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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.08.16 22:45:00 -
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ous ;p
yeah i was wondering if instead of the boring ugly and stupid looking ship fires we currently have maybe the old beta (i think beta ;p theyre in all the old snazzy movies) could be brought back.... im GUESSING (im not uber come scripting and stuff heavy like a lot of peeps here) that it was because it required to much system resources and they took it off to cut down on that? well seeing as pretty much everyone has better then mininmum specs maybe they could be brought back..... or even an option to turn them on (in case there are some 'barely meeting minimum spec' ppl out there?
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.08.16 22:45:00 -
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ous ;p
yeah i was wondering if instead of the boring ugly and stupid looking ship fires we currently have maybe the old beta (i think beta ;p theyre in all the old snazzy movies) could be brought back.... im GUESSING (im not uber come scripting and stuff heavy like a lot of peeps here) that it was because it required to much system resources and they took it off to cut down on that? well seeing as pretty much everyone has better then mininmum specs maybe they could be brought back..... or even an option to turn them on (in case there are some 'barely meeting minimum spec' ppl out there?
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Slik
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Posted - 2005.08.17 00:09:00 -
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I take it your ship get's lit-up a lot? 
Personally I don't mind either way. As long as there is no increased gfx load. But really, this so minor, in comparison with the other good things that are coming in Eve.
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Slik
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Posted - 2005.08.17 00:09:00 -
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I take it your ship get's lit-up a lot?
Personally I don't mind either way. As long as there is no increased gfx load. But really, this so minor, in comparison with the other good things that are coming in Eve.
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Masu'di
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Posted - 2005.08.17 01:38:00 -
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even so, all though the old ones were nice, i still like to fly around with most my hull gone, it somehow seems more fitting for my Minmatar ships, and looks quite cool too.
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Masu'di
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Posted - 2005.08.17 01:38:00 -
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even so, all though the old ones were nice, i still like to fly around with most my hull gone, it somehow seems more fitting for my Minmatar ships, and looks quite cool too.
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.08.17 01:53:00 -
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ships still chetch on fire m8's :) ive seen my ships on fire alot, mostlty on test server, and on her when npcs seem to get a hold of me :P
Caldari will once again rise above the Gallente and take back Caldari Prime!
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.08.17 01:53:00 -
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ships still chetch on fire m8's :) ive seen my ships on fire alot, mostlty on test server, and on her when npcs seem to get a hold of me :P
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Karl Staf
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Posted - 2005.08.17 01:56:00 -
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my ship started to burn a week or so ago :)
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Karl Staf
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Posted - 2005.08.17 01:56:00 -
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my ship started to burn a week or so ago :)
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.08.17 02:06:00 -
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Edited by: Dao 2 on 17/08/2005 02:25:56
Edited by: Dao 2 on 17/08/2005 02:11:52
Edited by: Dao 2 on 17/08/2005 02:09:53
i no they do... but it looks stupid.... ill go look for the link for u alls
here! ;p its a boring vid though...
2nd edit: much cooler one but dont no if it has fires ;p
3rd edit: small shipfires but its still cool ;p and i think theres the old sytle jump drives
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.08.17 02:06:00 -
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Edited by: Dao 2 on 17/08/2005 02:25:56
Edited by: Dao 2 on 17/08/2005 02:11:52
Edited by: Dao 2 on 17/08/2005 02:09:53
i no they do... but it looks stupid.... ill go look for the link for u alls
here! ;p its a boring vid though...
2nd edit: much cooler one but dont no if it has fires ;p
3rd edit: small shipfires but its still cool ;p and i think theres the old sytle jump drives
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.08.17 02:26:00 -
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 Originally by: Dao 2
Edited by: Dao 2 on 17/08/2005 02:11:52
Edited by: Dao 2 on 17/08/2005 02:09:53
i no they do... but it looks stupid.... ill go look for the link for u alls
here! ;p its a boring vid though...
2nd edit: much cooler one but dont no if it has fires ;p
first movie dont work, but sed 1 did
Caldari will once again rise above the Gallente and take back Caldari Prime!
