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Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
214
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Posted - 2013.03.18 12:06:00 -
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I have been looking at batreps for fleet engagements and the metrics are all over the place; ISK, ship loss ratios, who got the salvage,post battle forum smack talk, # of pilots who showed up, the list goes on.
For myself, I like to learn something about the game world; even if it costs me a ship, if I learn a new trick or figure something out then I win. !?!? wait a minute, didn't I loose? IDK what is winning in Eve to you? We are made sharp by the whetstone of purity and truth that is the Empire, all due praises to her Majesty Lord of the host. The alternative to reclamation is to fall as wheat before the scythe. Amarr Victor!
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Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
819
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Posted - 2013.03.18 12:08:00 -
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Winning is when you find something that makes you want to log in and have fun. |
Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
778
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Posted - 2013.03.18 12:10:00 -
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That's a difficult one. To me it's when I finally stop playing for good, then I've won.
Perhaps a less :bittervet: answer would be "when you're comfortable with what you're doing, enjoy it and stop bothering about silly numerical goals like isk or SP and start pursuing more personal goals, knowing you'll succeed". Amat victoria curam. Excellence in everything.
Some guides that may be useful to you: http://www.youtube.com/user/OrdoArdish |
Djana Libra
The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
87
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Posted - 2013.03.18 12:12:00 -
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everytime i see a ship blow up I win. I keep playing over and over again tho. |
Whitehound
1246
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Posted - 2013.03.18 12:20:00 -
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When one make no differences between game world and reality.
And, yes, this can go horribly wrong so do not do this at home. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Rian Kurr
Hedion University Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.03.18 12:23:00 -
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Looked at putting together another ship together........ looked outside and saw the sun .....logged off and took the kids to the sand box in the park....I win... lol |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1190
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Posted - 2013.03.18 13:37:00 -
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Rian Kurr wrote:Looked at putting together another ship together........ looked outside and saw the sun .....logged off and took the kids to the sand box in the park....I win... lol
You sir won something far more important than eve.
For me winning at eve is about the little goals. Go out on a roam, come back without losing my pod - win! Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. Twitter --á@DeVeldrin |
Pantiy
Corporate Scum Test Friends Please Ignore
38
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Posted - 2013.03.18 14:13:00 -
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if your asking if the land of RP which is known as provi or better know as CVA has won EvE? lets stick to one battle at a time. from what i hear you have a good one coming very soon. ~|~(~-á (~~|~-á-á -á |-á-á (__)-á-á-á |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13275
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Posted - 2013.03.18 14:17:00 -
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Are you still playing? Then you have not won yet. Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
1430
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Posted - 2013.03.18 14:17:00 -
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there is no winning in EvE. you can only lose.
THE GAME |
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1477
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Posted - 2013.03.18 14:17:00 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:Winning is when you find something that makes you want to log in and have fun.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
6535
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Posted - 2013.03.18 14:29:00 -
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Winning Eve is when you no longer log in to play, and can still dictate what large numbers of Eve players do.
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and every machiavellian space bastard in it. |
Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
214
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Posted - 2013.03.18 14:29:00 -
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Pantiy wrote:if your asking if the land of RP which is known as provi or better know as CVA has won EvE? lets stick to one battle at a time. from what i hear you have a good one coming very soon.
Most of Prov-bloc is not RP. I am, just because I like to spout strange religious dogma in local. But for most pilots it is a much smaller part of their profile. (Well admitted profile, I think all Eve characters are quite different from the people that play them.)
As for battles; I was reading over the results of G-5EN2, and tbh I'm not sure who won?! The talk on our forums is mostly about what we could do better next time. I couldnt make that fleet and so its actually been kind of tough figuring out how it went.
We are made sharp by the whetstone of purity and truth that is the Empire, all due praises to her Majesty Lord of the host. The alternative to reclamation is to fall as wheat before the scythe. Amarr Victor!
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Naes Mlahrend
KINGS OF EDEN Sev3rance
79
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Posted - 2013.03.18 14:50:00 -
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I win every time I make a sale on the market. Every time I make it through low sec camps without getting blown up. Every time I escort my alt through null with no problems. Every time I 100% a scanning location. Every time I make a discovery of sorts about how I should play better. etc
Just the little things that make me happy when I play EVE are wins in my book. |
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
612
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Posted - 2013.03.18 14:53:00 -
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Well first an alien comes, and once you kill it,
"GAME OVER" appears on your screen.
