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evedawn
Pacific Glori NZ
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Posted - 2013.03.18 03:31:00 -
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A Very Dissatisfied player!!!
Yesterday I got Insta popped in a Golem undocking from Osmon Station.
What is the point of wardec's or faction warfare if you can get a team of 5 guys in high Sec with heavy fitted Teir 3 BC's & insta pop a 3 bil isk ship who has no connection with these idiots???
I think this is a serious flaw with the game!!!
I have worked hard & long hours to earn this ship for a easy kill from someone I didnt even know existed & thought just because they could pop me for being in the same place they were in, a supposidly "High Security" area.......... JOKE Joke!
CCP a very serious question if you wont honest missionaries to wont to play this game?
If I choose to, I should be able to play this game safely if that is the way you supposedly are saying I am able to do?????
Is that true???? Is High Sec a mith??? |
Unit XS365BT
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2013.03.18 03:49:00 -
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Firstly, this is the wrong section of the forums to post this.
Secondly, EvE is an open-world PvP game. High-sec has much stronger penalties for non-consentual PvP, but space is inherently a dangerous place.
While it is unfortunate that you lost such an expensive ship, It is the nature of the game.
One of the first rules that many learn regarding EvE is this : Do not fly a ship you cannot afford to lose (read 'replace')
A war declaration simply removes the penalty for shooting someone in space.
in this case, those 5 people, unless you somehow got a suspect flag with them or accepted a limited engagement with them (duel), would have lost their ships soon after opening fire upon yours.
I would note that it is likely you were somewhat unlucky. but I do wonder, How is it that you were flying a 3 billion isk ship, without knowing that you can be shot anywhere? |
evedawn
Pacific Glori NZ
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Posted - 2013.03.18 04:19:00 -
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Firstly what is the right section then?
Secondly because its never happened to me before & I've never heard it could happen!
The only thing that happened before was I got a pirate in a mission & laughed at him because he got shot from the mission pirates...
I never got a suspect flag & did not see any of them get blown up afterwards. I am still waiting to see battlelinic's report on the event.
Still think High Sec is a mith & the game is unbalanced towards or for the aggressor with skills. In other words bully training in motion... |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.03.18 05:33:00 -
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It happens all the time. It's suicide ganking, and there are many tactics developed specifically to accomplish it (fits that maximize alpha strike capability, etc). It will take several seconds for CONCORD to arrive, they do not arrive immediately (the time it takes is based on the security rating of the system). It's not immediate, but he people that attacked you would have gotten destroyed shortly after they killed you.
This is intended. You could indeed say that high security is a "myth", because it is not supposed to be 100% safe. Players who believe it is 100% safe are deluding themselves. The only thing high security does is ensure that your attacker will themselves die. It does not guarantee your survival, and is not intended to.
The only way to be 100% safe is to never undock. If you undock, you are always opening yourself to risk, even in high sec. That is the nature of EVE. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.18 08:38:00 -
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Moving from Live Events Discussion to General Discussion.
New Eden Community Representative GÇ+ New Eden Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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Radamant Nemess
Caribbean Coke Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.03.18 08:48:00 -
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Osmon is nice place to grind sisters missions and get (profit) sisters probe launchers from their lp store. This is probably one of the best stations (sisters only station in highsec with lvl 4 agent) for lvl4 missioning and others know that too. Osmon was (maybe still is) known as a Tengu graveyard, wonder why? Lots of people want fat kills on their kill list, so Tengus and Golems make a nice trophy.. If you want to stick there, be extra careful next time, and activate all defensive modules the moment you undock or change the location where you grind missions. EVE is not a safe place. Bear that in mind at all times, not just when you lose your isk printing ship..
i can fail at any speed you like |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13267
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Posted - 2013.03.18 08:56:00 -
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evedawn wrote:I think this is a serious flaw with the game!!! 0/10
Quote:If I choose to, I should be able to play this game safely No, you should not. Or, wellGǪ yes you should, and you are. You have all the tools at your disposal, but in the end, you are the one who has to make that happen GÇö not the game. This whole GÇ£sandboxGÇ¥ thing does not mean that you can do what you want GÇö it means everyone can do what they want, which will include stuff you don't want them to do (to you). It is up to you to ensure that they can't do those things.
