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Setec	Posted - 2003.07.22 15:00:00 - [1] It's been a while since I've posted any of my piracy chatlogs here, since I've actually not been pirating a lot because I'm busy with RL and with CEO political stuff. I'm finally back in action pirating, and below I'm pasting some logs from last night as well as some highlights from my corpmates' action over the past few weeks. If you get a kick out of these, you can now use your isk to subscribe to the full Space Invaders private archive on si-corp.net, which currently includes over a hundred entertaining chats and evemails and is usually updated at least once a day with new adventures. A subscription costs only 500k isk/month, and you may pay in advance for as many months as you wish. Note that in the samples all names have been changed and all foul language has been cut because of CCP's forum rules. The private archive, however, is uncensored. The average log on the private forums is a bit longer than the ones I'm posting, too. If you'd like to subscribe, follow these steps: 1. Go to http://www.si-corp.net and create an account. 2. Go in game and send an evemail to my research alt character, Setec Astronomy, including your username and the number of months for which you're subscribing. 3. Send the isk, 500k per month of your subscription, to Setec Astronomy. Your si-corp.net account will be granted access to our "Stories & Chatlogs" forum within 24 hours. When your subscription runs out, your access will be cut off and you'll have to follow these same steps to re-subscribe. Because of post length limitations, I'll post the sample chatlogs in a new post in this thread. See below. ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net
Setec	Posted - 2003.07.22 15:00:00 - [2] Edited by: Setec on 22/07/2003 15:01:07 Ryoko holding up a very potty-mouthed Stabber pilot: Ryoko > HI SillyMan > sup Ryoko > 1 mil isk please or lose your ship Ryoko > Please Stop immideately Ryoko > or we'll just soften you up Ryoko > autopilot off abs off stop your ship Ryoko > better get a loan quick! SillyMan > U MOTHER**ERS R DEAD SillyMan > I GOT A MALLER ON THE WAY SillyMan > SO DEEP SHOOTIN Ryoko > cool Ryoko > we'll hold him up too Ryoko > la la la la la SillyMan > OK HERE YOUR IN MIL Ryoko > quickly Ryoko > 10 seconds SillyMan > there Ryoko > Thank you have a nice day SillyMan > U ING U R IN DEAD Ryoko holding up a Moa... so straight and to the point: Ryoko > HI. MrCuriosity > Hi Ryoko > 1.5 mil isk please Ryoko > stop your ship immidiately MrCuriosity > Why? Ryoko > because we can blow you up MrCuriosity > Ok then Ryoko > quickly please MrCuriosity > Done Ryoko > thank you have a nice day Ryoko > modules turning off Here's one of those amusing dry threats from the CEO of a corp whose member I attacked. Needless to say, a month has passed and we've yet to feel the fury of those 40 cruisers: Setec > Hello AngryCEO > What right do you have destroying one of our ships? AngryCEO > StupidRifter is a member of Dry Threats Inc and was not reading local chat Setec > I was not speaking in local chat. I attempted to open a conversation because I know many don't read local. Setec > He rejected the conversation offer so I blew him up. AngryCEO > So you destroy those that do not answer? Setec > He didn't just fail to answer, as an AFK person might--he answered "no" to talking to me. Rejected the conversation. Setec > And yes, I destroy all who do that. Setec > Is this a problem? AngryCEO > That is still no reason for attacking him. Unless proper reperations are made the full fury of over 40 cruisers will decend upon Space Invaders Setec > I had a perfectly good reason for attacking him. I wanted to make him give me money. He refused so I finished him off. AngryCEO > You had no reason. Failure to communicate does not warrent destruction. Setec > I believe it just did. I'm a pirate. That makes me judge, jury, and executioner. AngryCEO > Think about the consequences of your actions, I await a response. AngryCEO > AngryCEO out Here's one of my hold-ups that went really smoothly. Very polite, reasonable victim: Setec > Hi, I'm a pirate. Stop your ship immediately and you will not be harmed. EruditeVictim > ok Setec > I'm firing, but I will not destroy your ship unless you fail to comply. EruditeVictim > I'm stopping Setec > Ok Setec > Ok turning the guns off. Setec > I'm charging a fee of 1 million isk for you to pass without harm. Setec > That's much less than the cost of your ship. EruditeVictim > true, but you're only a single cruiser EruditeVictim > but then again you seem to have jammed my lock Setec > Yes, a single cruiser that has you jammed so you can't possibly target me and double webified so you can't get away. Setec > Nor can you get out of jamming range, because of the webifiers. EruditeVictim > Ok, I concede your point EruditeVictim > I'll pay you this time, but I'll remember your name Setec > Sounds like a plan. Setec > Ok, smart decision, you're free to go in a sec--you won't be harmed. Setec > Thank you and have a nice day. :) EruditeVictim > Nice to see a decent pirate for a change EruditeVictim > But you won't catch me so easily next time Setec > Yeah those trigger-happy PKs make terrible money. :) One of Bellona's smooth hold-ups: Bellona > hello...im a friendly pirate... Bellona > STOP YOUR SHIP OR YOU WILL BE FIRED UPON Bellona > passage is 500k isk Bellona > you have 15 secs or i begin to fire ScaryRuptureMan > you want 5 ruptures on your ass ScaryRuptureMan > 1 jump away Bellona > 15 secs to pay 500k ScaryRuptureMan > i dont ing have it Bellona > loans....from your 5 friends :) Bellona > really....i dont like killing....it doesnt help either of us ScaryRuptureMan > dude stop ScaryRuptureMan > ill get you your **ing money Bellona > 500k Bellona > NOW Bellona > 10 more secs until i fire until you are dead ScaryRuptureMan > i got it stop Bellona > send or die Bellona > thank you Bellona > have a nice day ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net
Setec	Posted - 2003.07.22 15:01:00 - [3] Here's by far our best hold-up to date. Ryoko in his blackbird and a corpmate in a Badger II held up a battleship for 30 mil! Ryoko > hey BattleshipPAYDIRT > rofl, what is this? Ryoko > toll gate! Ryoko > shoot me once BattleshipPAYDIRT > how much dude? BattleshipPAYDIRT > I don't have the time Ryoko > 20 mil BattleshipPAYDIRT > uve got to be kidding me Ryoko > nope! Ryoko > can I try to kill you? Ryoko > we need more firepower, agree? Ryoko > ;( Ryoko > I've got 3 more cruisers within 5-10 jumps Ryoko > I will increase toll 10 mil per ship when you give Ryoko > oh look one's already here Ryoko > 30 mil BattleshipPAYDIRT > fine BattleshipPAYDIRT > **** man BattleshipPAYDIRT > here BattleshipPAYDIRT > there u go Ryoko > thanks man have a nice day BattleshipPAYDIRT > let me past Here's one of my many fun conversations with some well-to-do CEO who wanted to inform me that gasp one of my members was engaging in criminal activity! Oh no's! Setec > Hi TattlingCEO > hello TattlingCEO > one of your corp members is a theif Setec > Really? Setec > And here I thought we were just pirates. Setec > Sort of nice of him to just steal something t hat was already sitting out instead of forcing you at gunpoint to drop it, ain't it? TattlingCEO > well............ in that case, he will be KoS Setec > Golly Setec > Last thing I wanted was to be KoS to... um... let me check Setec > the CorpIveNeverHeardOf! TattlingCEO > im not KoS'ing u, u havent stole anything..... yet TattlingCEO > just him Setec > I would if I had the chance :) Setec > We're all KoS to more megacorps than you can shake a stick at. It's no biggie. We are pirates. Setec > Which member stole from you, by the way? TattlingCEO > ok, cool............ why? so u can congradulate him? Setec > Yeah TattlingCEO > lol TattlingCEO > i wont give him the pleasure Setec > It's not like it's an orgasm or something Setec > Just curious, that's all TattlingCEO > Gr3G, does he have a cruiser? cause id like to battle him Setec > No you wouldn't :) Setec > I've gotta go TattlingCEO > sure i would Setec > You have fun trying to k him os TattlingCEO > no worries Here's a pretty dumb guy who thought he could escape by logging out. Note to potential victims: that has never ever ever ever ever worked! Setec > Hey, we're pirates. DeathwishMan > Yep I know Setec > Sit still and don't try anything funny and we'll let you go for a toll. Setec > I've gotta scan you, one sec. DeathwishMan > k DeathwishMan > stop shooting then Setec > Yep we just soften everyone up so we can kill them fast if they try anything funny. Setec > You're safe as long as you comply. DeathwishMan > I stopped Setec > Ok Setec > I'm ship scanning you in a sec Setec > After that I decide on a payment Setec > Oh wow, 3 prototype gausses and 2 vortex stabilizers. DeathwishMan > scan again Setec > Nah it's accurate DeathwishMan > Only 1 vortex Setec > 6 mil's going to be your price of freedom. Setec > That's a whole lot less than the cost of your ship+modules. DeathwishMan > I need to get some money from corp Setec > Ok, you have 45 seconds. Setec > If we see any of your corpmates show up on local you're dead. (Here he drops link and we podkill him.) Here's an after-the-fact chat with another guy who tried that, logged back in to his pod, and sat there watching us: FutureBiomass > so Setec > You shouldn't have tried to log out to escape. Setec > That NEVER works. Setec > Now get out of here, we can't have your pod watching us. FutureBiomass > you thought it was necessary to pk my alt? Setec > We don't know or give a damn who is who's alt, your ship came up and didn't stop, you tried to escape by logout, you die. Setec > We're going to pod him if you're still here in 30 seconds. FutureBiomass > youll get yours Setec > Splat. ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2003.07.22 15:07:00 - [4] Comedy megacyte. I'll be signing up for some of that later. "Bellona > hello...im a friendly pirate... Bellona > STOP YOUR SHIP OR YOU WILL BE FIRED UPON" aaaahahahahahhaaa .
