not "griefers" nor indeed are other working illegals in search of loot and profit and toll and bribery.
"Griefers" exploit nasty glitches and bully new players from unbalanced positions of power.
"Griefers" attempt to destroy the suspension of disbelief and consensual reality by using gamey tactics to make up for their evident lack of manhood elsewhere.
Whats consensual about the gate robbery blockades you ask ?
Well they happen in marginal space now ... where you can chose to go if you want to become stinking filthy rich m'dear ... but ya see hun, it involves an element of risk.
I've seen "griefers" in eve, and have seen the consequences of their work. But labelling "honest" criminals like the Space Invaders with the same term is going to do nothing aside portraying your good self as an ass, while further confusing the difference between good quality brigands making a go of piracy and poor quality nutjobs who once damaged the suspension of disbelief for everybody.
Now I appreciate its painful to lose a ship, a cargo, the seat of your pants, etc etc, but simply appreciate the gamesmanship of a job well done and lay your plans to get even if that is what you chose.
But don't think to gain respect or kudos by making false accusations of "griefing" against people who are (as far as I know) doing absolutely nothing of the sort.
In faith
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orrin
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Posted - 2003.07.22 20:01:00 -
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From a little fish that got away.
Setec, you always post these very funny stories about people who you have robbed. But never any stories about the ones that get away.
You probably do not remember, but a few weeks ago you and your crew had a blockade in place around egbinger. My char Orrin is coming back from deep space in a Stabber with a hold full of npc goodies.
Now I was unable to turn off auto-pilot before warping into your trap (I noticed your crew in Local but too late). First thing I do is turn around. You and your 3 mates warp jam and target lock me and you cargo scan. Luckily I am to far away to be webified (I do not think anyone but you got within 10k). Then the dreaded request for conversation comes from the great Sectec.
You all actually were reasonable about price but as we were ****ering about price our range was building (Orrin is fast). Then either some one failed to renew the warp jam or I got out of range and what happens? The victim slips the hook.
The moral is not all prey gets caught (and auto-pilot is not your friend). In addition, you have taught me to be very careful and gave me the most excitement in EVE so far. Thx. If I see you solo in game I will transfer some ISK to you(g). I think about 21k a volley...(assuming I can lock).
Orrin
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Prime One
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Posted - 2003.07.22 20:01:00 -
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I know, very weak. That's why I come here. So many expert pirates hang in these type threads. I just find the pirate mind interesting to study.
What do most people do when you try to stop them? Run, pay or just die. I ask that because unless the tent has just been constructed or everyone is paying, the map will start to show the location therby trimming potential profit.
I also found the price going up upon more of the victim's corp members showing up very interesting as well. At that point it seems like most pirates would have just said "Anyone else shows and you die" which would also be more of a absolute now that the target is soft. Im just not sure why that warrents the additional fee? Is it more for the pirate's protection?
I may just have to subscribe to gather more information. Although I do not pirate, I always thought there was some reason and strategy to it. BTW, Im the blue bear above with the poo in his eye.
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M0RPHEUS
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Posted - 2003.07.22 21:08:00 -
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bah raise Molly's bounty!
Ask me nicely and I won't pod you... |
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