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Posted - 2005.08.23 09:29:00 - [1]

Originally by: Naughty Boy
*gasp* It is not nice to question people's intelligence. It is not even clever to do it in a way that shows that you didn't understand most of what was said previously.

Nobody said that there is no counter to a thorax. Nobody even said that another cruiser cannot win in a 1 vs 1 situation against a thorax. Get it ? The problem is not that people do not know how to fight a thorax.

The problem is that the drone bay of the thorax is to big to be a cruiser weapon, it is a battleship weapon in damage and range. The tracking is more like a very good cruiser weapon or a frigate weapon than a battleship weapon. The range, 45 km, isn't close range in the frigate and cruiser world, it is not even mid range but long range in the cruiser world. The damage output of drones alone is what most battleships do at that range with all their guns, without using damage mods. And that is with much more skills dedicated to gunnery than the thorax pilot even has to have in "drone operation".

Now, who does look stupid. You sir, do have a big mouth but not what it takes to back it up.

Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy.


Oh common, if a thorax user sends its drones to a target 45km away the opponent either kills the half of the drones or kills the thorax or has more than enough time to move away. If a BS does the same damage with all their guns at 45km like 10 heavy drones then the BS user has all Skills only or statistics, at level 1 or so. With average Large Weapon skills (to be able to use 10 Heavy Drones you need maxed good drone skills) u do more damage, u can kill the Rax before its drones arrive at you. Gallente is the 'Drone Race' so why shouldn't it have a cruiser with extraordinary drone space. The Arbitrator, an Amarr ship, can hold 6 Heavy Drones, and you want to decrease the drone bay of a drone race ship to 100 (4 heavy drones). Naughty Boy you better should use your intelligence before you post.

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Posted - 2005.08.23 11:06:00 - [2]

Originally by: Naughty Boy
And, furthermore, nobody is talking about 10 heavy drones (maxed drones skills) but 8 heavy drones (drones to level 5, drone interfacing to level 3).


So all that much wind only about 2 Heavy Drones (8 in Thorax, 6 in Arbitrator). Lol, ahh, big lol. Blaster are nice, very nice, if your opponent let you warp in at very close range. Oh, a very hypothetical situation too. And, btw. also a cruiser fittet for long range fight can kill at least 2 - 4 of the Thorax' drones if he start drone attack at 45km. In short range fight thorax is a very good ship, sure. But every ship has a specific role, Caracal in short range and you become perforated faster than u can send 2 volleys of your heavy missiles, it's a long range ship. Thorax, attacked by a sniping cruiser, has no chance to do any damage. It has to come close, very close, and that in most situations need time, time for the opponent to kill the thorax. If there is something that should be changed it should be the 1600mm plates, because those are BS sized modules like 100MN MWD/AB and it should not be possible to fit them into something smaller than BS.
   
 
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