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.07.22 15:35:00 - [5] Wow, camping stories. Sorry, I'm not impressed. "Trust No One"
Molly	Posted - 2003.07.22 15:46:00 - [6] Post some of your mining stories here WhiteDwarf. You might impress us. --- "Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships"
nono	Posted - 2003.07.22 15:51:00 - [7] "Wow, camping stories." LOL while the stories can be quite humerous to some I'm sure others are put off by it. Setec will for sure have a response to those that are put off. Good read for me I just hope I'm never on the receiving end of one of those encounters. But what we have here is an ADVERTISEMENT for a website FFS. And to top it all off one that charges EVE ISK. HOLY **** Batman what an idea!!!!! Just think of the possibilities for us all if this is allowed. ISK for PRON!!!!! MEET SINGLES IN YOUR AREA!!!! 1 Million ISK/mnth only!!!!!! LIVE CHAT!!! 100,000 ISK/minute !!!!!
loci	Posted - 2003.07.22 15:56:00 - [8] ive got a good story for you molly, its quite a pitifull one about a ladyboy who made a 'im quitting post' just to see how many would say "dont go, we lub u"
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.07.22 15:56:00 - [9] "Post some of your mining stories here WhiteDwarf. You might impress us" Those are none of your buisness. Setec's posting his crap here looking for some type of accolades, sorry, he wont get them from me. Molly, you still here? Sheesh, Aren't you ever gonna leave? Stop teasing us. "Trust No One"
Mia Noir	Posted - 2003.07.22 15:58:00 - [10] Dont be such a killjoy dwarf, its not setecs fault your short:P This is quality stuff right here, im sold:) Unless its some kind of scam or possibly scamola:P ----------------------------------------------- "I am my father's daughter" evil grin Noir Enterprises Site
Molly	Posted - 2003.07.22 15:59:00 - [11] You are just a ****ed carebear of a corp which declared war to us (because of some losses) and regrets it (because of some losses). So I think you can't be objective on anything the Space Invaders post and ask you to shut up please :-). --- "Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships"
Setec	Posted - 2003.07.22 15:59:00 - [12] BTW WhiteDwarf they're not all from gate camping--a couple are people we chased down in planets, roid fields, etc. Most are at gates, because that is the only place to find people carrying valuable stuff around. They go from station -> gate -> gate -> gate -> more gates -> station. I'm tired of watching pretentious idiot carebears insult gate campers as though there's some other, better way to pirate. But yes, I would love to see some wonderful mining stories from Infinoobcorp: WhiteDwarf > Stop moving immediately. You're being survey scanned, one sec. Omber > WhiteDwarf > I said STOP ROTATING! Omber > WhiteDwarf > Ok, give me 4000 isogen or you will be destroyed. Omber > WhiteDwarf > Rotate one more time and you will be fired upon with the full force of 3 Cu Vapor mining lasers! We have you surrounded and jammed, you cannot hope to escape by rotating... Omber > WhiteDwarf > You give us no choice... (Next 40 minutes consist of Infinoobcorp mining Omber.) ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net
Molly	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:01:00 - [13] Hahaha. --- "Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships"
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:04:00 - [14] "You are just a ****ed carebear of a corp which declared war to us (because of some losses) and regrets it (because of some losses). So I think you can't be objective on anything the Space Invaders post and ask you to shut up please :-)." I don't call the shots Molly, so don't talk to me about declaring war. Oh yeah, maybe I'll finally shut up when you leave. (i.e., never gonna happen, will it?) And Setec, you're almost funny, but not really. Maybe you shouldn't quit your day job, stick to the camping/griefing, it's a better fit. "Trust No One"
Lhyda Souljacker	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:05:00 - [15] Whoever paid you 30 million to let his battleship pass needs a good podding. Jeez, then need to make a test before you get one of those things. ... That's when I reach for my revolver ...
Miso	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:07:00 - [16] White dwarf - you take Eve far far far too seriously. Its a game dude, chill out. Try this: Take a high ball glass, add crushed ice, lemon juice, 2 shots Plymouth Gin, 1 Shot of Cherry Brandy, 1 shot of Grenadine, shake it all up, sit down and drink. -------------------------------------------- Dead
Setec	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:09:00 - [17] Well Lhyda, if he hadn't paid the 30 mil for us to let his battleship pass, he would have had to pay 80+ mil for a new battleship. :) He was totally locked down and Ryo wasn't bluffing about the firepower on its way. WhiteDwarf, you're entitled to your opinion and you may even speak for the entire Mining Division of Infinicorp, powerful and feared as they are by the pyroxeres of the world, but I suspect that outside your circle of elite XeCl jockeys some people think I'm not almost funny, but all the way funny! ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net
sutty	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:09:00 - [18] what about some corp chat paste, after your members was podded by us :) ?
Molly	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:12:00 - [19] Edited by: Molly on 22/07/2003 16:15:44 --- "Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships"
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:13:00 - [20] "White dwarf - you take Eve far far far too seriously. Its a game dude, chill out" The forums are half of the EVE experience and entertainment for me. I never talk to any of you in game, so this is a great way to make fun of you all when I'm not playing. "Trust No One"
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:14:00 - [21] Well, I don't know about 'all the way funny'... .
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:17:00 - [22] "WhiteDwarf, you're entitled to your opinion and you may even speak for the entire Mining Division of Infinicorp, powerful and feared as they are by the pyroxeres of the world, but I suspect that outside your circle of elite XeCl jockeys some people think I'm not almost funny, but all the way funny!" Well, there you go trying that new fangled "thinking" again. Please, take my advice and just go do some more camping. "Trust No One"
Setec	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:21:00 - [23] Hehe Sutty you've only podded one of our guys who was on his way to Lonetrek and ran into your armada on its way out to fight the alliance... 1 cruiser vs 7 battleships is never very good odds. None of the other Venal Alliance losses in this conflict have been from Space Invaders, and losses have so far been pretty even on both sides. Good fights, though. ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net
Crepiscule	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:22:00 - [24] Setec, You may recall a post of mine called "Funny Pirate stories". It seems people take offense when you look at the humorous side of things. Maybe most of them lost their sense of humor along with their isk ? I like the stories myself. Just ignore Whitedwarf and he goes away. Feed him cookies and he just keeps coming back.
Viceroy	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:27:00 - [25] Damn whitedwarf, trying to be an ass on the forums because we own you ingame is just so lame. Everyone is here for a laugh and you`re behaving like a stupid kid. Are you an example for your corporation? Its just a game, try to have some instead of taking it so seriously -
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:28:00 - [26] you have a link handy, crep? I'd use the search feature, but... well, you know... .
sutty	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:28:00 - [27] we lost one thorax :) but yeah fights have been great fun espically the one last night ... that was BIG
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:28:00 - [28] Edited by: WhiteDwarf on 22/07/2003 16:29:47 "I like the stories myself. Just ignore Whitedwarf and he goes away. Feed him cookies and he just keeps coming back" Ahhh Yes Cremesicle. Glad you are enjoying the camping stories. Simple minds... simple pleasures... "Trust No One"
Setec	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:35:00 - [29] LOL, that's even better than my stories! Quote: Simple minds... simple pleasures... InfiniCorp: Director of Mining Operations ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net
Viceroy	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:39:00 - [30] Whitedwarf want to talk about camping? 4 of your members (2 moa, 1 thorax and a caracel)CAMPED at a gate to get me (unsuccessfully even though i CTDed), 1 of your members CAMPED in front of a station (unsuccessfully) to get me, and i never really did kill any of your people by camping, i usually warped in and killed and warped out. So please dont blab about camping like you`re all innocent, plus camping has nothing wrong with it, its the best way to pvp right now and noones ashamed cause you dont have the brains/guts to do it and keep trying to degrade it. -
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:43:00 - [31] "plus camping has nothing wrong with it, its the best way to pvp right now" Not good for the future of EVE. Except of course if you're camping to kill pirates, then it's ok. "Trust No One"
Viceroy	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:44:00 - [32] lol, you really have no clue -
Crepiscule	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:45:00 - [33] Sorry Drunk, I no longer have a link to it. It ended up turning into a flame fest anyway, like the majority of the threads lately.
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:51:00 - [34] "lol, you really have no clue" Enough conversing with the simpletons, I need to get back to work, lunch break is over... Insult ya later!! "Trust No One"
Skeeve	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:54:00 - [35] Yanno.. I have to hand it to Setec... Pirate Rogue.. Pain in the ass.. whatever you want to say, the sheer audacity of charging isk to view the chatlogs of people getting held up / destroyed is .. amazing. And by God I have to applaud his criminal ass, nicely thought of.. granted I won't be subscribing to this "Jerry Springer" type of entertainment.. but it shows inventiveness, savvy.. and ballz the size of cantaloupes.. Well done Setec... but I'd still like to collect yer bounty.. "Your Mother was a Hamster.. and your Father smelt of Elderberries!" - traditional French Insult
Master Scy	Posted - 2003.07.22 16:59:00 - [36] ROFL @ mining log. You did leave out the part where the arrogators come in to rescue the omber, and shoot the mining cruiser for half an hour while it spams shield boosters... ----------------------------- You think Marco Polo said "Damn Mongolians were camping that cave entry into the next valley the entire day, you can't get friggin anywhere in the world with those damn griefer tribes all over the place" ? -Indigo Seqi
Viceroy	Posted - 2003.07.22 17:00:00 - [37] I must protest, Mr.Setec is an example citizen of the caldari state, he has helped concord in their mission to clean the universe of pirates many times and has a 9.8 security rating. To put a bounty on such an example member of society is outrageous and illegal! If you ever insult Mr.Setec again you will hear from the Space Invaders lawyers! -
Bad Harlequin	Posted - 2003.07.22 17:03:00 - [38] Setec > That's much less than the cost of your ship. EruditeVictim > true, but you're only a single cruiser EruditeVictim > but then again you seem to have jammed my lock That whole episode is even funnier, impossible as that may seem, if you read it in an Proper British Accent. But then most things are. Which one of you was serving the tea? You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike.
