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Seraph Castillon
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2013.04.12 14:50:00 -
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When was your last solo kill? Get out of this thread. |
Vizvig
Savage Blizzard
Bright Side of Death
80
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Posted - 2013.04.14 07:17:00 -
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You can try to fight 1 vs 1 in 0.0.
Or you can bite gang.
But mostly solo is dead. |
Garresh
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
98
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Posted - 2013.04.14 18:49:00 -
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Solo is still alive. The only issue with it is time investment. You spend a lot of time hunting and very little time fighting. its why I don't have the patience to do solo PvP for more than a month at a time. I always get fed up with it because I'm impatient. Getting past that you will get fights and you can have a decent PvP record as a soloist.
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
736
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:19:00 -
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People who think solo is dead simply do not know how to get it.
Its right there if you have the balls to grasp it.
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
Amarrian Commandos
851
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:16:00 -
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But i undocked in a system miles from anywhere and waited 30 seconds, solo pvp did not appear, therefore its dead. dave.
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Zappity
Kurved Space
24
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:54:00 -
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Honestly, it isn't rocket science.
1. Get in your favourite T1 frigate.
2. Warp to a safe in a FW region system.
3. Scan system and plexes with d-scan.
4. If there are suitable targets on scan, warp in and, um, fight.
5. If not, your choice whether to wait or move to another system.
I usually adjust d-scan to 1 AU 360 degrees when a fight is likely. Keep an eye on scan and if a blob is incoming you can try to disengage.
Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
Garresh
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
98
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:59:00 -
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Zappity wrote:Honestly, it isn't rocket science.
1. Get in your favourite T1 frigate.
2. Warp to a safe in a FW region system.
3. Scan system and plexes with d-scan.
4. If there are suitable targets on scan, warp in and, um, fight.
5. If not, your choice whether to wait or move to another system.
I usually adjust d-scan to 1 AU 360 degrees when a fight is likely. Keep an eye on scan and if a blob is incoming you can try to disengage.
In amarr Minnie fw I've literally spent almost 6 hours roaming and gotten no fights before, doing just that. Solo is alive but its damn boring trying to find it a lot of the time.
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Zappity
Kurved Space
24
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Posted - 2013.04.14 21:09:00 -
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What are you flying? Which systems? I usually inhabit the Kamela region and rarely go ten minutes without finding a fight (literally). Are you in a faction or are more 'non-selective' in your attentions?
Check dotlan FW map for Amarr/Minmatar for the most active recent systems. Admittedly you can have the odd dull day. It has happened a few times for me so I log my market alts in and keep the iskies ticking over.
Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
Shao Huang
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2013.04.14 21:33:00 -
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I am trying to begin my EVE career learning to solo, in part based on the theory that this will be a good base for any other ship activities later should I want. Failing hard, but only just started. Plan to give it some months, only doing just enough of whatever else to fund T1 frigs and Dessie's.
I found this thread one of the most useful I have encountered. Thank you.
"Those you see over there, with their long arms. Some of them have arms well nigh two leagues in length."-á"Take care, sir," cried Sancho. "Those over there are not giants but windmills." |
Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society
The Devil's Tattoo
868
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Posted - 2013.04.14 21:35:00 -
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Garresh wrote:Zappity wrote:Honestly, it isn't rocket science.
1. Get in your favourite T1 frigate.
2. Warp to a safe in a FW region system.
3. Scan system and plexes with d-scan.
4. If there are suitable targets on scan, warp in and, um, fight.
5. If not, your choice whether to wait or move to another system.
I usually adjust d-scan to 1 AU 360 degrees when a fight is likely. Keep an eye on scan and if a blob is incoming you can try to disengage. In amarr Minnie fw I've literally spent almost 6 hours roaming and gotten no fights before, doing just that. Solo is alive but its damn boring trying to find it a lot of the time.
I do what Zappity does. Except I dont have any safe spots. I just scan the system when in the gate cloak. If the system is populated I will go in an empty plex and wait or open one myself.