Quote:Is that true? Is High Sec a mith? No. Partly because there is no such thing, and partly because you're confusing the relative word GÇ£highGÇ¥ with the absolute word GÇ£totalGÇ¥. Security in highsec is high. It is not complete. You have to tend to your own safety relative to the insecurity left by it merely being at a GÇ£highGÇ¥ level.
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
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Posted - 2013.03.18 09:01:00 -
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Don't
fly
expensive
ships
in
Osmon!
Also, if you flt ships like that, why did you not use an insta undocking and docking spot? My Tengu is worth under 1 Bil and i still use it.
If you see so many Tornados with sebos at the undock, press ctrl + space, wait a few seconds and dock again.
Don't be stupid.
German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
Schmata Bastanold
Silver Octopus
Infernal Octopus
675
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Posted - 2013.03.18 09:01:00 -
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evedawn wrote:Secondly because its never happened to me before & I've never heard it could happen!
Oh boy, one has to be totally oblivious to not hear about shiny ships getting ganked in hisec on daily basis. I mean amount of tears and whine is so huge that really... seriously...
I am not my skills but...
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Diesel47
Bad Men Ltd.
542
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Posted - 2013.03.18 09:10:00 -
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Be happy the gankers didn't get the expensive shield booster they were after.
But for next time: Don't pimp your ship too much so you become a target.
You don't want to make it profitable for people to gank you, and it won't happen. |
John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
99
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Posted - 2013.03.18 09:11:00 -
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evedawn wrote: A Very Dissatisfied player!!!
Yesterday I got Insta popped in a Golem undocking from Osmon Station.
What is the point of wardec's or faction warfare if you can get a team of 5 guys in high Sec with heavy fitted Teir 3 BC's & insta pop a 3 bil isk ship who has no connection with these idiots???
I think this is a serious flaw with the game!!!
I have worked hard & long hours to earn this ship for a easy kill from someone I didnt even know existed & thought just because they could pop me for being in the same place they were in, a supposidly "High Security" area.......... JOKE Joke!
CCP a very serious question if you wont honest missionaries to wont to play this game?
If I choose to, I should be able to play this game safely if that is the way you supposedly are saying I am able to do?????
Is that true???? Is High Sec a mith???
Plus +ºa change, plus c'est la m+¬me chose |
Pantiy
Corporate Scum
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.18 09:31:00 -
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I must say these are dam tasty tears, this is eve a cold harsh universe. This isn't wow or kitty island. Try those if you want consensual pop. In eve sometimes you have no choice.
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Roime
Shiva Furnace
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Posted - 2013.03.18 09:47:00 -
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evedawn wrote: honest missionaries
I enjoy a honest missionary every now and then, it's very intimate
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |
Primary Me
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.03.18 09:52:00 -
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Roime wrote:evedawn wrote: honest missionaries
I enjoy a honest missionary every now and then, it's very intimate
Although looking at the OPs avatar, maybe not so much.
James 315 for CSM 8. A voice for hi-sec, a voice for reason. |
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
578
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Posted - 2013.03.18 09:57:00 -
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To be fair, I didn't know missionaries played this game.
I thought they were from Age of Empires!
Edit, was a **** golem anyway! |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2013.03.18 09:58:00 -
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As you were flying a pimped out 3 billion ship, the connection with you went straight through their wallet. Seriously, if you want to grind missions in pimp fits, look for lesser know lvl 4 agents in more remote areas of space.
You're just another fish in the big sea. Stuff yourself into a barrel and you will get shot.
After all it's "high" security space and not "total" security. You only get that "total" as a noob in a started system with a GM in a Polaris on kindergarten duty.
Mining Overhaul
Nothing changed since 2008. |
Tiberius StarGazer
StarGazer Heavy Industries And Exploration
308
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Posted - 2013.03.18 10:03:00 -
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I was going to get on this post and provide some constructive feedback, and then my OCD kicked in about the spelling of Myth...
Anyway: one thing you have failed to expand on in your post: Eve is not a safe place.
Empires provide a stable enviroment for people to live and work in, but just like in real life your not immune to being mugged every so often.
Fly a shiny ship, your gong to get blapped eventually, thats just a given, and without that, the great circle of Eve wouldn't exsist.
The game is not broken, particularly as without loss Eve would not work. But also this is what makes Eve so compelling, that ship you lost someone mined the minerals for, someone made the components for it, someone bought and spent months reserching the BPO and manufacturing that ship for you to buy.
