Originally by: aeti

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oooh
somebody must have fraps of it deploying?

and any chance of screenshots of what it looks like inside when docked?

and some of those textures up the top make me cry :(

anyways good job :o

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Originally by: CYVOK

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EvE's First Outpost Platform was constructed in Empire and deployed in 5P-AIP despite an ongoing war declaration by the MC.

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Originally by: KSUDruid

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Edited by: KSUDruid on 20/08/2005 12:36:17
To echo the sentiments to all the great people in the ASCN who worked their asscot's off to make this happen.

Here's a little frapsage of it this morning.

All our friends are welcome to stop by and have a cold drink at prometheus station. The Strip Club has fantastic burgers and the scenery ain't too bad either.

ASCN 4TW!

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Originally by: CYVOK

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Edited by: CYVOK on 20/08/2005 12:13:10
Edited by: CYVOK on 20/08/2005 12:07:39
ThatÆs right folks, we just won EvE!

Promethesus Station became active at 11:29 Zulu on 20 August 2005.

Complete with a strip club!!! (Look at the pics)

EvE's First Outpost Platform was constructed in Empire and deployed in 5P-AIP despite an ongoing war declaration by the MC.

The unprecedented team work of all of ASCN managed to not only move 4.3M m3 worth of goods from Empire to the Platform location we also made 7 Freighter trips all in less then 24 hours to complete this project.

I would like to give my sincere thanks to ALL ASCN Citizens, you guys made this happen!!!!!

Screen shots here

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Your screenshots have about the same time on them as when I was there taking pictures myself

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Originally by: Zzazzt

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& Seleene - what went wrong?

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Originally by: KIAEddZ

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So, the question is, which corp will be the first to attempt to kill it.

A dread heavy one no doubt.

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Originally by: Seleene

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Originally by: KIAEddZ

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So, the question is, which corp will be the first to attempt to kill it.

A dread heavy one no doubt.

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Eddz (and everyone who doesn't know for that matter...),

The outpost is there pretty much forever. You can't blow it up. What you can do is take it over. In order to do so (and correct me if I am wrong), you must first destroy any POS's in the system that are claiming sovereignty. Once that is done you can set up your own POS and claim the system, then move to take over the Outpost and it becomes yours.

The **** thing about outposts is that they rely on the POS's in the system for their sole defense. You can't put guns around it or anything. In that respect, they are just as susceptible to being camped as a normal station anywhere else.

Yes, we knew about the operation. ItÆs our job to know. No, we did not make any special effort to interfere in ASCN's deployment of it outside of our normal scope of operations. Had we managed to stop it, sure that would have been pretty ugly for ASCN. However, such a thing is much more valuable in its finished state.

So, the bottom line is that whoever builds an Outpost puts forth all of this amazing effort, but then someone else could come along and take it all away from them. I doubt it will be us, at least not now, but any alliance who deploys one of these things is painting a giant bulls-eye on their space that shows an enemy exactly where they can do the most damage.

I think it's awesome because it gives players a real reason to fight and live in 0.0 and, as Cyvok surely knows, Outposts are just the tip of the iceberg to true 0.0 colonization. This is just the first step. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.

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Yes, we knew about the operation. ItÆs our job to know. No, we did not make any special effort to interfere in ASCN's deployment of it outside of our normal scope of operations. Had we managed to stop it, sure that would have been pretty ugly for ASCN. However, such a thing is much more valuable in its finished state.

So, the bottom line is that whoever builds an Outpost puts forth all of this amazing effort, but then someone else could come along and take it all away from them. I doubt it will be us, at least not now, but any alliance who deploys one of these things is painting a giant bulls-eye on their space that shows an enemy exactly where they can do the most damage.

I think it's awesome because it gives players a real reason to fight and live in 0.0 and, as Cyvok surely knows, Outposts are just the tip of the iceberg to true 0.0 colonization. This is just the first step. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.

