So basically, they can go to Amarr so long as they are "willingly Reclaimed", are they aware that it takes generations to become "Reclaimed" or are they a special case unlike the countless Matri currently enslaved on the Reclamation path?

So basically, they can go to Amarr so long as they are "willingly Reclaimed", are they aware that it takes generations to become "Reclaimed" or are they a special case unlike the countless Matari currently enslaved on the Reclamation path?

I assume that the small print will probably mention something to this effect, essentially enslaving the soldiers. Does this mean Amarr will forego future slave raids into Matari space if the abundance of clone soldiers is enough??

So Amarr is willing to have ranks of faux believers, because that's what will happen...

> "Welcome to Amarr; Do you believe in our god?"
< "Yes I do [crosses fingers]"
> "Here are your papers, now go with the grace of God and do his bidding"
< "Woot, that was easy"

More like:

> "Welcome to Amarr; Do you believe in our god?"
< "Nope, I'm an atheist"
> "Not a problem, just go with this nice man who will look after you"
< "Woot, that was easy"
> "Another slave for the Empire; NEXT"

> "Another slave for the Empire; NEXT"

Between a rock and hard place I'm pretty sure a clone solider would fake his or her belief of a God if it meant he/she was given sanctuary and all the benefits of the empire.

You must see that, surely?

I really do doubt Amarr will turn away the "unwilling", so what happens to those?

Be careful, I smell hypocrisy around the corner.

And there we have the hypocrisy ... It's fine, its the same old argument about what constitutes reclamation, Matari can't be automagically reclaimed because scripture states it, but anyone else can be reclaimed at a drop of a hat even if they don't believe.

Carry on. Lets see how the news story progresses.

Scripture states nothing of the sort regarding the Minmatar.

So there will be a period of time (how many generations?) before they are declared reclaimed, yes? Which is faith based, yes? So, those that still want sanctuary but not the faith will endure what? ... The same fate as the Matari?

Of course you don't see the hypocrisy, the hypocrite never does.

Really? You sure about that? The scriptures may not be explicit in saying "Thou shal't go reclaim the Minmatar", but scripture is used for the reason for enslaving the Matari.

I'm no theologian of course.

I'm no theologian of course.

No, the Scriptures are not the justification for enslavement of the Minmatar. They are the justification for the Reclaiming. Enslavement is a process of the Reclamation chosen and instituted by the Amarr and the Empire, not the Scriptures.
There are passages that could be argued to be in support of slavery, but the actual institution of slavery is not outlined in the Scriptures.

You're no debater either.

The subject is clearly above your reading comprehension level, best run along.

And there we have the hypocrisy ... It's fine, its the same old argument about what constitutes reclamation, Matari can't be automagically reclaimed because scripture states it, but anyone else can be reclaimed at a drop of a hat even if they don't believe.

Carry on. Lets see how the news story progresses.

The Matari that willingly embraced God were not enslaved. That is why the Mandate exists. That the rest of the Matari were enslaved, and for so long, was solely a result of their stubbornness and resistance.

Those clone soldiers who take up Her Imperial Majesty's offer will not be enslaved, but nor will they be made citizens "at the drop of a hat". All who live in the Empire must adhere to the faith, or be in the process of being taught the faith. There are many foreigners in the Empire came here of their own free will, who embraced the faith willingly, and were thus never enslaved. Those clone soldiers who accept the offer will, along with receiving care and support for their conditions, be also receiving spiritual education, and both of these will happen in the sanctuary colonies that Her Imperial Majesty will be establishing.

The Reclaiming includes slavery as one method of conversion, for those that are defiant and unwilling to give themselves to God

Thank you for your wise words and insightful comments on the subject.

No actual comment to make on the topic?

I'm still wary of this being a clever ruse, but I'll keep an eye on this situation as it develops. At least one nation doesn't see genocide as the answer to men and women who have served their nations.

I would imagine that the Amarr Empire would see potential in slaves that can instantly be reborn as soon as they die. For one, you can have them do all kinds of dangerous work. Secondly and probably the most significant, you can have someone in servitude for all of eternity.