Then you can't play before that unless you saved it before the alien, so u have to just post on forums.
Only took me 8 years. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
7421
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Posted - 2013.03.18 15:01:00 -
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The day you press the Log off button and you see that awesome Oveur photo - you'll know.
/c
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1026
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Posted - 2013.03.18 15:03:00 -
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You don't 'win' in EVE. You win at plaing EVE.
If you're having a good time, you're winning at playing EVE. If you're not having fun, best you re-assess what yo're doing, and why. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1149
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Posted - 2013.03.18 15:46:00 -
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Winning at EvE? Get some tech moons, print ISK, go into RMT. EvE is like prison.-á It's a place when bad people go to learn how to become even worse people. |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
346
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Posted - 2013.03.18 15:50:00 -
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I win every day... sometimes because I make vast quantities of ISK... and sometimes because I just know when to walk away and say "fakkit, I'll be back later".
Translation for the paduwans... "Do, or do not. The is no try".
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
552
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:15:00 -
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The thing about eve is it's just a treed mill. One day even goonswarm will no longer be there after being replaced by some other yet to be named alliance; death is the only assured inevitability. The only way to win eve is to get off and stop being apart of the cycle. CCP don't make us wait another decade for a drone overhaul; DRONE OVERHAUL NOW! |
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Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
214
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:29:00 -
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wow, 18 responses, and 5 of them have to do with leaving Eve to win. lol, maybe I need to throw my comp away! We are made sharp by the whetstone of purity and truth that is the Empire, all due praises to her Majesty Lord of the host. The alternative to reclamation is to fall as wheat before the scythe. Amarr Victor!
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Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
6550
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:41:00 -
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WOPR wrote:A strange game, the only winning move is not to play
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and every machiavellian space bastard in it. |
Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
214
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:48:00 -
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Don't let the nice spring weather fool you! Eve is the best way to spend your spare time!
=-) All right maybe it isn't. I play too much myself. But its soooo much fun. I can't stop thinking about it. Even when I'm not playing. We are made sharp by the whetstone of purity and truth that is the Empire, all due praises to her Majesty Lord of the host. The alternative to reclamation is to fall as wheat before the scythe. Amarr Victor!
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Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
214
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Posted - 2013.03.18 16:49:00 -
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Do you guys youtube at all? I will make a video of me doing something besides Eve if you will! I don't think it can be done, and I'm not gonna be the guy who fails first. We are made sharp by the whetstone of purity and truth that is the Empire, all due praises to her Majesty Lord of the host. The alternative to reclamation is to fall as wheat before the scythe. Amarr Victor!
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
503
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Posted - 2013.03.18 17:02:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:wow, 18 responses, and 5 of them have to do with leaving Eve to win. lol, maybe I need to throw my comp away!
As a nearly ten year bittervet, I can tell you that the only way to win is to not play the game.
I've won EVE a number of times, and lost it even more.
I've quit several times when the game got too boring, and I'm considering doing it again.... I've let three of my six accounts go inactive over the past few months, and can't find a reason to resub them. The game has become stale, boring, and full of people that think hate is a sport. I've had some very good times in this game, made some good friends, but most of the smart ones have all left the game, recognizing it for what it is. CCP is interested in taking your money, and doing the least amount of work for it. They haven't done an "Expansion" in years, just updates, trying to fix mechanics that they let go since the game started. CCP has been taken over by the fluff and mirrors crowd, where shiny ships and useless lines in the sky == cutting edge gameplay....
I've for years argued the EVE needs a Dynamic universe, where things are always happening, moving, changing.
The same dumb missions, over and over...No randomization.
Incursions should mean something, and get serious if they aren't fought and killed in a timely manner.
Corps and Alliance: Require an exponentially increasing fee for setting people blue.
0.0, make it dangerous space....Make the rats bigger and badder, camping stations, gates, using bubbles, make them a force to be reckoned with, rather than a simple farming commodity. If they aren't fought, they take over everything, including stations. Increase the value of payouts to matc the new rats.
