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Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.18 12:42:00 -
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I honestly thought it was a troll post until I saw this, the OP ticked so many carebear cliches. Poe's Law at work I guess. |
Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
359
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Posted - 2013.03.18 12:50:00 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:In some ways its down to user common sense, with over pimping ships and not being aware of your surroundings.
In other cases it's down to the horrible difference between PVP and PVE fits where in a PVE ship has to out of necessity sacrifice most of its EHP in order to achieve a worthwhile active tank. A PVP ship shields has to last maybe 30 seconds to a minute in a brawl and takes maybe 70k EHP damage. A PVE ship may absorb 10x that much damage over the course of a mission, or more but only have 20k EHP at any given time.
But so long as PVE missions are what they are, people will continue to fly ships which can be instapopped by a small group of nados.
That's why an ISK tank is an option for mission ships. Without that 1.5bn Shield Booster, the Golem would make a much less tempting target.
However your EHP figures are off. A nekkid Golem would have 40k EHP. 60k EHP with the DC II. 80k with his hardeners on.
Judging by the damage taken on the killmail, he didn't have his tank modules turned on. |
Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
359
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Posted - 2013.03.18 13:10:00 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:Takseen wrote:Judging by the damage taken on the killmail, he didn't have his tank modules turned on. That was the bit I mentioned about not being familiar with how things work. My point was more towards the preferred ganked mission ships which are the T3s.
The lower EHP is generally compensated for by the smaller sig radius. Of course nothing will save a Tengu pilot who fits like this |
Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
359
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Posted - 2013.03.18 13:13:00 -
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Tippia wrote:
Afaik, killmails display HP, not EHP, so the only difference you'd ever see as far as tanking goes is if it has received a lot of local or remote repping before it pops.
Oh right. Then he might have had his tank mods on.
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Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
359
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:52:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Posting in stealth nerf-hisec thread. False-flag carebear alt of a nullbear is obvious.
Unless the killmail is removed for lack of verification, I doubt it. |
Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
359
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Posted - 2013.03.18 18:09:00 -
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HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:Doubt it is working as intended or they would not have the Mining barge changes. Try again
Mining barges had a harder time fitting a decent tank compared to mission ships. |
Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
359
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Posted - 2013.03.18 19:19:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:evedawn wrote:Secondly because its never happened to me before & I've never heard it could happen! Hang on a second... logical disconnect here. So, you WORKED your way into a Golem (not cheap, not easy skill-wise), but you don't know anything about suicide ganking?!?! Really? 0/10 for too-obvious of a troll.
If you don't read the forums and have a wee bit of luck, you could go for years without being suicide ganked. |
Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
359
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Posted - 2013.03.18 19:31:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:That does not mean that it is not easy, it could just as easily mean that people are simply having trouble understanding Concord mechanics. GǪwhich means it's not easy. Actually no. Not being sure of how exactly concord works, has nothing to do with how easy/hard the act of ganking and profiting from that ganking is. It just means the idea of concord is ballyhoo functioning as a deterrent, without actually being one in physicality.
Of course it acts as a deterrent. Otherwise pirates would just shoot ALL the miners and missioners they could lock. |
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