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Egravant Alduin Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.03.06 12:36:00 - [1] - Quote Hi guys, After a lot of mining so i can get my first battleship, after using typhoon fleet issue and was disappointed I bought maelstrom as all of you people suggested.I read that this ship is built for active tanking.I'm doing terrible in making it good since my capacitor runs out very very fast .Should I buy large capacitor control circuit or something else?The thing is to use or not to use microwarpdrives for pve and maybe later for pvp.Any help or advice should be appreciated so I can enjoy this ship.
sabre906 Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice 837	Posted - 2013.03.06 12:40:00 - [2] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: Hi guys, After a lot of mining so i can get my first battleship, after using typhoon fleet issue and was disappointed I bought maelstrom as all of you people suggested.I read that this ship is built for active tanking.I'm doing terrible in making it good since my capacitor runs out very very fast .Should I buy large capacitor control circuit or something else?The thing is to use or not to use microwarpdrives for pve and maybe later for pvp.Any help or advice should be appreciated so I can enjoy this ship. Fit cap booster. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454
Egravant Alduin Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.03.06 12:42:00 - [3] - Quote Cap boosters are the ones that use ammo correct?the thing is that they are too expensive for me right now and might not make profits from missions.
Debora Tsung The Investment Bankers Guild 67	Posted - 2013.03.06 12:48:00 - [4] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: Cap boosters are the ones that use ammo correct?the thing is that they are too expensive for me right now and might not make profits from missions. hm... unless You're running L4 missions I'd suggest You use a battlecruiser (for L3 missions) or even a normal cruiser for everything below L3. If You actually run L4 missions, the standard cap charges are cheap enough, they won't kill Your wallet. Other than that, watch Your mission triggers, You'll need far less tank if You don't aggro the whole pocket at once (once You use the Golem it won't matter tho). There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper.
Kosetzu Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 59	Posted - 2013.03.06 12:48:00 - [5] - Quote You should only pulse your shield booster, and use an X-L one. If your cap skills and shield compensation isn't very high train them up for more cap recharge/less cap per cycle. I used to run with an AB on my Maelstrom because battleships are so slow, but if you want to get a MWD you will get a cap penalty unless you buy the best deadspace versions which cost a bit. I ran with 3 CCC's on my Mael, but that was only because I was lazy and permaran a Republic Fleet Afterburner (less cap use & more speed than T2). I never ran with a cap booster as I cba to refill my stocks, and I'd rather fit an AB. You will definately earn back the cap boosters you spend isk on, and there will be some as loot in some wrecks as well. I assume you are running level 4 missions in it? Running 1-3 in battleships is rather subpar and would be better accomplished in smaller ships.
Dato Koppla Rage of Inferno Malefic Motives 128	Posted - 2013.03.06 12:55:00 - [6] - Quote Dont forget cap booster allows you to fit more gank which allows you to kill stuff faster which means you'll need to tank less for a shorter time :)
Egravant Alduin Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.03.06 13:27:00 - [7] - Quote Yes I 'll start runing lelvel 4 missions since i got bored flying my cane in level 3 missions(no competition and they didn;t damage me more than 1/3 of shields.