If that ship you had was not lost, NONE of those players would have a role in EvE. Potentially dozens of people were involved in the manfacture of that ship for you to go and loose it. Now they have a chance to make another.
Next time you loose a ship, yes its an inconvenience for you, but think of all the people who will now be able to do the things they do because that ship went pop.
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Djana Libra
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.18 10:07:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Moving from Live Events Discussion to General Discussion.
now move it to crime and punishment tyvm
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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
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Posted - 2013.03.18 10:09:00 -
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High-Sec isn't a myth, just many seem to misunderstand what it really is. The OP seems to be one of those.
Whenever you undock a ship, understand there is ALWAYS a possiblity that ship might explode due to interactions with other people. Highsec just LESSENS the chance of that happening, it does not eliminate it.
Don't Vote for Malcanis
New Eden Training Simulation. -áIdea to improve NPE. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle
Tactical Narcotics Team
739
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Posted - 2013.03.18 10:11:00 -
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Welcome to EVE...
I'm not entirely clear on the point of this, but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner.
Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall
I'm half expecting a ban for this post. |
Azhy
Band of Cateteris
Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2013.03.18 10:11:00 -
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Hi sec ganking is a mith.
Potato eating carebears. |
Camper101
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2013.03.18 10:12:00 -
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Confirming that highsec is a "mith".
OP: If you send me 1.5b ISK i can transfer you my Golem as a compensation. How someone could gank you in such a horrible way is beyond me. It is currently located in The Forge Highsec and worth around 2b, but I don't use it anymore.
Will create contract as soon as I receive ISK.
2013.03.01 13:30:58 notify For participating in the General Discussion Forum Section your trustworthiness has been adjusted by -2.5000.
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Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
578
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Posted - 2013.03.18 10:19:00 -
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As a legit 3rd party, I can guarantee that Camper101 is completely serious, and willing to trade the golem over to you as soon as he recieves the isk.
If you do not trust camper. Please contact me about my 3rd party services.
-Buhhd |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
70
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Posted - 2013.03.18 10:20:00 -
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evedawn wrote:
Yesterday I got Insta popped in a Golem undocking from Osmon Station.
That part made me smile a little, it means we high sec dwellers are not lost, yet. :)
There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |
Runeme Shilter
New Order Logistics
CODE.
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Posted - 2013.03.18 10:21:00 -
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Tiberius StarGazer wrote:I was going to get on this post and provide some constructive feedback, and then my OCD kicked in about the spelling of Myth...
[...]just like in real life your not immune to being mugged every so often.[....]
[...]your gong to get blapped eventually[...]
Seriously?
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Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
14541
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Posted - 2013.03.18 10:23:00 -
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I smell a rat. No Golem KM, but did find this one that is nearly 3 years old.
Malcanis for CSM 8.
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Tiberius StarGazer
StarGazer Heavy Industries And Exploration
308
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Posted - 2013.03.18 10:25:00 -
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Runeme Shilter wrote:Tiberius StarGazer wrote:I was going to get on this post and provide some constructive feedback, and then my OCD kicked in about the spelling of Myth...
[...]just like in real life your not immune to being mugged every so often.[....]
[...]your gong to get blapped eventually[...]
Seriously?
God dammit, yeah I noticed that when re-reading after posting.... |
Cebraio
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
274
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Posted - 2013.03.18 10:27:00 -
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It's called hi-sec (high-security space), not complete-security space. If hi-sec was as safe as you thought it was, this would be a very boring game.
You have played EVE long enough to acquire a Golem and a 1.5B shield booster. You have played since 2008 (??) and you still didn't know how hi-sec works? It's a shame you didn't learn the hard way earlier.
Now that you are one experience richer, you may as well move into 0.0 or a wormhole and make money faster. |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1218
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Posted - 2013.03.18 10:29:00 -
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Mag's wrote:I smell a rat. No Golem KM, but did find this one that is nearly 3 years old.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16832717
Was posted earlier
Don't Vote for Malcanis
New Eden Training Simulation. -áIdea to improve NPE. |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
373
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Posted - 2013.03.18 10:31:00 -
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Mag's wrote:I smell a rat. No Golem KM, but did find this one that is nearly 3 years old.
I linked the km on page 1. It's on eve-kill.
German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
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