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Originally by: Seleene

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...but any alliance who deploys one of these things is painting a giant bulls-eye on their space that shows an enemy exactly where they can do the most damage...

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Originally by: Seleene

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Originally by: KIAEddZ

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So, the question is, which corp will be the first to attempt to kill it.

A dread heavy one no doubt.

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The outpost is there pretty much forever. You can't blow it up. What you can do is take it over. In order to do so (and correct me if I am wrong), you must first destroy any POS's in the system that are claiming sovereignty. Once that is done you can set up your own POS and claim the system, then move to take over the Outpost and it becomes yours.

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Originally by: Fulmen

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Congrats guys. Always knew you'd be first.

BTW, how much does it cost to get into the "Champagne Room"?

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Originally by: Blue Max

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Edited by: Blue Max on 20/08/2005 19:14:17
Edited by: Blue Max on 20/08/2005 19:13:52
Edited by: Blue Max on 20/08/2005 19:13:03
Hello Fulmen! Hope all is well, dude!

CONGRATS TO THE MINERS, BUILDERS, HAULERS & PROTECTORS!

Great job! Quite impressive!

Look forward to helping with the next dozen Outposts!

GO ASCN!!! Bravo leadership! Good job!

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Originally by: Qayos

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Edited by: Qayos on 20/08/2005 21:19:55

Has anyone else noticed there havnt been less than like 20 pilots in the station for quite some time?

I think the stripclub is making some serious frikin ISK.

EDIT: tyop

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Originally by: Qayos

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Edited by: Qayos on 20/08/2005 21:19:55

Has anyone else noticed there havnt been less than like 20 pilots in the station for quite some time?

I think the stripclub is making some serious frikin ISK.

EDIT: tyop

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Originally by: Sku1ly

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I'm never babysitting a freighter again.

Ever.

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Originally by: Band Zior

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No amount of kills on the famous killboard can outweight the failure of the MC to stop this operation or at least to inflict heavy losses on the freighter/hauler fleet.

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Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage

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Originally by: Grimpak

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Originally by: Band Zior

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No amount of kills on the famous killboard can outweight the failure of the MC to stop this operation or at least to inflict heavy losses on the freighter/hauler fleet.

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please don't flame it. The thread is just to show that we putted up an outpost (the first outpost in EVE afaik), not to comment about who failed what.

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Originally by: Band Zior

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No amount of kills on the famous killboard can outweight the failure of the MC to stop this operation or at least to inflict heavy losses on the freighter/hauler fleet.

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Originally by: Band Zior

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Originally by: Grimpak

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Originally by: Band Zior

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No amount of kills on the famous killboard can outweight the failure of the MC to stop this operation or at least to inflict heavy losses on the freighter/hauler fleet.

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please don't flame it. The thread is just to show that we putted up an outpost (the first outpost in EVE afaik), not to comment about who failed what.

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It is not a flame, but as it is a discussion forum. Posting my opinion here. And there's no denying the fact that ASCN managed this feat while having the MC contract active. This is an important a feature of the story of the first EVE outpost.

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Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage

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Originally by: ZelRox

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Alts 4tl ,

Good job ASCN

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Originally by: Band Zior

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No amount of kills on the famous killboard can outweight the failure of the MC to stop this operation or at least to inflict heavy losses on the freighter/hauler fleet.

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Originally by: Coasterbrian

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Edited by: Coasterbrian on 20/08/2005 23:15:48
For the record, we moved 5 freighter loads of goods down, spread over 3 freighters. 2 freighters were piloted by CLS members, the other was piloted by a CORM member. Just to head off the rumors. :)

Oh, and alts suck.

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Originally by: Sikfyrestarter

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Woot Good Job ASCN! It brings a tear to my eye to see that the first outpost is minny Now that is done do we get to go blow up stuff again?

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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Congrats ASCN!

May i ask why you put it up in that system?

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Originally by: CdCommander

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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq

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Congrats ASCN!

May i ask why you put it up in that system?