I get allot of fights in lamma kourm huola and kamela. (3-4 fights per 2 hours) I used to get allot of fights up in metro as well but that seems to have dried up a bit.
For solo is the much quicker way to get fights. No waiting on others. Sure you will get more ganks in a gang after its going, But its rare that you will get as many good fights as you can when solo.
The other thing is you will obviously get more fights in fw plexes if you are not blue to a large number of pilots going in these plexes. So i highly recomend dropping militia. After I dropped militia I got a large increase in the number of fights.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
739
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Posted - 2013.04.14 21:36:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Garresh wrote:Zappity wrote:Honestly, it isn't rocket science.
1. Get in your favourite T1 frigate.
2. Warp to a safe in a FW region system.
3. Scan system and plexes with d-scan.
4. If there are suitable targets on scan, warp in and, um, fight.
5. If not, your choice whether to wait or move to another system.
I usually adjust d-scan to 1 AU 360 degrees when a fight is likely. Keep an eye on scan and if a blob is incoming you can try to disengage. In amarr Minnie fw I've literally spent almost 6 hours roaming and gotten no fights before, doing just that. Solo is alive but its damn boring trying to find it a lot of the time. I do what Zappity does. Except I dont have any safe spots. I just scan the system when in the gate cloak. If the system is populated I will go in an empty plex and wait or open one myself. I get allot of fights in lamma kourm huola and kamela. (3-4 fights per 2 hours) I used to get allot of fights up in metro as well but that seems to have dried up a bit. For solo is the much quicker way to get fights. No waiting on others. Sure you will get more ganks in a gang after its going, But its rare that you will get as many good fights as you can when solo. The other thing is you will obviously get more fights in fw plexes if you are not blue to a large number of pilots going in these plexes. So i highly recomend dropping militia. After I dropped militia I got a large increase in the number of fights.
Safespots are largely pointless when you're in a frig.
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Garresh
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
98
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Posted - 2013.04.14 23:06:00 -
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Zappity wrote:What are you flying? Which systems? I usually inhabit the Kamela region and rarely go ten minutes without finding a fight (literally). Are you in a faction or are you more 'liberal' in your attentions?
Check dotlan FW map for Amarr/Minmatar for the most active recent systems. Admittedly you can have the odd dull day. It has happened a few times for me so I log my market alts in and keep the iskies ticking over.
Enlisted Minmatar. And I usually go at the wee early hours of the morning. Those are probably a factor.
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Zappity
Kurved Space
24
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Posted - 2013.04.15 05:58:00 -
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This is a fairly typical EVE day for me just to reply to the '1v1 is dead' thing.
I logged in twice today. First time I logged into a safe about 2200 EVE time in the middle of nowhere in Vard. Local count was low and I warped straight to a Novice plex with a lone Merlin on d-scan. Died in a fire 30 seconds later. Well done RudeX X, your DPS meant I didn't even got close to scram kiting your blasters:
My poor Incursus
And in the interests of full (even if very shameful) disclosure:
My pod
A panicked noob-click minimised my overview while I was trying to warp. But never mind, not too expensive so just inconvenient. I decided I needed a coffee (yeah, that was the reason I lost it) and logged out. Far too early in the morning for that sort of thing without coffee.
The second time was just a few minutes ago. It was eight minutes before I found a fight in Kamela. I tried to land on an Executioner and a Merlin on the way out but both warped away. Evidently just farming which is annoying to say the least. Then I found PitchLag in his Rifter:
VERY close fight (great fun): The Rifter
Not an unusual day by any stretch so no, I don't think 1v1 is dead.
Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
Maksim Cammeren
State Protectorate
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.04.15 13:28:00 -
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To say that solo is dead would be an extreme exaggeration. I don't have too much experience with soloing in cruisers and above, but it is extremely active for frigates and destroyers.
I remember in 2011 I would grab a t1 frigate and set autopilot route through 30 lowsec systems. Sometimes I would go through all 30 and not find a single decent target (defined as another t1 or t2 frig willing to fight solo, or a small t1 frig gang). At that point you could make an argument that solo frig pvp is dead.