Sybylle	Posted - 2003.07.22 17:03:00 - [39] Well...Even if I'm not a pirate (and don't wish to be one), Setec stories are funny (not always but most are). And I have to agree that WhiteD take it too serious...Damn...That's a game! I wouldn't be in his corp...May be it's different when playing, but as he says half of his fun is from forum Keep it cool guy...Nobody wanna run in a blockade...But it's part of the game (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period"
Viceroy	Posted - 2003.07.22 17:06:00 - [40] lol harlequin, it really does sound funny in british gentleman pirates heh -
Setec	Posted - 2003.07.22 17:13:00 - [41] WhiteDwarf, when you want to insult somebody's intelligence it helps to have credentials more impressive than "Mining Director of Infinicorp!" Otherwise nobody can take you seriously. You're just some pretentious ******* running around calling people "simpletons" instead of "jerks" and thinking that this word choice makes your insult more intelligent. It doesn't. Your lower management position in a bloated open-recruitment mining corporation doesn't give you enough clout to insult the intelligence of a band of crafty bandits. And if you do wish to insult us, you'll have to do better than that juvenile namecalling you've employed so far, even if you do use really pretentious words... ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net
Tulor	Posted - 2003.07.22 17:39:00 - [42] If whitedwarves mining stories are as funny as the one you made up Setec then I'd definately be willing to pay him 500k a week to get more of that... God I almost fell out of my chair in the library... Oh well, back to researching ancient Persia Yarrr!
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2003.07.22 17:42:00 - [43] ahahahaha, it does. toodle pip, spit spot, albert hall, good show, etc. I say, sir, you appear to have caused the non functioning of my vessel in various regards. Is there some credit transfer ritual you'd have me perform? .
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.07.22 17:43:00 - [44] IÆve a thought that the irascible Mr White Dwarf esquire has singularly failed to learn an essential truth of guerrilla marketing; that all publicity is good publicity. After all, where would an erstwhile collection of amusing robbery stories be without a willing mook to play the fool to the erudite bandit and his wise-****ing-thigh-slapping gangsters of taste and heart-pounding ribaldry eh? Sad indeed to lose the battle of wits in space and* upon the etherà By the by, its nice to see you staying around Molly mÆdear, I would so have missed the eventual opportunity to examine your vital statistics firsthandà And, Good work monsieur Setec as always; you provide a fine service to merchant adventurers daring to make better profits in marginal space à it would never do to have such ventures proceeding entirely without risk. And by the by, should your invitation yet stand then do feel free to despatch a courier; I should love to stretch my legs out on the control board of a ship with more creature comforts than a bestower for a time. In the service of beauty, JF Public Forum
The Wretch	Posted - 2003.07.22 17:44:00 - [45] Thanks for the funny chats. The Wretch Cyberdyne Systems CEO
Jash Illian	Posted - 2003.07.22 18:20:00 - [46] Setec, Molly and others chiming in on Whitedwarf: Don't bother. Whitedwarf won't ever understand that even just to camp a gate successfully it takes a greater understanding of your ship (and your target's ship) than his mining ship. That you have to know far more about the game than he does. Given a blackbird and his choice of modules/drones, he'd prolly completely **** his first blockade. He'd be lucky to come back with the ship in one piece. Give you a thorax and your choice of modules/drones and you'll come back with ore your first run out. And he'll never acknowledge why it happened: it takes more skill than he thinks to reduce a person's chances to 0 than it takes to reduce an asteroid's chances to 0. I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Prime One	Posted - 2003.07.22 18:40:00 - [47] Sementec trying to stir the pot again. The devs need to give you 0.0 dwellers something to do. What's the longest camping trip you have participated in and how many marshmellows (frigates) and weenies (starter ships) did you consume? Seriously though, what's the current pirate record for holding a gate?
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2003.07.22 18:45:00 - [48] Edited by: drunkenmaster on 22/07/2003 18:46:15 "Given a blackbird and his choice of modules/drones, he'd prolly completely **** his first blockade. He'd be lucky to come back with the ship in one piece. Give you a thorax and your choice of modules/drones and you'll come back with ore your first run out." Dunno, I was thinking that even with the BB, he'd come back with ore... <edit> lol, Prime One, you're kinda weak. .
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.07.22 18:45:00 - [49] "Give you a thorax and your choice of modules/drones and you'll come back with ore your first run out. And he'll never acknowledge why it happened: it takes more skill than he thinks to reduce a person's chances to 0 than it takes to reduce an asteroid's chances to 0" Jash, you willing to give me gate camping lessons? This game had such promise, it's a shame PvP has been dwindled down to the griefing tactic known as camping. Such a shame CCP. I had such high hopes. "Trust No One"
Molly	Posted - 2003.07.22 18:52:00 - [50] Sorry Prime One, but SI and friends usually try to stop every single ship which passes, regardless of class and equipment. And if some people try to ambush us and numbers & ship classes are equal we usually destroy them all. --- "Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships"
Yaeger	Posted - 2003.07.22 18:57:00 - [51] Let me get this Dwarf: You can camp for pirates but if they camp it's BAD BAD BAD? Lighten up and take a look at the facts, camping is the only way to actually intercept people to pvp. Which is why YOU do it to try to intercept SI. And the only one getting insulted and looking like an idiot is you. No, don't shut your mouth it's already too late. And, fore the record, I am not a pirate. "I think we all need to train spelling" "I need typing lvl 2 first, though" - Help Channel, "Now you guys can flame me. Ready..... GO!"
Molly	Posted - 2003.07.22 18:59:00 - [52] This game had such promise, it's a shame PvP has been dwindled down to the griefing tactic known as camping. I suggested already once to rename you to WhiteTroll. Trolls are not as smart as Dwarfs, and you are the most stupid Dwarf I ever met. I bet you would even call a Military Sniper a camping griefer. There is no problem with gate camping, you can equip your ship to run through a blockade, you can use bookmarks to instant jump, you can warp back from a gate once you see campers, you can go to a safe postition and call for reinforcements. Furthermore camping is done in 0.0 outside empire space mostly now, so I do not see a real problem here. --- "Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships"
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.07.22 19:19:00 - [53] Quite right Molly m'dear, the occassional spot of gate camping makes routine drudgery into an exciting jaunt into the unknown. I still get a delightful tingle down my spine when the sound of a lock-on sings warning notes from my scanner. Means trading takes real skills and a sense of professionalism to achieve without humiliating loss. For the record I trade almost exclusively in 0.0 ... all the best folks do; these empire runs are for the birds I must say. That said, 'tis a shame times look to be a-changing ... earlier this evening good master Mastema of the Space Invaders used a passive lock-on system to light up my bestower for a barrage from a battleship class vehicle at Ewok-k. Now that was a bolt from the blue ... lucky indeed the old "storm season" was swift enough to pass the blockade with a few slivers of armour still attached ;) I will shed a tear when the day of the Blackbird is done and all the rogues and brigands of marginal space are flying battleships ... Still, goes to show how profitable piracy can be in the right hands eh? All the best ... JF Public Forum
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.07.22 19:22:00 - [54] "Lighten up and take a look at the facts, camping is the only way to actually intercept people to pvp. Which is why YOU do it to try to intercept SI. And the only one getting insulted and looking like an idiot is you. No, don't shut your mouth it's already too late. And, fore the record, I am not a pirate" I've never camped a gate. Don't you worry little man, I won't shut my mouth anytime soon :) As the thoughtful SI griefers would say, have a nice day! :) "Trust No One"
Molly	Posted - 2003.07.22 19:28:00 - [55] Jade, I am glad, that you are around, if some people make jokes about my low official bounty, I always mention you and the frozen corpse deal. Regarding pilots in battleships. I for my part refuse to fly a battleship for now. Rumors are that a god like entity is using its powers to destroy assets of combat pilots. I have done some investigations at this issue and so far I can tell you the name of the god like entity. It's CCP! I tried to tell this entity not to interfere with my combat actions or to reimburse me if they do, but so far the entity refused to accept my outstanding debts. Why should it, I am a low life compared to such a mighty entity. So don't be afraid, next time we meet in a solar system I will be in a cruiser class ship for sure. --- "Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships"
Lexington Cabot	Posted - 2003.07.22 19:40:00 - [56] "This game had such promise, it's a shame PvP has been dwindled down to the griefing tactic known as camping. Such a shame CCP. I had such high hopes." What, so your corp can mine in 0.0 space without any fighter protection or worry about pvp?