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That part of feyth is a very good veldspar mining area, theres also a 10/10 next door

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Originally by: Latex Mistress

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For the record, nobody in the MC could be arsed to login at 5am en-masse and try to mount an offensive maneuver 40+ jumps away. Not only that, but it's blatantly obvious that no matter what kind of fleet we could have put up, we would have been blobbed 6x over.

To the alts and the chest-beaters: give it a rest... ASCN made history and everyone is happy for it. Don't taint the entire thing by getting in your childish jabs, ok?

LM

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Originally by: HonorHarrington

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umm...you didnt stop it because
1. you didnt know or
2. you did not have a fleet big enought to challenge the escort or the outpost fleet.
the choice you gave:
3. "well we chose not to do anything" is silly. I have respect for you guys. You are good ambushers, but You know this makes you guys look bad

As a aside 4 mc showed up just before downtime at the outpost and got pwned

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Thirdly, the "outpost fleet" was piloted by non-IGA corps, so we couldnt attack them in empire, flown at off peak hours, when we are at our weakest, and through hostile 0.0 (stain). Now this is mostly guess work, but i think its fairly obvious.

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Originally by: Jorev

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Very well done, now you guys have to take a good care of this baby. Many will make it a point to try to rob you of it, and many will try to attack you just to keep relevant.

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Originally by: Murphy

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Originally by: Jorev

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Very well done, now you guys have to take a good care of this baby. Many will make it a point to try to rob you of it, and many will try to attack you just to keep relevant.

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There was 2 main reasons for building it. To attract people to shoot and of course the strip club

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Originally by: Jorev

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Edited by: Jorev on 21/08/2005 00:31:05

Originally by: Murphy

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Originally by: Jorev

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Very well done, now you guys have to take a good care of this baby. Many will make it a point to try to rob you of it, and many will try to attack you just to keep relevant.

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There was 2 main reasons for building it. To attract people to shoot and of course the strip club

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You know that you can't transport Dancers in a freighter?

Looks like another massive haulage for ASCN pilots is looming.

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Originally by: Recluse XXX

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Originally by: Band Zior

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No amount of kills on the famous killboard can outweight the failure of the MC to stop this operation or at least to inflict heavy losses on the freighter/hauler fleet.

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That depends if the Haulers and Freighters were piloted by members of ACSN (the IGA) and not alot of hang arounds.

I think that we never will discover the truth about that.

/me waves to SHOP

//Rec

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Originally by: Eyeshadow

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Thirdly, the "outpost fleet" was piloted by non-IGA corps, so we couldnt attack them in empire, flown at off peak hours, when we are at our weakest, and through hostile 0.0 (stain). Now this is mostly guess work, but i think its fairly obvious.

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Originally by: Saatar Fora

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Murphy made the outpost smell like cheese.

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Originally by: Gierling

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4: If MC or our enemies wanted to, they could have cost ASCN close to 30 billion isk. That was what made us so terribly concerned.

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5: MC Does not claim space, nor will it ever.

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It is safe to say that the history of inflicting 30 billion plus in damages in one fell swoop on a target would be far more worthwhile to them then an outpost down the road.

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Originally by: Eyeshadow

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Secondly, to assemble a fleet and then come down there would be pointless, as you would blob us 3-4 times over and there would be little we could do other than play with your blob for a while then go home bored to tears.


Fourthly, our little trip to 0.0 last night was in no way related to your little outpost going up. Our cov ops was sitting on top of your fleet for about 10minutes trying to figure out why you were all sitting at a planet before realising the little egg. We were bored already, so we decided to jump you and see what happened. Yes we died, no you didnt get our pods, no we didnt kill anything in the process. It was fun, the guys that were there said it was fun. It had nothing to do with the outpost really, its just it was the only blob on the map so we came to have a look

Fifthly, and finally, The MC is given a guideline by our client on what they want us to do. If we aint paid to stop you building outposts, then we aint gonna do it unless we feel like it. Now if someone had paid us to specifically stop you building this outpost and we had failed, you could call it a victory. But to try and twist this into some sort of great victory by ASCN over the MC is merely self dillusion.