Now, with FW, there is an extremely large amount of targets available, as long as you stay in the right systems near the frontline (I also highly recommend avoiding the big FW hubs, where you are likely to get blobbed and people will have links).
As this might be useful to new pilots considering solo, I want to iterate some of the good points people have brought up and maybe raise some new ones:
- You will die, a lot. Try learning from every engagement. There will almost never be a fight where you did everything perfectly, including preparation and managing the engagement itself
- There is no need for links or 1bil implants. I am sure they help, but learning to pilot and not relying on crutches is more valuable. While I have flown a few times with lg crystals, they were not enough to take on significantly larger targets, so they weren't worth it for me, so I stick to cheap ones. I don't mind people with expensive implants: at least they put them to some risk when they bring them. If you think some pilot is using "cheap" tactics (by your definition), add them to watchlist and avoid giving them good fights.
- To counter large enemy numbers: mobility and dps. You can split them in space by mobility or split them in time by killing their friends before the rest of the enemy arrives, both on grid and to their optimals. Assault Frigates and Destroyers excel at that. In general dps > tank for solo, in my opinion.
- Most people will share advice, some will even share fits after a 1v1. Somewhat unsurprisingly, they are much more likely to do either of these if it was a close fight and they won or if you are a new player.
- Not being in FW gives you more targets. Being in FW attracts additional aggro from enemy militias, and allows you to open plexes, so you can bait in them. Baiting in plexes is typically extremely boring, but not so if you need to make a stretching break/make coffee (you still should check d-scan/local every 30-40s). |
Meditril
T.R.I.A.D
255
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Posted - 2013.04.15 15:57:00 -
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Zappity wrote:This is a fairly typical EVE day for me just to reply to the '1v1 is dead' thing. I logged in twice today. First time I logged into a safe about 2200 EVE time in the middle of nowhere in Vard. Local count was low and I warped straight to a Novice plex with a lone Merlin on d-scan. Died in a fire 30 seconds later. Well done RudeX X, your DPS meant I didn't even got close to scram kiting your blasters: My poor IncursusAnd in the interests of full (even if very shameful) disclosure: My podA panicked noob-click minimised my overview while I was trying to warp. But never mind, not too expensive so just inconvenient. I decided I needed a coffee (yeah, that was the reason I lost it) and logged out. Far too early in the morning for that sort of thing without coffee. The second time was just a few minutes ago. It was eight minutes before I found a fight in Kamela. I tried to land on an Executioner and a Merlin on the way out but both warped away. Evidently just farming which is annoying to say the least. Then I found a Rifter: VERY close fight (great fun): The RifterNot an unusual day by any stretch so no, I don't think 1v1 is dead.
Well done Zappity, you are on the right track.
It is not a shame to loose against RudeX X, since he is an old and good player. However, the pod loss was really avoidable. Next time spam the warp button when dieing :-) |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
Home Front Coalition
411
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Posted - 2013.04.15 23:50:00 -
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Solo isn't dead for me. Getting WTFBLOBBED is a part of it. So is having the (in)decency to flat-out murder someone that's AFK or very inexperienced. Your d-scanner is your most valued tool, learn it like the back of your hand and combine it with the Set Onscreen Tracking Position option, to get insta-5-degree scans of celestials in range. Solve the OGB problem by moving systems once you think another pvp-er is 'on your tail' and see who follows. Just accept it's a roll of the dice sometimes, good fights are as rare and epic as on any other scale. A BattleCruiser is a wise choice for solo PVP. Also: have 2 fits, one for PVP and one to move around (warpstabs, inertia stabs). Decide wheter to travel and escape, or to fight back, not both. |
adriaans
Ankaa.
Nair Al-Zaurak
2
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Posted - 2013.04.16 13:07:00 -
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Zappity wrote:What are you flying? Which systems? I usually inhabit the Kamela region and rarely go ten minutes without finding a fight (literally). Are you in a faction or are you more 'liberal' in your attentions?
