I have both xp and win7 for eve
win7 is fine and you should consider it as a good upgrade

The post in the link only talks about DX11 being only used by 50%, not XP...
It must be more to do with people Graphics Cards.

i don't.

The post in the link only talks about DX11 being only used by 50%, not XP...

It must be more to do with people Graphics Cards.

I still use XP both at home & work.

I do have a Windows 7 PC which according to the 'Windows experience' thing it is supposedly 7.4

But UAC drove me mad after 10 minutes, plus none of the programmes I use at work run in any compatibility mode or otherwise.

Even Microsoft Application Compatibility Toolkit 5.6 was a pile of crock at trying to sort out the compatibility problems.

So it booted in 30 seconds due to a SSD.

But Playing with 2 EVE accounts was no different apart from the infuriating UAC

So currently the Windows 7 PC is stuffed in the back room awaiting disposal!

And I am back on my AMD64 4600+ with XP

Please only reply to this thread if you use Windows XP as your primary operating system and do not have a pc with Windows Vista or later.

Edit: Considering CCP would have the best access to information like this, it would be nice if they released some statistics about the operating systems the player base uses. It would help 3rd party developers figure out which technologies they can use based on the operating systems the technology supports, and how many EvE players are using operating systems that aren't supported by their preferred technology.

Good lord, next thing the lot of you will be telling us is that you still run on a modem and you use Office 2000.

I run XP as my primary OS because of gaming. I get a better frame rate on it than any other version of windows. Dual box eve on the same system running win 7 runs at half the frame rate.

i don't really give a **** about dx11 and all that crap as I turn details way down and this game should be renamed to 'range rings and purple/red boxes Online'

Edit: you can have my windows XP when you pry if from my cold, dead hands.

I run XP on my fairly old gaming machine. Give me a reason that I'll receive some massive benefit for -ú50 by upgrading my OS and I will consider it.

XP is an extremely solid OS with minimal overhead with a minimal to non existent price.

Almost everyone uses a modem still BTW.

Good lord, next thing the lot of you will be telling us is that you still run on a modem and you use Office 2000.

My 13 yo daughter uses XP.

When she's misbehaved I make her mine ice for a few hours.

I have a remarkably well behaved daughter

Isn't torturing kids against the Geneva convention?

Good lord, next thing the lot of you will be telling us is that you still run on a modem and you use Office 2000.

And disabling UAC is hard...

This is the worst advise you can give people. If UAC is bothering you you'd be better off doing something usefull, like a Virus Scan, or Check the settings to see why it's going apeshit on you.

Office 2000?? pfft.. VIM with latex plugin And a modem should be more than enough for EVE.

Got a question. Does windows 7 have the ability to be a tech geek like xp does? I love the control and complexity of XP. Saw vista and hated it. worried 7 and 8 are even more simplistic

Got a question. Does windows 7 have the ability to be a tech geek like xp does? I love the control and complexity of XP. Saw vista and hated it. worried 7 and 8 are even more simplistic

As long as the tears from 7/8 users continue to flow, I will continue to use XP...

Windows 7/XP user here. Could update to 7 on all comps, but no reason to do it, so I don't.

xp baby all the way

The fact that you're preventing everyone from having tessellation is a pretty big reason, as is not having access to updates for your OS and various other pieces of software like browsers, etc.


Why doesn't that surprise me? Just go remove yourself from the gene pool already. Half the first page of GD is locked threads by you. You contribute nothing to the forum, except maybe annoyance.

Or you could disable the UAC and not do stupid things.

Disabling the UAC counts as stupid things.

Windows 7/XP user here. Could update to 7 on all comps, but no reason to do it, so I don't.

XP kid here, do I get lots of cookies? I'm hungry.

thanks. now just get me the cash to buy it and also preferably a new computer too

If you enjoyed XP, you'll appreciate Win7.

XP (l)user here ... but I only have a 6-years old computer with a GeForce 210 graphics card and 2 Gigs of RAM (best I can do on my old beast), and I can still run 4 eVe accounts on the same computer ...

No enough cash to buy a brand-new PC, but if/when I do, I'll miss my XP ... such horror stories about Vista/7/8 ... eeeek !

The question is, is there a reason to not do it and why shouldn't you?

About XP: ME?????? -NOES, NEVA, WHY DON'T YOU GET BACK TO AMIGA500 OR DX25 SINCE YOU'RE THERE??

Pick your cell phone and throw it away, ask for telegraphs or why not start calling your friends with smoke signs too?