Jacob Holland Weyland-Vulcan Industries 128	Posted - 2013.03.06 13:33:00 - [8] - Quote Last time I set-up a new mission station (setting up close to the Alliance I was in at the time's hub) I set up a buy order in the appropriate station while I was assembling ships, ammo and so forth. The order was for (IIRC) four thousand Cap Booster 800s and I certainly wasn't offering a brilliant price - it was a while ago so I can't say for certain but I think I was bidding around 2k/unit, eight million ISK for the complete order. Eight million shouldn't break the bank if you're flying a Mael', and even on the worst missions (L4s at least), with fairly poor negotiation skills shouldn't take more than a day or so to cover - and you won't get through 4k charges in a day. The order was approximately 95% filled by the time I launched my first mission for the agent a couple of days later and I've probably still got over 3k in that station. Considering how many rounds of EMP, Phased Plasma and Fusion L I got through during my stay there I would suggest that the boosters were one of my lowest expenses
Getsafe Aisak Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.03.06 13:49:00 - [9] - Quote There's no reason to waste ISK on cap boosters. [Maelstrom, PVE] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Shield Boost Amplifier II Pith A-Type X-Large Shield Booster Explosive Deflection Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Marc Callan NullOcular Order THORN Alliance 129	Posted - 2013.03.06 14:04:00 - [10] - Quote Getsafe Aisak wrote: There's no reason to waste ISK on cap boosters. [Maelstrom, PVE] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Shield Boost Amplifier II Pith A-Type X-Large Shield Booster Explosive Deflection Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I That's probably closer to an "endgame" fit - but stepping down the shield booster, the AB, and the gyros to T2 (or maybe a M4 shield booster in case of fitting issues) should hopefully give the OP something to start with, upgrading the booster and gyros to faction as he/she earns the ISK to invest. (The Dread Guristas booster is a nice first faction mod; performance equal to the Caldari Navy XLSB, at a relative sixty-percent discount.) The Maelstrom's not designed to go fast, really; the prop mod (AB or MWD) should be thought of as something to fit on a situational basis, only when you know you've got long subwarp travel stretches ahead of you, much like the hardeners should be swapped depending on the mission. If you're willing to sacrifice speed, you can easily field a setup that will tank over a thousand DPS in bursts, which should be long enough for you to clear some DPS off the field and let your cap recover. "Nevertheless a prince ought to inspire fear in such a way that, if he does not win love, he avoids hatred..." - Niccolo Machiavelli-á
Aeril Malkyre Knights of the Ouroboros 208	Posted - 2013.03.06 14:53:00 - [11] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: Hi guys, After a lot of mining so i can get my first battleship, after using typhoon fleet issue and was disappointed I bought maelstrom as all of you people suggested.I read that this ship is built for active tanking.I'm doing terrible in making it good since my capacitor runs out very very fast .Should I buy large capacitor control circuit or something else?The thing is to use or not to use microwarpdrives for pve and maybe later for pvp.Any help or advice should be appreciated so I can enjoy this ship. Only pulse the booster on/off when you 're getting hurt. Running it flat out will drain your cap in no time, as you've found. You can use CCC rigs as a crutch if your other skills are low. Lose the MWD. It's blooming your sig radius, making you easier to hit, and it's taking a chunk out of your capacitor in order to fit. Which is also why you're running dry so fast. Fit an AB if you know there's gates to slow boat to, but drop the MWD and embrace the fact that you're flying a bathtub.
Orlacc 289	Posted - 2013.03.06 15:21:00 - [12] - Quote Mael needs cap booster to function well.
Debora Tsung The Investment Bankers Guild 67	Posted - 2013.03.06 15:44:00 - [13] - Quote Getsafe Aisak wrote: There's no reason to waste ISK on cap boosters. [Maelstrom, PVE] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Shield Boost Amplifier II Pith A-Type X-Large Shield Booster Explosive Deflection Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Buy A Golem and use T2 equipment. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper.
Getsafe Aisak Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.03.06 16:00:00 - [14] - Quote Debora Tsung wrote: Getsafe Aisak wrote: There's no reason to waste ISK on cap boosters. [Maelstrom, PVE] Buy A Golem and use T2 equipment. I don't consider the amount of pimpage that excessive or misplaced, if that's what you are referring to. T2 should work OK, of course. Edit: Orlacc wrote: Mael needs cap booster to function well. This is not true.
Egravant Alduin Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.03.06 16:41:00 - [15] - Quote Ok guys according to your answers and some searching i did this is the fit. Maelstorm Pve 3 x gyrostabillizer II 2 x tracking enhancer Shield boost amlifier 1 (not skillet yet for tech 2) Adaptive invulnerability field II x 2 X-large C5-L emergency shield overload i 100mn afterburner Cap booster (probably) 1200mm scout artillery x 8(I read high volley can kill instantly than higher dps) Large semiconductor Memory cell I
Orlacc 290	Posted - 2013.03.06 17:02:00 - [16] - Quote Don't forget drones.....lights for those frigs that get through. I used a fit similar to the above with great success. Eventually though I went to T2 ACs.