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.07.22 19:50:00 - [57] Monsieur Dwarf, I must disagree with your interpretation. The Space Invaders are not "griefers" nor indeed are other working illegals in search of loot and profit and toll and bribery. "Griefers" exploit nasty glitches and bully new players from unbalanced positions of power. "Griefers" attempt to destroy the suspension of disbelief and consensual reality by using gamey tactics to make up for their evident lack of manhood elsewhere. Whats consensual about the gate robbery blockades you ask ? Well they happen in marginal space now ... where you can chose to go if you want to become stinking filthy rich m'dear ... but ya see hun, it involves an element of risk. I've seen "griefers" in eve, and have seen the consequences of their work. But labelling "honest" criminals like the Space Invaders with the same term is going to do nothing aside portraying your good self as an ass, while further confusing the difference between good quality brigands making a go of piracy and poor quality nutjobs who once damaged the suspension of disbelief for everybody. Now I appreciate its painful to lose a ship, a cargo, the seat of your pants, etc etc, but simply appreciate the gamesmanship of a job well done and lay your plans to get even if that is what you chose. But don't think to gain respect or kudos by making false accusations of "griefing" against people who are (as far as I know) doing absolutely nothing of the sort. In faith JF Public Forum
orrin	Posted - 2003.07.22 20:01:00 - [58] From a little fish that got away. Setec, you always post these very funny stories about people who you have robbed. But never any stories about the ones that get away. You probably do not remember, but a few weeks ago you and your crew had a blockade in place around egbinger. My char Orrin is coming back from deep space in a Stabber with a hold full of npc goodies. Now I was unable to turn off auto-pilot before warping into your trap (I noticed your crew in Local but too late). First thing I do is turn around. You and your 3 mates warp jam and target lock me and you cargo scan. Luckily I am to far away to be webified (I do not think anyone but you got within 10k). Then the dreaded request for conversation comes from the great Sectec. You all actually were reasonable about price but as we were ****ering about price our range was building (Orrin is fast). Then either some one failed to renew the warp jam or I got out of range and what happens? The victim slips the hook. The moral is not all prey gets caught (and auto-pilot is not your friend). In addition, you have taught me to be very careful and gave me the most excitement in EVE so far. Thx. If I see you solo in game I will transfer some ISK to you(g). I think about 21k a volley...(assuming I can lock). Orrin
Prime One	Posted - 2003.07.22 20:01:00 - [59] I know, very weak. That's why I come here. So many expert pirates hang in these type threads. I just find the pirate mind interesting to study. What do most people do when you try to stop them? Run, pay or just die. I ask that because unless the tent has just been constructed or everyone is paying, the map will start to show the location therby trimming potential profit. I also found the price going up upon more of the victim's corp members showing up very interesting as well. At that point it seems like most pirates would have just said "Anyone else shows and you die" which would also be more of a absolute now that the target is soft. Im just not sure why that warrents the additional fee? Is it more for the pirate's protection? I may just have to subscribe to gather more information. Although I do not pirate, I always thought there was some reason and strategy to it. BTW, Im the blue bear above with the poo in his eye.
M0RPHEUS	Posted - 2003.07.22 21:08:00 - [60] bah raise Molly's bounty! Ask me nicely and I won't pod you...
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.07.22 21:14:00 - [61] "But don't think to gain respect or kudos by making false accusations of "griefing" against people who are (as far as I know) doing absolutely nothing of the sort" I'm not looking for any of those things. "Trust No One"
Setec	Posted - 2003.07.22 21:47:00 - [62] Quote: What do most people do when you try to stop them? Run, pay or just die. Many of the more alert ones run. It's very disappointingly easy to run away from a blockade if you're paying attention. I'm usually the "point man" on our blockades with my blackbird full of sensor boosters to speed my lock time and propulsion jammers to lock and prevent people from warping away ASAP, but even with that highly specialized equipment some people still just get to warp away. I watch them come in and spam my lock attempts as fast as I can, but I get nothing but interference from their warping in followed by interference from their warping out. Some others use microwarpdrives, and again they've often got immunity the whole time. We're prepared to grind a microwarping ship to a halt if we can lock it, but often they've jumped before their warp-in immunity is up. It's more difficult than most people would think even to stop someships at all. And the traffic at times can be slow--15 or 20 minute lulls between ships, even at a major chokepoint. When we do stop ships, less than half actually end up paying. Many refuse the chat invite altogether, which means that they die, and many of the others simply choose to be destroyed out of spite. Others are foolish enough to think that they can fight us, which gets them killed, or that they can "play oppossum" by dropping their link, which also gets them killed. We very rarely get anything good from destroyed ships--most of their stuff blows up with the ship, and most people don't have any highly sellable loot to begin with. All in all I'd say it's a pretty even split--roughly 1/3 run, 1/3 pay, 1/3 die. Quote: I also found the price going up upon more of the victim's corp members showing up very interesting as well. Actually, he was talking about more Space Invaders showing up. We've gotta pay everyone who helps with the hold-up. :) Personally I would have just started out at the higher price. If we suspect that corp backup will be a problem, we often tell victims that they'll be killed if any of their corpmates show up on local. Quote: Setec, you always post these very funny stories about people who you have robbed. But never any stories about the ones that get away. Two reasons: 1. There are so many of them. 2. They're pretty short, boring stories. "Some guy microwarped past us. The end." In your particular case, we just screwed up and were kicking ourselves. :P That happens sometimes too. I was distracted with something else and just didn't watch your distance--dumb dumb dumb mistake. ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net
Ulstan	Posted - 2003.07.22 22:17:00 - [63] "I also found the price going up upon more of the victim's corp members showing up very interesting as well. At that point it seems like most pirates would have just said "Anyone else shows and you die" which would also be more of a absolute now that the target is soft. Im just not sure why that warrents the additional fee? Is it more for the pirate's protection?" Well the idea of pirating is, in the end, to make some money. Sure, it is the most unreliable, least efficient, most risky way to make money, but it is a way of making money. Thus there are at least some grounds for charging more, based on how many pirates there are blockading. 3 mill for one guy is a nice chunk of cash - 3 mill split 8 ways is not all that noticeable. But look at it this way - it's an encouragement for the other fellow to make up his mind, giving him a 'bonus' as it were, for speedy decision making. I'm sure you can think of real-life parallels, where things get more expensive, the closer to the deadline you get.
Fusco T	Posted - 2003.07.22 22:25:00 - [64] Per the pirates words: Pirating is the hardest career in eve. Pirating is not the most lucrative. Pirating gives a chance at social interaction through creating bad as possible effects on others. So those that choose the pirating career? Then post some fairly un-funny convo's when they have gained the upper hand on (in their own words) 'unaware people'. Then charge people to view these in the form of a subscription. What does that say about people who would purchase those? Not only do they get off on seeing others misery, but they can't achieve their griefing goals so must pay someone else to experience this for them? Sounds like a new disorder a-hole by proxy. Setec likes to talk like he's all that. However admittedly only seeks battles wherein he is nearly guaranteed victory. This is the same corp who lost 2 cruisers while gate camping. How? Who knows, ask setec. From where I stand you are a group of lower than average players who think griefing others is funny. Kind of pathetic really. Anyway good luck with your subsricptions.
Robotek Hybrid	Posted - 2003.07.22 22:33:00 - [65] Edited by: Robotek Hybrid on 22/07/2003 22:34:23 well i hate to put every1's panties in a bunch but so far( for lack of better expression) space invaders havent been able to pluk infinicorp, only here and there no bundles yet. So far i know of 2 confirmed SI kills 1 badger, and 1 bestower. Heck i was trapped in a pirate controlled location .... and i hate to say it lost my ship ... to npc pirates...( which is very sad) but so far SA has been fruitless in their pirate campeign. ... actually it seems they making more money from --- protecting their "unammed location" and killing pirates there than actually pirating. If you have any real kills take a picture and stik it on a board of shame or something for every1 to see. low low very low nobody in infinicorp .. apparently also known as infinoob corp ... i dont get it .. is that a play on words? --------------------------------------------
Viceroy	Posted - 2003.07.22 22:37:00 - [66] Edited by: Viceroy on 22/07/2003 22:42:03 i shot you down myself, you and 2 more infinicorp industrials around your `hq`. I podded 2 of them and the last one got away. I also shot a thorax, a moa, a celestis and punisher belonging to your corp down to armor/hull (the moa got away with the least damage i think). In this period i was NEVER shot down by any of your members. I was chased, camped and ambushed but these were all unsuccessful attempts (even though i CTDed at a gate with 4 of your members at it i managed to escape). And thats just me, im only 1 member. So our war with infinicorp isnt going THAT bad is it? -
Setec	Posted - 2003.07.22 22:38:00 - [67] Quote: What does that say about people who would purchase those? Not only do they get off on seeing others misery, Perhaps it's entertaining to them? It's hardly "others' misery" unless those people take the game far too seriously. I know that in the past when I've lost ships I wasn't miserable. All interesting stories involve some sort of conflict, some sort of gains or losses or characters changing significantly. They're all the more interesting if they're true, and there's less need to feel empathy for victims in a "true" story if it's something that happened in a game. When you watch the Super Bowl, do you consider it sadistic that you watch the ending? Do you thrive off the misery of the losing team? Surely the losing team is more miserable at the end of the Super Bowl than some guy whose fake spaceship got robbed in a video game. Aren't you sadistic for watching that encounter that ends with such misery for someone? Quote: Setec likes to talk like he's all that. However admittedly only seeks battles wherein he is nearly guaranteed victory. Somebody needs to brush up on his Sun Tzu. Piracy for us in Eve is not just running out looking to pick a fight--it's our livelihood, our way of making money. We must try to minimize our risk of death or we cannot turn a profit. And even with all the caution in the world we're still at far more risk in our money-making than any miner or trader. Quote: This is the same corp who lost 2 cruisers while gate camping. How? Who knows, ask setec. That's only happened to us once--we were just getting set up, not all there yet, and a big well-armed corp fleet warped in on its way back from NPC-hunting. We stuck it out and fought--we lost two blackbirds, they lost one rupture, pretty even monetary losses for both sides. Quote: From where I stand you are a group of lower than average players who think griefing others is funny. Kind of pathetic really. From where I stand, you're a useless little carebear who belongs in the Disney MMORPG, not Eve. ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net
Jash Illian	Posted - 2003.07.22 22:44:00 - [68] Edited by: Jash Illian on 22/07/2003 22:44:38 Quote: Somebody needs to brush up on his Sun Tzu. You mean this part? Quote: Generally in warfare: If ten times the enemy's strength, surround them; if five times, attack them; if double, divide them; if equal, be able to fight them; if fewer, be able to evade them; if weaker, be able to avoid them www.sonshi.com I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Aknot	Posted - 2003.07.22 23:15:00 - [69] Quote: TattlingCEO > well............ in that case, he will be KoS Setec > Golly Setec > Last thing I wanted was to be KoS to... um... let me check Setec > the CorpIveNeverHeardOf! :) Very nice, perhaps I should sign up to your newsletter.
