Can we get a TL:DR?
And if you knew it is "Yet another anti-cloaking thread" then why did you start it rather than just put your ideas on the other thread(s) on the first page.

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I'd make a TL;DR if I could summarize everything in a sentence or less. Or if I just didn't want people to actually read it.

And I chose to make my own thread since it was an articulated idea rather than just trying to create some means of not letting people remain cloaked indefinitely while afk, which is what the other thread is about. This isn't me wanting a passive way of being able to fit my POS with a way to allow me to detect cloaky ships on d-scan because cloaking is scary OP when the name isn't one from my alliance, this is me wanting an active way of fitting a ship to be able to either detect overconfident/stupid cloaking ships at some expense to myself, willing to make sacrifices to counter a threat to operational security as it were.

So you want a module made to shy off only mining lasers and no other module, seems broken to me. Why should an AOE module disable only one type of ship, every other AOE affects all ships in the area equally. For instance ECM burst hits all ships the same, warp bubbles hit all ships (-T3 nullified) the same, smart bombs do the same base damage to all ships in there area.
So I ask why should this only shut off mining lasers an not the guns on your ship and the shield transporter on your logi ship or the MWD on the interceptor or any other module that requires activation?

So you want a module made to shy off only mining lasers and no other module, seems broken to me. Why should an AOE module disable only one type of ship, every other AOE affects all ships in the area equally. For instance ECM burst hits all ships the same, warp bubbles hit all ships (-T3 nullified) the same, smart bombs do the same base damage to all ships in there area.
So I ask why should this only shut off mining lasers an not the guns on your ship and the shield transporter on your logi ship or the MWD on the interceptor or any other module that requires activation?

This forum is for the discussion and evaluation of potential game improvements.... we don't care for rhetoric ************... and that's why we want TL;DR;'s

Cloaking, in general, is very well balanced. It hides your location and makes you untargetable in exchange for severely limiting what you can do....

Using a cloak to travel safely around is the fundamental role of the covert cloak... and these tools you suggested essentially destroy that ability.

Can you please explain what's wrong with people cloaking up to get safe? You've already discovered you can uncloak a ship by flying near them... you can prevent a ship from cloaking by targetting them... and its not like they can attack you while cloaked... So, please tell me what problem, or issue, or imbalance you are trying to solve with this suggestion?

Yet again nerf cloak thread,

Yet again you fail to realize the true problem, what you are trying to do is nerf a counter to a perfect intel tool. Cloaking was design around escaping local chat so if you want to come up with ideas on you first are going to have to come up with ideas on how to remove local in a sensible manner. Before you can counter a counter, you must first eliminate what the counter was design to counter. (try saying that five times fast, I dare you.)

Unfortunately, I mostly fly in w-space, so that scenario already exists. And I would have absolutely no problem with cloaking ships getting the ability to "hop off" of local chat when their cloaks are running. The only thing I really wonder about there is how it would handle local's numbers. Would it still show that 10 people are in local when 2/10 of them are cloaked or would it show 8? I think there could be something to be said about not knowing who's out there ;p

And I tried to say it five times fast and was doing good, but stumbled at eliminate when I hit the fourth time. It turned into something like "elimunu-fack".

This is not made to counter the luxuries commonly associated with cloaking. This is made to deter people from lurking over prey, waiting for the moment their fleet arrives to strike. This is made to stop people from being able to use ECM then cloak up once your target lock is no longer established. For ships capable of fitting a covops cloak this is likely one of the few ways the ship could even be targeted to begin with (making the daring assumption the pilot is competent). The idea is that the people that this will actually affect are those that aren't using the cloak to play safe, they're using it to play predator or hit-and-run. It reveals them for a moment (or until they leave the field for the T2 Destroyer version), but from then on they know that they are no longer in full control of their situation.

The idea is that this is not meant to punish players that just want to stroll through space with an extra bit of security. But now I'm just repeating myself.

A.) A person that lurks over their prey just waiting for a small gang to come clear them up leaves the person that is killed no chance to retaliate or even know how to handle the threat short of "don't play Eve."

And hit-and-run tactics exist well outside of cloaking so much so that those that want to prevent hit-and-run need a module to do it, it's just that with cloaking there is no way to hit them back once they run unless they want to hit you again.

B.) The first time you brought this up I also said it could be restricted to needing to be used away from gates. You could even in-game-logic it and say that gates/wormholes interfere with them due to some quantum flux problems that overheat the unobtainium alloys they employ. The idea is that this is not meant to punish players that just want to stroll through space with an extra bit of security. But now I'm just repeating myself.

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Furthermore, suggestions should contain some kind of argument why things need to be changed.
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Because people want to hunt down cloaked ships and current game mechanics do not hold any modules, ways, ships or anything to find cloaked ships from the void of space.

Purpose of a cloaking device is to make your ship undetectable. Why do you want to break the module by removing it's purpose?

Which is exactly the point of a cloak

There is always a way to counter a threat... but sometimes that counter is more reactionary and preventative more than "proactive"

Also... you are confusing who is doing the "hitting and running." It's the cloaky ships.

Then it would be useless in most other capacities as you still can't probe down people sitting cloaked and afk in a safespot... and for those situations where it won't be useless it arbitrarily nerfs some ships while not affecting others.

Which is exactly the point of a cloak

The point of a weapon is to deal damage. Do you disagree with the existence of tanking modules, some of which outright remove the damage you dealt? The point of a propulsion module is to go faster. Do you disagree with the existence of a stasis webifier? The point of a warp scrambler/disruptor is to prevent people from warping. Do you disagree with the existence of warp stabilizers? Virtually every shipboard module that creates an advantage has an opposing module made to deny that advantage.

And thats why people whine about it and thats why there should be something that allows people to find them.