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Oisin
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Posted - 2005.08.21 04:26:00 -
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Gratz :)
Oisİn
(pronounced Uh-sheen)
The Council's carebear stepchild.
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VonKaplanek III
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Posted - 2005.08.21 04:55:00 -
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Amazing what nearly 30B isk and teamwork will do...
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fisty
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Posted - 2005.08.21 05:15:00 -
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Edited by: fisty on 21/08/2005 05:15:07
C O N G R A T U L A T I O N !!!
looks rly cool, i want one in my room:D
good luck to you guys and have fun with it, you surely earned it:D
to those ppl who are flaming this post, have some dignity and respect for others, this post is to bring joy to ASCN, so stop ******* around and say "but that....oh but this", no1 cares...
VIVA LA OUTPOST...
btw. u need any more stripers...?
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Raptorius
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Posted - 2005.08.21 05:27:00 -
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Great Teamwork
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.08.21 06:09:00 -
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ASCN Members: stop any and all discussion of flaming, MC, ganks, or otherwise, and please report to the strip club ASAP.
Nekkid Chicks > Forum Lamage
-Druid "Civis Ascendant"
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.08.21 06:21:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 21/08/2005 06:26:21
 Originally by: Gierling
4: If MC or our enemies wanted to, they could have cost ASCN close to 30 billion isk. That was what made us so terribly concerned.
We had no plans to interfere. Any convo prior to this from anyone in your leadership could have confirmed this and you all could have been a bit more relaxed. Instead, your leaders have turned this war into some sort of personal issue, smack is constantly flooding local, there is no respect on the battlefield and no one is talking to anyone because there is this bizarre perception that somehow the MC 'betrayed' ASCN with this war.
You claim to respect our abilities, but it is implied over and over in this thread that somehow you "won" something over us. You state that even though we knew about it, your actions kept us at bay. Do you actually think that we weren't willing or able to land 30-40 clone-range battleships on top of the Freighter carrying that Outpost and lose every one of them in order to destroy it? Do you think it was fear that stopped us?
We figured it would be enough that you got it up and running, but no. As has been typical of this war, the chest-pounding has even come here. Consider the number of times we've had the opportunity to say, "OMGWTFASCNPWND!!" and haven't done it, yet your forums, corp and alliance chat is constantly spammed with some of the most absurd crap and outright lies about us and what's going on. 
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5: MC Does not claim space, nor will it ever.
Then you know something that even we don't know. Chances are very good that as the game evolves we'll make a home for ourselves somewhere. Why people like you have the delusion that we lack both the will and the resources to do so never ceases to amaze me.
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It is safe to say that the history of inflicting 30 billion plus in damages in one fell swoop on a target would be far more worthwhile to them then an outpost down the road.
To this I can only say one thing: it used to be that 30 million was a lot of money. Then 300 million was unimaginable. In another year or two, once corps are producing things like T2 battleships, that 30 billion may very well be a drop in the bucket. As with dropping several billion ISK on a T2 BPO, time will tell if the decision was the right one or not.
EDIT - I've kept my distance from this thread and am now out of it. ASCN's conduct in this thread and through the entire war has just really surprised me.
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Volume
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Posted - 2005.08.21 06:59:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
Secondly, to assemble a fleet and then come down there would be pointless, as you would blob us 3-4 times over and there would be little we could do other than play with your blob for a while then go home bored to tears.
Fourthly, our little trip to 0.0 last night was in no way related to your little outpost going up. Our cov ops was sitting on top of your fleet for about 10minutes trying to figure out why you were all sitting at a planet before realising the little egg. We were bored already, so we decided to jump you and see what happened. Yes we died, no you didnt get our pods, no we didnt kill anything in the process. It was fun, the guys that were there said it was fun. It had nothing to do with the outpost really, its just it was the only blob on the map so we came to have a look
Fifthly, and finally, The MC is given a guideline by our client on what they want us to do. If we aint paid to stop you building outposts, then we aint gonna do it unless we feel like it. Now if someone had paid us to specifically stop you building this outpost and we had failed, you could call it a victory. But to try and twist this into some sort of great victory by ASCN over the MC is merely self dillusion.
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As a aside 4 mc showed up just before downtime at the outpost and got pwned
4BS, 2 cruisers and 4 frigs versus 4 cruisers and 2 frigs. Is it any wonder we died? You really do need to think about what you post. I could talk about the many times we have "pwned" ASCN but tbh, you're not worth the time with an attitude like that. Atleast the guys that were actually there were friendly.