Fusco T	Posted - 2003.07.22 23:26:00 - [70] Suberbowl? How is that an analogy for what you do? Yes if a pro football team ambushed a high school team right outside the locker room I could sort of see it. So you feel that chasing off pirates from gates is carebear? Or everyone NOT a pirate is carebear? Using that brilliant logic half the gates in eve would be camped and no one would ever see each other because they'd all be camping a gate! You're absolutely right about it being a game, then again so is life just different relative sizes and percieved importances. If you don't think people feel real life emotions when playing games then you're alot more stupid than I orignally thought. Maybe you should walk into the losing teams locker room at the end of the superbowl and tell them all to stop whining because 'it's just a game'. Here's my own example: I used to be a pretty good 'descent' player back in the day of KALI and KAHN. I wasn't a member of a ladder group but used to kick most of their asses except for a dev named mark. Point being when I would encounter someone in game that was clearly not as good as I was, well it wasn't very fun for me nor for him I imagine. So I would take it down a notch and let the guys score some hits. Whenever I wouldn't do this the other player would simply log off in short order. Not very fun. I know you will constantly try to justify your position and that anyone who disagrees with you will likely be the brunt of some lame unoriginal flame like 'carebear'. However, taking the viewpoint of others in the game and trying to create a mutually competitive environment can have it's own rewards. You can call me whatever you like but I still haven't been stupid enough to lose a cruiser while camping a gate, no matter what your lame excuses are.
Revolution	Posted - 2003.07.22 23:51:00 - [71] lol
Intruders	Posted - 2003.07.23 00:39:00 - [72] Molly Gallente Space Invaders Posted - 22/07/2003 18:52:00 Sorry Prime One, but SI and friends usually try to stop every single ship which passes, regardless of class and equipment. And if some people try to ambush us and numbers & ship classes are equal we usually destroy them all. Oh phleeeeeeease. Come on now guys, you want ppl to take you seriously? You just hug the gate really tight and... jump. That "regrdless any equipment" made me lauph, even most. And btw, pirating the gates is the most boring stuff there is! Just sitting there and waiting, dont try to make this appear as a prime time, not even mention the money you make, err you dont make. Dont quit your day jobs. :) Which is prolly alt. miners hehe Every man lives..but not every man dies! My sig sux
Wrangler	Posted - 2003.07.23 00:40:00 - [73] It's amazing how a thread that was supposed to be some fun stuff gets turned into a discussion where people just argue. Anyway, keep away from making flames and trolling or we will lock this thread. [Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators]
Molly	Posted - 2003.07.23 01:09:00 - [74] Edited by: Molly on 23/07/2003 01:09:27 "You just hug the gate really tight and... jump. That "regrdless any equipment" made me lauph, even most." Never heard of you? Who are you? We try to stop every single ship which passes. What's so funny about it? "And btw, pirating the gates is the most boring stuff there is! Just sitting there and waiting, dont try to make this appear as a prime time, not even mention the money you make, err you dont make. Dont quit your day jobs. :)" If you don't like it, don't do it. People blockading and people running blockades do have have fun as far as I got it. I think you are not the one to define what "prime time" is or not. It's always subjective. --- "Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships"
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.07.23 01:20:00 - [75] Well, m'dear Molly I 'twas certainly excited to see your name in lights in targ and close range scan again this evening. A swift blockade run after a night out over a glass or two of red wine was positively divine. Jumping unarmed ships into known ambush points for indecent profits is exciting and certainly gets the heart pounding! Excellent stuff - I really enjoy the thrill of the chase from the perspective of the quarry ... so much so, I'll almost regret the change of perspective when my battleship skills are finally done. Elsewise, I agree entirely with the polaris chap though ... no need to lose manners and civility of comms upon an amusing and light-hearted thread. If people want to teach Setec and the invaders a lesson they should do so with starships and cunning tactics, not poorly rationalised ranting and froth - lets keep a sense of persepctive eh chaps? Peace and love m'dears - and a bullet for the tyrant's brain! JF Public Forum
Crepiscule	Posted - 2003.07.23 01:29:00 - [76] See what I mean?
Robotek Hybrid	Posted - 2003.07.23 03:01:00 - [77] Edited by: Robotek Hybrid on 23/07/2003 03:04:46 Edited by: Robotek Hybrid on 23/07/2003 03:03:51 Edited by: Robotek Hybrid on 23/07/2003 03:03:11 Viceroy : i specifically remember saying a badger in a list of killed ships ( that would be mine buddy) btw nice job with the brain aaaaaaalmost had something there lol just playing with ya...oh and i was the 1 that gotaway in a pod wait we had a celestis? hhmm ppl getting new ships as soon as i log is strange... and a thorax... and a punisher? wow I would like names for these ppl i mean cmon u have their corpses right? --------------------------------------------
Sandwan	Posted - 2003.07.23 03:31:00 - [78] I'll admit Robo smokes way too much pot, but you SI guys are a little off. Viceroy - When we were chasing you we too crashed to desktop and I ended up 60 km away from the fight. Only Tenashi was quick to get back on and from what I saw got you down to well under 10% on her own before you jumped away. You guys wasted a moa today, we came with whatt we had in the area at the time to get you back. Our side - Rual in an amaar cruiser with the drones and stuff(dont know name) and a blackbird(me). Also two frigates, a tristan and a merlin we let come along. SI - A blackbrid(ryo), a moa(viceroy), a frigate(ulwhatever), and a thorax(molly, though somewhat damaged). We fought for a bit, you killed binky the wonder drone(you bastards) and then you guys ran... seemed like a fair fight to me so why teh running action? Oh yeah and did I manage to jam either viceroy or ryo? I couldnt tell and am somewhat new to the EW profession. Anyways looking forward to a fight where you actually stay and duke it out. -- Infinin00b 17th Light infantry Brigade - Electronic Warfare Specialist - You could say I'm good at jamming the bizatches... but you'd be wrong
Kashre	Posted - 2003.07.23 03:42:00 - [79] Quote: From where I stand, you're a useless little carebear who belongs in the Disney MMORPG, not Eve. Disney has a MMORPG?!?!?! Personally, I love Space Invaders. Their methods are vastly more entertaining than Those Other pirate corps. And they talk smack a lot better than Those Other pirate corps too. Not that I wouldnt love to kick Setecs ass up around his ears one day, but he's just much more personable than Those Other pirates. And he's hit the nail on the head a couple times in this thread : You can't take this game too seriously. If you loose a cruiser, oh well. If you loose a battleship, well, maybe go take a walk to calm down, but remember, in the end, its just a game. +++ It's called "low security space" for a reason.
Xenovetica	Posted - 2003.07.23 04:51:00 - [80] "Setec > I believe it just did. I'm a pirate. That makes me judge, jury, and executioner." Funny ****. Regardless of my distaste for SI, good job with the logs, and I hope your ISK for laughs business goes well. Meanwhile, Molly, "M'Dear"! I'm glad to see you haven't left yet, even after you got my hopes up. ); After we get through battling the staggering odds in Fountain, I'll have to pay you a visit. (:
Revolution	Posted - 2003.07.23 05:10:00 - [81] hehe, i think molly needs to run eve windowed and keep www.kleenex.com open in the background
Molly	Posted - 2003.07.23 05:13:00 - [82] "You guys wasted a moa today, we came with whatt we had in the area at the time to get you back." No. We wasted a Moa, a Badger and a Merlin (?) afair today and some other ships the other days. "Our side - Rual in an amaar cruiser with the drones and stuff(dont know name) and a blackbird(me). Also two frigates, a tristan and a merlin we let come along." Nice, nice. "SI - A blackbrid(ryo), a moa(viceroy), a frigate(ulwhatever), and a thorax(molly, though somewhat damaged)". Please, do not drink and fight, I was in a a damaged Blackbird and was only passing by as I warped to the gate. Even if my mates jumped I managed it to waste one of your drones :P. "Anyways looking forward to a fight where you actually stay and duke it out." No. You decided to declare war to us out of the sudden and we will use our tactics to destroy your assets while keeping ours safe. That's the difference between you and us. By declaring war to us you have sent a lot of your corp mates into an unneeded risk. Afair SI hasn't started any active actions against you guys and once we do it in the future you will ask us nicely to stop it :-). --- "Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships"
Molly	Posted - 2003.07.23 05:24:00 - [83] Edited by: Molly on 23/07/2003 05:24:35 I think Evolution should go back to carebear mining instead of camping gates with urinated Armageddons. So far I have met your pathetic Battleship fleet several times and I am not impressed very much how you perform. I know other smaller corps with Battleships which are far more lethal than you. And I am not talking about SI here :). Back to mining guys. --- "Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships"
Revolution	Posted - 2003.07.23 05:30:00 - [84] face it molly, you and your crap clan, your crap 10 corp alliance got raped, pillaged and owned by 10 of our guys over 3 days. sore bum maybe?