The fact that you're preventing everyone from having tessellation is a pretty big reason, as is not having access to updates for your OS and various other pieces of software like browsers, etc.

I'm not preventing anything. CCP is preventing themselves. You can think of me as an AFK cloaker in the CCP collected OS stats(local). As for OS updates, they're not necessary in any way and every software that I'm using on that comp still supports XP. As I said until things start to actually require something other than XP there is no need for an OS upgrade.

This is pretty much the case for me too, until im forced to upgrade because the program i want to use requires it ill carry on using the OS which works for everything i want to do with it. Im not spending my time or money just to satisfy some internet jockeys need to nerdgasm over microsofts latest offering.

What are you guys going to do when your OS is no longer supported, even if it still runs your software? Though there's no hurry to think about it yet, XP extended support runs to April 8, 2014.

then hopefully by then ill have extra cash to get a better computer that runs windows 7 efficiently

My *really* old laptop that lives in the freezer that runs SETI@home stuff uses it...

I'm stuck using WinXP for one simple reason - I can't afford to replace my -ú500 (rack-mounted) sound card that only works on WinXP, unless I don't want any sound, (and dual booting established XP and new Win 7 is a PITA).

does it?

been years and years on multiple machines here with no issues here, without the savior that is UAC *gasp*

People still use WinXP for their home PCs?????? WTF???? Businesses I can understand because of some outdated Finance Package, but home users typically don't need to use outdated software that "requires" older OSs

That being said I'm a Win7 user I tried the Win8 BETA but it was a Pain in the arse to use with a mouse, it really was designed to use with a multi-point touch screen, and I refuse to get multiple touch screens for my system, because they would be a nightmare to constantly clean the fingerprints off. However depending on how the Leap Motion goes, I might consider upgrading to Win8 then, because then I will be able to do everything that a touch screen can do without leaving finger prints.

I'm on Windows 8, and I'm not having any issues with it.

Do you only have 1 Monitor?
I use 4(in a 2x2 grid), and the bottom right one is my Primary Monitor, the Win8 Taskbar is opened by placing the mouse in the top left of the primary screen. On a single monitor this is easy, move mouse to the left and up as far as it goes, on my setup, you needed to be pretty specific on where the mouse landed, it was a nightmare.

Do you only have 1 Monitor?
I use 4(in a 2x2 grid), and the bottom right one is my Primary Monitor, the Win8 Taskbar is opened by placing the mouse in the top left of the primary screen. On a single monitor this is easy, move mouse to the left and up as far as it goes, on my setup, you needed to be pretty specific on where the mouse landed, it was a nightmare.

Windows 7 is a fantastic OS

I wouldn't bother supporting Microsoft's failures by switching to Windows 8. Just wait till Windows 9, you will be much better off. Every other OS Microsoft releases lately is pretty much a beta, wait till the stable version (Windows 9) comes out. Till then I'd just use 7, it's been tried and tested, and works well.

Win XP is not.....bad, but it's a horribly outdated Dinosaur that can't be fixed. We should just let it rest for it's (long) service.


Switch to W8,or 7 if you afraid of Metro.(Critics of Metro are people who can't handle change. You don't need an effin Touch Screen for it.)

I do have a computer from the Stone Age ... just checked the specs, Win7 won't run on my machine LOL

So, an OS update will have to wait for a computer update for me ... and seeing the 700+ euros needed for a decent (not even good, mind you) gaming computer, that will be some months, maybe a year ...

"horribly outdated". From something so recent. Sad that people don't think much of this, nothing is considered durable and long-lasting any more.

Windows 8 on my main machine

Windows 7 on the other gaming computer

Windows sever 2011 on the media

windows XP on 1 laptop

Windows vista on the other

and i found my copy of windows XP home and windows 98 ...i just need to build them a home

Why does anyone care about XP?

Game companies have no business caring.

If a new tech appears that doesn't work on XP but pushes the game forwards 10 years in innovation, it'll be unsupported faster than you can say "XP was first distributed on floppy disks. What's a floppy disk?"

Please only reply to this thread if you use Windows XP as your primary operating system and do not have a pc with Windows Vista or later.

Edit: Considering CCP would have the best access to information like this, it would be nice if they released some statistics about the operating systems the player base uses. It would help 3rd party developers figure out which technologies they can use based on the operating systems the technology supports, and how many EvE players are using operating systems that aren't supported by their preferred technology.

Why does anyone care about XP?

Game companies have no business caring.