Oh and gratz on the new outpost  . I can only imagine the hard work you guys put into building one
Curious.........
If Ericka was sitting on top of us for 10 minutes then you obviously knew what ship types we had there and it was your choice to warp in and get killed, so as for the outnumbered and outgunned statement, it was all your decision to jump in on us.... Yes it was Fun, No we didn't go for Pod kills after all what damage could pods do to a Vunerable Outpost as it was building ?
As for the earlier comment regarding being out blobbed,....
Hmm no real way to put this easy, but you are at war with one of the largest Alliances in EvE and the largest corp, surely there will be large numbers on our side, you don't want a blob war take smaller contracts and have fun with your ganking tactics...
And as for all the funny comments regarding the OOC freighters,.........lol
Not True as I helped escort these freighters and everyone that was present (freighter pilots included) were all ASCN members. And correct me if I'm wrong but usually your hired to induce debt to targets? or cause greif ? well wouldn't ganking multiple freighters with Outpost parts qualify as such ?
I am by no means beating my chest, I participated in only 1 engagement vs. MC this contract, and that was in 5p-aip while defending the outpost, quite frankly your tactics and ganking style bore me to death and are too predictable. So you wont get a fight from me in game or on the boards. In summary all I am saying is if you can play the game with intel, then please get all your intel correct before posting on the forums. m'kay ? oh and Thx for the Gratz comments, the respect for our intensive labor is duely noted.
Love thy neighbor like thyself, Crank up the Volume !
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Aeoluz
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Posted - 2005.08.21 07:01:00 -
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Magnificent achievement; many congratulations to all involved
Aeoluz
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Jennae
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Posted - 2005.08.21 07:09:00 -
[219]
where do I send my application to be employed as a dancer?
btw: Gratz guys :)
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Raindrop
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Posted - 2005.08.21 07:12:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
[EDIT - I've kept my distance from this thread and am now out of it. ASCN's conduct in this thread and through the entire war has just really surprised me.
Maybe Seleene you shouldn't reply to non ASCN members saying something about the outpost without expecting a reply to what you started.
It takes more effort to say less.
Raindrop
100% Carebear and loving it.
Collector of junk and leftovers.
NPC and low end minerals trader.
Hauler. |
Hoozin
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Posted - 2005.08.21 07:14:00 -
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Edited by: Hoozin on 21/08/2005 07:16:02
Congratz ASCN! Lots of hard work paid off I'm sure.
Quick question: is it actualy Promethesus Station? Or does CYVOK still have spelling issues?
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It takes more effort to say less.
I'll sign that.
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Carebears are cooler than you.
Haiku embroidered panties - On sale now at your local sharky outlet. |
Mr Stargate
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Posted - 2005.08.21 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: Hoozin
Edited by: Hoozin on 21/08/2005 07:16:02
Congratz ASCN! Lots of hard work paid off I'm sure.
Quick question: is it actualy Promethesus Station? Or does CYVOK still have spelling issues?
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It takes more effort to say less.
I'll sign that.
I bet its named Prometheus, like the ship from Stargate SG-1 :)
or maybe i spelled it wrong also (1:20 MA for me) :(
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EOG is Recruting Now <Click> |
dabster
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Posted - 2005.08.21 08:24:00 -
[223]
Great work ASCN, congrats :)
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Pyro Miner
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Posted - 2005.08.21 08:33:00 -
[224]
Very nice, gratz with that great outpost
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Pyro is the name...
Burning asteroids is my game... |
Omeega
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Posted - 2005.08.21 08:34:00 -
[225]
Omg. Niiiice, so manyyy hauleeeeeeeeeers 
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.08.21 08:36:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 21/08/2005 06:26:21
Originally by: Gierling
4: If MC or our enemies wanted to, they could have cost ASCN close to 30 billion isk. That was what made us so terribly concerned.
We had no plans to interfere. Any convo prior to this from anyone in your leadership could have confirmed this and you all could have been a bit more relaxed. Instead, your leaders have turned this war into some sort of personal issue, smack is constantly flooding local, there is no respect on the battlefield and no one is talking to anyone because there is this bizarre perception that somehow the MC 'betrayed' ASCN with this war.
