I think this is a serious flaw with the game!!!

If I choose to, I should be able to play this game safely

Is that true? Is High Sec a mith?

Secondly because its never happened to me before & I've never heard it could happen!

A Very Dissatisfied player!!!

Yesterday I got Insta popped in a Golem undocking from Osmon Station.
What is the point of wardec's or faction warfare if you can get a team of 5 guys in high Sec with heavy fitted Teir 3 BC's & insta pop a 3 bil isk ship who has no connection with these idiots???

I think this is a serious flaw with the game!!!

I have worked hard & long hours to earn this ship for a easy kill from someone I didnt even know existed & thought just because they could pop me for being in the same place they were in, a supposidly "High Security" area.......... JOKE Joke!

CCP a very serious question if you wont honest missionaries to wont to play this game?

If I choose to, I should be able to play this game safely if that is the way you supposedly are saying I am able to do?????

Is that true???? Is High Sec a mith???

honest missionaries

I enjoy a honest missionary every now and then, it's very intimate

Moving from Live Events Discussion to General Discussion.

Yesterday I got Insta popped in a Golem undocking from Osmon Station.

I was going to get on this post and provide some constructive feedback, and then my OCD kicked in about the spelling of Myth...

[...]just like in real life your not immune to being mugged every so often.[....]
[...]your gong to get blapped eventually[...]

Seriously?

I smell a rat. No Golem KM, but did find this one that is nearly 3 years old.

I smell a rat. No Golem KM, but did find this one that is nearly 3 years old.

I smell a rat. No Golem KM, but did find this one that is nearly 3 years old.

That's probably the "pirate" she encountered in a mission, before. Stealing her loot and successfully getting aggro.

The KM has been found and posted: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=16832717
Although, not API verified, it looks legit.

Ok for a serious answer, hisec is a training ground for new players.

Ok for a serious answer, hisec is a training ground for new players. New players don't fly Golems, and you were punished for driving a Ferrari waterjet in the local kiddie pool.

Secondly because its never happened to me before & I've never heard it could happen!
[...]
Still think High Sec is a mith & the game is unbalanced towards or for the aggressor with skills. In other words bully training in motion...

That's probably the "pirate" she encountered in a mission before. Stealing her loot and successfully getting aggro.

The KM has been found and posted: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=16832717
Although, not API verified, it looks legit.

- Make a insta undock bookmark. The further away, the faster you align to it, so make it larger then 500-1000KM

What?

Firstly what is the right section then?

Secondly because its never happened to me before & I've never heard it could happen!

The only thing that happened before was I got a pirate in a mission & laughed at him because he got shot from the mission pirates...

I never got a suspect flag & did not see any of them get blown up afterwards. I am still waiting to see battlelinic's report on the event.

Still think High Sec is a mith & the game is unbalanced towards or for the aggressor with skills. In other words bully training in motion...

Checked killmail and it`s a really nice shield booster. Gank magnet actually.. And why the hell are you using cruise missiles on a torp boat?? Torps and target painters go well together

Yesterday I got Insta popped in a Golem undocking from Osmon Station.

and the nullbears keep whining about hi-sec being to safe...

What?

If I understand it right, the closer you are to the undock with your warp, the greater the angle you have to align yourself from the deviated angle to the straight instant warp angle..

Has something to do with the angle you undock at and some triangle geometry.

If I understand it right, the closer you are to the undock with your warp, the greater the angle you have to align yourself from the deviated angle to the straight instant warp angle.

So with a far enough away bookmark, even a freighter will warp instantly, even with maximum ejection velocity and maximum undock deviation angle.

Of course this will also depend on the accuracy of your bookmark. Flying straight isn't always as easy as it looks.

...and THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is why carebearing is bad.

That makes zero sense because range as such has nothing to do with it, only angle. So if someone undocks at a certain angle and then burns away without correcting his path and makes a BM at 170 and 500km you'll get the same behaviour when you undock and use either of those BM's. One could argue that it would be easier to correct your BM direction when you're further away but that's not really true, it's about doing it right and not about how far it is from station.

There's of course a good reason to make a BM some 500-1000km away from station but it has nothing to do with your angle and everything to do with wanting to be off grid. For more info on undock bookmarks and other undocking tricks check my guides, link is in my sig.