Random events like Supernovas that actually change the landscape of the game. Blowing up a system, wrecking gates, requiring whoever owns stations in the system to rebuild them. Perhaps have a week of lawlessness in system while Concord reforms a battle group. When the stations blow, debris, cans and ships are blown out into the system, waiting for scanners to find.
This is EVE, it's supposed to be a darker world, but after ten years, it seems to be heading towards fluff and ponies, which really doesn't interest me....
The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today!
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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Tiberius StarGazer
StarGazer Heavy Industries And Exploration
308
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Posted - 2013.03.18 17:06:00 -
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You win by being awsome at whatever it is you choose to do in game.
Quitting is for loosers.
I haven't quite yet, and I'm not awsome at the game yet, so I still aint won. |
Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
484
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Posted - 2013.03.18 20:41:00 -
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The door opens? The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures. |
Georgina Parmala
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.03.18 21:07:00 -
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I look back at what I did that day as I log off and it puts a smile on my face. That's always been my unit of measure in every game.
But there's always tomorrow. When the smiles get too rare you're just signing up for abuse. Time to move on. The odd thing with Eve, is the gut crushing feeling when you welp something big. Somehow it feels bad, but not in a negative depressing kind of way. You learn from it and move on. Logging in for several hours, day after day, just to end up ship spinning. Now that gets depressing. |
Sentamon
770
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Posted - 2013.03.18 21:13:00 -
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Winning EVE is simple.
First you become friends with practically everyone. Then you "conquer" the universe unopposed. Finally you complain about SOV and everything about highsec. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
195
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Posted - 2013.03.18 21:37:00 -
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You can win a fight, you can win a war. You can win a few Isk, you can win a fortune. You can win a system, you can win a region.
You can win New Eden.
You can however not win EvE.
But somewhere in there, among the myriad ways to act in EvE, is always something that makes you smile. The one thing that makes you want to play again. Finding that is winning in and of itself.
Go on, find it. And smile. ISD Ezwal Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Beckie DeLey
Living From Scraps
363
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Posted - 2013.03.18 21:38:00 -
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Killboard green, Op success? So... i started an industry blog at www.derbk.com/eve There i am preparing a guide to all things related to manufacturing. Check it out!
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Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
533
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Posted - 2013.03.18 22:31:00 -
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The way to win in EVE is to set a very long term goal for yourself and try to accomplish it. If you do, then you've won.
The thing that makes EVE different from other MMOs is that there is no true late game or even mid game. Once you figure out what sort of ships you want to fly and how to make ISK then everything is open from there. There are so many different ways to play the game. I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
349
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Posted - 2013.03.18 23:20:00 -
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Beckie DeLey wrote:Killboard green, Op success?
That would mean something if it could not be completely faked. |
Zaraz Zaraz
Imperial Planetology Academy
85
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Posted - 2013.03.18 23:25:00 -
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When you find that you've made a significant enough investment that you can retire from the game, paying with PLEX paid for by your investment and then spend your retirement poking fun at the game on the forums. Thats when I 'won'.
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Alex Grison
Grison Interstellar
214
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Posted - 2013.03.18 23:37:00 -
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I beat eve a long time ago.
You won't see it coming |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
5789
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Posted - 2013.03.19 02:49:00 -
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Naes Mlahrend wrote:I win every time I make a sale on the market. Every time I make it through low sec camps without getting blown up. Every time I escort my alt through null with no problems. Every time I 100% a scanning location. Every time I make a discovery of sorts about how I should play better. etc
Just the little things that make me happy when I play EVE are wins in my book. This. |
Sharon Anne
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.03.19 05:44:00 -
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Winners do it differently than losers. |
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
182
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Posted - 2013.03.19 10:03:00 -
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EvE is about winning, but EvE cannot be won. Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Disastro
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
64
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Posted - 2013.03.19 11:46:00 -
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Corey Fumimasa wrote:I have been looking at batreps for fleet engagements and the metrics are all over the place; ISK, ship loss ratios, who got the salvage,post battle forum smack talk, # of pilots who showed up, the list goes on.