You claim to respect our abilities, but it is implied over and over in this thread that somehow you "won" something over us. You state that even though we knew about it, your actions kept us at bay. Do you actually think that we weren't willing or able to land 30-40 clone-range battleships on top of the Freighter carrying that Outpost and lose every one of them in order to destroy it? Do you think it was fear that stopped us?
We figured it would be enough that you got it up and running, but no. As has been typical of this war, the chest-pounding has even come here. Consider the number of times we've had the opportunity to say, "OMGWTFASCNPWND!!" and haven't done it, yet your forums, corp and alliance chat is constantly spammed with some of the most absurd crap and outright lies about us and what's going on.
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5: MC Does not claim space, nor will it ever.
Then you know something that even we don't know. Chances are very good that as the game evolves we'll make a home for ourselves somewhere. Why people like you have the delusion that we lack both the will and the resources to do so never ceases to amaze me.
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It is safe to say that the history of inflicting 30 billion plus in damages in one fell swoop on a target would be far more worthwhile to them then an outpost down the road.
To this I can only say one thing: it used to be that 30 million was a lot of money. Then 300 million was unimaginable. In another year or two, once corps are producing things like T2 battleships, that 30 billion may very well be a drop in the bucket. As with dropping several billion ISK on a T2 BPO, time will tell if the decision was the right one or not.
EDIT - I've kept my distance from this thread and am now out of it. ASCN's conduct in this thread and through the entire war has just really surprised me.
Zloba told me MC was gonna be hired for life from RA. Welcome tu cache boys.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.08.21 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Volume
Hmm no real way to put this easy, but you are at war with one of the largest Alliances in EvE and the largest corp, surely there will be large numbers on our side, you don't want a blob war take smaller contracts and have fun with your ganking tactics...
It's not a complaint actually, it's a statement. While it is part of our contracual obligation, blob sitting is just, well, . . . boring. We have multiple avenues of action against ASCN during this contract and we will follow each one as it is important at that time. As for your apparent displeasure towards "gank tactics" . . . ASCN does the same thing, so please get off your high horse on that one.
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Not True as I helped escort these freighters and everyone that was present (freighter pilots included) were all ASCN members. And correct me if I'm wrong but usually your hired to induce debt to targets? or cause greif ? well wouldn't ganking multiple freighters with Outpost parts qualify as such ?
Just as a question, can you confirm if the freighters were piloted ALL of the way through empire space by ASCN IGA pilots or were the freighters moved into position by non-IGA/noob corp pilots prior to the move into 0.0 with escorts? And afterwards? Will they still be in ASCN corps?
*shrugs*
It's not really important, as both sides have said, the MC could and would have gone for the freighters in 0.0 if we had chose to. We had intel before the war dec had gone active of a large chunk of your outpost plans and had discused various engagement possibilities.
As we've said, congratulations on the outpost. You have made history in putting up the first outpost, the 30% Minmatar refinery. You indeed did it while at war with the MC, but the crowing about that is demeaning yourselves.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Kociak200
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Posted - 2005.08.21 09:20:00 -
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Have to comment on this...
Interesting way to slip in the "30% minmatar refinery" bit.
The exchanges between MC and ASCN are full of niceties and all, but then there are those "raisins" in every post. Makes me think of the way moms-in-law talk.
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fisty
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Posted - 2005.08.21 09:24:00 -
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tbh i thought more highly of the MC and ASCN not be flaming such historical moment in eve
i guess i was wrong....Kudos lost both sides...
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Inquisitus
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Posted - 2005.08.21 09:34:00 -
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Awesome! Well done ASCN!
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Carl Bowmore
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Posted - 2005.08.21 10:16:00 -
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Great work ASCN! That must have taken some serious commitment.
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Latex Mistress
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Posted - 2005.08.21 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: fisty
tbh i thought more highly of the MC and ASCN not be flaming such historical moment in eve i guess i was wrong....Kudos lost both sides...
Agreed. Repeated a second time for good measure:
Originally by: Latex Mistress
To the alts and the chest-beaters: give it a rest... ASCN made history and everyone is happy for it. Don't taint the entire thing by getting in your childish jabs, ok?
LM
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.08.21 10:43:00 -
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Edited by: Ithildin on 21/08/2005 10:44:53
EDIT: Removed unnecessary quotations and replies
Originally by: Alowishus
Player Owned Structure = POS
Player Owned Outpost = POO?