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.08.17 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: Dao 2
Edited by: Dao 2 on 17/08/2005 02:11:52
Edited by: Dao 2 on 17/08/2005 02:09:53
i no they do... but it looks stupid.... ill go look for the link for u alls
here! ;p its a boring vid though...
2nd edit: much cooler one but dont no if it has fires ;p
first movie dont work, but sed 1 did
Caldari will once again rise above the Gallente and take back Caldari Prime!
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.08.17 03:00:00 -
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Edited by: Dao 2 on 17/08/2005 03:00:37
first one works for me... but doesnt matter this is the one ive been lookin for for a while
the one that shows the old ship fires and explosions in all their glory.
the uber fire/explosion vid!:
fire/splode
and if im not mistaken thats a gallente navy comet :|
used to be able to fly the concord bs in beta too i think.... wish theyd bring back all the uber cool stuff that was in beta...
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.08.17 03:00:00 -
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Edited by: Dao 2 on 17/08/2005 03:00:37
first one works for me... but doesnt matter this is the one ive been lookin for for a while
the one that shows the old ship fires and explosions in all their glory.
the uber fire/explosion vid!:
fire/splode
and if im not mistaken thats a gallente navy comet :|
used to be able to fly the concord bs in beta too i think.... wish theyd bring back all the uber cool stuff that was in beta...
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.08.17 03:06:00 -
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Edited by: Dao 2 on 17/08/2005 03:07:42
well crap none of em work for me now...
well go here:
PhoenixLinkage
and its this one:
2002.05.22 + Phoenix
if the works dont work for u ;p
edit: even goign through that link none of them are workng for me ;p maybe its down :|
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.08.17 03:06:00 -
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Edited by: Dao 2 on 17/08/2005 03:07:42
well crap none of em work for me now...
well go here:
PhoenixLinkage
and its this one:
2002.05.22 + Phoenix
if the works dont work for u ;p
edit: even goign through that link none of them are workng for me ;p maybe its down :|
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.08.17 03:26:00 -
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Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 17/08/2005 03:26:17
AGGGG i wiah they would add tHOES back thoes were cool nothen like the Uber LAME FLAMES we have today
Caldari will once again rise above the Gallente and take back Caldari Prime!
Image done by Denrace |
Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.08.17 03:26:00 -
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Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 17/08/2005 03:26:17
AGGGG i wiah they would add tHOES back thoes were cool nothen like the Uber LAME FLAMES we have today
Caldari will once again rise above the Gallente and take back Caldari Prime!
Image done by Denrace |
Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.08.17 03:28:00 -
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aye thats what i want.... some little ball of crap that doesnt even look like a fire is so bad... the uber fires of back then! plz bring em back! ;p
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.08.17 03:28:00 -
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aye thats what i want.... some little ball of crap that doesnt even look like a fire is so bad... the uber fires of back then! plz bring em back! ;p
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Nybbas
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Posted - 2005.08.17 04:47:00 -
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You know what, now that i think about it, back in beta i remember the first time i logged in, i flew to a belt where my friend was fighting some npcs, and i just remember getting there and seeing some ships fighting in the background and then just seeing this magnificant explosion as he killed one of the pirates... I couldnt get over how good the explosions looked, and the fires too, i cant believe i didnt notice that they changed them, they used to look amazing. CCP was this changed due to lag or what? will we ever get those reaaaaaallly cool looking explosions and effects back? maybe a graphics option? because damn those looked so good... or at least make battleships explode for a bit longer, the new explosions we did get look cool, but like a battleships doesnt really explode that big : /
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Nybbas
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Posted - 2005.08.17 04:47:00 -
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You know what, now that i think about it, back in beta i remember the first time i logged in, i flew to a belt where my friend was fighting some npcs, and i just remember getting there and seeing some ships fighting in the background and then just seeing this magnificant explosion as he killed one of the pirates... I couldnt get over how good the explosions looked, and the fires too, i cant believe i didnt notice that they changed them, they used to look amazing. CCP was this changed due to lag or what? will we ever get those reaaaaaallly cool looking explosions and effects back? maybe a graphics option? because damn those looked so good... or at least make battleships explode for a bit longer, the new explosions we did get look cool, but like a battleships doesnt really explode that big : /
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Bsport
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Posted - 2005.08.17 08:57:00 -
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Edited by: Bsport on 17/08/2005 09:01:01
how things have changed, the new explosion effects are not bad. every now and then i look at the real old vids and see whats changed