But so long as PVE missions are what they are, people will continue to fly ships which can be instapopped by a small group of nados.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16832717

Was posted earlier

In some ways its down to user common sense, with over pimping ships and not being aware of your surroundings.

In other cases it's down to the horrible difference between PVP and PVE fits where in a PVE ship has to out of necessity sacrifice most of its EHP in order to achieve a worthwhile active tank. A PVP ship shields has to last maybe 30 seconds to a minute in a brawl and takes maybe 70k EHP damage. A PVE ship may absorb 10x that much damage over the course of a mission, or more but only have 20k EHP at any given time.

But so long as PVE missions are what they are, people will continue to fly ships which can be instapopped by a small group of nados.

Judging by the damage taken on the killmail, he didn't have his tank modules turned on.

However your EHP figures are off. A nekkid Golem would have 40k EHP. 60k EHP with the DC II. 80k with his hardeners on.

Judging by the damage taken on the killmail, he didn't have his tank modules turned on.

Firstly what is the right section then?

Secondly because its never happened to me before & I've never heard it could happen!

The only thing that happened before was I got a pirate in a mission & laughed at him because he got shot from the mission pirates...

I never got a suspect flag & did not see any of them get blown up afterwards. I am still waiting to see battlelinic's report on the event.

Still think High Sec is a mith & the game is unbalanced towards or for the aggressor with skills. In other words bully training in motion...

That was the bit I mentioned about not being familiar with how things work. My point was more towards the preferred ganked mission ships which are the T3s.

Afaik, killmails display HP, not EHP, so the only difference you'd ever see as far as tanking goes is if it has received a lot of local or remote repping before it pops.

Also that the loot fairy said no.

I take it we have adressed that the OPs ship was profitable to gank right?

Also that the loot fairy said no.

0/10

No, you should not. Or, wellGǪ yes you should, and you are. You have all the tools at your disposal, but in the end, you are the one who has to make that happen GÇö not the game. This whole GÇ£sandboxGÇ¥ thing does not mean that you can do what you want GÇö it means everyone can do what they want, which will include stuff you don't want them to do (to you). It is up to you to ensure that they can't do those things.

No. Partly because there is no such thing, and partly because you're confusing the relative word GÇ£highGÇ¥ with the absolute word GÇ£totalGÇ¥. Security in highsec is high. It is not complete. You have to tend to your own safety relative to the insecurity left by it merely being at a GÇ£highGÇ¥ level.

Take away the profit and you remove 90% of the problem.

Definition of MITH

chiefly Scottish variant of might

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mith

Boo hoo ?

"It"'s not a problem.

I understand where the op is coming from. I dont feel hi-sec should be completely safe and people should still have the ability to gank somone out of revenge or spite, but I dont feel it should be profitable.

People shouldnt be afraid to undock thier big shiny ships to play the game.

Take away the profit and you remove 90% of the problem.

Secondly because its never happened to me before & I've never heard it could happen!

Still think High Sec is a mith & the game is unbalanced towards or for the aggressor with skills. In other words bully training in motion...

I understand where the op is coming from. I dont feel hi-sec should be completely safe and people should still have the ability to gank somone out of revenge or spite, but I dont feel it should be profitable.

I say if you want to gank people thats fine but it should cost you and anyone involved. This seemed to worked well for the miners. Macks seem still be on the profit list but rifter ganks have fallen off substantially. WHY? No profit in it.


People shouldnt be afraid to undock thier big shiny ships to play the game. Something needs to be in place to remove the profit margin for using high dps ships with no effort put in to them to kill ships people have worked hard to obtain.

Take away the profit and you remove 90% of the problem.

I understand where the op is coming from. I dont feel hi-sec should be completely safe and people should still have the ability to gank somone out of revenge or spite, but I dont feel it should be profitable.

I say if you want to gank people thats fine but it should cost you and anyone involved. This seemed to worked well for the miners. Macks seem still be on the profit list but rifter ganks have fallen off substantially. WHY? No profit in it.


People shouldnt be afraid to undock thier big shiny ships to play the game. Something needs to be in place to remove the profit margin for using high dps ships with no effort put in to them to kill ships people have worked hard to obtain.

Take away the profit and you remove 90% of the problem.

I understand where the op is coming from. I dont feel hi-sec should be completely safe and people should still have the ability to gank somone out of revenge or spite, but I dont feel it should be profitable.

