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Angelus X
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Posted - 2005.08.29 17:32:00 -
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Edited by: Angelus X on 29/08/2005 17:33:06
I disagree about them being STRONGER post-patch, as the increase in fitting requirements is a pain in the *SS. However they are far from "rubbish".
/me gives DrunkenOne a cookie 
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Creamster
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Posted - 2005.08.30 03:40:00 -
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 Originally by: j0sephine
If the target is MWDing non-webbed inty, the damage of standard missiles isn't limited by target's signature size, but by their speed.
Target painter will help jack sh.t here.
Target painter is just another option for the 3rd slot. A competent crow pilot will maintain 10+ km range even w/o a web (especially with a gisti mwd fitted), why not fit something that adds to your damage and helps your partners.
Also it's possible for a standart missile to catch an enemy inty when it's decelerating and inflict some decent damage (not full) As long as you own inty doesn't take any damage you're winning right?
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.08.30 08:09:00 -
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So, who won the duel? Tactics used? Tell us everything!
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Star Dog
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Posted - 2005.08.30 10:03:00 -
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This is BV (account has gone inactive damnit). We were both too lazy to organise a meetup since we're on the opposite sides of the game. Still trying to organise it :)
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Bazman
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Posted - 2005.08.30 11:48:00 -
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Yeah, we're litterally on the opposite side of the galaxy from each other and we never seem to be online at the same time either. If all else fails i'm happy enough to try it out in sisi since its easy enough to find each other in PF-346 :P
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.08.30 13:03:00 -
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"Target painter is just another option for the 3rd slot. A competent crow pilot will maintain 10+ km range even w/o a web (especially with a gisti mwd fitted), why not fit something that adds to your damage and helps your partners."
Uhmm because like said already, it doesn't add to your damage with light missiles against MWD'ing target? If it's to help other people then fine, but originally you're saying that's supposed to fix damage problems of 'your' ship firing the light missiles...
"Also it's possible for a standart missile to catch an enemy inty when it's decelerating and inflict some decent damage (not full) "
Sure, except you don't need the painter for it, and it'll work as long as the other pilot is incompetent enough to actually decelerate in presence of faster interceptor with light missiles, for longer than couple of seconds. Dunno, but a weapon that requires the target's incompetence in order to be useful... that sounds hardly reliable, does it? ^^;;
"As long as you own inty doesn't take any damage you're winning right?"
No, as long as your damage is laughable and you aren't taking the damage yourself, it's stalemate... :/
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Creamster
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Posted - 2005.08.30 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
"Also it's possible for a standart missile to catch an enemy inty when it's decelerating and inflict some decent damage (not full) "
Sure, except you don't need the painter for it, and it'll work as long as the other pilot is incompetent enough to actually decelerate in presence of faster interceptor with light missiles, for longer than couple of seconds. Dunno, but a weapon that requires the target's incompetence in order to be useful... that sounds hardly reliable, does it? ^^;;
Forget about the painter. It might help under certain circumstances but it's not a fix for standart missiles damage vs mwd'ing inties at full speed. I don't see a problem here: even if your opponent is laughing what are his options? Go in a streight line and smack talk or try to close-in and eat some damage. It's up to you to catch him when he's decelerating.
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Dampfschlaghammer
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Posted - 2005.08.30 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: Dampfschlaghammer on 30/08/2005 16:03:31
I dont see the point of such a light missile crow.
It will never be able to shoot down another ceptor UNLESS the pilot is an idiot. Of course, it can in most cases (not all) keep the other guy at range.
But in order for it to actually score kills you need a retarded enemy that flies in a straight line behind you, knowing that he will never get into range, and knowing that you will very slowly take him down.
If your ceptor versus another ceptors is to have any use, then you need to enable it to shoot down its opponent.
You can do that either by
a) warp scrambling enemy, and outspeeding it to keep it in scramble range, and finally outdamaging it at this range.
b) overcoming him so quickly with huge damage that he is too surprised (too slow) to flee.
Now b) is obviously not available to the light missile crow, as it simply does not deal good damage.
a) Is also not really an option as well. Even if you succed at manoeuvring your enemy in 10-20km with a MWD, so that he cant hit you but you keep him in scrambler range, you will only do crappy damage. I dont think a crow can sustain a 20km scrambler and a MWD for a time long enough to allow this crappy damage to take the enemy down.
Thus, the biggest problem with the light missile crow is that there is NO other inty it can beat.
The other problem is that range intys specifically designed to beat speed interceptors can own it easily.
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