Bas Rutten	Posted - 2003.07.23 05:34:00 - [85] People tend to take any multiplayer game too serious ... has been my experience in some fps as well so it can only have to do with losing to another human being. This one now being perfectly clear to me, it explains some ingame and forum flaming (doesn¦t justify anything though) ... it¦s kinda psychological. No one wants to be the loser of any PvP ... hence no one wants to lose in any situation in RL as well. In Eve though losing isk is more or less losing time someone spent, mostly annoying time mining/trading/hunting npc. So that does add some spice to engagements, mainly AFTER an engagement took place. So I kinda understand WHY ppl are upset ... although most are in a pathetic way. All people should finally realize that everyone playing Eve is paying to play ... and if all is done within the rules of the game (piracy even being advertised) how can anyone dare to tell ppl how to play this game? That escapes me. It¦s a matter of the game mechanics ... piracy seems to be (never tried it) only efficient through gate camping ... so it¦s legit. There ARE ways to avoid camped gates, there ARE ways to run blockades (even break them) ... so no one is forced to run head first into trouble. Then there are those guys who continously mistake real persons with the characters they portrait - heavily insulting or even threatening the real persons in front of the screen. Aren¦t those guys griefers as well, ruining the fun for other ppl? Or would anyone still have the same amount of fun when it happened to you? Doubtful. I¦d like to ask those pirates who had this before ... if you were even more spammed by such msgs, would this game still be fun for you, noticing that your style of PLAYING (had to capital it to again make sure what Eve is all about) draws such reactions? To come to a close, if CCP would nerf PvP even more or completely drag the pirates out of this game, regarding that corp wars aren¦t really working properly due to some reasons atm, I am convinced that we would see Eve die in no time, not only being abandoned by those looking for some PvP or playing a bad guy, but especially not being cared for by possible new subscribers. If that is what you want, keep whining. ____________________________________ Deny the Urge - brutal Death from Germoney
Setec	Posted - 2003.07.23 05:55:00 - [86] Quote: face it molly, you and your crap clan, your crap 10 corp alliance got raped, pillaged and owned by 10 of our guys over 3 days. LOL. I wouldn't call it raped, pillaged, and owned at all. You took a big fleet of battleships and had a couple big battles with whoever our alliance could send at the time, and there weren't a lot of losses on either side. Both sides just lost a few cruisers, no big deal. Both sides had to run once or twice. It was pretty even overall, and there were some fun fights. We certainly made a good showing to come out of that with relatively even losses considering how outnumbered we were in the battleship department. I don't know why you need to talk trash like you really kicked some ass, when we just had some fun skirmishes that weren't too damaging to either side. I report on events truthfully and without exaggeration, but it's amazing how many of my opponents refuse to do the same. When we win I happily state it, and when we lose I take no shame in admitting we've learned a lesson or made a mistake. And when we've had some good fair fights I don't embellish the results. Oh, and when I signed on this evening after being offline all day I heard Evolution was claiming they'd podded me today. I guess I've got to check that rumor out... maybe somebody doesn't know a jettisoned pod when he sees one? :P ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net
Revolution	Posted - 2003.07.23 05:57:00 - [87] yeah we lost one thorax we killed 15 ships from various venal clans.
Ywev	Posted - 2003.07.23 06:09:00 - [88] Hmm molly didn't ya quit like last week? I was worried, that i wasn't going to be able to pod you, but since your back its cool. Setec, You have issues... Pod ya later.. Ywev
Nootami	Posted - 2003.07.23 06:42:00 - [89] Setec should have his own radio show. Originally by: Cortex Reaver [22:39:59] [Oi]Nootami1 joined channel [22:40:02] [Oi]Nootami1 quit Oh,look! Someone joined for a whopping .3 seconds! -CR
Setec	Posted - 2003.07.23 08:08:00 - [90] Who doesn't have issues? :) ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net
Athule Snanm	Posted - 2003.07.23 08:39:00 - [91] Of course there are other conversation which the SI might want to keep quiet about...I'm afraid I don't have a log of this one as it was in local, I hope I got the name right for the convo: Athule Snanm> meep meep Ryoko> nooooooo Sorry it's not longer, when running blockades you tend to go fairly quickly :-) _______________________________ Doomheim - EVE's only hygiene!
Ryoko	Posted - 2003.07.23 09:15:00 - [92] lol Athule. MWD is beyond my limitations when solo. Your group does seem to like that MWD also. Did you know that micro-warp drives can cause brain damage and even scoliosis? My "nooooo" was me trying to stop you from damaging yourself further. Just trying to save all of you traders out there from harm, Ryoko
Lexs	Posted - 2003.07.23 09:26:00 - [93] Setec, i'm curious. When you 'soften' them up, how 'soft' do you get them to? In expensive cruisers and battleships, repairs cost a ****load so its more of a double loss on your isk. Not that you'd care too much ___________________________________
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.07.23 09:32:00 - [94] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 23/07/2003 09:33:30 Most thoughtful Mademoiselle Ryoko; but you may be mistaken on certain counts. Micro Warp Drives are noisey, unsightly, and asthetically displeasing artefacts at best, and as such we rarely fit them outside of traverse mode on cruisers and battleships. I personally despise the things; and thus you may be assured that when I blew past Mastema and the Space Invader blockade in a blur of nerves and wine late last night, I did so entirely at conventional burner and overdrive-inspired 1500 mps ... That said I must congratulate good master Mastema on making the experience a more perilous one than is usual. The presence of passive weapons locking battleships is certainly adding a frission to the crossing. Always in the service of beauty... JF Public Forum
Athule Snanm	Posted - 2003.07.23 10:08:00 - [95] MWD? How terribly passÚ! _______________________________ Doomheim - EVE's only hygiene!
Bambi	Posted - 2003.07.23 10:28:00 - [96] I would just like to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. It filled up at least 20 mins of my working day reading it all, and kept me entertained. If God made us to be just like him, then God is dumb and maybe a little ugly on the side...[F.Z]
CT BadIronTree	Posted - 2003.07.23 10:34:00 - [97] Most off pirates are chikens... there are more in numbers and in power.... and kill hopeless people that pass by.... when you try with like 5-6 people (week cruisers) to kill 3 pirates in a stargate they Fcking run for their lives... do you know how dificult is to huntdown pirates? or to wait 2 hours out of a station there are nothing that bulys that when they find it hard to kill someone they run.... THIS IS NOT PvP this is***vs kid. Come assh* and fight one time 1 vs 1 when you web someone you kill all his shield and armor... so he will not shot back.YOU are a girl that afreid to die. i will never pay, take the 5 mining lasers and put them in your *** you dont even mine let me fight back im not a noob i play this game since beta 5 i have only one's lost a ship and got poded (im a miner with cool ship that can kill eny NPC pirate)and that was a shulte... Lord jap killed me with 4 other people when we try to jump together and pass throw... ok is lord zap :) but i die in 1 sec (bad new ship ... i was testing it speed, just buy it) they have autolock autoshot stuff on his ship? he is ok the best pirate in game (bad way to break you pod virginity :P ) they pod first ask question later... and the 5 people poded instadly in 1 sec all dead sorry for my bad english ... im from Greece ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
Siest Pelan	Posted - 2003.07.23 12:50:00 - [98] Setec, if I'm EVER going to be attacked by pirates, I want it to be you guys. That was the most funny read in a loooong time. Alas, I cannot afford the ISK to pay for further laughs, as 1-4 hours game time a week never really makes you a rich man, so please keep posting short versions here. Thumbs up for making EVE a more fun place. Too many peeps taking all this WAY to seriously. Siest Pelan, noob supreme
Riddari	Posted - 2003.07.23 13:05:00 - [99] Looks like the ISK isn't flowing into the SI coffers if they are reduced to sell subscriptions to chat logs (that they might even manufacture themselves). ¼©¼ a history
Setec	Posted - 2003.07.23 13:06:00 - [100] Quote: Setec, i'm curious. When you 'soften' them up, how 'soft' do you get them to? In expensive cruisers and battleships, repairs cost a ****load so its more of a double loss on your isk. If they don't have repair modules available, that's their problem. :) We soften them up to about 25% hull usually, so that if they try any funny business we can kill them in a couple more volleys. We have to do that quite a bit. Lots of people seem to think it would be cute to just close the window and hope we don't realize they've gone linkdead. What they don't know is that while their ship still floats in space, they disappear from chat immediately, so we have 2 full minutes to blow the ship up after they've faked linkdeath. Others have corpmates jump in to try to bail them out or something. It's important for us to be able to kill them the instant things turn sour. It's for our safety. The repair bill is their problem. :) ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net