Seem to be a problem for the subscribing OP as well as others like him/her

If I choose to, I should be able to play this game safely if that is the way you supposedly are saying I am able to do?????

...lots of good points...

Highsec is technically safer now than it has been at any time in the past, and some people are still asking for it to be safer still, they are the people that would kill Eve, given half a chance, and turn it into a vague copy of what it once was.

A Very Dissatisfied player!!!

Yesterday I got Insta popped in a Golem undocking from Osmon Station.

What is the point of wardec's or faction warfare if you can get a team of 5 guys in high Sec with heavy fitted Teir 3 BC's & insta pop a 3 bil isk ship who has no connection with these idiots???

I think this is a serious flaw with the game!!!

I have worked hard & long hours to earn this ship for a easy kill from someone I didnt even know existed & thought just because they could pop me for being in the same place they were in, a supposidly "High Security" area.......... JOKE Joke!

CCP a very serious question if you wont honest missionaries to wont to play this game?

If I choose to, I should be able to play this game safely if that is the way you supposedly are saying I am able to do?????

Is that true???? Is High Sec a mith???

As a neutral third party that has been observing this thread i wish the TO my best of luck. These people safed your soul!

As a matter of fact, YOU were going to fight in a mission. Possibly dozens of Battleships on the other side. And YOU were going to kill every single crewmen by blowing up every single ship. This is a horrible death indeed. What my friends did was in a way, stop a serial killer (aka YOU) from killing more people. WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS!

1 dead ship vs. thousands of crewmen...

A good choice!

Why not? If someone presents a crapton of valuable loot in a easy-to-shoot ship, it sure as hell should be profitable to go after him.

They don't have to be. They just have to be smart about it and adjust their flying to fit what they choose to undock in.

It's not a problem to begin with, so there's nothing to remove.

Then the problem is they subscribed to the wrong game; maybe they should have done just a little bit of research into the game before buying it.

If the OP had taken just a few precautionary measures they never would have been ganked to begin with. Hopefully they will take this opportunity to learn from their mistakes, and not expect to be coddled in the future.

So you dont understand the difference between carrying around a bunch of loot or fitting your ship?

Smart has nothing to do with it. This person could be running a mission and get ganked.

Again it is a problem for the people getting ganked.

They worked hard to make thier big nice shiny ships and they shouldnt be vunerable to a few low cost high dps fit ships.

A Very Dissatisfied player!!!

Yesterday I got Insta popped in a Golem undocking from Osmon Station.
What is the point of wardec's or faction warfare if you can get a team of 5 guys in high Sec with heavy fitted Teir 3 BC's & insta pop a 3 bil isk ship who has no connection with these idiots???

I think this is a serious flaw with the game!!!

I have worked hard & long hours to earn this ship for a easy kill from someone I didnt even know existed & thought just because they could pop me for being in the same place they were in, a supposidly "High Security" area.......... JOKE Joke!

CCP a very serious question if you wont honest missionaries to wont to play this game?

If I choose to, I should be able to play this game safely if that is the way you supposedly are saying I am able to do?????

Is that true???? Is High Sec a mith???

A Very Dissatisfied player!!!

Yesterday I got Insta popped in a Golem undocking from Osmon Station.
What is the point of wardec's or faction warfare if you can get a team of 5 guys in high Sec with heavy fitted Teir 3 BC's & insta pop a 3 bil isk ship who has no connection with these idiots???

I think this is a serious flaw with the game!!!

I have worked hard & long hours to earn this ship for a easy kill from someone I didnt even know existed & thought just because they could pop me for being in the same place they were in, a supposidly "High Security" area.......... JOKE Joke!

CCP a very serious question if you wont honest missionaries to wont to play this game?

If I choose to, I should be able to play this game safely if that is the way you supposedly are saying I am able to do?????

Is that true???? Is High Sec a mith???

So you dont understand the difference between carrying around a bunch of loot or fitting your ship?

Smart has nothing to do with it. This person could be running a mission and get ganked.

Again it is a problem for the people getting ganked. They worked hard to make thier big nice shiny ships and they shouldnt be vunerable to a few low cost high dps fit ships.

You guys scream risk vs reward non stop on these forum. This should be no different. Gankers should not be able to use little effort and destroy high value targets.

If it's so important to them, they should take some simple common-sense steps to protect it.