For myself, I like to learn something about the game world; even if it costs me a ship, if I learn a new trick or figure something out then I win. !?!? wait a minute, didn't I loose? IDK what is winning in Eve to you?
If you are looking at the related kills type battle reports from eve kill they are virtually always a confused mass of data. For whatever reason it always seems to put half of the folks on the wrong side of the battle before calculating isk and ships lost. There are some other sites folks are using now which allow you to take the data from that kill mail and manually move folks over to the side they belong on and then calculate isk and ships lost.
As for determining who won or who lost it is sometimes difficult. One side may get more kills in numbers and the other side might get more isk destroyed. That happens quite a lot. Generally I think most folks would go with the who destroyed more isk number but i guess it kind of depends on the difference. If its not a substantial difference then the numbers would look more impressive. In the end the kill board wont show the underlying reason for the fight. One side might be defending a pos, station or sovereignty. That wont show on the kill report. The defender may claim victory by winning that goal even though they lost more isk and ships. Often, however, the other side only challenged that sov, pos or station in order to provoke some carebear alliance into fighting. Determining a winner isnt always an easy proposition. |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
444
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Posted - 2013.03.19 11:49:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:
You can however not win EvE.
Actually you can.
If you have fun you've won. ;) CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil.
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Nerf Burger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
111
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Posted - 2013.03.19 14:45:00 -
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The less you play, the more you win at EVE. The more you play EVE, the more you fail at life. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
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Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
219
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Posted - 2013.03.19 14:57:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:The less you play, the more you win at EVE. The more you play EVE, the more you fail at life. Many people want to say these games are "addictive" and a social problem. It is interesting that so many players want to throw blame that way.
For myself, I often spend too much time screwing around, whether its Eve, or youtube, or pen and paper gaming, or brewing / drinking beer, or sailing, or riding my 4 wheeler, or going for rwalks, or cooking...the list goes on and on.
Had I knuckled down and worked hard at money making I would be quite wealthy. As it is, we make our bills and I have some money in the bank, and I have a great family and plenty of time to screw around =-)
Honestly we will all be 6 feet under before you know it =-) and I know so many people with real problems that we in Eve don't have to face so much; loneliness, cancer, legal problems to do with drunk driving, divorce, tax trouble. Spending time at ones computer playing Eve probably lowers ones risk for all of those difficulties.
Maybe it could be said that we have an anti-addiction to responsibility and grown up behavior rather than an addiction to video games. We are made sharp by the whetstone of purity and truth that is the Empire, all due praises to her Majesty Lord of the host. The alternative to reclamation is to fall as wheat before the scythe. Amarr Victor!
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T'Laar Bok
77
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Posted - 2013.03.19 15:04:00 -
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When all the roids are gone. They're evil and breed like rabbits. But I'll show them, I'll show them all! BAWHAHAHahah Amphetimines are your friend.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/T'Laar_Bok |
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
370
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Posted - 2013.03.19 15:12:00 -
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Winning to me in Eve is just being able to log in with the knowledge that I can just relax and enjoy the scenery because my projects are underway and my wallet has enough ISK to allow me to do whatever I want on top of that. |
Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
1523
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Posted - 2013.03.19 15:20:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:I win every day... sometimes because I make vast quantities of ISK... and sometimes because I just know when to walk away and say "fakkit, I'll be back later". Translation for the paduwans... "Do, or do not. The is no try". padawans* There*
you failed. |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
312
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Posted - 2013.03.19 16:10:00 -
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I'd say you win at EvE either by becoming ludicrously wealthy, the top-man of a large Sov-holding Alliance, or by becoming renowned by lots of the community (In a positive way!).
Though EvE, much like life itself, doesn't really have a win point. It's just the fun stuff you get upto between the beginning and the end. Post with your main, like a BOSS! |
Zaraz Zaraz
Imperial Planetology Academy
85
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Posted - 2013.03.19 22:57:00 -
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Nerf Burger wrote:The less you play, the more you win at EVE. The more you play EVE, the more you fail at life.
Eve punishes going afk more than any other MMO I've tried. That in itself makes Eve unfriendly to 'having a life'. In WoW I can just walk away from the computer in the middle of a fight and lose practically nothing. To me thats a game thats pretty friendly to people who have a life.