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Bsport
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Posted - 2005.08.17 08:57:00 -
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Edited by: Bsport on 17/08/2005 09:01:01
how things have changed, the new explosion effects are not bad. every now and then i look at the real old vids and see whats changed
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Rafein
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Posted - 2005.08.17 09:33:00 -
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I would like to see it, but the only way I think it would justify your ship being on fire is if you get some Structure damage until it gets repaired. So the fire is harming your ship
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Rafein
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Posted - 2005.08.17 09:33:00 -
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I would like to see it, but the only way I think it would justify your ship being on fire is if you get some Structure damage until it gets repaired. So the fire is harming your ship
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.08.17 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Rafein
I would like to see it, but the only way I think it would justify your ship being on fire is if you get some Structure damage until it gets repaired. So the fire is harming your ship
Oh dear. We're discussing things being on fire in the complete vacuum of space, and people want to talk about how to do it more realistically 
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.08.17 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 17/08/2005 12:38:33
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Rafein
I would like to see it, but the only way I think it would justify your ship being on fire is if you get some Structure damage until it gets repaired. So the fire is harming your ship
Oh dear. We're discussing things being on fire in the complete vacuum of space, and people want to talk about how to do it more realistically
hay the SUN is in space and ITS on fire :P matter of fact, its a gient ball of fire. and what abut comets arnt they on fire like atleast somewhat?
Caldari will once again rise above the Gallente and take back Caldari Prime!
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Purask
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Posted - 2005.08.17 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Rafein
I would like to see it, but the only way I think it would justify your ship being on fire is if you get some Structure damage until it gets repaired. So the fire is harming your ship
Oh dear. We're discussing things being on fire in the complete vacuum of space, and people want to talk about how to do it more realistically
there is no problem with fire in space, it can be simply a different fire like a plasma one.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.08.17 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson
hay the SUN is in space and ITS on fire :P
No it ain't ... it glows because of the heat it generates, which is due to thermonuclear reactions. No fire of any description is involved.
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and what abut comets arnt they on fire like atleast somewhat?
Comets are even less on fire than the stars, which aren't on fire at all. The only reason you can see comets, is reflected starlight from their component particles.
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Deros
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Posted - 2005.08.17 13:00:00 -
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the fires on your ship, surely the burning oxygen inside the ship at a hull breach, where the vacuum of space is pulling it outside.....
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.08.17 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Deros
the fires on your ship, surely the burning oxygen inside the ship at a hull breach, where the vacuum of space is pulling it outside.....
D
Technically speaking, even a very small hull breach would result in the air being sucked out at nearly instantaneous speeds. Would it have time to actually combust if the hole was say the size of a 1500mm artillery shell? :) Probably not.
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Draaven
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Posted - 2005.08.17 14:05:00 -
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Man, I forgot all about those trailers. And I can remember seeing pics in the archives of a Dominix with damaged plating--the skin on the ship was actually changed to show burnt/shredded/missing hull segments.
I'm flat broke right now...but I swear, I'd upgrade whatever equipment was necessary to accomodate those effects. And not just on player ships, either--NPC ships should show damage and engine fires as well.
Maybe there should be an option to turn that stuff on and off, but let's face it--the graphics and art of this game is what brought us to EVE. Anything that makes the effects better adds to the experience, provided we don't pay too steep a price in game performance.
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Severe McCald
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Posted - 2005.08.17 14:12:00 -
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Realism is for those who lack imagination. 
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Sid Carrera
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Posted - 2005.08.17 14:14:00 -
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Beta missiles were cool with those trails.
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Quanteeri
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Posted - 2005.08.17 14:16:00 -
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I think your ship should get all beat up, like in Crazy Taxi.