How dare you suggest Effort!? Don't you know how many missions and incursions those people had to run to get all that bling, they should have a right to be immune to all but similarly blingy ships!

Just like in real life. I mean it's not as if you can shoot down a billion dollar jet fighter with a 100 dollar hand held missile. That would be wrong and would mean life and reality are unbalanced.

Guess I am thinking too much in triangles and not enough in vectors. I was always bad with vectors.

Posting in stealth nerf-hisec thread. False-flag carebear alt of a nullbear is obvious.

Thats your opinion and your entitled to it no matter how wrong. People need a sence of balance in any game. This is not balanced at this point. People can fit high dps low cost fits and make a profit.

Let em make thier profit in low/null. Oh wait they cant because people are fit and ready for pvp thier most times. They may get thier arse handed to them.

What?

So you dont understand the difference between carrying around a bunch of loot or fitting your ship?

Smart has nothing to do with it. This person could be running a mission and get ganked.

Again it is a problem for the people getting ganked.

They worked hard to make thier big nice shiny ships and they shouldnt be vunerable to a few low cost high dps fit ships.

People need a sence of balance in any game.

Uh... if they're *smart*, it is very unlikely that will get ganked.

"Smart" could be accomplished any number of ways in this scenario.

-Don't needlessly bling your mission ship. This will make you an unattractive target and, thus, unlikely to be ganked.

-If you do needlessly bling your mission ship, use instant-undocks when leaving the station and keep an eye on your D-scan for combat probes/nearby ships while you're in your missions.

This will not give you perfect safety, but you're not supposed to have perfect safety. It will keep you generally safe, however. Avoid stargates and you will be EXTREMELY safe, even in a blinged ship.




Otherwise known as a "personal problem". It's not a problem for the GAME that they got ganked. It's a problem for them, and only for them.



If it's so important to them, they should take some simple common-sense steps to protect it.

I propose removing CONCORD protection for people who can't spell "myth" correctly or know the difference between "sense" and "sence" (hint: one of them isn't even a real word).

Not a personal problem when they pay thier monthly fee just like you and I do.

Tippia,


Smart has zero to do with it. People who are brilliant at this game can and do fall victim to this game flaw.

Not a personal problem when they pay thier monthly fee just like you and I do.

Doubt it is working as intended or they would not have the Mining barge changes.

Smart has zero to do with it. People who are brilliant at this game can and do fall victim to this game flaw.

Not a personal problem when they pay thier monthly fee just like you and I do.

Doubt it is working as intended or they would not have the Mining barge changes. Try again

Mining barges had a harder time fitting a decent tank compared to mission ships.

That's all it does. Entrance to the game does not guarantee that every game experience will conform to your personal ideal notion of what it should be.
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More importantly, exhumers are still routinely ganked.

except, it's at an all time low....

Ganking is low ISK loss, high reward, high lulz and it requires nothing more then a ship scanner and the ability to press F1 in sync with the others in your gang of 3-5.

Only difference is the payout is better per unit of time.

A Very Dissatisfied player!!!

Yesterday I got Insta popped in a Golem undocking from Osmon Station.
What is the point of wardec's or faction warfare if you can get a team of 5 guys in high Sec with heavy fitted Teir 3 BC's & insta pop a 3 bil isk ship who has no connection with these idiots???

I think this is a serious flaw with the game!!!

I have worked hard & long hours to earn this ship for a easy kill from someone I didnt even know existed & thought just because they could pop me for being in the same place they were in, a supposidly "High Security" area.......... JOKE Joke!

CCP a very serious question if you wont honest missionaries to wont to play this game?

If I choose to, I should be able to play this game safely if that is the way you supposedly are saying I am able to do?????

Is that true???? Is High Sec a mith???

News flash, not that it matters.




Ganking is low ISK loss, high reward, high lulz and it requires nothing more then a ship scanner and the ability to press F1 in sync with the others in your gang of 3-5. It is not a profession requiring anymore skill and experience then a group of carebears blazing through an incursion. Only difference is the payout is better per unit of time.

Mining barges had a harder time fitting a decent tank compared to mission ships.

GǪif you choose to spend a lot of time on it, making it a low-reward activity.

If you do it quickly, it's high-loss/middling-reward instead.

SoooGǪ nerf incursions?