Viceroy	Posted - 2003.07.23 13:26:00 - [101] Robotek i killed 3 indies, the others i only shot down to armor/hull before they had to "leave" (as i stated before). The moa was T Hawat, we fought in front of a station, I had him down to ~10% sheilds when he had to run after the sentry guns started to punish him for using heavy missiles. the celestis was Tenashi and he was down to armor before he used his MWD to get out of jamming range and warp away, then tenashi came back with a Thorax and got shot down to 50% hull before hitting the abs to get out of warp jam range and get away again. The punisher was some n00b i believe, he was nearly dead when he docked, and yesterday me, ryoko and ulstan shot down a nice little moa with lotsa 250mm gauss` that now i use BTW your member Raul something talks a lot of smack on local, he talked for like 20 minutes in a pathetic attempt to provoke me into fighting them after infini "ambushed" me with 3 cruisers. I assume your friend was quite excited, as he was using harsh language and hitting the enter key every 5 words, please remind him that this is only a GAME and tell him to relax a bit ] So at the end of the day, you lost a moa with a 10mil setup at least, and we got a 5mil gun and a lot of smack talk from a nervous kid GG with the war! I must mention that it wasnt a clever move to declare war on us, as now you have to protect your afk indies in 1.0 space But in the end, its only a game -
trap	Posted - 2003.07.23 14:33:00 - [102] Edited by: trap on 23/07/2003 14:33:33 Well as a member of the alliance and a friend to Space Invaders our corps have worked together various times and they are top notch pirates. They are not griefers looking to ruin gameplay... they simply play their part as a pirate very well. WhiteDwarf simply has issues do his small height, small funny bone, and his ah other small bone. Anybody that has issues with SI feel free to deal with The Gang... we sell insurance against pirates and ship destruction ---------------------------------------------- [ 2003.11.20 05:35:28 ] Jade Constantine > looks like you blasted the crap out of a load of our ships again
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.07.23 15:00:00 - [103] "WhiteDwarf simply has issues do his small height, small funny bone, and his ah other small bone" Actually, I'm pretty tall, and have a rather large *****, thank you very much. My name comes from the astronomical term for a star past it's prime, has nothing to do with short people found in D&D games. The gang are simply griefers, just like the chumps of SI = NOT IMPRESSED "Trust No One"
Setec	Posted - 2003.07.23 15:12:00 - [104] Quote: My name comes from the astronomical term for a star past it's prime, it's = it is its = belonging to it Quote: The gang are simply griefers, just like the chumps of SI = NOT IMPRESSED Why don't you go mine some omber to impress everyone? Show off your pretty rock. Come to the forum with stories of how you fired up your Cu vapor on some scordite and reduced that rock to rubble in mere hours, then hauled it off in an indy to refine! And then you did it again, and again, and again! Man, you're good at tricking scordite. What suckers those 'roids are for your cunning tactics. I bow before your greatness, o almighty miner-king... ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.07.23 15:21:00 - [105] "I bow before your greatness, o almighty miner-king..." Now that's more like it. Finally getting the kind of respect I fully deserve from the peasant class. "Trust No One"
Sybylle	Posted - 2003.07.23 15:24:00 - [106] Hehe... I always thank your name was regarding the star class known as white dwarf...Never thank of something related to D&D or LOTR BTW this kind of star can collapse and become a Black Hole, something that'd be great in EVE (for instance...the only way to travel to Jove ) I'm not speaking of a**hole here nor insulting you WD (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period"
trap	Posted - 2003.07.23 15:36:00 - [107] Edited by: trap on 23/07/2003 15:36:30 "Actually, I'm pretty tall, and have a rather large *****, thank you very much." The fact you have to say it, just reinforces the fact that it is not true. "The gang are simply griefers, just like the chumps of SI = NOT IMPRESSED" Obviously you must be pretty new to say that The Gang & Space Invaders are griefers... you must not know too much or read the forums very often. But since its apparent you are lacking in personality, a sense of humor, and definitely intelligence I will not even waste anymore time responding to you. I certainly hope we meet in a asteroid field. ---------------------------------------------- [ 2003.11.20 05:35:28 ] Jade Constantine > looks like you blasted the crap out of a load of our ships again
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.07.23 15:41:00 - [108] Edited by: WhiteDwarf on 23/07/2003 15:41:20 "The fact you have to say it, just reinforces the fact that it is not true" Not true, would never lie about such things. But nor will I give you my personal stats on a game forum. Doesn't really help out the EVE comunity at all. Oh, and thanks for never responding to any of my future posts, I look forward not hearing from you. "Trust No One"
Mastema	Posted - 2003.07.23 16:17:00 - [109] WhiteDwarf > Stop moving immediately. You're being survey scanned, one sec. Omber > WhiteDwarf > I said STOP ROTATING! Omber > WhiteDwarf > Ok, give me 4000 isogen or you will be destroyed. Omber > WhiteDwarf > Rotate one more time and you will be fired upon with the full force of 3 Cu Vapor mining lasers! We have you surrounded and jammed, you cannot hope to escape by rotating... Omber > WhiteDwarf > You give us no choice... (Next 40 minutes consist of Infinoobcorp mining Omber.) LOL!! Mastema Research with Duvolle Laboratories or you'll end up in the meat grinder!
trap	Posted - 2003.07.23 16:42:00 - [110] Yea thats by far the best story I have seen yet! ---------------------------------------------- [ 2003.11.20 05:35:28 ] Jade Constantine > looks like you blasted the crap out of a load of our ships again
Ryoko	Posted - 2003.07.23 18:59:00 - [111] lol Athule. That many afterburners is beyond my limitations when solo. Your group does seem to like that many afterburners also. Did you know that afterburners can cause brain damage and even scoliosis? My "nooooo" was me trying to stop you from damaging yourself further. Just trying to save all of you traders out there from harm, Ryoko
Robotek Hybrid	Posted - 2003.07.23 19:08:00 - [112] viceroy ... 1)so far u have only podded 2 ppl and done minor damage in ships so that is 1 celestis .. ( who the hell cares about that) and according to you 2 moas, 3 indys ( 1 being mine ggrr) so far we havent been able to attack and succesfully annhialate you ( congrats on the hiding skills) * no offense* only your minor members i think 3 pod kills but dont worry we will ... uh do .. something... uh ... blame the pot --------------------------------------------
Blivius	Posted - 2003.07.23 19:19:00 - [113] Setec, I usually read your posts in good humor. Find them quite enjoyable even. But in this one you gotta lot of miner-hate going on. What's up with that? If it's just whitedwarf you got the problem with then I understand.
Falhofnir	Posted - 2003.07.23 19:20:00 - [114] anyone wanna buy my story where 5/6 cruisers and a megathron battleship from si/thegang/vg flee 20 seconds after 2 lvl1 battleships and a cruiser of ours jumped them ? oh wait, you know everything now, this wasn't a very long story :/
Molly	Posted - 2003.07.23 19:30:00 - [115] Edited by: Molly on 23/07/2003 19:30:36 "anyone wanna buy my story where 5/6 cruisers and a megathron battleship from si/thegang/vg flee 20 seconds after 2 lvl1 battleships and a cruiser of ours jumped them ? oh wait, you know everything now, this wasn't a very long story :/" I have to admint this was a skillful attack. Anyway: - You warped in with a bookmark in jump range to the gate, which means you would have jump before losing one of your ships too. No risk in the attack. - Not that bloomy please, we have had 1 BS and a 4 cruisers. - I am not there to fight incoming fleets (especially not Armageddons with 1 second lock time, pounding my light Blackbird from close distance), but to make ISK. And I will not start to tell stories how your Scorpion pilot tried to jam my BB once and had to run to the gate after I jammed it and 2 other SI cruisers warped in. Oh wait, you know everything now, this wasn't a very long story :P. --- "Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships"
Ebil Pirate	Posted - 2003.07.23 19:37:00 - [116] omg sweet. reminds me of my old beta days. :) '''''''''''''''' Ebil pirate has no fear becuz she has lots of beer.
Fusco T	Posted - 2003.07.23 20:12:00 - [117] admint = toward or near a mint. admit = to make known, confess. Sorry but I couldn't resist. :)
Anderi Bourdieu	Posted - 2003.07.23 20:47:00 - [118] Just wanted to get in this my 2 isk before this dragging topic is locked down: Molly: You are a bore...stop crashing the party. Setec: Your stories usually are entertaining. But these camping stories are, well...kinda boring. Sorry. Maybe you should have selected the more entertaining ones? Of course, maybe there aren't any? ----------------------------------------------- 11/17/04 Are Formal Contracts in yet? Divisional Wallets? Taxes? BP lockdown?
Scrapyard Jack	Posted - 2003.07.23 21:24:00 - [119] Scrapyard Jack doesn't have Issues.
Falhofnir	Posted - 2003.07.23 21:43:00 - [120] "And if some people try to ambush us and numbers & ship classes are equal we usually destroy them all." yeah, right.