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As a aside 4 mc showed up just before downtime at the outpost and got pwned

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4BS, 2 cruisers and 4 frigs versus 4 cruisers and 2 frigs. Is it any wonder we died? You really do need to think about what you post. I could talk about the many times we have "pwned" ASCN but tbh, you're not worth the time with an attitude like that. Atleast the guys that were actually there were friendly.

Oh and gratz on the new outpost . I can only imagine the hard work you guys put into building one

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Originally by: Seleene

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[EDIT - I've kept my distance from this thread and am now out of it. ASCN's conduct in this thread and through the entire war has just really surprised me.

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It takes more effort to say less.

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Originally by: Hoozin

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Edited by: Hoozin on 21/08/2005 07:16:02
Congratz ASCN! Lots of hard work paid off I'm sure.

Quick question: is it actualy Promethesus Station? Or does CYVOK still have spelling issues?

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It takes more effort to say less.

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I'll sign that.

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Originally by: Seleene

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Edited by: Seleene on 21/08/2005 06:26:21

Originally by: Gierling

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4: If MC or our enemies wanted to, they could have cost ASCN close to 30 billion isk. That was what made us so terribly concerned.

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We had no plans to interfere. Any convo prior to this from anyone in your leadership could have confirmed this and you all could have been a bit more relaxed. Instead, your leaders have turned this war into some sort of personal issue, smack is constantly flooding local, there is no respect on the battlefield and no one is talking to anyone because there is this bizarre perception that somehow the MC 'betrayed' ASCN with this war.

You claim to respect our abilities, but it is implied over and over in this thread that somehow you "won" something over us. You state that even though we knew about it, your actions kept us at bay. Do you actually think that we weren't willing or able to land 30-40 clone-range battleships on top of the Freighter carrying that Outpost and lose every one of them in order to destroy it? Do you think it was fear that stopped us?

We figured it would be enough that you got it up and running, but no. As has been typical of this war, the chest-pounding has even come here. Consider the number of times we've had the opportunity to say, "OMGWTFASCNPWND!!" and haven't done it, yet your forums, corp and alliance chat is constantly spammed with some of the most absurd crap and outright lies about us and what's going on.

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5: MC Does not claim space, nor will it ever.

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Then you know something that even we don't know. Chances are very good that as the game evolves we'll make a home for ourselves somewhere. Why people like you have the delusion that we lack both the will and the resources to do so never ceases to amaze me.

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It is safe to say that the history of inflicting 30 billion plus in damages in one fell swoop on a target would be far more worthwhile to them then an outpost down the road.

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To this I can only say one thing: it used to be that 30 million was a lot of money. Then 300 million was unimaginable. In another year or two, once corps are producing things like T2 battleships, that 30 billion may very well be a drop in the bucket. As with dropping several billion ISK on a T2 BPO, time will tell if the decision was the right one or not.

EDIT - I've kept my distance from this thread and am now out of it. ASCN's conduct in this thread and through the entire war has just really surprised me.

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Originally by: Volume

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Hmm no real way to put this easy, but you are at war with one of the largest Alliances in EvE and the largest corp, surely there will be large numbers on our side, you don't want a blob war take smaller contracts and have fun with your ganking tactics...

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Not True as I helped escort these freighters and everyone that was present (freighter pilots included) were all ASCN members. And correct me if I'm wrong but usually your hired to induce debt to targets? or cause greif ? well wouldn't ganking multiple freighters with Outpost parts qualify as such ?

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Originally by: fisty

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tbh i thought more highly of the MC and ASCN not be flaming such historical moment in eve i guess i was wrong....Kudos lost both sides...

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Originally by: Latex Mistress

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To the alts and the chest-beaters: give it a rest... ASCN made history and everyone is happy for it. Don't taint the entire thing by getting in your childish jabs, ok?