Strictly speaking a "player owned structure" is all of the three kinds - Starbase, Conquerable Station and Outpost. In general terms, however, POS is most often a reference to Starbases.
In early Castor, before the other two were introduced, POS were Conquerable Stations.
Originally by: Gierling
4: We did not want to mention this, but as it appears the newspost mentioned it I will iterate that the construction platform is NOT to the best of our knowledge indestructable. If MC or our enemies wanted to, they could have cost ASCN close to 30 billion isk. That was what made us so terribly concerned.
4: That news item was more than a little misspelled, and I do hope CCP's news team corrects it (if they haven't already)! As for the outpost, it will be completely invulnerable as long as the alliance owning the outpost claims sovreignty. If enough Starbases are put in a possition that sovreignty is not claimed for the solarsystem, the outpost will become vulnerable to anyone.
In other words
Congratulations on your new outpost. You should be glad to know that it will take much less than two years for the outpost to pay itself back as it was not constructed for the taxation, but for the convenience and pleasure of your sovreign pilots.
Mercenary Coaltion is still on our job, focused on the objectives set for us. We aren't out to get your assets, we are out to get you.
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You don't need to speak a language well to make a proper sentence, many grammar rules are universal. Please make an e |
Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.08.21 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kociak200
Have to comment on this...
Interesting way to slip in the "30% minmatar refinery" bit.
*shrugs*
Like Sel I've grown tired of some of the ASCN comments over the course of the contract, especially knowing what I know, and even my personal neutrality slips a bit at times. I'll edit it out the "30%" if it makes people more happy.
Personally I think ASCN have done well, but reading the various complaints about it being only 30% then the glorification here just rubbed me the wrong way when I was reading over the comments. My apologies, I'll try to ensure it doesn't happen again.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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greeny knight
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Posted - 2005.08.21 11:34:00 -
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damn it whas a nice site to see complete constelations going without a roid to build this
we got one , now we need a little break then number 2 i guess and, we need male dancers at the outposts for the lady's
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smaster
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Posted - 2005.08.21 12:41:00 -
[236]
wow it looks cool to bad I cant see it in 0.0 space lol
Combat Your Bane Torpedo perfectly strikes Serpentis Guard, wrecking for 750 damage |
LodeArm
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Posted - 2005.08.21 13:25:00 -
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Edited by: LodeArm on 21/08/2005 13:25:42
Well in my moments of sillyness agaisnt mc, ive been friendly as a matter of point in local. Although the repsones i recved from mc, seemed to often forget somthing.
"ITS A GAME"
So no need to have a fit about not getting the love your looking for mc. Id imagine most people find it hard to be frindly after getting ganked by the same old same, tactics. Ive yet to see an mc pilot stay and fight in a situation where they might (god forbid) lose. Although this has only been my personel experance.
Also note how this tread is becoming a sorta high class smack war, with every one taking the higher ground...
Its a Outpost  Groovy!
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2005.08.21 13:35:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 21/08/2005 13:37:57
we now have 2 reasons to build minny outposts - refinary and strip clubs :).
wd to ASCN. I just hope you have a crap-load of POS setup just in case someone decides to try and claim it 
Originally by: Ithildin
Originally by: Alowishus
Player Owned Structure = POS
Player Owned Outpost = POO?
Strictly speaking a "player owned structure" is all of the three kinds - Starbase, Conquerable Station and Outpost. In general terms, however, POS is most often a reference to Starbases.
In early Castor, before the other two were introduced, POS were Conquerable Stations.
I think someone missed the joke 
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Gilbert Drillerson
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Posted - 2005.08.21 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
EDIT - I've kept my distance from this thread and am now out of it. ASCN's conduct in this thread and through the entire war has just really surprised me.
What can i say ... rabble rabble rabble ?
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Latex Mistress
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Posted - 2005.08.21 13:45:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Latex Mistress
To the alts and the chest-beaters: give it a rest... ASCN made history and everyone is happy for it. Don't taint the entire thing by getting in your childish jabs, ok?
Originally by: LodeArm
So no need to have a fit about not getting the love your looking for mc. Id imagine most people find it hard to be frindly after getting ganked by the same old same, tactics. Ive yet to see an mc pilot stay and fight in a situation where they might (god forbid) lose. Although this has only been my personel experance.
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