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Gustoff Jones
Ore Hogz S2N Citizens
0
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Posted - 2013.03.19 23:19:00 -
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this :)
Sentient Blade wrote:Winning is when you find something that makes you want to log in and have fun.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2335
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Posted - 2013.03.20 00:40:00 -
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You can't "win" an open ended game. That's like people who talk about "winning" in life... whatever hippy, get a job. I would say when you've done all you care to do and you've achieved all of your own goals in EvE, you've "won"... at least until someone takes your win away or there's a good update from CCP.
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Ryu Ibarazaki
Brave Newbies Inc.
12
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Posted - 2013.03.20 00:55:00 -
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Winning EVE means you've added it to your resume.
-Example of an 'Other Interests' Resume Section-
I run marathons.
I have a Titan alt.
I know CPR.
I'm a Black Member on Kugu.
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Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
93
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Posted - 2013.03.20 12:00:00 -
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You win by unsubbing from this terrible game |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
149
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Posted - 2013.03.20 12:40:00 -
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It seems that most of the seemingly fundamental questions regarding Eve are the one's without any real strait answers...i.e., best ship for l4's, best fit for , how much is "too-risky" to carry in a freighter, what's the funnest thing to do in Eve, what's the dullest, so on and so on.
Personally, it's looking back at when you first started and realizing that you're glad you stuck with it because it's still a blast, has its "WTF" moments, and still suprises the hell out of you from time to time as well. |
Steve Spooner
Divine Spirit DSM Strategic Operations Brigade
5
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Posted - 2013.03.20 13:17:00 -
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When you're annihilating veldspar with a capital ship of each race. |
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
131
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Posted - 2013.03.20 13:51:00 -
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When you have accomplished your strategic or tactical objective. When you have prevented your opponents from accomplishing theirs. When you have done enough to give yourself another chance later at accomplishing or thwarting. When you come out of a fight still in your ship. When you come out of a fight still in your pod. When you kill a greater proportion of their fleet than they have of yours. When you kill more of their ships than they have of yours. When you more ISK worth of their ships than they killed of yours (including when they lost a few T2 drones and you lost a frigate). When you manage to kill something before going down in an uneven fight. When you manage to get a kill on that guy who shot you when you accidentally found yourself in lowsec on the third day of your trial. When you manage to escape a fight which would have been disadvantageous. When you manage to drive off an enemy by the mere threat of force (see above). When you hold the field at the apparent end of hostilities. When you chose the right time to retreat. When you find that the market orders which have completed during the fight more than cover your losses.
There are almost as many different ways to "win" in EVE as there are ships to "win" in... though my favourite is still: When you bring a Blackbird (not a Falcon) back from more than one op where you took damage and got jams. |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
511
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Posted - 2013.03.20 13:54:00 -
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Quote:How do you know if won in Eve? When the credits start rolling up the screen . |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1497
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Posted - 2013.03.20 14:16:00 -
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I take back what i said.
It's not about enjoying the game. It's about how unreasonably emotional you can make a stupid person be. For example, you win EVE when people mention your name in General discussion posts about topics that have nothing to do with you, like how people are so butt hurt by your actions or awesomeness that that make EVERYTHING about you.
In other words, the only people who have ever won EVE are Mittens and James 315....and null sec lol |
MetaMorpheus Jones
Emerald Inc. Sapphire Federation
76
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Posted - 2013.03.20 15:19:00 -
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The moment you stop giving a rat's ass about what anyone else thinks of you, your character, your game, your methods, or your objectives, i.e. the moment the game becomes your game.
That monocle looks ridiculous.-á |
Demolishar
United Aggression
841
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Posted - 2013.03.20 19:21:00 -
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When you are the richest player in EVE, you hold all nullsec sov personally with a holder alliance of only your alts, and you can multibox a fleet so huge that it can defeat the combined forces of every other player in EVE.
But it's not gonna happen, not for anyone. You don't win at EVE, just some people lose harder than others. The current person who is "losing least" is Somer. If he had 10 times the isk he does, and the inclination, he could make a serious bid at achieving the goal outlined above and winning EVE> |
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