Degnar Oskold Justified Chaos 11	Posted - 2013.03.06 18:33:00 - [17] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: Ok guys according to your answers and some searching i did this is the fit. Maelstorm Pve 3 x gyrostabillizer II 2 x tracking enhancer Shield boost amlifier 1 (not skillet yet for tech 2) Adaptive invulnerability field II x 2 X-large C5-L emergency shield overload i 100mn afterburner Cap booster (probably) 1200mm scout artillery x 8(I read high volley can kill instantly than higher dps) Large semiconductor Memory cell I x 3 Not bad, but the Adaptive Invulnerability fields use more cap than the resist specific shield hardeners. I fit hardeners specific to the mission on my missioning alt's Maelstrom
Kusum Fawn State War Academy Caldari State 298	Posted - 2013.03.06 18:56:00 - [18] - Quote I will never understand why anyone uses artillery in missions. Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
Egravant Alduin Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.03.06 19:18:00 - [19] - Quote Degnar Oskold wrote: Egravant Alduin wrote: Ok guys according to your answers and some searching i did this is the fit. Maelstorm Pve 3 x gyrostabillizer II 2 x tracking enhancer Shield boost amlifier 1 (not skillet yet for tech 2) Adaptive invulnerability field II x 2 X-large C5-L emergency shield overload i 100mn afterburner Cap booster (probably) 1200mm scout artillery x 8(I read high volley can kill instantly than higher dps) Large semiconductor Memory cell I x 3 Not bad, but the Adaptive Invulnerability fields use more cap than the resist specific shield hardeners. I fit hardeners specific to the mission on my missioning alt's Maelstrom you mean resist like kinetic / em etc?
Egravant Alduin Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.03.06 19:19:00 - [20] - Quote Kusum Fawn wrote: I will never understand why anyone uses artillery in missions. Artillery are fun in missions .They are like bam bam down.bam bam down ship.
Skorpynekomimi 467	Posted - 2013.03.06 19:38:00 - [21] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: Degnar Oskold wrote: Egravant Alduin wrote: Ok guys according to your answers and some searching i did this is the fit. Maelstorm Pve 3 x gyrostabillizer II 2 x tracking enhancer Shield boost amlifier 1 (not skillet yet for tech 2) Adaptive invulnerability field II x 2 X-large C5-L emergency shield overload i 100mn afterburner Cap booster (probably) 1200mm scout artillery x 8(I read high volley can kill instantly than higher dps) Large semiconductor Memory cell I x 3 Not bad, but the Adaptive Invulnerability fields use more cap than the resist specific shield hardeners. I fit hardeners specific to the mission on my missioning alt's Maelstrom you mean resist like kinetic / em etc? Yes. My setup: [Maelstrom, PvE Mael] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Power Diagnostic System II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II X-Large Shield Booster II Explosive Deflection Field II (Mission specific) Kinetic Deflection Field II (Mission specific) EM Ward Field II (Mission specific) Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L (Change ammo for different rats) 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier I Large Core Defense Field Extender I Large Projectile Burst Aerator I Works well enough. A pig on cap sometimes in heavier missions, but heavy on tank and gank, and VERY cost-effective. No deadspace or faction mods here. If you're struggling with lv4s, bring a friend.
Orlacc 290	Posted - 2013.03.06 19:43:00 - [22] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: Degnar Oskold wrote: Egravant Alduin wrote: Ok guys according to your answers and some searching i did this is the fit. Maelstorm Pve 3 x gyrostabillizer II 2 x tracking enhancer Shield boost amlifier 1 (not skillet yet for tech 2) Adaptive invulnerability field II x 2 X-large C5-L emergency shield overload i 100mn afterburner Cap booster (probably) 1200mm scout artillery x 8(I read high volley can kill instantly than higher dps) Large semiconductor Memory cell I x 3 Not bad, but the Adaptive Invulnerability fields use more cap than the resist specific shield hardeners. I fit hardeners specific to the mission on my missioning alt's Maelstrom you mean resist like kinetic / em etc? Yes.
Slymah 33 RD Rebel Alliance of New Eden 38	Posted - 2013.03.07 04:53:00 - [23] - Quote Another vote here for equipping a cap booster. You probably wont need it using arties however it is nice to have while you learn how to run the lvl 4's. Keep in mind many missions will drop you right in the middle of or close to the rats. This can escalate from bad to downright scary while being scrammed/webbed. This is where the cap booster shines.. saving you from your early mistakes. *I still throw on the cap booster when I do the faction epic questline. It's saved my ship many times. This leads to drones. Do be able to fly t2 lights so you can kill the scramblers and gtfo asap. Once you learn the missions (or read the mission-reports before starting them), and get a bit more skillpoints into it you can refit your Mael in a way that better suits your needs.