Check dotlan FW map for Amarr/Minmatar for the most active recent systems. Admittedly you can have the odd dull day. It has happened a few times for me so I log my market alts in and keep the iskies ticking over.
In my experience FW just runs away all the time....oh noes an outlaw RUN FOR THE HILLS! 
----True oldschool solo pvp'er----
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
Amarrian Commandos
855
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Posted - 2013.04.16 13:09:00 -
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DOUBLE!
P-P-P-POST!
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
Amarrian Commandos
855
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Posted - 2013.04.16 13:11:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Safespots are largely pointless when you're in a frig.
eerrrm, SS are probably safest in a frig with a perma-mwd, no?
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Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society
The Devil's Tattoo
870
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Posted - 2013.04.16 15:19:00 -
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adriaans wrote:Zappity wrote:What are you flying? Which systems? I usually inhabit the Kamela region and rarely go ten minutes without finding a fight (literally). Are you in a faction or are you more 'liberal' in your attentions?
Check dotlan FW map for Amarr/Minmatar for the most active recent systems. Admittedly you can have the odd dull day. It has happened a few times for me so I log my market alts in and keep the iskies ticking over. In my experience FW just runs away all the time....oh noes an outlaw RUN FOR THE HILLS!
Obviously the fw players will be much more likely to run than neutrals in plexes. There is no reason for a neutral to be in a plex other than to pvp. Whereas the fw pilots are often there to carebear vp for thier miltiia.
Thats why I wonder what percent of kills in plexes are from faction war players as opposed to neutrals. FW plexes are a great pvp venue and have replaced the top belt. It seems to me, the number of actual fights I get with neutrals is climbing every month.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
Amarrian Commandos
857
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Posted - 2013.04.16 16:02:00 -
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Cearain wrote:FW plexes are a great pvp venue and have replaced the top belt. It seems to me, the number of actual fights I get with neutrals is climbing every month.
Totally this!
The word is out, Low sec is now worth hunting in, FW farmers and pvpers actually live there!
Some one should tell null sec they are doing it wrong.
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Sian Ka'an
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
0
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Posted - 2013.04.16 19:53:00 -
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there is no shortage of solo pvp once you change your definition of the word to 1 vs local.
know your ship, know your enemy, work the grid. |
Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour
Caldari State Capturing
376
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Posted - 2013.04.16 21:38:00 -
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Cearain wrote:adriaans wrote:Zappity wrote:What are you flying? Which systems? I usually inhabit the Kamela region and rarely go ten minutes without finding a fight (literally). Are you in a faction or are you more 'liberal' in your attentions?
Check dotlan FW map for Amarr/Minmatar for the most active recent systems. Admittedly you can have the odd dull day. It has happened a few times for me so I log my market alts in and keep the iskies ticking over. In my experience FW just runs away all the time....oh noes an outlaw RUN FOR THE HILLS! Obviously the fw players will be much more likely to run than neutrals in plexes. There is no reason for a neutral to be in a plex other than to pvp. Whereas the fw pilots are often there to carebear vp for thier miltiia. Thats why I wonder what percent of kills in plexes are from faction war players as opposed to neutrals. FW plexes are a great pvp venue and have replaced the top belt. It seems to me, the number of actual fights I get with neutrals is climbing every month.
Also remember thet FW provides a loarge number of 'legitimate' targets so people can comfortably pvp without sec status hits. This is also a reason why some people won't attack a nuetral.
There are however lots of 'outlaws' in FW who use the plex's as a pvp generator as well. I'm often sitting in a plex waiting for the locals to show up and shoot me only to find that the plex runs down and I get LP for waiting for a pie to come at me 
I can't be arsed to LP farm but I'll take the LP while I'm waiting to get blown up. Helps fund my otherwise expensive pvp habit. True if I was neutral I could attack anyone coming into a plex but tbh I find being in FW doesn't really limit my number of targets a great deal as more and more non FW people are using the plex's \o/
I do find it a bit sad that the True solo'ist is a dieing breed though. But I'll still solo truthfully!!!!! CHARGE!!!!!