Ulstan	Posted - 2003.07.23 22:13:00 - [121] "Our side - Rual in an amaar cruiser with the drones and stuff(dont know name) and a blackbird(me). Also two frigates, a tristan and a merlin we let come along. SI - A blackbrid(ryo), a moa(viceroy), a frigate(ulwhatever), and a thorax(molly, though somewhat damaged)." I was the frigate. Molly was in a Blackbird, not a Thorax, and wasn't even there when the fight started - she warped in after and thus we weren't as coordinated as we could have been. Rual was in an Arbitrator, I know you guys had a Tristan(Evilbear?), and I think Warpigg was in a MoA. Those are the only three I targetted :p "We fought for a bit, you killed binky the wonder drone(you bastards) and then you guys ran... seemed like a fair fight to me so why teh running action?" Well my armor was about half gone when word was given to jump out. We didn't run away when you warped in, we stayed around and fought until it seemed clear we'd be losing ships to stay longer. And we try to avoid losing ships. ;) From my perspective, I was on entirely the wrong target, and Viceroy was getting jammed. So that left us with just a little bit of firepower vs quite a bit more :D "Oh yeah and did I manage to jam either viceroy or ryo? I couldnt tell and am somewhat new to the EW profession." I think you jammed Viceroy, which was one reason why we felt it would be tactically wise to retreat. (Viceroy was totally not equipped for PvP action, and came along just for fun). "Anyways looking forward to a fight where you actually stay and duke it out." Just the other day I stayed and duked it out with an infinicorp Merlin until one of us was dead! :D Merlin vs Merlin action can't ask for much fairer than that. Though looking at the debris afterwards I think I had a better loadout. And I was running a warp disruptor to make sure he stayed and duked it out too. ;) In general, if it is looking pretty obvious someone is going to lose their ship, you shouldn't expect them to stay around too much longer. They'll try to warp/jump out. Bring along warp scramblers if you want to stop them, and try to get cccp to do something about jumping through gates :) Anyway that was my first multi ship PvP action so I had fun :) Stupid swarm of drones :P Although Evil Bear called me a sucky pilot :(
Molly	Posted - 2003.07.24 03:27:00 - [122] ""And if some people try to ambush us and numbers & ship classes are equal we usually destroy them all." yeah, right." What part of my statement do you not understand? The word usually maybe? Or the word equal? --- "Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships"
Intruders	Posted - 2003.07.24 03:34:00 - [123] Molly Gallente Space Invaders Posted - 23/07/2003 01:09:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by: Molly on 23/07/2003 01:09:27 "You just hug the gate really tight and... jump. That "regrdless any equipment" made me lauph, even most." Never heard of you? Who are you? No one particularly, especialy no one who would try to "be someone" through a game :> btw what happened to your hair? Every man lives..but not every man dies! My sig sux
Sandwan	Posted - 2003.07.24 04:17:00 - [124] Yeah I was horribly off on the ships there, hehe. Honestly didn't know my own mate warpigg was there till I asked today. Anyways, good times guys, been fun couple of days. Beats mining and agent missions for sure. -- Infinin00b 17th Light infantry Brigade - Electronic Warfare Specialist - You could say I'm good at jamming the bizatches... but you'd be wrong
Setec	Posted - 2003.07.24 04:36:00 - [125] Quote: But in this one you gotta lot of miner-hate going on. What's up with that? If it's just whitedwarf you got the problem with then I understand. It's just Whitedwarf. He's the director of mining operations for his bloated newbie corporation, so he seems to have a pretty big ego and enjoys belittling the difficulty of piracy whilst he pecks away at some scordite. Apparently that's a much more academic occupation in this game. I'm not sure why--you'd have to ask him. ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net
Quantum Matrix	Posted - 2003.07.24 05:09:00 - [126] I wish there were more people like Setec. I was in a system where Setec was holding up people at a gate. I had heard about him and his gang so I opened a chat. Much to my surprise, he was very talkative and we had a nice chat. A few weeks later I was heading out to do some NPC hunting when I encountered him at a gate, going the same way I was. Again, I opened a conversation and we chatted again, this time about hunting NPCs. He wasn't in pirate mode and thus he let me be. True to form, the last time I encountered Setec at a gate he was in full pirate mode. I was in a Typhoon, and got Webbed, jammed, scrambled, the works. He didn't try and chat with me, I'm assuming he wanted to soften me up. I didn't have much to counter his methods with, so I just limped to the gate and jumped. I opened another convo with him, and once again, pirate though he was, he's not above talking with his prey.:) (although he wouldn't tell me what he uses to Jam with) Setec is a purely classy pirate. He'll take your gold and your watch, but he'll let you live... so long as you're smart. Eve needs more folks like him. :) -QM, Space Invader Fodder What do we want? Brains! When do we want them? Brains!
Maud Dib	Posted - 2003.07.24 13:47:00 - [127] As I sit in the cramped cabin of my Indy laughing at the tals recounted by Setec, I watch my vapor turn another rock to ruble and wonder if I made the wrong career choice.
Setec	Posted - 2003.07.24 17:51:00 - [128] Edited by: Setec on 24/07/2003 17:53:27 Hehe QM, thanks for the props, though you mighta been singing a different tune when you saw what I'd have charged for that Typhoon if I'd caught it. :) Unfortunately I was all by myself so I couldn't hope to hold you still enough long enough to kill you. Another SI ship or two and you woulda been looking at a 30 mil bill. :) That was the first chance I've had to try to hold up a battleship. Not too long after that a couple of my corpmates actually got one for 30 mil. ___________________________________________ Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net
Crownan	Posted - 2003.07.24 20:45:00 - [129] I appreciated the stories. However, I don't appreciate that it seems that anyone who doesn't like SI or their profession is flamed as a "carebear" (that just shows pre-pubescent ignorance) or a "miner" (a necessary profession that shouldn't be ridiculed). Generally, I do think you play the game very well from what I read. I just take exception with this.
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.07.25 00:04:00 - [130] Agreed monsieur Crownan, To my mind the excessive categorisation of arguments by stereotypical labelling is devaluing the quality of overall debate. ætis a thing most mean and shameless to borrow a common threadbare term to beat upon the foemanÆs noggin when the linguistic repertoire available is so rich to overflowing possibility; nithling-dinket-mongering in the worst degree, and fuddy poltroonery to boot! But seriously à To name a trader ôafkö or ôcarebearö is as bad as naming an honest workaday pirate a ôgrieferö or ôexploiterö. I have no respect for those that whine and whinge; adaption and stiff upper lip mÆdears à ætis truly the only way. In the service of beauty, JF Public Forum
Jash Illian	Posted - 2003.07.25 00:38:00 - [131] Edited by: Jash Illian on 25/07/2003 00:39:38 I'm afraid I have to speak on that one, Jade. To me there are 2 kinds of traders: a Trader (note the capitalization) and a Furbearing Market Leech. A Trader is a person that specializes in getting cargo from Point A to Point B safely. They have the skills needed to reduce the risk of intercept as much as humanly possible in this game. They have the brains to reduce the risk even further than skills do. Through the use of these assets, they will never get intercepted enough to register more than a blip on their bottom line. That while they may lose a cargo, or even a ship and cargo, to a pirate, it doesn't occur often enough to prevent them from making isk. A Furbearing Market Leech is a person that just invests in the skills necessary to pilot an industrial and the ship itself. They do not utilize the skills availible to to increase their chances of surviving an encounter. They do not use their brains, both in preparation of making a delivery and while actually making the run, to reduce being intercepted further. They expect to be able to buy a cargo and deliver it, with the only obstacle being the boredom of the trip itself. And when they are intercepted, they rail against how unfair it was. Or how it took no skill to blockade a stargate. And that's the funny thing. They're entirely correct... Against them it does not take any skill to blockade a stargate. They do nothing to make it any challenge whatsoever. And you can tell what kind of trader you're dealing with simply by their posts and their tones. You are a real Trader, Jade. Others yelling obscenities and slanders at the pirates most often are not. I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Nibarlan	Posted - 2003.07.25 00:44:00 - [132] lol I have a few from my few pirate exploits that I wish had saved, oh well ----------------------------------------------- In space no one can hear you scream...unless you scream on the radio, then everybody on that channel can hear you...but only if your in a ship, because they wouldn't hear you if you were in space and screamed into the radio -----------------------------------------------
Jaabaa Prime	Posted - 2003.07.25 00:52:00 - [133] After a meeting with Setec and his noobs We were out NPC pirate hunting and testing out new setups, and one of our corp members decided to call it a night and left the group to go and dock. On her way back, she met Setec's crew setting up at a gate, we all jumped in to help, and Setec was curious what was so valuable that it required that kind of fire power to escort it Final score: DDC: 2 Blackbirds - Space Invaders: 1 Rupture This is a bit of the after battle chat: Dated: 2003.06.27 Jaabaa Prime > Oh well, it got the adrenilin going :) Setec > hehe mine too Jaabaa Prime > that, I believe Setec > i'm lucky i got an exact carbon copy of my bb waiting for me, every module the same :) Jaabaa Prime > we produce ruptures too :p Jaabaa Prime > not a great loss, but a great fight :) Setec > yeah was fun Setec > hehe Setec > of course now we can't be holding up indys there like we wanted to =P Jaabaa Prime > LOL Jaabaa Prime > Why didn't you use your cargo scanner ? Setec > i was the one with the scanner and like i said i was afk at the start, i didn't warp in until you guys had 4 or 5 cruisers there Setec > so it was just a big firefight at that point Jaabaa Prime > LOL Jaabaa Prime > ROFLMAO Jaabaa Prime > You guys need more practice ;) Setec > yeah like i said most of my corp are just getting into combat Setec > lots of new recruits etc Setec > plus you caught us at a bad time, before we were set up, with the leader afk =P Jaabaa Prime > You shouldn't put them at a gate in a 0.0 system then :) Setec > hehe i din't put them there, they warped to it before me Setec > normally it goes pretty well, that's the first time we've run into a corp fleet on its way back through Jaabaa Prime > and you were the boss ? Setec > yeah Jaabaa Prime > We had just finished a bit of NPC pirate hunting, so we weren't exactly "toothless" ;) Setec > heh yeah Setec > npc-hunting cruisers always have an advantage over pirates, at least pirates who try to disable people and rob them Setec > cowboys who just shoot everything on sight (cough m0o cough) have an advantage in battle but can't make much money Jaabaa Prime > We were ALL hunting, wrong move amigo :) Jaabaa Prime > And we were all in that system Jaabaa Prime > simple gang warp :) Setec > yeah Jaabaa Prime > You have to teach them better Setec > when we're set up i check corps of people as they warp in and if there are lots from one corp we go elsewhere... but like i said i was afk Setec > hehe takes a while for everyone to learn, they're sharp guys but need experience Jaabaa Prime > Check local for loads of people with BIG positive sec ratings that are in the same corp :) Setec > yep Setec > hehe that was what i was writing on the corp forum already Jaabaa Prime > lol -- Intergalactic Teeth Pullers "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein
Serge	Posted - 2003.07.25 08:18:00 - [134] Funny stories! yeah, hehe though I¦m not that big fan of PvP in this game as it¦s now, the pirate thing adds certain thrill to game :) ,, btw, pirates are scum! hehe Corpmate of mine had an encounter with Setec last eve ... got warp/target/speedscrambled in his maller. Well, me mate decided to not pay the 3Mio ... Setec than started firing my mate but couldnt take down his shields! Situation got tense when some NPC pirates warped in but luckily other PCs warped in, too --> Setec withdrawed, my mate was released and could get out ;) wondering how this had ended when Setec ran out of ammo at least? *********************************************** ... "we suddenly have a good 2 dozen Chicken Littles running about proclaiming tha

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