LM

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Originally by: Alowishus

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Player Owned Structure = POS
Player Owned Outpost = POO?

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Originally by: Gierling

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4: We did not want to mention this, but as it appears the newspost mentioned it I will iterate that the construction platform is NOT to the best of our knowledge indestructable. If MC or our enemies wanted to, they could have cost ASCN close to 30 billion isk. That was what made us so terribly concerned.

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Originally by: Kociak200

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Have to comment on this...
Interesting way to slip in the "30% minmatar refinery" bit.

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Originally by: Ithildin

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Originally by: Alowishus

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Player Owned Structure = POS
Player Owned Outpost = POO?

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Strictly speaking a "player owned structure" is all of the three kinds - Starbase, Conquerable Station and Outpost. In general terms, however, POS is most often a reference to Starbases.
In early Castor, before the other two were introduced, POS were Conquerable Stations.

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Originally by: Seleene

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EDIT - I've kept my distance from this thread and am now out of it. ASCN's conduct in this thread and through the entire war has just really surprised me.

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Originally by: Latex Mistress

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To the alts and the chest-beaters: give it a rest... ASCN made history and everyone is happy for it. Don't taint the entire thing by getting in your childish jabs, ok?

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Originally by: LodeArm

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So no need to have a fit about not getting the love your looking for mc. Id imagine most people find it hard to be frindly after getting ganked by the same old same, tactics. Ive yet to see an mc pilot stay and fight in a situation where they might (god forbid) lose. Although this has only been my personel experance.

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Originally by: Sarmaul

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Originally by: Ithildin

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Originally by: Alowishus

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Player Owned Structure = POS
Player Owned Outpost = POO?

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Strictly speaking a "player owned structure" is all of the three kinds - Starbase, Conquerable Station and Outpost. In general terms, however, POS is most often a reference to Starbases.
In early Castor, before the other two were introduced, POS were Conquerable Stations.

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I think someone missed the joke

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Originally by: Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol

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grats

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Originally by: Joshua Calvert

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Originally by: Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol

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grats

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Man, I'd hate having to call you as a target.

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Originally by: Prothos

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Hmm i hope Latex Misstres and Seleene Come and dance in the strip club on amutuer night. We could rake in the isk for admission.

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Originally by: Trooper B99

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Edited by: Trooper B99 on 21/08/2005 10:57:41

Just as a question, can you confirm if the freighters were piloted ALL of the way through empire space by ASCN IGA (well, lets just say ASCN warred pilots) pilots or were the freighters moved into position by non-warred corp pilots prior to the move into 0.0 with escorts? And afterwards? Will they still be in ASCN corps?

*shrugs*

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Originally by: Omeega

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I LUB YOU COASTER !!!

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Originally by: Seleene

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Edited by: Seleene on 21/08/2005 16:26:08

Originally by: Prothos

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Hmm i hope Latex Misstres and Seleene Come and dance in the strip club on amutuer night. We could rake in the isk for admission.

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Amateurnight?!

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Originally by: Coasterbrian

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Alright, everyone cut this crap out. Next CLS member that posts anything even remotely smacky toward MC I'm gonna pod. This **** had gone far enough.

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Originally by: Drakma

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Originally by: Coasterbrian

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Alright, everyone cut this crap out. Next CLS member that posts anything even remotely smacky toward MC I'm gonna pod. This **** had gone far enough.

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I've changed my mine... Can I have YOUR babies?

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Originally by: Seleene

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Edited by: Seleene on 21/08/2005 16:26:08

Originally by: Prothos

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Hmm i hope Latex Misstres and Seleene Come and dance in the strip club on amutuer night. We could rake in the isk for admission.

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Amateurnight?!

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Originally by: Morela

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"hey! I'm gonna go attack the north! Afk till tuesday!"

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Originally by: F'nog

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All our base are belong to us.

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