Orlacc 292	Posted - 2013.03.07 05:42:00 - [24] - Quote Slymah wrote: Another vote here for equipping a cap booster. You probably wont need it using arties however it is nice to have while you learn how to run the lvl 4's. Keep in mind many missions will drop you right in the middle of or close to the rats. This can escalate from bad to downright scary while being scrammed/webbed. This is where the cap booster shines.. saving you from your early mistakes. *I still throw on the cap booster when I do the faction epic questline. It's saved my ship many times. This leads to drones. Do be able to fly t2 lights so you can kill the scramblers and gtfo asap. Once you learn the missions (or read the mission-reports before starting them), and get a bit more skillpoints into it you can refit your Mael in a way that better suits your needs. This. And oh yes now there is the MJD for GTFO if you drop right into the middle of the rats.
Debora Tsung The Investment Bankers Guild 67	Posted - 2013.03.07 09:39:00 - [25] - Quote Getsafe Aisak wrote: I don't consider the amount of pimpage that excessive or misplaced, if that's what you are referring to. T2 should work OK, of course. I was actually referring to the price of all those faction and deadspace things in Your fit.^^ I haven't checked market prices for a long time now, but as far as I remember a Golem with T2 equipment should cost about the same and is better. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper.
Vervz SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 8	Posted - 2013.03.07 15:05:00 - [26] - Quote For the love of God use 1400mm Artys The 'scout' variant is the highest DPS/Alpha, build your fitting around the guns, you will be able to 1 shot cruisers at 90km. Cap rechargers in the mids and Large CCC rigs will help, get an Pith Large shield booster and try to get it cap stable. Dont worry about prop mods for now, get it cap stable and keep warping in at 100km. As soon as they are in range turn about and start moving in the opposite direction to keep them in your optimal for longer. I can hammer Forsaken hubs with minimal SP.
Skorpynekomimi 468	Posted - 2013.03.07 20:16:00 - [27] - Quote 1400s lead to wasted volleys and being incredibly tight on powergrid. And fitting meta4 arty means you miss the damage bonuses for T2 stuff from the specialisation skills.
Goldiiee Superior Ratio High Sec Dropouts 251	Posted - 2013.03.07 20:27:00 - [28] - Quote 1400GÇÖs are like a surgical knife, 800GÇÖs are like a sledgehammer, if you pick your ranges with 1400GÇÖs and kill everything in order frigs, cruisers, battleships. DonGÇÖt shoot at anything if its angular velocity is approaching your tracking. And take the SledgehammersGÇÖ ammo back to the bank. Reason and logic never wins over Stubborn and Convinced-á (But-áI still try..)
Kosetzu Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 59	Posted - 2013.03.07 21:06:00 - [29] - Quote Getsafe Aisak wrote: There's no reason to waste ISK on cap boosters. [Maelstrom, PVE] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Shield Boost Amplifier II Pith A-Type X-Large Shield Booster Explosive Deflection Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Fusion L Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Almost like what I used to run with, except I had three hardeners and no Tracking Computer. I used meta guns as my gunnery skills wasn't there at the time, but T2 should fit fine. The Republic Fleet Afterburner costs around 70m on market/contract and is definately worth it over a named/T2. While this fit is somewhat pimped you can downgrade the booster to a T2 with proper fitting skills. Heck, you can downgrade about everything on it and it will still run well, but this is somewhat what I would aim the skilling for. Put the T2 guns last in your skillqueue, as getting T2 tank is more important in my opinion.
Brazys Trumparankis PATHOGEN. 0	Posted - 2013.03.16 10:40:00 - [30] - Quote So, here i found threat more usefull then any other. almost same situation as OP has. running with cane and realy boored, got all neede skills for maelstrom and all gunnery skills 4-5 lvl. fit below is 1400mm arti, i luv arti, insta pop 3-4 targets make my manly pride even bigger. always can swap for 800mm if needed. question: will my tank and gank is enough in lvl4 missions? next modules to buy will be RF gyros, C-Type booster and caldari invul. my mael pride

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