That is the Way, the Tao.
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Arguil McKay
Str8ngeBrew
RAZOR Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.04.17 00:31:00 -
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get a bubble
get a wolf
go to null
deploy the bubble between to active jump gates (perferably in bottleneck system)
make safe 200km above the bubble and wait for prey to be caught
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set a route through null, and find your prey to fight |
Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour
Caldari State Capturing
377
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Posted - 2013.04.17 00:34:00 -
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Arguil McKay wrote:get a bubble
get a wolf
go to null
deploy the bubble between to active jump gates (perferably in bottleneck system)
make safe 200km above the bubble and wait for prey to be caught
or
set a route through null, and find your prey to fight
This might be fine for more active TZ's
But in the AU TZ null is quieter than a nuns frat party.
Not saying it can't be done but the amount of time spent roaming and 'fishing' is vastly less in low sec.
That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction
Whores in space
162
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Posted - 2013.04.18 10:58:00 -
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There is no such things as SOLO pvp. You alwyas need 2 persons.. one being the victim.
This must be some concept that only geeks coudl create.. thinking that everything can be done solo even when nature designed it to be done in couples. |
Preestar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
3
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Posted - 2013.04.24 20:14:00 -
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Sian Ka'an wrote:there is no shortage of solo pvp once you change your definition of the word to 1 vs local.
know your ship, know your enemy, work the grid.
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS.
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LooknSee
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2013.04.25 00:27:00 -
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I remember an era when men were godly men of god and fought other godly men of god in proper contests of skill and honour upon glorious fields of battle. I remember it so clearly it could have been yesterday.
Yet the amazing thing about this memory... is that it never happened. |
Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society
The Devil's Tattoo
878
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Posted - 2013.04.25 13:40:00 -
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LooknSee wrote:I remember an era when men were godly men of god and fought other godly men of god in proper contests of skill and honour upon glorious fields of battle. I remember it so clearly it could have been yesterday.
Yet the amazing thing about this memory... is that it never happened.
Its actually happening now in greater numbers than ever. There are lots of good fights to be had in faction war plexes. Especially if you are not in faction war and can fight both militias.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
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Halete
Alexylva Paradox
770
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Posted - 2013.04.25 15:31:00 -
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I 'True Solo' PvP.
- My efficiency is **** (compounded by the fact I tend to inefficiently bling not very good ships now and again for fun, including a stint of Deadspace combat Interceptors...)
- I get ECMed
- I get pounced on by Recons
- Over-shipped people run from me often. Dramiels and Daredevils will inexplicably warp off from your Rifter. People fit WCS and cloaks. Many people aren't interested in fights that aren't going to be complete clear-cut stomps
- The blob
- OGBs
- Other 'True Solo' pilots tend to be flying FOTM
- I need to stay small to evade camps, limiting my engagement profile
- People will be warp core stabbed
- People will be warp core stabbed
- On some nights I will literally be roaming for hours and not get a fight
- On those nights I'll run into somebody warp core stabbed
- The last few points mean I get burned out and take breaks often. I've overall only had a couple of hundred fights
- By extension of this, I look at my lifetime kills and think about all of the hard hours I put in scanning and chasing, then I look at people who participate in weekend fleets and get my lifetime kills in a month with not much effort
- Sometimes I get sad when I see that literally everybody with a worthwhile fleet ranges in 95%~99% efficiency. Then I take a step back and wonder why I'm giving a ****
- You'll sometimes finally get fights and it'll be a t1 crapfit, which can be just as disheartening as not finding a fight at all
So this probably looks like a whine post. It isn't. It's just observations from my time playing. These are issues for some people (not me), and those people will find greener pastures.
But I'll say this;
I'm honestly really happy with my experience.
Solo PvP isn't dead, it's just not everybody's cup of tea.
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