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.08.17 21:10:00 -
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what i mean is that the old beta effects were SO much cooler (seems like a lot of u agree with me too ;p i guess :|) (but i really like the fires ;p). and i THINK (remeber previous statement bout me not bein tech heavy) was because they were to much for system back then, there wouldnt really be any server side lag for the explosions if they were just a set explosion, or even a picked one out of a few (think that might make a little). Or having the old fires either, itll be client side lag only (probably, i think).
And i remeber ppl saying that beta taxed their systems A LOT and there was a lot of client side lag (i bet the ervers were damn stable with so few ppl ;p), But now most ppl have better system then the beta stuff would ever need, so maybe add an option to add them in again (incase theres ppl that still run on old and not-so-powerful computers (i love my new gefroce 6200 \o/ stuck with some crap geforce 4 ti 4400 for 3 years :( ;ppp).
but the thing about the plating changing and stuff like that, that would be damn cool and id love to see that, but seing as how it would have to update for everyone (attacker and the attacked) it MIGHT (remeber not tech heavy ;p) create some lag. though it would be damn cool ;p so would seing pieces of ur ship come off and see wee little ppl get sucked out (OMG TIMMY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO)
yeah ok ill shutup now :|
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Al Capown
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Posted - 2005.08.17 22:14:00 -
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I think itd be better if all the guns started shooting in different places instead of the same spot every single time
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.08.17 23:04:00 -
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yeah thatd be cool too ;p
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.08.19 01:56:00 -
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bump cause i really want the old stuff back :|
or at least an official response about them (i should rethink that though cause the chances for either of them....)
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.08.19 06:45:00 -
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After reading this topic I know why "Daniel Jackson" is so famose person in EVE 
My eyes, I almost teared my eyes out from horror and pain I had to go thru while reading him. 
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Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2005.08.19 09:11:00 -
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At least, we need multiple fire points as we get more damaged. Have you seen the tempest on fire? One orange ball of fluff at the bottom engine, and thats it. Doesn't really give the impression of a 'close call' now does it. Right down to 1% hull, you only get this little ball of fluff before 'bang'. OK the explosions are good now, if still needing a little work. Personally I would like to see bigger ships break into 2-3 bits, and the bits explode. Imagine bringing an Apoc down and watching it break in half before blowing.
I like the sparks on the beta vids too. gives the fire some rage.
Please CCP, get the damage look sorted.
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.08.19 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Daniel Jackson
hay the SUN is in space and ITS on fire :P
No it ain't ... it glows because of the heat it generates, which is due to thermonuclear reactions. No fire of any description is involved.
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and what abut comets arnt they on fire like atleast somewhat?
Comets are even less on fire than the stars, which aren't on fire at all. The only reason you can see comets, is reflected starlight from their component particles.
Shut it Geek!
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Ibobah'k Chisaraj
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Posted - 2005.08.19 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Daniel Jackson
hay the SUN is in space and ITS on fire :P
No it ain't ... it glows because of the heat it generates, which is due to thermonuclear reactions. No fire of any description is involved.
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and what abut comets arnt they on fire like atleast somewhat?
Comets are even less on fire than the stars, which aren't on fire at all. The only reason you can see comets, is reflected starlight from their component particles.
Shut it Geek!
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Didnt you know its heavenly light shining through small holes in the heavenly curtain. Our sun is just a bigger hole in the curtain than the others, thats all.
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2005.08.19 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Deros
the fires on your ship, surely the burning oxygen inside the ship at a hull breach, where the vacuum of space is pulling it outside.....
D
Technically speaking, even a very small hull breach would result in the air being sucked out at nearly instantaneous speeds. Would it have time to actually combust if the hole was say the size of a 1500mm artillery shell? :) Probably not.
Containment fields.
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.08.19 20:32:00 -
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bring it back! ;p
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VeNT
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Posted - 2005.08.19 23:24:00 -
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let us not forget the other things with beta
in the beta, in 1.0 space if you could go over 500m/s in your frig you could keep out of concords range and KILL THEM ALL
in the beta you got cascading errors that would lock your PC up, all the time.
in the beta the devs where the ones doing the ganking.
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.08.20 03:29:00 -
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i didnt say bring the bad aspects of beta ;p i said bring back the uber effects! ;p
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