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While you know very well that my comment was made in regards to when freighters are cargo scanned, and selectively ganked based on fat cargo;

The one that allows freighters to be easily trained up, and stuffed full of loot. Years and years of freighter ganks support my statement. Surely, if there weren't some mechanic garaunteeing it, it wouldn't happen frequently, for years on end? Often on a multiple-times-per-day-basis.

Maybe I can make money selling stuff to you people.

i think that very few people would want to do it on a everyday basis. You lose sec status, you can not enter hi sec again. These people would get very litte ISK wise.

So you need to start a suicide academy for lulz, and recruit new people everytime, letting people come and go. You need to give out full catalyst/thrasher packages at a price of a two million. (If you don't, markets will crash, ship/fittings will skyrocket)

You need to start a suicide gankers code, so that random new people do not shoot friendly gankers for lulz and ruin that attack run.

If you look at my killboard, you will notice all characters doing those ganks are already -10.0. All we need to do is park the 40-50 catalysts in a 0.4 system bordering a 0.5 and sound the horn when an auto-piloting freighter travels through.

I would probably reward the highest DPS count and whoever gets on the pod killmail as well. This solves the "splitting it equally" issue. We already have some interested heads, but there are plenty more -10.0 characters out there who would jump on the occasion to do this for free.

Still doesnt change the fact that everyone payout will be so small you would be better off just running missions.

Why else do you run missions if not to get bil+ killmails?

Whats the point of being on a bil KM? Bragging right? We all know they can be faked anyway...

That API verfied thing on Eve-kill. What a strange and mysterious tag to be affixed to some killmails. I wonder what it could POSSIBLY mean.

If we WANTED to have fun, we wouldn't be playing Eve.

Hello all,

I am a suicide ganker. Since the last hulkageddon, I have been perfecting the art.

My setup of choice today looks like this:

[Catalyst, Catalyst - T1 Suicide Ganker]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I

Sensor Booster I, Scan Resolution Script or Initiated Harmonic Warp Scrambler I (requires perfect fittings, CPU issue)
Sensor Booster I, Scan Resolution Script

Light Neutron Blaster I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
[empty rig slot]

I prefer this setup due to the cost being roughly 2 mil. When a T2-fit catalyst easily costs 5 times more for not even twice the DPS, this ship becomes a clear winner when you can bring more people.

I have been using this setup for some time now, practicing on mining barges and exhumers:
- Untanked Covetors can die to a single T1 catalyst in a 0.6, might even get the pod if skills are maxed (avg loot 5-15 mil).
- Retrievers with low-to-moderate tank can easily be killed with two T1 catalysts (avg loot 5-10 mil).
- Untanked Hulks can just barely be killed with two T1 catalysts in a 0.6 (avg loot 10-40 mil).
- Link to our killboard, feel free to check the last two months for confirmation of these numbers.

I did some number crunching concerning freighters and jump freighters:

EHPs Against Caldari Navy Antimatter with level 5 skills (no implants):

Providence - 192124
Charon - 181288
Obelisk - 202988
Fenrir - 172790

Ark - 345824
Rhea - 329735
Anshar - 371146
Nomad - 311021

T1 catalyst overheated volley: 830 (418 dps)

(1.0 - 0.9) 3 volleys = 2490
(0.8 - 0.7) 5 volleys = 4150
(0.6 - 0.5) 8 volleys = 6640

Amount of Catalysts needed (3 / 5 / 8 volleys):

Providence - 77 / 46 / 29
Charon - 73 / 43 / 27
Obelisk - 82 / 49 / 31
Fenrir - 69 / 42 / 26

Ark - 139 / 83 / 52
Rhea - 132 / 79 / 50
Anshar - 149 / 89 / 56
Nomad - 125 / 75 / 47

What have we learned:

1) Aim Minmatar, avoid Gallente
2) Taking variables into account, 50 catalysts (~100 mil) to gank a freighter in 0.5
2) Taking variables into account, 75 catalysts (~150 mil) to gank a jump freighter in 0.5

I am already manufacturing 500+ such catalysts per month. EVE mail me in-game if interested and await further instructions. Feel free to help me optimize further or provide me your most delicious tears.

Why else do you run missions if not to get bil+ killmails?

Nobody ganks freighters just for the killmail.

oh really?, have a look at this then...

http://rvbeve.com/red/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=460788

Last nights ganked roam, 73 mainly dessies/frigs killed a JF in hi-sec.

Hi i gank freighters all the time and you dont know **** about **** stop posting.

oh really?, have a look at this then...

http://rvbeve.com/red/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=460788

Last nights ganked roam, 73 mainly dessies/frigs killed a JF in hi-sec.

bump

If we WANTED to have fun, we wouldn't be playing Eve.

has anyone called this guy an idiot yet cause lol

Hi i gank freighters all the time and you dont know **** about **** stop posting.

Ironic,eh?


I like how you shot down his post, which had some degree of research, so eloquently by supplying data of your own. Oh wait.

I like how you shot down his post, which had some degree of flawed research, so eloquently by supplying data of your own. Oh wait.

Assuming a base income rate of 20m/hr for 50 pilots the opportunity cost of waiting a mere 15 minutes is 50*20*0.25, or 250 million isk.

The freighter comes out ahead on its hull unless you gank 1 per hour.