Doubt it is working as intended or they would not have the Mining barge changes. Try again

You forgot the most important thing, the stupidity of the target.

Secondly because its never happened to me before & I've never heard it could happen!

It does not matter how much time you spend on it

As for nerf incursions... doesn't matter.

You either don't have a great deal of experience ganking, or your are trying to cleverly mask the specifics of the profession.

Loading a freighter to near full and undocking is not stupidity.
Fitting your ship with expensive mods (the correct way) is not stupidity.



No ship has a legitimate defense to ganking. Even a fleet of guardians could not save you from the Alpha strike of a small gang of cheap ships. Being ganked does not require stupidity. It is among the easiest and most lucrative professions in EVE atm.

Or dont and suffer the conciquences of your stupidity.

Putting 1 billion into the hold of a freighter means there is no profit in ganking you.

That is not stupidity

I know that it's so massively easy and profitable that it's an exceedingly rare occurrence, now more than everGǪ

GǪwhich rather suggest that it's actually rather dull and unprofitable, which comes as no surprise given all the pieces that have to fall into place for a gank to work and be worth it; given how easy they are to avoid and protect against; and given how easily the costs can run away from you if the target decides to make it so.

Does it seem likely to anyone else that the OP bought his character? As several people have pointed out, the odds of a 4-5 year vet not knowing about high-sec ganking and yet still working up to owning a Golem worth 3b are very slim. I sometimes wonder if the the character bizarre isn't hurting more than it helps.

It is the function of that particular ship to do such a thing. Now, you literally will not survive your trip if you take loads like that between market hubs. Your death is next to certain.

Fitting or carrying high value items makes you a target, don't like it? then don't do it.


And your point is?


The only problem I see is that the OP expected to be immune from the actions of other players in an open ended PvP multiplayer game. BTW 5x fitted tier 3 battle cruisers comes out at the best part of 3/4 billion Isk if not more, so not exactly cheap either.


Coordinating a 5 player gank takes a considerable amount of effort, not a little.

I can pretty much guarantee that the gank operation took a fair amount of prior planning, which involved ship scanning potential targets, making sure that all the required pilots were in the right place, with the right equipment, at the right time to carry the operation off without a hitch, all of which are effort.

Even after all the effort put into the planning and execution the loot fairy can still crap on gankers from a great height, in this case they took the risk and got little or no reward for their efforts, are they whining about risk vs reward? The answer is no, because next time the loot fairy may well smile upon them with lots and lots of shiny stuff.

Alternatively, maybe it's mechanics are not well understood by the masses.

Your conclusion that it is dull and unprofitable is not only a forgone conclusion, it does not fit the facts presented in this thread via killmail.

It is the function of that particular ship to do such a thing. Now, you literally will not survive your trip if you take loads like that between market hubs. Your death is next to certain.



That is not stupidity. That is a game "feature". Make a ship that can hall all that stuff at once to save time and generate wealth, and then if you do do it, you are "stupid".

IOW, not easy. Also, not profitable since that would mean that all the people doing it in the past (who do understand the mechanics) would flock to itGǪ but instead, it's very very rare.

Lolwut?

I move comparable amounts between hubs on a routine basis without ever getting ganked.

How can this be?

That does not mean that it is not easy, it could just as easily mean that people are simply having trouble understanding Concord mechanics.

Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should. Its like transporting 10 billion in gold in the back of a truck with an open sided trailer through the heart of Bagdad with no armed guards.

Its that stupid.

Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should. Its like transporting 10 billion in gold in the back of a truck with an open sided trailer through the heart of Bagdad with no armed guards.

Its that stupid.

Not in a freighter loaded to the brim and starting in Jita I imagine.

No it is more like Arabs scanning your truck to see how much cash you have in your wallet. Ramming you with a bulldozer at a stoplight and mugging you. That is a somewhat more accurate analogy.

No it is more like Arabs scanning your truck to see how much cash you have in your wallet. Ramming you with a bulldozer at a stoplight and mugging you. That is a somewhat more accurate analogy.

GǪwhich means it's not easy.

Because they are going to do that to a waggon full of carrots.

It doesnt matter how you try to word it, stuffing 10 billion into the hold of a rookie ship is a stupid thing to do.

Actually no. Not being sure of how exactly concord works, has nothing to do with how easy/hard the act of ganking and profiting from that ganking is. It is just ballyhoo functioning as a deterrent.