If a new tech appears that doesn't work on XP but pushes the game forwards 10 years in innovation, it'll be unsupported faster than you can say "XP was first distributed on floppy disks. What's a floppy disk?"

XP here only for games. Main system is Linux. I'll never upgrade to Vista or whatever. If support for XP ends, my only choice will be Linux with ****** graphic settings in EVE

Read a lot about framerates in the high 60's or even above 200 in this thread ...

You know what's funny ?

The human eye cannot see more than 24 frames per second ... everything above that is basically wasted, computing power used for no actual difference, because your brain simpy cannot process so much images in a single second ...

That's why my "old' GeForce 210 on my old computer with it's framerate of (on average) 25 is largely good enough

Read a lot about framerates in the high 60's or even above 200 in this thread ...

You know what's funny ?

The human eye cannot see more than 24 frames per second ... everything above that is basically wasted, computing power used for no actual difference, because your brain simpy cannot process so much images in a single second ...

That's why my "old' GeForce 210 on my old computer with it's framerate of (on average) 25 is largely good enough

XP SP3 on my main machine.

Unfortunately my laptop is incapable of running XP and therefore is an unstable pile of crap on 7.

Ouch, someone needs to check their facts. Myth based on the fact that standard TV frame rate doesn't seem to stutter. But this is because of motion blur. Try capping the frame rate in CS 1.6 to 25 FPS. You will have a bad time playing I can tell you. Even at 50 FPS you can still see the stutter. (At least I can)

only morons still use XP. W7 is the best edition of windows pretty much ever.

I still use XP both at home & work.

I do have a Windows 7 PC which according to the 'Windows experience' thing it is supposedly 7.4

But UAC drove me mad after 10 minutes, plus none of the programmes I use at work run in any compatibility mode or otherwise.

Even Microsoft Application Compatibility Toolkit 5.6 was a pile of crock at trying to sort out the compatibility problems.

So it booted in 30 seconds due to a SSD.

But Playing with 2 EVE accounts was no different apart from the infuriating UAC

So currently the Windows 7 PC is stuffed in the back room awaiting disposal!

And I am back on my AMD64 4600+ with XP

Read a lot about framerates in the high 60's or even above 200 in this thread ...

You know what's funny ?

The human eye cannot see more than 24 frames per second ... everything above that is basically wasted, computing power used for no actual difference, because your brain simpy cannot process so much images in a single second ...

That's why my "old' GeForce 210 on my old computer with it's framerate of (on average) 25 is largely good enough

Ahem... bullshit

http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frames_can_humans_see.htm

Given a human eye has several cones and this are not synchronized the real eye FPS as a whole its very easily above 100 fps.

Personally I can very easily distinguish between 60fps and 120 fps.

Also Plasma TVs in a sense run at 600fps, and given their larger size that means they do require a larger fps.

on one more note, I want to see what your pc running at max graphics at 1080p in jita or alike, and I bet it runs very "smooth" in the CQ... (not like many people run that crap anyway tho)

XP here only for games. Main system is Linux. I'll never upgrade to Vista or whatever. If support for XP ends, my only choice will be Linux with ****** graphic settings in EVE

Well there's your problem. Someone probably replied to this already, but I think people simply sticks to XP because they have no clue whatsoever how insanely much better Windows 7 and 8 are.

When Windows 7 was in pre-release, it ran perfectly well on one of our work Dell Optiplex 755s:

Athlon 64 3800 (2.4GHz, dual core)
1Gb RAM
80Gb 7200 SATA HDD
Integrated Graphics

I was able to play CS: Source on it with no framerate issues (though the graphics were set to medium).

Then it comes down to ill have Windows 7 and still cant play newer games due to low end hardware

The 755 would have run most things in high if I had put a dedicated video card in it. Though I've noticed on my home system that Eve uses the hard drive more than anything else.

I'm not saying that it is a bad OS at all, except for the many security holes in it....

I'm saying that its an outdated OS that is on its way out the door. By using it with any current technology you are bottle-necking yourself in both the hardware and software departments. There will be a time when your game and program choices will become extremely limited as the world moves on with out you.




Guess I should be glad I'm not almost everybody, I would shoot myself if I ever went back to dial up what with all the pages I usually have up at any given time, netflix streaming, downloads, and any online gaming that may be going on. Hell even my phone can download faster than 56k. I couldn't imagine what life would be like trying to go to Jita or joining a fleet op.

Or are running elderly machines which handle XP just fine, but would struggle with 7 or 8.*

Don't generalize - You'll generally be wrong.

XP. It works.

The Model T Ford. It works.