Suicide ganking can no-longer be done in solo catalysts.

It can in 0.5, I do it all the time. Takes a few days of training gunnery skills, but I can pop a Mackinaw solo provided he doesn't have much of a tank.

it is now a highly sophisticated team game that requires good organization to set up

I lol'd at that


Some ppl just like to act "cruel" in a computer game because they need to make up for what/who they are in real life or something..

While i enjoy pvp i never saw any fun in ganking those that can't defend themselves.. not gate camping indies in lowsec and especially not suicide ganking indies in high sec.

If you guys are so well organized and fly so well together, try doing some lowsec pvp roams.. Its more of a challenge than warping to belt ->approach barge -> press f1+f2 for guns and warp scram.

And I saw bots. All bots.

They were unresponsive when you talked to them, they don't respond when you bump them. They just mine, warp, unload, repeat.

They are not really people, just kill mails waiting to happen.

One of whom never logged on again

High-Sec is dangerous.
No-one is entitled to an intact ship in EVE.

Ganking was cool till it became a Cult Bumping Blah blah Crap :|

However as with everything else the only reason I hate the entire minerbumping thing and James and i have said it a lot before. Is they sugar coat what they do.

Don't do that, your not helping anybody your just extorting isk and killing ships who in reality has no hope of defending themselves. I scoff at people saying tank your ship we all know that is bull, no tanked indy ship will survive a gank if they really want to kill you.

And I am done.

So you thought "I know, I'll report them".

And so began a slow and considered approach to identifying the patterns of systematic behaviour.

...oh, I see, you wanted to keep them in the game instead. I donGÇÖt think I can give you any marks here.

Whilst it seems more likely they just used an alt to carry on as normal your statement makes clear that you failed to achieve your goal. I'll give you a hint - you are not trying to rid Eve of players, it is silly to boast that you are. Again I canGÇÖt award any marks here.

Slightly different message to the normal one, I guess one mark for daring to be different.

In fact, everybody in Eve is entitled to an intact ship, something you could have learned during your seven hours of training. ItGÇÖs such a fundamental mistake that I will have to subtract a mark.

0/10
Overall a poorly constructed effort containing obvious errors and omissions. Points made are not supported with evidence and do not stand up to basic scrutiny. Elements of the piece suggest that it was rushed and as I hinted at before research has not been carried out. An almost conscious effort has been made to contradict elements of the document the author is attempting to show support for.

An unusually disappointing effort, they usually put more into these things.

It's not about the ISK. It's about sending a message. High-sec is dangerous. It is as safe as players make it. It is as dangerous as players make it to be. Concord and other NPCs are just part of the terrain.

Yesterday I created a permanent gank alt to join the New Order. With 7 hours to train up to a destroyer, I shipped to Kamio in a velator.

Would you be willing to name this 'permanent' gank alt....?

I'm afraid the whole New Order thing is getting a bit stale now.
By all means carry on, but wouldn't it be better to devise and do your own thing rather than hang off James315's coattails and convince yourself you are doing something awesome / original / worthwhile.
You are not a special snowflake.

Pomp and circumstance at best. I went to Kamino last night in my Procurer. I clearly stated that I had no permit and that I needed to be bumped or ganked, did I get saved or ganked? NO. I was very disappointed. They promise an education and swift wrath but deliver only words. Some of them at least have some good banter, but others take it way too serious with no action.

Now someone may say, did you want to be ganked? YES! the sheer entertainment value would have been worth the loss, but no they would not do it. Heck they would not even bump me. The best I got was you should try low or null sec, which tells me they did not even check me on the killboards.

I will also say that Miner Teck guy is quite a whiner, and has way too much anger.

Now if James will promise to gank me and post a video of it afterwards I will return.

If you are thrill-seeking, perhaps you'd consider joining us instead? It's the most fun you'll ever have in 6 seconds. Drop me or any other agent a mail or convo in-game if you want in on the action.

I just led my first gank.

The pilot was unable to purchase a new retriever.

If he had repented and gave a gf and embraced the violence that is part of eve, we'd have bought him one.

Since the miner didn't fight back I have to wonder what GF stands for.

Pomp and circumstance at best. I went to Kamino last night in my Procurer. I clearly stated that I had no permit and that I needed to be bumped or ganked, did I get saved or ganked? NO. I was very disappointed. They promise an education and swift wrath but deliver only words. Some of them at least have some good banter, but others take it way too serious with no action.

Funny... gf usually mean good fight. Fighting requires a minimum of two people duking it out.

You remind me of those kids that would go down the hallway and knock some kids books out of their hands and tell the principal "If he had said good fight I would have picked up his books"

Since the miner didn't fight back I have to wonder what GF stands for.

Noooo. The miner is supposed to take it seriously and get ticked off, not you. -_-

Here is another situation where misunderstanding the New Halaima Code of Conduct has created a complaint from an entitled carebear.

The Code clearly states that we will bump (or gank) whoever we choose. Its our system, we control it, we decide who gets to mine and who doesn't. We are under no compulsion to bump or gank a miner because he has decided we should. What the miner wants does not enter into our decisions unless he buys a permit and follows The Code. Then we have said we will not bump or gank him.

Until he meets the requirements of The Code, the New Order will decide for ourselves how far up our list he rises. The ONLY decision the miner gets to make is to buy a permit and follow The Code. If he decides not to, its up to us if he lives, dies, or shoots across the ice field backwards at 2000 m/s.

315 4 CSM8

Highsec is worth fighting for.

Bing Bangboom
Agent of the New Order of Highsec
Belligerent Undesirable

Funny... gf usually mean good fight. Fighting requires a minimum of two people duking it out.

You remind me of those kids that would go down the hallway and knock some kids books out of their hands and tell the principal "If he had said good fight I would have picked up his books"

Since the miner didn't fight back I have to wonder what GF stands for.

The Order is just about glorified piracy right? I must have misunderstood the ads because I had heard it was some stand against botters. But I ran into them several days ago as they literally chased another player around the system. A very responsive and panicked player mind you.

Actually I'd compare what we're doing to the suicide bombing of peace protesters. Every suicide ganker has to make sacrifices for the cause. Bullies tend to avoid damage or risk to themselves.

The Order is just about glorified piracy right?.

Only if you failed horribly at comprehending what it's really about.

I'm well aware of what it claims to be but it seems that piracy is just more fun in the end than crusading against botters.

I'm well aware of what it claims to be but it seems that piracy is just more fun in the end than crusading against botters.

It is also more fun when you feed people bullshit roleplay reasons for killing them.

Partial credit. But if the person can hear you then he was not a valid target to begin with.

Anything without a mining permit is a valid target.

Anyone who does not comply with the CODE is also a valid target. http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html

Which gives us a lot of valid targets, I'll admit.

Blackmail, wonderful...


Just give me the name of the system and I'll fix this mess with some proper bounties instead.

Blackmail, wonderful...


Just give me the name of the system and I'll fix this mess with some proper bounties instead.

All of HighSec.

New Order are a comedy sideshow, a small one.

I have never mined nor had any interaction with new order short of reading their members occasional posts about how much they are changing things...

OK I'm not sure why ppl have to post this crap on the forums. You take up valuable 1st page c&p space. So you blew up a few mining ships that had no real defense against you....Congrats you have won Eve......not. I personally don't understand the hatred for carebears seeing as they are one of, if not the, fundamental driving forces behind the market. Its basic high-school economics of supply and demand. Blow up the suppliers....demand goes through the roof as well as price. Your "need" to make ppl who want to play the game their own way play your way is foolish at best and downright ******** at worst. And no I'm not a carebear

What makes you think that some of the New Order supporters aren't taking advantage of the increase in demand and price? Destruction and production are the fundamental driving force of the economy, you can't have one without the other.

If you want to take a cynical view, the New Order is sponsored by industrialists looking to cash in on the mayhem. It's an aggressive marketing campaign, using both industrial espionage and economic warfare to remove some competition, have some laughs and make an obscene profit in the process. Real world companies would do exactly the same if there were no laws against it, take for an example an arms manufacturer, if they could start a war to sell their wares, they would, and tbh probably do, via subterfuge and lobbying, when they can get away with it.

Just give me the name of the system and I'll fix this mess with some proper bounties instead.

Why all the walls of text on why you gank or pew pew? You make up whole books of reasons, you call it 'cleansing' etcetera.

I'll tell you why I pew pew: because I am looking to cause some tears.

Shouldn't that be a simple enough reason?

o/

There is, after all, just one human activity left in which whole populations accomplish the union sacre.
It occurs in those middle phases of a war when fear, pugnacity, and hatred have secured complete dominion of the spirit, either to crush every other instinct or to enlist it, and before weariness is felt.