Actually no.

Not being sure of how exactly concord works, has nothing to do with how easy/hard the act of ganking and profiting from that ganking is

No one seems to be talking about 10b in the hold of a rookie ship here, unless I missed something.

No one seems to be talking about 10b in the hold of a rookie ship here, unless I missed something.

No one seems to be talking about 10b in the hold of a rookie ship here, unless I missed something.

Hang on a second... logical disconnect here.
So, you WORKED your way into a Golem (not cheap, not easy skill-wise), but you don't know anything about suicide ganking?!?!
Really?
0/10 for too-obvious of a troll.

No? So it's not a case of GÇ£people are simply having troubleGÇ¥ with the mechanics (i.e. not that easy after all)?
Then why is it so rare?.

Or dont and suffer the conciquences of your stupidity.

It is the function of that particular ship to do such a thing. Now, you literally will not survive your trip if you take loads like that between market hubs. Your death is next to certain.

and the nullbears keep whining about hi-sec being to safe...

You can't read then, I seem to have typed freighter.

You carefully expunged-ácut before a word

I understand where the op is coming from. I dont feel hi-sec should be completely safe and people should still have the ability to gank somone out of revenge or spite, but I dont feel it should be profitable.

I say if you want to gank people thats fine but it should cost you and anyone involved. This seemed to worked well for the miners. Macks seem still be on the profit list but rifter ganks have fallen off substantially. WHY? No profit in it.


People shouldnt be afraid to undock thier big shiny ships to play the game. Something needs to be in place to remove the profit margin for using high dps ships with no effort put in to them to kill ships people have worked hard to obtain.

Take away the profit and you remove 90% of the problem.

Here, let me help.

See, we started here:



This is a kill of a rookie ship with 10 billion in melted nanoribbons in its hold.

To which YOU directly responded:



Implying one or more of the following:

1. You believe the function of a rookie ship is to transport 10 billion in nanoribbons.
2. You're incapable of discerning a rookie ship from a ship more suited to transporting 10 billion in nanoribbons.
3. You responded with a non sequitur, hoping everyone else would fail to notice that it was a rookie ship.

Actually no. Not being sure of how exactly concord works, has nothing to do with how easy/hard the act of ganking and profiting from that ganking is. It just means the idea of concord is ballyhoo functioning as a deterrent, without actually being one in physicality.

I didn't click on it.

The op is about Golem and I am referring to ships that have a specific function and role in the game. I am not discussing rookie ships.

I didn't click on it. The op is about Golem and I am referring to ships that have a specific function and role in the game. I am not discussing rookie ships.

So you were talking out of your ass when you said that GÇ£It is the function of that particular ship to do such a thingGÇ¥. You had absolutely no idea what you were talking about. Good on you.

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So you were talking out of your ass when you said that GÇ£It is the function of that particular ship to do such a thingGÇ¥. You had absolutely no idea what you were talking about. Good on you.

That's how the pros do it.

Informed replies are for newbs.

I simply ignored the links provided by baltec1. As I just did again.

I was talking about the freighter that I mentioned in previous posts.

So no I am not talking out of my ass, you simply have the selective reading comprehension

Ignore anything that contradicts you, thats the way to go about discussions!

I was talking about the freighter that I mentioned in previous posts. The same type of ship I have been referring to all along. So no I am not talking out of my ass, you simply have the selective reading comprehension of a 16 year old cheerleader researching justin bieber headlines. Good for you.

Wow.

Took a 1/2 hour nap and woke up to 45 updates to this nonsense OP.

Welp, we haven't had a good Threadnaught in awhile.

Some ganks as as easy as ratting in a belt. Nerf ratting?

Well lets talk about freighters then

Afterall, stupidity knows no bounds.

A few more like that and I guess we should expect CCP to get requests about adding a tutorial section on how to make double wrap hauler contracts for anyone buying a freighter or an "are you sure you want to be this silly" button when they undock carrying over X amount in cargo.

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22. Post constructively.

Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.

26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.

Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.

34. Posting of kill reports outside of the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited.

More often than not, posts of this nature are made with inflammatory intent and are designed to promote trolling and flaming. Therefore, the posting of links to kill reports from any third party site, or the direct copy-pasting of kill reports from in game is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online Forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel.