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Armando Sanchez
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Posted - 2005.08.27 21:04:00 -
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SE vs G/Imp in 15 seconds? |
FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.27 21:05:00 -
[2]
SE ran out of veld so were trying to find more
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Tai'Kimoto
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Posted - 2005.08.27 21:05:00 -
[3]
YARRRR
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Orc A
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Posted - 2005.08.27 21:06:00 -
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15 seconds? i was picturing something more like.. 1.12 secs?
-Orky |
Cpt Abestos
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Posted - 2005.08.27 21:09:00 -
[5]
Its the Stain Empire mining dance.
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Naverin
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Posted - 2005.08.27 21:11:00 -
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We are taking a fleet to scout new veldspar belts... figure 200 of us can clean out a system every 15-20 min... Thx for the ore Cloud ring
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Kamikaze1
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Posted - 2005.08.27 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: Kamikaze1 on 27/08/2005 21:14:06
STAIN 4TW  
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MrMann
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Posted - 2005.08.27 21:16:00 -
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VELDSPAR & STAIN 4TW!!111oneoneeleven
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.08.27 21:16:00 -
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Sounds like those poor veldspar roids in Cloud Ring, are gonna take a hammering...  ... dont forget your roid scanners now...
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Zubenelgenubi
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Posted - 2005.08.27 21:16:00 -
[10]
Ah training for that large barge is paying off now.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.08.27 21:26:00 -
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what about the scordite rocks? YOU CANNOT FORGET ABOUT THE SCORDITE FFS!
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.08.27 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Armando Sanchez
SE vs G/Imp in 15 seconds?
This must be done.
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Nac MacFeegle
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Posted - 2005.08.27 21:27:00 -
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We heard rumours of a Rogue Cookie Hive.
All opinions expressed in this message are personal and don't necessarily reflect those of the poster's corp or alliance. |
FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.27 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Nac MacFeegle
We heard rumours of a Rogue Cookie Hive.
OMG Cookies!!! and i was excited about veld
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.08.27 22:21:00 -
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The sillyness would be ok if it was funny.
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.08.27 22:56:00 -
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OMG Stain came all the way up here.
/me plans a trip to Cloud Ring.
This is just WAYY too good.
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Ryshca
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Posted - 2005.08.27 23:21:00 -
[17]
Do we talk about the same Stain Empire who doesnt even control their own space?
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.27 23:30:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Ryshca
Do we talk about the same Stain Empire who doesnt even control their own space?
we got 200 ships saying we do as well as cloud ring for that matter
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Orc A
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Posted - 2005.08.27 23:31:00 -
[19]
no, we are talking about the same Stain Empire who today set 2 new records: Largest gang ever in eve, and fastest station take.
Stfu alts.
g'day.
-Orky |
DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2005.08.27 23:34:00 -
[20]
Originally by: Orc A
no, we are talking about the same Stain Empire who today set 2 new records: Largest gang ever in eve, and fastest station take.
Stfu alts.
g'day.
sorry you still suck
-Havo
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MushroomsrUs
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Posted - 2005.08.27 23:34:00 -
[21]
Edited by: MushroomsrUs on 27/08/2005 23:34:41
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.08.27 23:35:00 -
[22]
Originally by: Orc A
no, we are talking about the same Stain Empire who today set 2 new records: Largest gang ever in eve, and fastest station take.
Stfu alts.
g'day.
Dream on. The [5] had like a 400 man gang when they first formed going into curse.
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.08.27 23:36:00 -
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i herby declear myself empour of the Cloud Ring veld rocks, Fallout, as my bitc.... errr corp mate, give me all your ore for refining 
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.27 23:41:00 -
[24]
Quote:
Dream on. The [5] had like a 400 man gang when they first formed going into curse.
And there was great celebration and merriment.
Crashing, logging, flying, crashing, logging, stuck on login, some more crashing.
And then... \o/ We were HOME!!!
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Khaerie
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Posted - 2005.08.27 23:51:00 -
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Shopping List:
Marshmallows
Chocolate Chips
Veldspar
Bread
Fellows, please don't forget to bring me a new corsette while up there. k? tyvm
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:02:00 -
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So when are you two jumping into eachother?
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N3rvous
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:08:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Bizarre
So when are you two jumping into eachother?
Umm, Stain has at this moment 119 ships and we have 83. Hmm, I think they need a few more people before we play.
- N3rvous
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:08:00 -
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I think both sides should approach on the respective gates.. and on a synchronised count, jump into the others system.
With luck of the draw, whatever you find on the other side is fair game?
Fun?
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:09:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Bizarre
So when are you two jumping into eachother?
whenever the fleet in 7d grows some balls, we were here first so were not going to be the one jumping
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:14:00 -
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TBH, either side should have the willingness/courtesy/balls (or whatever you wanna call it).
LET THE ENEMY JUMP IN. LOAD SYSTEM. Don't give ****ty 20 s ultimatums. Let them actually load up and setup at gate. Then the other side can do the warpins.
When its all done, the larger group sits at gate, thus giving the smaller group the advantage of picking range/ direction of warpins.
I mean we are all in this for fun.
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Admiral HashBlock
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:15:00 -
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we heard what happend to bob.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:15:00 -
[32]
Originally by: FalloutBoy
Originally by: Ryshca
Do we talk about the same Stain Empire who doesnt even control their own space?
we got 200 ships saying we do as well as cloud ring for that matter
Brave to blob up an nearly abandoned space with 200 ppl.
I personally find it sad, that we are now forced to leave FA Space, we had some very nice fights with bob and xelas there.
On the other hand im lucky to kick some SE ass
-G- Pink Power
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:15:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Bizarre
How about allowing eachother to jump into the system and arrange a fight at a planet/gate/moon?
It won't matter who jumps into who, you'll get your ship replaced anyway. But instead of complaining about lag you could have a massive fleetbattle. It's your choice...
There fleet commander said they didnt trust us enough to do that.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:18:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Darko1107
Originally by: Bizarre
How about allowing eachother to jump into the system and arrange a fight at a planet/gate/moon?
It won't matter who jumps into who, you'll get your ship replaced anyway. But instead of complaining about lag you could have a massive fleetbattle. It's your choice...
There fleet commander said they didnt trust us enough to do that.
considering what happend to bob when the very same offer was made I think its a wise choice on our part
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Naverin
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:18:00 -
[35]
Quote:
we heard what happend to bob.
Quoted for truth..
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:19:00 -
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Well the problem here from SE perspective is this that the last attempt at this against G backfired miserably. Since people jumped the gun on shooting stuff and it was lagged to hell.
However, if the fleet that is allowing the jump in GUARANTEES the safety for those jumping in till they are ALL loaded.. and backsteps on it. It would really screw up there image. On the other hand if they don't, it might be an awesome time for both sides.
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Acwron
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Stormfront
Well the problem here from SE perspective is this that the last attempt at this against G backfired miserably. Since people jumped the gun on shooting stuff and it was lagged to hell.
However, if the fleet that is allowing the jump in GUARANTEES the safety for those jumping in till they are ALL loaded.. and backsteps on it. It would really screw up there image. On the other hand if they don't, it might be an awesome time for both sides.
Well considering that G never had a fleetfight against SE and we ain't even in the area (Cloud Ring) atm your statement is kind of interesting. :)
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:22:00 -
[38]
Originally by: FalloutBoy
Originally by: Darko1107
Originally by: Bizarre
How about allowing eachother to jump into the system and arrange a fight at a planet/gate/moon?
It won't matter who jumps into who, you'll get your ship replaced anyway. But instead of complaining about lag you could have a massive fleetbattle. It's your choice...
There fleet commander said they didnt trust us enough to do that.
considering what happend to bob when the very same offer was made I think its a wise choice on our part
Yes accept bob did it when they had 80 vrs about 150. Its the other way round for you.
Im not bothered. Just stop whining about "balls" and all taht crap. We will sit here much longer if needed. :)
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Draconian
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:22:00 -
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heres how i like to think of it if u invade the burden of jumping in on the hostiles is on u
but thats just me
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DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:24:00 -
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stain grow some ******* balls you have more numbers and still wont jump in on them, fgts
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:26:00 -
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Quote:
Well considering that G never had a fleetfight against SE and we ain't even in the area (Cloud Ring) atm your statement is kind of interesting. :)
My statement didn't refer to SE having fought with G. It was referring to what we know happened against G for BOB on there jump in.. outnumbered.
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Acwron
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:28:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Stormfront
Quote:
Well considering that G never had a fleetfight against SE and we ain't even in the area (Cloud Ring) atm your statement is kind of interesting. :)
My statement didn't refer to SE having fought with G. It was referring to what we know happened against G for BOB on there jump in.. outnumbered.
guess you want to spreat some myths. well go ahead.
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Draconian
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:29:00 -
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hell nbsi/fe/pa/iron/g jumped into a 6 bubble bob/xs camp with odds of 150 to 100-120 in north favor
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: FalloutBoy
Originally by: Bizarre
So when are you two jumping into eachother?
whenever the fleet in 7d grows some balls, we were here first so were not going to be the one jumping
three cheers for the stupidest comment ever. We were here first so YOU guys need to grow some balls and jump into the bigger force...
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Draconian
heres how i like to think of it if u invade the burden of jumping in on the hostiles is on u
but thats just me
true but we already secured area first so they are invading the area we just secured. we aren't just looking for a fight here yah know
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Lorth
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:32:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Lorth on 28/08/2005 00:32:26
Sorry didn't read what I has quoted clearly enough. Go stain!
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:32:00 -
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Quote:
Originally by: Stormfront
Quote:
Well considering that G never had a fleetfight against SE and we ain't even in the area (Cloud Ring) atm your statement is kind of interesting. :)
My statement didn't refer to SE having fought with G. It was referring to what we know happened against G for BOB on there jump in.. outnumbered.
guess you want to spreat some myths. well go ahead.
I believe your friend Darko summed it up well..
Quote:
Yes accept bob did it when they had 80 vrs about 150. Its the other way round for you.
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KonKite
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:48:00 -
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So.... no-one has replied for a while.... no more *****in'?
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:51:00 -
[49]
So, was there a fight, or what?
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.28 00:55:00 -
[50]
Hope so for the pilots on either side.
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Awalance
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:05:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: FalloutBoy
Originally by: Ryshca
Do we talk about the same Stain Empire who doesnt even control their own space?
we got 200 ships saying we do as well as cloud ring for that matter
Brave to blob up an nearly abandoned space with 200 ppl.
I personally find it sad, that we are now forced to leave FA Space, we had some very nice fights with bob and xelas there.
On the other hand im lucky to kick some SE ass
I think IMP just realise they have a problem 
I alaso beleve the war betwen south and north just begun.These day gentalmans was a dream for all eve players...now is reality
...SE wellcome to party
GL&HF all
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:10:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 28/08/2005 01:12:06
yeah tbh, fight or no fight, another ~ 200 able pilots added to the equation isn't something the northern entities can brush under the carpet....
can SE keep it together though...
/emote orders more popcorn...
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Gibmundur
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:17:00 -
[53]
se are pirates 
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Azeroth Uluntil
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:33:00 -
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Crashed to desktop after being podded while cloaked... Beautiful.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:33:00 -
[55]
Total crash in neighbor system also
cant enter game anymore
-G- Pink Power
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Naverin
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:33:00 -
[56]
Lag kills us all :/
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Buddrow
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:34:00 -
[57]
Iron jumped into SE..... and CCP kick the Brown goo out of both of us. omfg ccp owns
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:34:00 -
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Guys, in the coming hours, avoid flaming each other.
One group had the will to jump in, give them props. And all slag CCP.
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:35:00 -
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We jumped in on there bubble camp.
Total lagfest and node crash. :\. Think thats the last time we jump in on any1.
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:36:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Dianabolic
So, was there a fight, or what?
\0/ for the 5 minute lag response time, but yes there is a fight atm
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Azeroth Uluntil
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:37:00 -
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Hmmm, confirmed 6 SE bs's downed during the lag. :D No clue on anything else though...
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:37:00 -
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All those who lost something, lets hope you get your ships back. And MAYBE, JUST MAYBE. CCP will bother fixing this crap
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:38:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Azeroth Uluntil
Hmmm, confirmed 6 SE bs's downed during the lag. :D No clue on anything else though...
not a flame, but i heard some SE guys say he podded 5 before he CTD'd
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Tai'Kimoto
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:38:00 -
[64]
I just wanted to shoot SOMETHING.
wonder if i was called a target?
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Azeroth Uluntil
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:39:00 -
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Entirely possible. Most of our people didn't even have the screen loaded by the time we decloaked. We had maybe 10 ships able to fight back.
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Naverin
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:40:00 -
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I was one of SE bs's downed.. i was right near the gate ... real shame that Even tho i didnt jump in.. i still lagged out so much that i died without actually seeing a thing happen :/
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Cpt Abestos
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:43:00 -
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in the end lag won the day
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Azeroth Uluntil
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:45:00 -
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CCP need to adress this goddamn lag issue. It's annoying being unable to even react to anything. Gotta love pointless battles. :D
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Kirex
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:47:00 -
[69]
bah couldnt see anyone, couldnt warp out, and my eve client froze =/
hope my sex0r rax is ok.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:48:00 -
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Just an fyi for you people, and a comment for imran last:
Continue to jump in, guys, ask for a GM and Dev presence if ur gonna do so to get logs of it. This helps in 2 ways:
1 - Keep petitioning and make sure it is escalated to a senior GM, we eventually got our ships from the v7- debacle replaced out of pure persistance. YOU play the game an awful lot more than the gm's do, link to this post and, WHEN one pilots ship is replaced, every other petition should link to it - if they replace one, they must replace them all (you won't get your loot back, though).
2 - CCP (if you've invited them) get logs of it, this will help us all in the long term as, eventually, somene will find a way to counter it.
Imran - keep jumping in, camping a gate is boring. The same goes to SE, ofc, but, hey, it's a dirty job, someone's gotta do it.
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:48:00 -
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me thinks CCP need to upgrade there hamster model, it seems to be a bit dated now 
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Weeman
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:55:00 -
[72]
Im down...didnt even see any of the ships that killed me. Its pointless tbh, all these ship losses are down to the lag, and lag alone
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Azeroth Uluntil
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Posted - 2005.08.28 01:57:00 -
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Yeah, just heard you called primary. Heh. Apparently, the lag isn't that bad since your guys's fleet split up.
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Weeman
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Posted - 2005.08.28 02:05:00 -
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Its shocking. SE lost i think by quite a bit, down wholly to the lag. I had to wait 5mins before anything changed on my screen. Ridiculous really, CCP replied to a corp mate "theres a problem with the system". Well its good to see CCP are employing humans with intelligent rather than comedy monkeys 
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Azeroth Uluntil
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Posted - 2005.08.28 02:09:00 -
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We're having friendly fire issues... The lag is horrible from what I hear...
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.08.28 02:12:00 -
[76]
yeah, makes me almost glad im not there, lol 
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Nadija
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Posted - 2005.08.28 02:14:00 -
[77]
I just lost my raven, pod & implant with out even seeing any ships... all i saw was my shield go down.. armour went down... then pod went splat
writing my petition
P.S I know how all the other guys feel thatt lost thier ships due to lag.. on both sides.. repsect to the enemy for jumping in, just wish i could have shot at u
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Skeeka
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Posted - 2005.08.28 02:26:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Skeeka on 28/08/2005 02:26:18
lol
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Roost426
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Posted - 2005.08.28 02:28:00 -
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That was terrible, alot of people sat there for HOURS and were then killed without seeing anything, being able to move or fire.
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Azeroth Uluntil
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Posted - 2005.08.28 02:32:00 -
[80]
Should've just abandoned the gates, and setup a battle meeting point... The fight at the gates blew. Heh.
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Azeroth Uluntil
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Posted - 2005.08.28 02:35:00 -
[81]
Remember to update your killboards accordingly. We need to know losses.
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.08.28 02:35:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Imran on 28/08/2005 02:35:32
Originally by: Dianabolic
Imran - keep jumping in, camping a gate is boring. The same goes to SE, ofc, but, hey, it's a dirty job, someone's gotta do it.
@_@ i did jump in :( what do you mean
edit: my vigil survived ^.^
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Azeroth Uluntil
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Posted - 2005.08.28 02:38:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Imran
Edited by: Imran on 28/08/2005 02:35:32
Originally by: Dianabolic
Imran - keep jumping in, camping a gate is boring. The same goes to SE, ofc, but, hey, it's a dirty job, someone's gotta do it.
@_@ i did jump in :( what do you mean
edit: my vigil survived ^.^
And got 5 frigin kills.
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Nadija
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Posted - 2005.08.28 02:46:00 -
[84]
/me hasn't had a kill for a week now *twitches*
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looMin uS
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Posted - 2005.08.28 02:55:00 -
[85]
BIG UP to SE...
Long time we worked as a team...200+ pilots-WOW
BIG UP to the north...
Jumping in was G/IMP/EXODUS/Iron-ballsy
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.08.28 02:58:00 -
[86]
Originally by: looMin uS
BIG UP to SE...
Long time we worked as a team...200+ pilots-WOW
BIG UP to the north...
Jumping in was G/IMP/EXODUS/Iron-ballsy
Several northern corps as well <3
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clagnuts
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Posted - 2005.08.28 03:18:00 -
[87]
only way round this issue of lag, is we take it in turns to play rock ,paper scissors till theres just 1 ship left
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Berneh
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Posted - 2005.08.28 03:44:00 -
[88]
Too much lag :( i couldnt turn off autopilot for 5jumps :/
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Death Merchant
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Posted - 2005.08.28 03:58:00 -
[89]
Well at least the planet to planet stuff was cool
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ElricUK
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Posted - 2005.08.28 04:45:00 -
[90]
Edited by: ElricUK on 28/08/2005 04:47:47
Yeah the planet to planet fighting was pretty lagless, just big problems on the inital jump in. At one point a friendly tempest pilot showed on screeen+overview as a neutral named 'tempest' with no corp tag or HUD icons on, very strange. Unfortunatly the pilot in question was later identified by his kill mail with friendlies listed on
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Risiru
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Posted - 2005.08.28 04:47:00 -
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Quote:
1 - Keep petitioning and make sure it is escalated to a senior GM, we eventually got our ships from the v7- debacle replaced out of pure persistance
just wondered. all of the BS or just the ones from the start of the battle (when people lagged out)?
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Abriana Overlord
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Posted - 2005.08.28 04:52:00 -
[92]
Props for jump in chaps, Lag got in the way of what would have been a great battle. Well CCP will now be busy responding the petitions
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Buddrow
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Posted - 2005.08.28 04:53:00 -
[93]
To be honest
There was also Corps that live in IRON space
So from IRON to the Dek Residents, thank you. DonÆt think we didn't take note of who have been regulars and we very much appreciate your dedication to the north and the betterment of IRON. Thank you to all resident corps who took up arms in a swift and effective manner.
Bud
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"Give me but one firm spot on which to stand, and I will move earth."
Archimedes c.287 - 212 BC
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Madboy
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Posted - 2005.08.28 04:53:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Azeroth Uluntil
We're having friendly fire issues... The lag is horrible from what I hear...
Yep, you can call it a friendly fire issue. Everyone saw me as a neutral tempest and reacted.
2005.08.28 01:51:00
Victim: Madboy
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: AUS Corporation
Destroyed Type: Tempest
Solar System: Z-Y7R7
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Munch
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Imperial Republic Of the North
Corporation: InterGalactic Corp.
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: ElricUK
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: The Lost Boys
Ship Type: Armageddon
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Kha'el
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: Nomina Sacra Sapientia
Ship Type: Scorpion
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Sacred Spirit (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: Nomina Sacra Sapientia
Ship Type: Megathron
Weapon Type: 425mm Carbide Railgun I
Name: rewozz
Security Status: -0.3
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: Everlasting Vendetta
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: MrCue
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: Drones of Annihilation
Ship Type: Megathron
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Kraph Kreyghal
Security Status: 4.6
Alliance: Imperial Republic Of the North
Corporation: E X O D U S
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Krazow
Security Status: 0.3
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: Alcatraz Inc.
Ship Type: Scorpion
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Einstine
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: AUS Corporation
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: west avatar
Security Status: 2.2
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: GalacTECH Unlimited
Ship Type: Capsule
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Emno
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Imperial Republic Of the North
Corporation: E X O D U S
Ship Type: Megathron
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: MentalM
Security Status: 5.2
Alliance: Imperial Republic Of the North
Corporation: E X O D U S
Ship Type: Armageddon
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: fincormack
Security Status: 4.5
Alliance: Imperial Republic Of the North
Corporation: E X O D U S
Ship Type: Enyo
Weapon Type: Unknown
I feel loved.. hope CCP give my baby back.
- MB
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Abriana Overlord
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Posted - 2005.08.28 04:54:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Risiru
Quote:
just wondered. all of the BS or just the ones from the start of the battle (when people lagged out)?
I got lagged out at the start managed to lock the first 3 or 4 targets and then was lagged for a good 4 or 5 minutes (felt like 30 minutes).
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Emno
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Posted - 2005.08.28 04:58:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Madboy
Originally by: Azeroth Uluntil
We're having friendly fire issues... The lag is horrible from what I hear...
Yep, you can call it a friendly fire issue. Everyone saw me as a neutral tempest and reacted.
2005.08.28 01:51:00
Victim: Madboy
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: AUS Corporation
Destroyed Type: Tempest
Solar System: Z-Y7R7
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Emno
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Imperial Republic Of the North
Corporation: E X O D U S
Ship Type: Megathron
Weapon Type: Unknown
I feel loved.. hope CCP give my baby back.
- MB
 was a bit ****** up tho lol at least we have it frapsed as proof
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Madboy
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Posted - 2005.08.28 05:04:00 -
[97]
Hey guys,
Thought i'd add to my experience of the lagfest which should have been a brilliant battle.
We warped in and straight away the lag just hit. I think it took about 5 min for me to actually see around me. Once I did see what was around me I only got about 30 secs before all that I could do is watch ships move around.
Couple minutes waiting for something to happened logged off to see if the system would recover. Came back with my tempest untouched. Warped back to again engage this time after a short period of lag I was able to work my tempest around till toward the end of the battle friendlies started locking me.
All enemies where pretty much all gone when 13 friendlies saw a neutral tempest and *sigh* fired. Couldn't do much with that kind of fire power and splat..
Originally by: Azeroth Uluntil
We're having friendly fire issues... The lag is horrible from what I hear...
Yep, you can call it a friendly fire issue. Everyone saw me as a neutral tempest and reacted.
2005.08.28 01:51:00
Victim: Madboy
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: AUS Corporation
Destroyed Type: Tempest
Solar System: Z-Y7R7
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Munch
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Imperial Republic Of the North
Corporation: InterGalactic Corp.
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: ElricUK
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: The Lost Boys
Ship Type: Armageddon
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Kha'el
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: Nomina Sacra Sapientia
Ship Type: Scorpion
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Sacred Spirit (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: Nomina Sacra Sapientia
Ship Type: Megathron
Weapon Type: 425mm Carbide Railgun I
Name: rewozz
Security Status: -0.3
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: Everlasting Vendetta
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: MrCue
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: Drones of Annihilation
Ship Type: Megathron
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Kraph Kreyghal
Security Status: 4.6
Alliance: Imperial Republic Of the North
Corporation: E X O D U S
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Krazow
Security Status: 0.3
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: Alcatraz Inc.
Ship Type: Scorpion
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Einstine
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: AUS Corporation
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: west avatar
Security Status: 2.2
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: GalacTECH Unlimited
Ship Type: Capsule
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Emno
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Imperial Republic Of the North
Corporation: E X O D U S
Ship Type: Megathron
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: MentalM
Security Status: 5.2
Alliance: Imperial Republic Of the North
Corporation: E X O D U S
Ship Type: Armageddon
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: fincormack
Security Status: 4.5
Alliance: Imperial Republic Of the North
Corporation: E X O D U S
Ship Type: Enyo
Weapon Type: Unknown
I feel loved.. hope CCP give my baby back.
Good battle, great fight peoples all around just spewing about the damn lag.
- MB
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Judus
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Posted - 2005.08.28 05:19:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Judus on 28/08/2005 05:21:07
nice move on the IRON/G/IMP (hereby known as the IRON GIMP fleet) bump outta the pos force field move ya guys did.
ya gotta teach me how to do that one day.
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Azeroth Uluntil
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Posted - 2005.08.28 05:28:00 -
[99]
Don't think you were bumped out of the pos field. You wandered out on your own and got shot... We wondered why you did that lol
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Madboy
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Posted - 2005.08.28 05:30:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Judus
Edited by: Judus on 28/08/2005 05:21:07
nice move on the IRON/G/IMP (hereby known as the IRON GIMP fleet) bump outta the pos force field move ya guys did.
ya gotta teach me how to do that one day.
lol, i thought you where just playing.
- MB
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Asariasha
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Posted - 2005.08.28 05:36:00 -
[101]
Of course the lag disturbs the gameplay a lot, but participating in a greater fleetbattle and weeping about lost shipds is pure hypocrisy.
If you are a part of an invading 200+ fleet you have to be sure about the upcoming lag while facing an even-numbered enemy.
Greetz
Asa
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Judus
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Posted - 2005.08.28 05:38:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Azeroth Uluntil
Don't think you were bumped out of the pos field. You wandered out on your own and got shot... We wondered why you did that lol
no, i was bumbed, someone warped in and hit me, put me up to around 1000-3000 m/s. I knew I wouldn't wonder out as my last command as to approch the warp disruption battarie.
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FowlPlayChiken
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Posted - 2005.08.28 05:52:00 -
[103]
wow i cant even log on in rens. thanks guys. lol
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Emno
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Posted - 2005.08.28 05:54:00 -
[104]
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken
wow i cant even log on in rens. thanks guys. lol
shh it was hours ago
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.08.28 06:29:00 -
[105]
Wow. SE are far too big. They must be downsized again.
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Balazs Simon
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Posted - 2005.08.28 06:36:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Orc A
no, we are talking about the same Stain Empire who today set 2 new records: Largest gang ever in eve, and fastest station take.
Stfu alts.
g'day.
Largest gang in eve ?? What was the number??
In FA gold times , sometimes we had a blob of 230+
- New sig coming soon.. |
Crean NaVar
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Posted - 2005.08.28 09:52:00 -
[107]
Respect and props to our northern allies. You once again proved that we can count on you. Impressive performance against all odds.
Pretty funny to read the first and second page of this thread, and then looking at the outcome of the night. And i can¦t wait to see how much they post when the [G] forces are back home.
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Shivani
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Posted - 2005.08.28 10:13:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Crean NaVar
Respect and props to our northern allies. You once again proved that we can count on you. Impressive performance against all odds.
Pretty funny to read the first and second page of this thread, and then looking at the outcome of the night. And i can¦t wait to see how much they post when the [G] forces are back home.
To the north? Was PA as well there? I mean with more than 1-2 pilots?
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.08.28 10:38:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Crean NaVar
...[G] forces are back home.
I was gonna get you guys a home entertainment system for yz-lql, too.
booooo!
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.08.28 10:42:00 -
[110]
Well our 85 Man blob (Nearly 100% IRON + Dekien corps) jumped in on there 85 man blob while G were keeping a 20 man blob busy in g8ad or something. Lag was terrible at first, not many kills occured before it became impossible to do anything.
After the node or whatever started stabilizing it was great. We logged in all at the same time, took the gate, stain warped off after losing alot, i sent my frigs to scout all the planets/gates, we found them at planet 3 and had another fight, again we were left standing there. We then killed 3-4 lone bs that had warped to planets, and had another small battle at planet 3 again.
IMO after the lag settled it was a great fight, and it wasnt lag's fault that stain lost at all. Afterall, we had the lag aswell, and we were the ones stuck in bubbles when our games crashed. You had been sitting at the gate for ages, i dont think u had any idea we were coming in cos some of your fleet were shooting each other, could have meant you werent ready, or some people were afk .
Shame we killed 1 of our own tempests, it showed as neutral and as "Tempest" when its name was really "Madboy", i thought half way through killing it "Wait this guy is shouting friendly fire and we are killing a neutral "tempest"". Ooops. Sorry madboy  .
GF Stain. Was fun.
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FotoFlame
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Posted - 2005.08.28 11:03:00 -
[111]
Edited by: FotoFlame on 28/08/2005 11:06:25
gotta love the chaos of a fleet battle after everyone gets booted having no more gang to coordinate warps with pretty much dictates that whoevers loses the initial battle will run around the system like headless chickens.
awesome fight.
~Foto
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.08.28 11:05:00 -
[112]
I've checked IRON's killboard this morning, and i was just: OMFG. Kinnda envy u.
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Shivani
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Posted - 2005.08.28 11:07:00 -
[113]
Originally by: LUKEC
I've checked IRON's killboard this morning, and i was just: OMFG. Kinnda envy u.
Ya, too bad you haven't been there... thats the so called "Northern-alliance-defense-hug- club". Where was PA?
The only one fighting are G. Period, with some IRON here and there.
Tells everything about the north.
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.08.28 11:13:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Shivani
Originally by: LUKEC
I've checked IRON's killboard this morning, and i was just: OMFG. Kinnda envy u.
Ya, too bad you haven't been there... thats the so called "Northern-alliance-defense-hug- club". Where was PA?
The only one fighting are G. Period, with some IRON here and there.
Tells everything about the north.
What part of 80 man blob, in G's space, to help G, do u not understand?
Go home idiot.
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Shivani
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Posted - 2005.08.28 11:18:00 -
[115]
Edited by: Shivani on 28/08/2005 11:19:29
I don't understand your alliance ticker. You now working undercover for PA, kid?
What part of IRON != PA do you not understand?
So where was FE? Where was PA? Hehe, it's all a lame comedy.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.08.28 11:23:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Shivani
Edited by: Shivani on 28/08/2005 11:19:29
I don't understand your alliance ticker. You now working undercover for PA, kid?
What part of IRON != PA do you not understand?
So where was FE? Where was PA? Hehe, it's all a lame comedy.
stfu lame alt
-G- Pink Power
Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game
Darko1107 > like pokemon |
Guderian
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Posted - 2005.08.28 11:23:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Darko1107
Originally by: Orc A
no, we are talking about the same Stain Empire who today set 2 new records: Largest gang ever in eve, and fastest station take.
Stfu alts.
g'day.
Dream on. The [5] had like a 400 man gang when they first formed going into curse.
There was a RAT camp in HED with about 5 snipping bs's and some support, so we needed the numbers
"Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lies beyond." |
Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.08.28 11:24:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Shivani
Edited by: Shivani on 28/08/2005 11:19:29
I don't understand your alliance ticker. You now working undercover for PA, kid?
What part of IRON != PA do you not understand?
So where was FE? Where was PA? Hehe, it's all a lame comedy.
Are you english? If not ok no problem i let you off. But erm, what are u talking about? You have totally lost me now.
I replied to this: "The only one fighting are G. Period, with some IRON here and there." implying that "here and there" with an 80 man blob, IS fighting, so G cant possibly be the only ones. So what if we aint in cloudring/outerring/fountain/delve, some1 has to stay in the north to protect it.
Then you reply saying PA dont equal IRON. Ok great reply.
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1naz
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Posted - 2005.08.28 11:27:00 -
[119]
sweet
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Shivani
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Posted - 2005.08.28 11:36:00 -
[120]
Edited by: Shivani on 28/08/2005 11:36:14
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
stfu lame alt
Ouch, but it's a new main. Despite that, your halfassed flame will not change the facts i stated.
Originally by: Darko1107
I replied to this: "The only one fighting are G. Period, with some IRON here and there." implying that "here and there" with an 80 man blob, IS fighting, so G cant possibly be the only ones. So what if we aint in cloudring/outerring/fountain/delve, some1 has to stay in the north to protect it.
Someone hast to stay to protect what? At that time there was absolutly no danger to the veldspar fields in Venal/Tenal. The fight took place in another region in the north. There was the danger... yet again no PA there.
The southern part of the north was in need of protection, not the veldspar fields in PA space.
That's my point. One clearly can see, who is stickingtogether in the northern alliance hug carebear minerclub.
Only fighting forces have been G and Iron. All others of the nother club have been hiding...
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.08.28 11:39:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Shivani
Edited by: Shivani on 28/08/2005 11:36:14
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
stfu lame alt
Ouch, but it's a new main. Despite that, your halfassed flame will not change the facts i stated.
Originally by: Darko1107
I replied to this: "The only one fighting are G. Period, with some IRON here and there." implying that "here and there" with an 80 man blob, IS fighting, so G cant possibly be the only ones. So what if we aint in cloudring/outerring/fountain/delve, some1 has to stay in the north to protect it.
Someone hast to stay to protect what? At that time there was absolutly no danger to the veldspar fields in Venal/Tenal. The fight took place in another region in the north. There was the danger... yet again no PA there.
The southern part of the north was in need of protection, not the veldspar fields in PA space.
That's my point. One clearly can see, who is stickingtogether in the northern alliance hug carebear minerclub.
Only fighting forces have been G and Iron. All others of the nother club have been hiding...
OMG I have seen the light.
Another half assed attempt to divide and conquer the north. It shows how strong the north is getting, when every thread about them, you have atleast 3-5 people stating how one part of teh north is doing more than the otehr and blah blah blah, in a lame attempt to get the northerners to fight eachother.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.08.28 11:41:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Shivani
Originally by: LUKEC
I've checked IRON's killboard this morning, and i was just: OMFG. Kinnda envy u.
Ya, too bad you haven't been there... thats the so called "Northern-alliance-defense-hug- club". Where was PA?
The only one fighting are G. Period, with some IRON here and there.
Tells everything about the north.
Mr wiseguy, i can say this only:
my efforts
Sorry, i know i suck. But i'm trying to do my best.
And yes, i still wish i was there. And very rarely(never?) i said no to fighting. Now go back mining something.
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Shivani
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Posted - 2005.08.28 11:54:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Darken Two
OMG I have seen the light.
Another half assed attempt to divide and conquer the north. It shows how strong the north is getting, when every thread about them, you have atleast 3-5 people stating how one part of teh north is doing more than the otehr and blah blah blah, in a lame attempt to get the northerners to fight eachother.
I can understand a response like that comming from an FE member, trying to calm the waves.
However, face the facts:
In the past *months* and the past conflicts, there has been very little to no participation from FE nor from PA in regards of defense of the north. Thats a fact and no denial will change it. Just look at the killboards and past battlereports.
One has to wonder, if FE is even in the position to participate to the defense of the north, regarding your very own problems atm...
So, this is not at all an attempt to "divide and conquer" the north, since it is not even nessecary to try. It's simply stating facts.
Facts are:
- The *only* fighting force in IMP space has been G.
- The *only* fighting force in G/IRON space have been G and IRON forces. (Lets neglect the 1 or 2 PA and FE pilots who went there for 4 minutes to have some fun, ok?)
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.08.28 12:03:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Shivani
Originally by: Darken Two
OMG I have seen the light.
Another half assed attempt to divide and conquer the north. It shows how strong the north is getting, when every thread about them, you have atleast 3-5 people stating how one part of teh north is doing more than the otehr and blah blah blah, in a lame attempt to get the northerners to fight eachother.
I can understand a response like that comming from an FE member, trying to calm the waves.
However, face the facts:
In the past *months* and the past conflicts, there has been very little to no participation from FE nor from PA in regards of defense of the north. Thats a fact and no denial will change it. Just look at the killboards and past battlereports.
One has to wonder, if FE is even in the position to participate to the defense of the north, regarding your very own problems atm...
So, this is not at all an attempt to "divide and conquer" the north, since it is not even nessecary to try. It's simply stating facts.
Facts are:
- The *only* fighting force in IMP space has been G.
- The *only* fighting force in G/IRON space have been G and IRON forces. (Lets neglect the 1 or 2 PA and FE pilots who went there for 4 minutes to have some fun, ok?)
Show your real face.
And btw. PA had 20-30 Atuk in their homelands yday, so they were occupied.
Your attempt to divide the north will lead to nowhere, especially now.
-G- Pink Power
Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game
Darko1107 > like pokemon |
Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.08.28 12:03:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Shivani
Originally by: Darken Two
OMG I have seen the light.
Another half assed attempt to divide and conquer the north. It shows how strong the north is getting, when every thread about them, you have atleast 3-5 people stating how one part of teh north is doing more than the otehr and blah blah blah, in a lame attempt to get the northerners to fight eachother.
I can understand a response like that comming from an FE member, trying to calm the waves.
However, face the facts:
In the past *months* and the past conflicts, there has been very little to no participation from FE nor from PA in regards of defense of the north. Thats a fact and no denial will change it. Just look at the killboards and past battlereports.
One has to wonder, if FE is even in the position to participate to the defense of the north, regarding your very own problems atm...
So, this is not at all an attempt to "divide and conquer" the north, since it is not even nessecary to try. It's simply stating facts.
Facts are:
- The *only* fighting force in IMP space has been G.
- The *only* fighting force in G/IRON space have been G and IRON forces. (Lets neglect the 1 or 2 PA and FE pilots who went there for 4 minutes to have some fun, ok?)
Why don't you ask Xirt if FE and PA have been helping or not? You have no facts to backup your torrent of bullcrap. Yes PA and FE might no have been part of last nights battle, but one battle does not make a war. Now go back to the alt-retirement home and stop bothering the rest of us.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Fred0
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Posted - 2005.08.28 12:07:00 -
[126]
OMG OMG. I wasn't there. Guess we'll have to relocate to Delve or something now because woody will boot me...
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Shivani
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Posted - 2005.08.28 12:12:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Darken Two
Why don't you ask Xirt if FE and PA have been helping or not?
I don't need to, i *KNOW* it being there.
Quote:
You have no facts to backup your torrent of bullcrap.
Killboards, Battlereports and my own eyes are enough facts.
Quote:
Yes PA and FE might no have been part of last nights battle, but one battle does not make a war.
So true, one battle does not make the war. Where have you been in the last WEEKS? G was fighting for IMP, where have you been, where was PA?
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
And btw. PA had 20-30 Atuk in their homelands yday, so they were occupied.
PA is occupied with Atuk invading their space since weeks? Thats indeed new to me. Go Atuk!
(Btw, this is my true face, ripping lies and myths apart for now and in the future.)
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.08.28 12:13:00 -
[128]
Edited by: Vince Draken on 28/08/2005 12:16:37
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Shivani
Edited by: Shivani on 28/08/2005 11:19:29
I don't understand your alliance ticker. You now working undercover for PA, kid?
What part of IRON != PA do you not understand?
So where was FE? Where was PA? Hehe, it's all a lame comedy.
stfu lame alt
Agreed!
Honestly, I wish ppl just wouldnt respond to alts. It's rather pointless as they cant lose credibily and only the real ppl can by taking the bait.
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Hellraiza666
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Posted - 2005.08.28 12:35:00 -
[129]
Originally by: FalloutBoy
Originally by: Bizarre
So when are you two jumping into eachother?
whenever the fleet in 7d grows some balls, we were here first so were not going to be the one jumping
rofl, ur the 1 who needs balls, you out number them, and have bubbles deployed, if they jump into you , your gona kill em be4 they load, which is sucky tactics,
im sorry but you outnumber them, u shud grow some and jump in
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Weeman
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Posted - 2005.08.28 12:35:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Weeman on 28/08/2005 12:35:50
As for the comment from darko that lag wasnt an issue - yes it was. If you cant tell you're being shot at then you cant warp out. Fact of the matter is i was in a pod 3-4 minutes before it showed i was (timestamp on the killmail) and theres nothing i could do to avoid my death.
If you logged that explains it because a couple of SE logged at planets when you all came in and once they finally got back in said the lag was much better. Fact of the matter is even at the planets it was almost impossible to do anything meaningful, let alone at the gate.
Im fed up of this one sided bull**** "ahh it wasnt lag we won we are teh pwnzor" - no we all lost tonight because we had a crap fight that in the grand scheme of things means sod all because everyone will get their stuff back. Less trolling = more fun for everyone. Edit** that comments aimed at darko :) before someone else starts smacking me
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Darken Two
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Originally by: Weeman
Edited by: Weeman on 28/08/2005 12:35:50
As for the comment from darko that lag wasnt an issue - yes it was. If you cant tell you're being shot at then you cant warp out. Fact of the matter is i was in a pod 3-4 minutes before it showed i was (timestamp on the killmail) and theres nothing i could do to avoid my death.
If you logged that explains it because a couple of SE logged at planets when you all came in and once they finally got back in said the lag was much better. Fact of the matter is even at the planets it was almost impossible to do anything meaningful, let alone at the gate.
Im fed up of this one sided bull**** "ahh it wasnt lag we won we are teh pwnzor" - no we all lost tonight because we had a crap fight that in the grand scheme of things means sod all because everyone will get their stuff back. Less trolling = more fun for everyone. Edit** that comments aimed at darko :) before someone else starts smacking me
Well you guys were flaming them for not jumping in while they were heavily outnumbered and you had bubbles. They did jump in and pwn you. Now you're complainin that you didnt get to kill them while they were lagged out.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Weeman
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Posted - 2005.08.28 12:47:00 -
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How about you actually read what i posted darken?
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.08.28 12:54:00 -
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hmm, havent FE been a little occupied themselves with hostiles entering their claimed space.....why are people (alts or whatever) flamin..oh..thats the whole point of alts, to flame heh, almost forgot!
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Weeman
How about you actually read what i posted darken?
I did read what you posted. You were complaining about lag and how noone won. Too bad you didnt ask some others in SE to shutup when they were askin IRON to grow some balls and jump in.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide
hmm, havent FE been a little occupied themselves with hostiles entering their claimed space.....why are people (alts or whatever) flamin..oh..thats the whole point of alts, to flame heh, almost forgot!
Nah... if flaming alt forgets about Fix... then there was no fix. If flaming alt forgets about KIA, FoE(not that they can do a thing really), KoS, BYDI... that was all aimed at F-E... but somehow F-E still is in tribute...
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:18:00 -
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Edited by: Darko1107 on 28/08/2005 13:19:01
Originally by: Weeman
Edited by: Weeman on 28/08/2005 12:35:50
As for the comment from darko that lag wasnt an issue - yes it was. If you cant tell you're being shot at then you cant warp out. Fact of the matter is i was in a pod 3-4 minutes before it showed i was (timestamp on the killmail) and theres nothing i could do to avoid my death.
If you logged that explains it because a couple of SE logged at planets when you all came in and once they finally got back in said the lag was much better. Fact of the matter is even at the planets it was almost impossible to do anything meaningful, let alone at the gate.
Im fed up of this one sided bull**** "ahh it wasnt lag we won we are teh pwnzor" - no we all lost tonight because we had a crap fight that in the grand scheme of things means sod all because everyone will get their stuff back. Less trolling = more fun for everyone. Edit** that comments aimed at darko :) before someone else starts smacking me
You lost due to very bad organisation, not to lag. We had people in pods that hadnt even been shot, or thats how it seems, we even killed 1 of our own, yet we still won. We jumped in on you, into YOUR bubbles and your nicely setup fleet. The lag was worse for us, so that would mean we die cos lag = why u died correct? No. You died cos u all just sat there saying "im lagged wtf ugh" where as we all logged back on at the same time and pwned the gate completey.
Also, you got every miner you could up there, half them probly didnt know what they were doing, and 1 apoc had hybrids on with heat sinks and gyrostabs fitted.
TBH, it seems as if stain thought "make a big blob and just hope it works".
Well, it doesnt work like that. You lost 3 bs's during the lag times, when it stopped lagging, u lost 22+.
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Weeman
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Weeman
How about you actually read what i posted darken?
I did read what you posted. You were complaining about lag and how noone won. Too bad you didnt ask some others in SE to shutup when they were askin IRON to grow some balls and jump in.
You cant control other people. Tbh you dont have a place in this discussion you werent there so kindly sod off. GODS used to be such a nice corp :(
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Weeman
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Weeman
How about you actually read what i posted darken?
I did read what you posted. You were complaining about lag and how noone won. Too bad you didnt ask some others in SE to shutup when they were askin IRON to grow some balls and jump in.
You cant control other people. Tbh you dont have a place in this discussion you werent there so kindly sod off. GODS used to be such a nice corp :(
I wasn't flaming you and I still am not. I just find it offensive that you say that you cannot reprimand your own alliance mate for flaming others while at the same time accusing others of flaming. I don't know you and I have no reason to flame you, just pointing out the facts.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:22:00 -
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hahah .. o wait this is why i cancelled my sub.. o well
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Weeman
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:22:00 -
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Darko stop being a tard and smacking the place about. Lag ruined the entire night even moving anywhere was absurd. Im not here to start saying "ohh look we killed one more frigate than you we win OMG WE'RE UBER PHEAR US!!11!" im trying to have a conversation about what happened the fact is the node was unplayable for SE. If IRON had a better time of it when you logged back on, ok great good for you. But stop chatting **** just to look good on the forums, it wont win you anything.
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PainBall
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:23:00 -
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Nice job iron. Keep it up. \0/ for dark0 :P
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Weeman
Darko stop being a tard and smacking the place about. Lag ruined the entire night even moving anywhere was absurd. Im not here to start saying "ohh look we killed one more frigate than you we win OMG WE'RE UBER PHEAR US!!11!" im trying to have a conversation about what happened the fact is the node was unplayable for SE. If IRON had a better time of it when you logged back on, ok great good for you. But stop chatting **** just to look good on the forums, it wont win you anything.
Its you thats smacking, look at your posts. Im posting facts. I dont see how iron could fly around fine and kill you, where as stain, who didnt even jump in, who sat at the gate more than 80k off, lagged out hard and lost 25 bs's purely cos of lag.
You lost like 10 at planet 3, u seemed to get there alright.
U also killed some of our bs's, so you cant have been that lagged out.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Weeman
Darko stop being a tard and smacking the place about. Lag ruined the entire night even moving anywhere was absurd. Im not here to start saying "ohh look we killed one more frigate than you we win OMG WE'RE UBER PHEAR US!!11!" im trying to have a conversation about what happened the fact is the node was unplayable for SE. If IRON had a better time of it when you logged back on, ok great good for you. But stop chatting **** just to look good on the forums, it wont win you anything.
Say teh same thing to falloutboy and you win teh gold medal. I think both sides should shutup and shoot easch otehr.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Crean NaVar
...[G] forces are back home.
I was gonna get you guys a home entertainment system for yz-lql, too.
booooo!
nice new sig, much better than that old matrix crap
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Kozak
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:46:00 -
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Bad organization?
Maybe we should post screen shots from more then half the fleet that saw only a few targets (when you had 80+ jump in) and they were all 999,999 kilometers away? If that is not lag, then you guys are as dumb as doorknobs.
Now, how can you target someone that EVE is telling you is 999,999 KM away but is also shooting you.
In the end it doesn't matter, because EVERYONE will get their stuff back. Maybe we can see each other in smaller fleet battle then talk about organization.
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Stonie001101
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:47:00 -
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Dont even try to claim lag wasnt the issue. Me and some other guy ended up chasing eachother 400km away from the battle, just orbiting and not being able to fire. modules not going off/on. then when all of a sudden i'm 10km from the bubbles. It took 1-2 minutes to give the ship commands. |
Gradinger
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:49:00 -
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first, props to IRON-GIMP for jumping...
then about the bringing a big blob and complaining about lag.. u know there are several reasons to bring it and we didnt go there to produce lag..
the last big fight i was in was COALITION-vs-FIX, at similar numbers but still not that much and we had lag but not THAT bad... so i see it also as SE and IRON/G/IMP testing CCP¦s equipment to the limit and i¦d like to see CCP thank us all for doing that!!!
further i think u, northern guys, had more experience with that kind of blob-fight, i guess cuz of ur fights with bob, and i think all of u loggin out and back in was what maybe reduced ur lag to some playable amount.. whereas our guys at the gate COULNDT kill all of u cuz locking and firing wasnt possible for the most part... i couldnt even see ANYBODY.. but im not complaining cuz as said i see it more like a test and all the produced scrap-metal on both sides make me laugh somehow ;)
a little side-note on my personal sight... i tried to relog.. took me about 15 minutes... missed most of the "fight".. but i was a planet3 when a fight occured.. got me on 2 or 3 killmails.. got primary... BUT somehow managed to escaped my shiny tempest with about 5% HULL... eww.. the first thought.. when CCP¦s OH-U-ESCAPED-I-LET-U-SLOWLY-DIE-feature kicked in.. me at a safe - shields recharge - BUT modules slowly turning of one by one - my tempest - my ship - it shivers - it¦s puking - "boarding ship" ... there it goes ... fun somehow but heavy to take ;)
and some numbers in the end.. saw 96killed in the last hour when i logged, think our losses where about 40 maybe 50 maybe more... quite even, maybe slight advantage for north. but i guess we see some "official" numbers soon...
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Darko1107 on 28/08/2005 13:52:47
Originally by: Kozak
Bad organization?
Maybe we should post screen shots from more then half the fleet that saw only a few targets (when you had 80+ jump in) and they were all 999,999 kilometers away? If that is not lag, then you guys are as dumb as doorknobs.
Now, how can you target someone that EVE is telling you is 999,999 KM away but is also shooting you.
In the end it doesn't matter, because EVERYONE will get their stuff back. Maybe we can see each other in smaller fleet battle then talk about organization.
Another 1 thats sees it from his side and his side only.
Stain seems to think we jumped in, loaded in a matter of seconds and just started callnig targets. Ofcourse.
Im sorry but when BoB did this in 4c- they lost like waht 10 bs? That was vrs 150 man blob. They lagged out and died. You lost 25, to a force jumping in on you, with the exact same numbers, and your blaming EVERY ONE OF THEM ON LAG.
10 on lag, fair enough, 25, no.
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Weeman
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:51:00 -
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Darko since you're not quite grasping the concept im not even going to bother anymore
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Gradinger
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Posted - 2005.08.28 13:52:00 -
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ah.. and forgot the worst part of it all anyway: forgot my bong in a taxi when getting home somehow after that fest... LOL
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PASTOR TROY
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Posted - 2005.08.28 14:00:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Gradinger
ah.. and forgot the worst part of it all anyway: forgot my bong in a taxi when getting home somehow after that fest... LOL
That truly is the worse part of the night. Maybe you could throw that in the petitions too. CCP lost Megathron and bong due to lag. Please replace
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.08.28 14:02:00 -
[152]
Originally by: ParMizaN
hahah .. o wait this is why i cancelled my sub.. o well
wtf!? your leaving? You cant do that parm. eve wont allow you.
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2005.08.28 14:14:00 -
[153]
Much anger I sense here....mMmmMmmM 
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.08.28 14:15:00 -
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Hmm... guys, those who were there know what happened, there's no need to get upset because some refuse to admit a defeat (some talking while they were not even there, like Shivani, probably still frustraded with XELAS being kicked out of their space).
Hell, the only fact that IRON jumped into the Stain bubbles is a victory in itself, and IRON defending G space, like G defends IRON space and like all northern corps/alliances defend each other's space, is another victory that shows the north is alive and kicking!
Some have been overconfident, they probably still live at the NSA age, and it hurts when they wake up
For my part, I only regret Stain deployed bubbles to take advantage of the lag, but besided that, it's always a pleasure to fight them, like we had outstanding fights (and behaviour) from MASS and Species during the Fade invasion.
As we all know, losing even 25 battleships means nothing, especially to Stain, so, let's keep it coming, smackfree
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.08.28 14:34:00 -
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So this is the third or fourth major fleet battle in the past month totally ruined by lag?
Based on personal experience there is little difference in lag these days for the side camping the gate or the side jumping through it, I've totally lagged out to client lock trying to do both recently.
There's something seriously messed up with the code around session changes and some serious optimisation is needed, at least Oveur and T20 were watching when we jumped into Imp/G in 4c-b7x recently so hopefully CCP are taking an interest, although it would be very nice indeed to get a response to tell us their thoughts on the subject.
To be honest if you're serious about getting a large scale fight the only solution at the moment is to allow your opponent into system with you and do not try to fight immediately following a jump in through a gate. It's almost a good thing that we have this lag to be honest because it'll clearly show who has confidence in their own abilities. The weaklings who know they cannot fight will continue to not let their opponent into system to allow a proper fight, those with skills and a good perspective on the game will.
As for lastnight's little love fest. Props to SE for moving all your people and coming out to play, props to G/Iron for jumping in and fighting.
All of you smacking about who killed what and who lost what in those circumstances are retarded.
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.08.28 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Darko1107 on 28/08/2005 14:53:06
Yeh CCP, just click the "Make everything Work" button. Lag ruined 10 mins of the night, the rest was a blast.
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Melchom
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Posted - 2005.08.28 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Gradinger
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: FalloutBoy
true our blob is smaller today but alot of our members are taking in the sites and experiencing sydacate
You are only camping PF-346!
You run at every opportunity from your sniping spots.
And your fleet is way bigger than ours. need i say more?
hehe... flaimbait or just bad intel, woodloose?
and if ur gang is that small why dont u just leave our new territory
Hi, new sheep
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.08.28 19:55:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Shivani
Edited by: Shivani on 28/08/2005 11:19:29
I don't understand your alliance ticker. You now working undercover for PA, kid?
What part of IRON != PA do you not understand?
So where was FE? Where was PA? Hehe, it's all a lame comedy.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.08.28 20:08:00 -
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geez, more potato throwing.
predictable tho, between the people that congratulate each other, there's always that rotten apple... or tomato... or potato even...
....kinda sad if you ask me
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DARKLING
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Posted - 2005.08.28 20:11:00 -
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Just wanted to say I had a blast, I even managed to watch most of 'The good the bad an the ugly' as we waited to jump in.
Lag was horrible but we've seen it many times over the months if not years we've played {ccp please do something about it, even if u allow fleet commanders to notify u in advance of large battles and u can do some magic with the servers for that initial jump in :) }
Log out , crash out ! or whatever and log in always nasty experiences and you never know if you still have a ship or a clone.
Despite that, the planet to planet and gate fighting after lag receded was fun.
As already stated earlier tho, if you want large blob fights and no lag {we can but dream}, then things like drones, bubbles etc do not ease the lag fest {leave em out}.
My little ship died eventually, but my pod survived, props to all, was a blast :)
See u all again soon.
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Posted - 2005.08.28 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Gradinger
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: FalloutBoy
true our blob is smaller today but alot of our members are taking in the sites and experiencing sydacate
You are only camping PF-346!
You run at every opportunity from your sniping spots.
And your fleet is way bigger than ours. need i say more?
hehe... flaimbait or just bad intel, woodloose?
and if ur gang is that small why dont u just leave our new territory
Neither Flambait nor bad intel, i was in pf local as u fled 4 times from our gang.
It was the saddest pvp moment ever for me.
-G- Pink Power
Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game
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Damith
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Posted - 2005.08.28 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
It was the saddest pvp moment ever for me.
Sorta like watching your fleets log on and off in both BKG and C4C to get quick ganks, which you ([G]) admitted to doing. You shouldnt be the one to talk about sad tactics.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.08.28 20:31:00 -
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Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 28/08/2005 20:37:12
Originally by: Damith
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
It was the saddest pvp moment ever for me.
Sorta like watching your fleets log on and off in both BKG and C4C to get quick ganks, which you ([G]) admitted to doing. You shouldnt be the one to talk about sad tactics.
1. EDIT: Sry just saw ingame it is ur main
2. that was ages ago and we learned from it
-G- Pink Power
Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2005.08.28 20:38:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Gradinger
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: FalloutBoy
true our blob is smaller today but alot of our members are taking in the sites and experiencing sydacate
You are only camping PF-346!
You run at every opportunity from your sniping spots.
And your fleet is way bigger than ours. need i say more?
hehe... flaimbait or just bad intel, woodloose?
and if ur gang is that small why dont u just leave our new territory
you dont want me to answer that, do you?
I think your plain funny to play with the "big guys" by throwing in numbers and you look even more stupid when you dont make use of that numbers.
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Posted - 2005.08.28 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Shivani
...with some IRON here and there.
Tells everything about the north.
You just don't have a clue do you?
It wasn't "SOME" of the IRON corporations here and there that where involved. It was all of IRON and it was the corporations like mine who are deklein residents and others who just support the North who where involved in this. One hundred and one in total at the peak of the night for our side when SE was at about one hundred forty to one hundred and fifty.
Who wasn't involved exaclty Shivani?
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Posted - 2005.08.28 21:48:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 28/08/2005 21:54:14
My conclusion ?
This tread is silly.
Why is it still here ?
SE, get a grip.
G, get a fleet
CCP, get a serverupgrade.
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Ethan Tomlinson
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Posted - 2005.08.28 21:50:00 -
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there goes the neighborhood....syndicate used to be a great place where everybody just pirated in small gangs and the real skilled pilots would come out and drink lemonade and stuff. but nope, cujo....errr SE had to try and take over the galaxy and turn it into a complete circus
/me dives for cover and moves his ships outa catch in preparation for the inevitable onslaught that will tear SE apart because they decided to make nme's with everybody in eve
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Orc A
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Posted - 2005.08.28 21:52:00 -
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Ok, ok
Smack is funny BEFORE the fight.
After the fight - it's plain pathetic, specially when it's coming from either of the alliance leaders.
I wasnt present as my brain shut down just about 20 mins before the fight, but come on, is this really nesseccery? flaming each other till theres nothing but ashes?
Rather sad, really.
To the SE smacker - STFU.
To the G/IRON smackers - Please STFU.
To the rest of the present - See you on the battlefield.
To CCP - FFS. Not adding another word.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2005.08.28 21:54:00 -
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Ethan - Make enemies with everyone in eve?
afaik we didnt attack anyone who we were hostile to to begin with.
For future posters: STFU if u dont got anything decent to say, and if u dont know all the facts - dont say anything.
Good'day.
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Kalened
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Posted - 2005.08.28 21:55:00 -
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Who really cares who was or wasnt involved? Enough were involved to win the fight and thats really all that matters. IRON made probably its strongest showing yet in its young existance. Deklein corps showed why they deserve to be in 0.0 and i think everyone up north is quite happy. I'm just happy Madboy is back! :P
Why bring in the reserves unnecessarily? The fact is some people like to live in the past and think that the North will self destruct which simply wont happen. Also dont underestimate Stain nor criticize their attempts this weekend. Much like the north learned from BoB last year Stain and Fountain might be learning some valuable lessons and come back stronger than they were previously. The game isnt necessarily who's the strongest now, sometimes to win the war you have to lose some battles. Just the fact that Stain got some of their miners in fighting ships and marched north is something they should be proud of. We in the North know how hard it can be LOL.
Props all around. Great job on all sides for different aspects. Too bad i couldnt be there for the fight :(
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Creed74
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Posted - 2005.08.28 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: Creed74 on 28/08/2005 22:15:45
Has anyone had there ship replaced yet for the Great north Lag?? Even to that mater has anyone had a response!!
Not happy about the lag was going to be a good fight!
To CCP thanks for moving my ship after I had been podded due to lag??? (Dont ask me how!!)
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Madboy
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Posted - 2005.08.28 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Creed74
Has anyone had there ship replaced yet for the Great north Lag?? Even to that mater has anyone had a response!!
Not happy about the lag was going to be a good fight!
Sadly, I have not recieved a response yet as to why my tempest appeared neutral to everyone including my corp mate who killed it or if I'am getting it back.
Come on CCP I could be using that ship RIGHT NOW!
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.08.28 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 28/08/2005 21:54:14
My conclusion ?
This tread is silly.
Why is it still here ?
SE, get a grip.
G, get a fleet
CCP, get a serverupgrade.
We did
I think all is sorted now...
-G- Pink Power
Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game
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Megan Ryder
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Posted - 2005.08.28 22:55:00 -
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owned again, for any SE left in Cloud Ring - Go Home
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.08.28 23:00:00 -
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ignoring the flames from both sides (idiots...)
Gf and all that other fun stuff, only reason ive been logging in the last 2-3 days is because of the stain forces running around over yonder...thanks :D.
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Khaerie
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Posted - 2005.08.28 23:56:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Darko1107
Originally by: Orc A
no, we are talking about the same Stain Empire who today set 2 new records: Largest gang ever in eve, and fastest station take.
Stfu alts.
g'day.
Dream on. The [5] had like a 400 man gang when they first formed going into curse.
Hmmm...now here in Texas, that's called a tall tale. The numbers was also in the 200 - 300 range.
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Elenor
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Posted - 2005.08.29 01:46:00 -
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So ignoring all flames
This is just a personal Oppionion and a sitrep for all the intrested ppl.
Ok Stain started the invasion Saturday had about 200ppl and a freighter.
They got up to G8AD and took the station. At this time iron formed a group and G gattherd, but as u all know it has been quit late and most of us where in Foutain or Outer Ring so G had not many pilot so the majoretie of the Group has been Iron and Deklein residents. First we had a mexican Standoff but more and more Stain logged and in the middle of the night Iron decided to jump in. We Jumped in had hard lag attack, so we logged and logged back in at this time i had no major lag. It was sure not fluent Gameplay but it was ok with 180+ in the local.
We killed some Stain, and ganked more BS at Planets, Gates the sun and so one, refer to iron killboard for kills and losses.
Stain Complaind in the local about lag issue, but where is the point when u come up with a 200 men group and complain about lag.
After dealing with Stain Iron and Friends got back the G8AD Station and gave it back to G, we anchord some poses and cleard out or mistake with the Claim. During that the Gang did attack the Pos of Stain.
Sunday
After DT the Stain pos has been downed, and G and Iron did gank some BS and Support. When i got online Stain and G has some "warping away" games going on in pf-346, we did warp Stain did warp. We killed some, they killed some.
At that point i took the comand of the Feet and moved back a few jumps direction XZH-4x, I did this cause i wanted to give Stain the oppertuniy to merge the two fleets, some struglers got back from G8AD where they did proabbly log. They did an hour later. So I did decide that its Stain turn to jump, just as a friend of Fairplay, at this time Stain had a bigger Force.
But we waited quit long, then i decided to move back a few jumps more. Cause the Stain group did grew and grew and they had much more support then we had. I waited four jumps out of XZH-4x, the fleet took position again and Stain did do nothing. At this time we managed to gank some support. Then Iron did arrive with round about 60ppl. We jumped in .
Stain warped to a SS and quikly changd those, but a covert maneaged to find their BS at a SS, at the this SS we did kill at least 6 BS and some support. Same as yesterday Stain Fleet warped planet to planet and our Support did kill some more at the Planets and the Gate. Stain did kill no G BS at this SS and after the following fights.
After this fleet the G and IRON Fleet did move out. We did send some ganker fleets that managed to kill some more BS and Support with some losses, cause those are moving without BMs through enemie space.
This is kind of what happend this weekend, iam not quit sure about all the numbers but it should be pretty close to be right.
Some notes to add
Stain did invade the Space and within two night we got u out again. Most Stain Pilots should be in Orvolle or already back in Stain Space via "podair". Some Stain pilots even thanked us for gettin podded.
Next time dont post about invanding an empy space while the Alliance is not at home. And shooting a station is no big deal.
And last but not least do not complain about lag when u bring 200 ppl.
In the end of this sitrep i would like to thank Iron and the deklein residents who did help us out so much. Its an honor to have some good friends that are helping us out when we needed ur help.
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Posted - 2005.08.29 02:52:00 -
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Edited by: shivan on 29/08/2005 02:53:24
Originally by: DoaKillmore
Well as laggy as the battle went I must say that dofa is very impressed with irons ability in battle we hope to strive to keep pace and enjoy the successes reaped from battle. As for the battle darko kept strict ts rules, and discipline. And shivani/shivan just cause you donated a billion isk and it got flushed don't be mad :). It was very enjoyable can we schedule another one??
shivani isnt my alt, I think ive proved here i dont post with alts and for the record, yes judus is my alt who is also in the same corp as me, and also wasnt my POS, someone gave it to me.
and how can a small tower with a weeks worth of fuel with a total of 8 guns and a warp disrution thingy come to a bill?
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Posted - 2005.08.29 03:36:00 -
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Quote:
In the end of this sitrep i would like to thank Iron and the deklein residents who did help us out so much. Its an honor to have some good friends that are helping us out when we needed ur help.
Good accurate summary, and it was good to be there
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Gibri
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Posted - 2005.08.29 04:37:00 -
[180]
Edited by: Gibri on 29/08/2005 04:40:48
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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.08.29 06:29:00 -
[181]
Anybody else eagerly awaiting the formation of the Gimp Alliance?
Originally by: Idio T
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BOldMan
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Posted - 2005.08.29 07:32:00 -
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The summary look bad for SE. Whatever, it is the only summary presented until now.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.29 07:41:00 -
[183]
the major encounters I agree have been on the g/iron side but its not as scewed as they would like to make it. the fact is though that we are killing alot of gimp pilots. and if you take all the kills for both sides over the weekend its prolly pretty damn even.
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Gradinger
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Posted - 2005.08.29 08:16:00 -
[184]
let me correct a few things elenor:
invasion? i mean we come with 200ppl, a freighter, pos and ****, u r right, but i dont think its a real invasion its just standard equip nowadays ;) (but im no politician so dunno.. my goal is to have fun and kill some)
about yesterday.. no u didnt let us merge our fleets, but who cares...
and u had 100 against our 65.. just wanted to add this
and congrats that u could mobilize some miners from ur backyard, u did it quite fast..
we know what its like to be on either side of such a war and i look forward to have some nice fights in the next weeks :)
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Acwron
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Posted - 2005.08.29 08:22:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Gradinger
[...]and u had 100 against our 65.. just wanted to add this
and congrats that u could mobilize some miners from ur backyard, u did it quite fast..
we know what its like to be on either side of such a war and i look forward to have some nice fights in the next weeks :)
Yes after Iron arrived you were outnumbered and got safespot busted but still during all the time before you outnumbered G 2:1 you didn't jump into us.
It's not our fault if you can't decide to fight when you have the advantage in numbers.
And for the scores. Well to say it was pretty even make you look pretty stupid. But I guess that doesn't change much after Species 5618 talked Stain into this fruitless trip.
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Gradinger
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Posted - 2005.08.29 08:56:00 -
[186]
who said something about even about yesterday? why are you using bad rethoric to say we are "stupid".. :(
i hear a lot of cheap propaganda from g/iron and some funny flaimbaits from woodloose ;)
and no we didnt outnumber you, but i guess all your miners need some justification and some good reasons to put their mining-lasers away, dont they? ;)
haha.. and species talking stain into somethin... nice try.. haha
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Ramireza
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Posted - 2005.08.29 09:13:00 -
[187]
Edited by: Ramireza on 29/08/2005 09:14:11
Originally by: FalloutBoy
the fact is though that we are killing alot of gimp pilots. and if you take all the kills for both sides over the weekend its prolly pretty damn even.
ridiculous
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Melchom
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Posted - 2005.08.29 10:57:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Gradinger
Edited by: Gradinger on 29/08/2005 09:03:34
who said something about even about yesterday? why are you using bad rethoric to say we are "stupid".. :(
i hear a lot of cheap propaganda from g/iron and some funny flamebaits from woodloose ;)
and no we didnt outnumber you, but i guess all your miners need some justification and some good reasons to put their mining-lasers away, dont they? ;)
haha.. and species talking stain into somethin... nice try.. haha
edit: typo
nobody is stupid :)
but i think you know now that move a blob from south to north is not all.
and yes woody makes to much propaganda for WoW
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.08.29 11:10:00 -
[189]
lag was bad yesterday, disarm and make peace, so others can have fun without freezing everytime we activate a gun.
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Zhav
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Posted - 2005.08.29 12:30:00 -
[190]
Originally by: FalloutBoy
the major encounters I agree have been on the g/iron side but its not as scewed as they would like to make it. the fact is though that we are killing alot of gimp pilots. and if you take all the kills for both sides over the weekend its prolly pretty damn even.
In all the wars in the history of EVE both sides exaggerated their achievements. But this one is so way off, the Iraqi Information Ministers head would randomly implode, if he would hear this. Just poof. Head maimed.
Case closed.
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Posted - 2005.08.29 12:32:00 -
[191]
GF IRON 4TW
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.08.29 13:15:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Zhav
Originally by: FalloutBoy
the major encounters I agree have been on the g/iron side but its not as scewed as they would like to make it. the fact is though that we are killing alot of gimp pilots. and if you take all the kills for both sides over the weekend its prolly pretty damn even.
In all the wars in the history of EVE both sides exaggerated their achievements. But this one is so way off, the Iraqi Information Ministers head would randomly implode, if he would hear this. Just poof. Head maimed.
Case closed.
great reply !
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Crean NaVar
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Posted - 2005.08.29 15:01:00 -
[193]
Originally by: FalloutBoy
the major encounters I agree have been on the g/iron side but its not as scewed as they would like to make it. the fact is though that we are killing alot of gimp pilots. and if you take all the kills for both sides over the weekend its prolly pretty damn even.
Incredible statement. Really. I mean everyone can just look up the numbers on the IRON and Stain killboards ( G¦s is still not public, but i can assure you it looks similar to IRON¦s ), and you still have the nerve to post such a blatant lie on a public forum. Unbelievable.
This statement:
Quote:
and no we didnt outnumber you, but i guess all your miners need some justification and some good reasons to put their mining-lasers away, dont they? ;)
of your alliance mate Gradinger tells a lot about this little war you started there. You have absolutely no clue who you are up against. Ignorance can be a bless sometimes, this time it kicks your a**.
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Elenor
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Posted - 2005.08.29 15:59:00 -
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I gave u the Oppertunity if u did not manage to do so its just again ur fault. Cause i did move the fleet through the system where some of ur ppl where left behind. And if ur fleet comander does not manage to merge two groups I would realy think about fire him. Cause most of ur losses are mostly bassed on bad decissions and a lag of communication.
About even, I hope ur not realy beliving this. I would like to show what u did lost and killed, the information is as always pretty close to be correct, and plz dont even think about calling me a liar.
Cruiser G lost 4 Stain lost 10
Ceptors G lost 8 Stain lost 6
Battleships G lost 1 Stain Lost 21
Assault Frigs G lost 3 Stain lost 2
T1 Frigate G Lost 7 Stain lost 5
Destroyer G lost none Stain lost 1
Battlecruiser G lost 0 Stain lost 6
Heavy Assault G lost 0 Stain lost 3
And now I dont think we are that close to even. Of course there could be some loses missiong from G but, Iam not refering to the IRON Board. Those are just the kills in which G has been involved. And most of the time we manage to crap the loot
About the other nonseens, why are u taking a station without doing an invasion. Anyway u did come up here and we did kill u pretty good. And if u would know something about miners u should know that G doenst have any Miners, we are a PVP Alliance.
In a nutshell, Stain did came, Iron and G had a good time killing Stain a whole weekend.
gf cu today in space, when we are done with that bs about being even.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.29 16:39:00 -
[195]
well considering in pod kills alone since saturday were well over 70 I think those numbers are a bit off. I haven't even botherd looking at ship kills yet (our killboard has no nice stats setup)
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.08.29 16:40:00 -
[196]
Originally by: boogie ace
GF IRON 4TW
fkn iron fgt noob, npc.
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Gradinger
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Posted - 2005.08.29 17:02:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Crean NaVar
This statement:
Quote:
and no we didnt outnumber you, but i guess all your miners need some justification and some good reasons to put their mining-lasers away, dont they? ;)
of your alliance mate Gradinger tells a lot about this little war you started there. You have absolutely no clue who you are up against. Ignorance can be a bless sometimes, this time it kicks your a**.
thx for catching the stick...
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Naverin
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Posted - 2005.08.29 17:18:00 -
[198]
My petition for my ship back due to the jump in lag has been denied... =(
Anyone hear back from your petitions in your favor?. Gonna be quite upsetting if no ones getting anything back after the lag that innital fight caused :/
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.08.29 17:22:00 -
[199]
Originally by: FalloutBoy
the major encounters I agree have been on the g/iron side but its not as scewed as they would like to make it. the fact is though that we are killing alot of gimp pilots. and if you take all the kills for both sides over the weekend its prolly pretty damn even.
Stain has killed one single G BS this far, Checky's Scorpion.
I wont comment how many BS on yor side died, i want to avoid flames.
Dont know how many IMP u killed, but we are different alliances that are allied, to each other, still both are seperate entities.
Thanks.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.08.29 17:50:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Naverin
My petition for my ship back due to the jump in lag has been denied... =(
Anyone hear back from your petitions in your favor?. Gonna be quite upsetting if no ones getting anything back after the lag that innital fight caused :/
Why should you get your ship back?
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Posted - 2005.08.29 17:59:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Naverin
My petition for my ship back due to the jump in lag has been denied... =(
Anyone hear back from your petitions in your favor?. Gonna be quite upsetting if no ones getting anything back after the lag that innital fight caused :/
Why should you get your ship back?
Cause his ships showed up the overview as "Tempest" there was no name and nothing showed him as the pilot from iron.
Stain Guys if u have killed something dont mention the neutral Miners and Carebears in the area. Mention us and IRON as ur Enemies. Cuase 100km from the gate with tacklers at gate cmaping the Orvolle Gate in PF its pretty easy to kill a hauler.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.29 18:19:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Naverin
My petition for my ship back due to the jump in lag has been denied... =(
Anyone hear back from your petitions in your favor?. Gonna be quite upsetting if no ones getting anything back after the lag that innital fight caused :/
Why should you get your ship back?
don't know about what happend with Naverin, but when the battle started, I laged out and found myself in a auto safe do to lagout. I then promply warped to a safe spot I made and it did actually warp. after not being able to do anything I loged in that spot. this was at 1:30 when I loged back to charcter screen about 5min later my ship was still allive. when I came l8r tha evening to log in my ship was dead at 1:46 according to my kill mail well over 15min after I loged out and considering I never fired at anything since about 1:26 according to my logs, my pvp timer shoulddn't of been an issue anywat
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2005.08.29 18:37:00 -
[203]
Do not post peitions in the forums.
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Creed74
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Posted - 2005.08.29 18:58:00 -
[204]
Sorry My error.
I have a simple question if no lag how come I got moved 8 mins after I was podded?
This suggest to me there was lag!
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Zubenelgenubi
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Posted - 2005.08.29 19:49:00 -
[205]
Isn't there a rule somewhere about not posting killmails?
no need to rip the **** outa the guy. Maybe he just got in a BS or something. GJ to him for doing the tons of jumps and taking part.
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Riddlock
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Posted - 2005.08.29 19:53:00 -
[206]
why so much flames ...
people who participate to that fight .. all knows there was a very bad lag the entire time .. you cant claim pwnage or skills in that situation .
the fight is on eve space not on forums ..
good luck and see ya around g / imp / iron , i hope we will get some great fights and we will enjoy our encounters .
less smack more fight ftw ! :0
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Kalened
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:00:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Zubenelgenubi
Isn't there a rule somewhere about not posting killmails?
no need to rip the **** outa the guy. Maybe he just got in a BS or something. GJ to him for doing the tons of jumps and taking part.
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:01:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Zubenelgenubi
Isn't there a rule somewhere about not posting killmails?
no need to rip the **** outa the guy. Maybe he just got in a BS or something. GJ to him for doing the tons of jumps and taking part.
Why yes there is. And those posts exemplify exactly why such a rule is in place.
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:03:00 -
[209]
Forgot about that rule...
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2005.08.29 20:07:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Imran
Forgot about that rule...
Understood.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.08.29 22:16:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Elenor
Cruiser G lost 4 Stain lost 10
Ceptors G lost 8 Stain lost 6
Battleships G lost 1 Stain Lost 21
Assault Frigs G lost 3 Stain lost 2
T1 Frigate G Lost 7 Stain lost 5
Destroyer G lost none Stain lost 1
Battlecruiser G lost 0 Stain lost 6
Heavy Assault G lost 0 Stain lost 3
now thats a pwning
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Nac MacFeegle
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Posted - 2005.08.29 22:28:00 -
[212]
Originally by: MAXSuicide
now thats a pwning
Looks more like complete *******s numbers to me. You aren't going to get any independent third-party verification on kill stats in EVE...
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Posted - 2005.08.29 22:33:00 -
[213]
Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 29/08/2005 22:38:07
Originally by: Nac MacFeegle
Originally by: MAXSuicide
now thats a pwning
Looks more like complete *******s numbers to me. You aren't going to get any independent third-party verification on kill stats in EVE...
No they are not. You have to diverse G from IMP.
And the best way to get 99% accurate is to look up the kills on ur killboard and the kills on the enemy one. Ours is not public though, so u can only verify ur total G kills. and it shows just one bs.
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Posted - 2005.08.29 22:59:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Nac MacFeegle
Originally by: MAXSuicide
now thats a pwning
Looks more like complete *******s numbers to me. You aren't going to get any independent third-party verification on kill stats in EVE...
if u would heave raed my post carefully this are only the kills/loses between G and Stain, its no IMP no iron. Just u vs us. And these are the numbers, if u have a kill of a BS that is no checky in a scorpion then let me knwo ill be glad to add this.
Feel free to get in touch with me and we can easly compare the kills and loses.
but so far i think Max did say it all
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.08.29 23:07:00 -
[215]
I wont say any figures, but iron - Stain kills/losses is nowhere near even.
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Rosie Palm
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Posted - 2005.08.30 06:52:00 -
[216]
those figures are pretty close to the truth, the lag was a huge factor in the kills but G & Iron reacted better to it than SE, its a learning process & the fight continues.
Also on another note ive heard a rumour that the GM's are saying the SE fleet lied & there was no lag in that region at all, even G & Iron never went that far ffs.
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EvilSyKOSkitzo
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Posted - 2005.08.30 08:49:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Rosie Palm
...Also on another note ive heard a rumour that the GM's are saying the SE fleet lied & there was no lag in that region at all, even G & Iron never went that far ffs.
Are you serious?
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Gradinger
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Posted - 2005.08.30 08:57:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
You have to diverse G from IMP.
? why the f*** should we do that? when a G/IMP/IRON-fleet jumps on to us why should we distinguish - just so ur numbers look better?.. nah thx
main thing for me is its not blue, u know..
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.08.30 09:14:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Rosie Palm
there was no lag in that region at all
Ahahahahaha!
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Posted - 2005.08.30 10:04:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Gradinger
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
You have to diverse G from IMP.
? why the f*** should we do that? when a G/IMP/IRON-fleet jumps on to us why should we distinguish - just so ur numbers look better?.. nah thx
main thing for me is its not blue, u know..
If we bring in IRON our numbers look faaaaaar better
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Posted - 2005.08.30 12:11:00 -
[221]
There was a ton of lag on both sides. Both sides were also having trouble locking, it appears that The Northern Fleet did happen to have lucky golden horseshoes stamped on their feet before jumping into the hellish lagfest over the weekend.
A fraps link, albeit a bit big, thankies to Mr Cue, shows the non-ability to lock was occurring everywhere.
http://www.battleclinic.com/forum/index.php/topic,2851.0.html
More stats links.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/combat_reports.php?id=1
Kinda sucks that it wasn't more fair, but props to everyone involved. Blob fights suck but are fun. Obviously they wouldn't keep happening if they weren't.
Shivan *muah* : )
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Naverin
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Posted - 2005.08.30 16:22:00 -
[222]
GM's are still telling me there were 0 Server problems that night.. and the Lag Every one of us who were there experienced are making it up...
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.30 16:44:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Naverin
GM's are still telling me there were 0 Server problems that night.. and the Lag Every one of us who were there experienced are making it up...
I agree I got the same responce this morning, this a a crock of crap. they are calling the 200 people who were in this battle liers, granted some had more lag than others (which makes my point that the fight wasn't fare to begin with). I have no prolbem getting my ass handed to me in a fight, but I want to fight it, not get lagged out along with my whole fleet and be picked off one by one the lucky few that weren't laged as bad.
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Posted - 2005.08.30 18:32:00 -
[224]
Road trips 4tw!
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.08.30 23:17:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Naverin
GM's are still telling me there were 0 Server problems that night.. and the Lag Every one of us who were there experienced are making it up...
Thats really, really surprising to me. I was in the neighboursystem of the mainfight, fighting a smaller SE gang.
The lag was even worse than in V7-MID, i couldnt do anything at a certain point
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.08.31 00:47:00 -
[226]
new plan everyone. lets screw the North verse South thing and all invade Jove and give ccp a good reaming
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Gyro DuAquin1
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Posted - 2005.08.31 00:54:00 -
[227]
Originally by: FalloutBoy
new plan everyone. lets screw the North verse South thing and all invade Jove and give ccp a good reaming
where do we meet?
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Posted - 2005.08.31 02:27:00 -
[228]
Originally by: FalloutBoy
new plan everyone. lets screw the North verse South thing and all invade Jove and give ccp a good reaming
Word
Looks like you got another GM's that a fulltime agent runner in Rens with his Eve character. It's a wonder they got no clue about most of 'their' game.
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Azeusus
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Posted - 2005.08.31 03:16:00 -
[229]
Originally by: FalloutBoy
new plan everyone. lets screw the North verse South thing and all invade Jove and give ccp a good reaming
finally. Genious is amongst us! All form up in Jita, lets go ream joves! ...... anyone got lube?
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Kalened
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Posted - 2005.08.31 03:38:00 -
[230]
Yeah i'm sure the site of watching SE run to a safespot would send CCP running in terror.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2005.08.31 07:56:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Kalened
Yeah i'm sure the site of watching SE run to a safespot would send CCP running in terror.
Never ceases to amaze me that what was becoming an upbeat thread is suddenly brought crashing down by this kind of rhetoric.
It's a game man, stop whining, sometimes you SS, sometimes the bad guys SS, live with it, very few are Uber enough to solo a fleet, my guess is you ain't.
Grim out.
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Buddrow
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Posted - 2005.08.31 08:33:00 -
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Kal, pump your breaks man
that is crud that the GM's are treating some folks who lost there battleships that night like this, i will say that those who lost it at the gate battle should be reimbursed, those who died at the planet knew what they were doing, i was the forward scout and i got shot by lots of peeps, so that was fine... but no server problems...... wtf are they on, it was 5 mins loading and then i had to log and load another 5 mins before i could do ANYTHING.
but none the less we can do nothing, ccp have not handled this properly, which is sad.
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Posted - 2005.08.31 10:02:00 -
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i agree buddrow.. i got killed at the planet and there was some lag but was ok for me so i dont want any money back from ccp - u guys were close and i was lucky enuff not to be tackled but unlucky enuff to come out with 4% hull.. whatever, who cares
everybody killed at the gate should be reimbursed - but for me it looks like CCP DOESNT CARE AT ALL - in fact after each fight that problematic CCP SHOULD BE SO KIND SO GET ONE GM UP ON THE STAGE AND PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE TO THE PAYING PLAYERS! (and most prolly it would result in many questions and flames, but gm¦s dont need to answer them, so...)
but they always keep quiet and not even give a statement through a mod - that¦s the main thing that ****es me off about CCP.
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.08.31 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Naverin
My petition for my ship back due to the jump in lag has been denied... =(
Anyone hear back from your petitions in your favor?. Gonna be quite upsetting if no ones getting anything back after the lag that innital fight caused :/
So, you choose to form up a quantity of pilots that you know from previous experience the servers do not handle properly. You then jump them all in, when you know fleet jumping in on fleet is the worst thing you can do to the server. And now you're complaining that the predictable happened and the server didn't cope very well?
If this was some unexpected occurance, or genuine bug, then I'd support you. But as far as I'm concerned, the entire problem was self-inflicted, and you should bear the consequence yourself.
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.08.31 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: Gradinger
but for me it looks like CCP DOESNT CARE AT ALL - in fact after each fight that problematic CCP SHOULD BE SO KIND SO GET ONE GM UP ON THE STAGE AND PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE TO THE PAYING PLAYERS! (and most prolly it would result in many questions and flames, but gm¦s dont need to answer them, so...)
How about CCP not caring about the impact your fleet battles have on the rest of the server? How about you stepping up and publically apologising for a fleet action that you knew was going to give the server serious problems?
But by all means keep shouting. Maybe you'll wake them up far enough to remember EULA Section 7.A.1 and start issuing warnings.
Originally by: EULA Section 7.A.1
You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.
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Naverin
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Posted - 2005.08.31 10:18:00 -
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Real shame here... yes we knew there would be lag... but one can only hope you might have control of your ship and be managable... this was Game freezing lag.. not just slow responce times..
Sad thing is.. CCP is telling me in my petitions.. the server was just fine.. and its capable of handling Any events and that its My fault..
Yet Im running an Amd 3500, 2 gigs of ram, radeon 9800 pro 256, 10k rpm raptor HD, and a Cable connection... but yeah... clearly the problem Lies on me for the lag that seemling appeared when the 80 ships jumped in..
For all its worth... I say SE and G call a Cease fire for a few days.. Get a few hundred pilots and roam around cloud ring just jumping into each others fleet to crash the server.. Make the game unplayable for everyone till they Realize their server has problems and To start treating the people who play with some respect Not just "Sorry We have no logs of any problems at all, Its probably just your computer couldnt handle it" lines..
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Gradinger
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Posted - 2005.08.31 10:31:00 -
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matthew.. im not complaining or whining.. it was fair fight concerning that we all got the same client and the same server.. but i said it earlier, we had similar fleet in the fix-coal-war and not that much lag so we didnt expect it and G/IRON jumped onto us so u can also say they caused the lag.. whatever..
i mean i¦d just like to see a news-post someday where CCP says something like: "we UPGRADED our servers/equipment by another xxx to blah blah..." (esp. thinking about the rumour they broke even a year ago - so maybe time to invest some more rather then flying to ibiza?)
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.08.31 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Naverin
Real shame here... yes we knew there would be lag... but one can only hope you might have control of your ship and be managable... this was Game freezing lag.. not just slow responce times..
Yet the accounts I'm hearing are no worse than the last time a fleet action like this was tried. Or the time before that. Or the one before that. This outcome was entirely predictable.
Originally by: Naverin
Sad thing is.. CCP is telling me in my petitions.. the server was just fine.. and its capable of handling Any events and that its My fault..
I agree that if the Devs genuinely didn't notice the problem, then there are issues that need looking at in their server monitoring. But bear in mind that the GM's are not the Devs. They have a different toolset, and can see different things. From a simple event log, massive lag events will not be obvious. You need a proper server load log for that. Unless the Devs have issued a specific notification to the GMs about a server-load event, the GM's won't know about it. The Dev's probably saw what was happening and decided to do nothing as they figured these experienced alliance people knew what they were doing to themselves and didn't feel it worth bothering the GM team with.
Originally by: Naverin
For all its worth... I say SE and G call a Cease fire for a few days.. Get a few hundred pilots and roam around cloud ring just jumping into each others fleet to crash the server.. Make the game unplayable for everyone till they Realize their server has problems and To start treating the people who play with some respect Not just "Sorry We have no logs of any problems at all, Its probably just your computer couldnt handle it" lines..
Feel free to do that. If you cause enough disruption to actually warrant attention, you're more likely to earn the ban stick than anything else.
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.08.31 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Gradinger
matthew.. im not complaining or whining.. it was fair fight concerning that we all got the same client and the same server.. but i said it earlier, we had similar fleet in the fix-coal-war and not that much lag so we didnt expect it and G/IRON jumped onto us so u can also say they caused the lag.. whatever..
Fair enough if you weren't expecting it quite that bad, extra fleets jumped in etc. But I would still have thought crippling lag was a hazard that could be reasonably anticipated, and a risk you accepted in such large engagements. Sure, it would be great if the server could handle it easily, but we all know the reality is otherwise, even if it does cope better sometimes than others.
Originally by: Gradinger
i mean i¦d just like to see a news-post someday where CCP says something like: "we UPGRADED our servers/equipment by another xxx to blah blah..." (esp. thinking about the rumour they broke even a year ago - so maybe time to invest some more rather then flying to ibiza?)
They actually seem to be upgrading and expanding the server incrementally on a regular basis, and just don't see the point spamming out a news item every time they plug in another node. Unfortunately, there is a limit to what even hardware upgrades can do for the fleet lag problem. I've gone into the technical detail more in the general discussion thread, but basically the load from fleet battles scale with the square of the number of people involved. So to double the size of fleet battle that can be handled (and thus allow the sort of engagements you are trying without significant lag), you'd need to upgrade to server nodes 4 times as fast as we currently have. The technology for that simply isn't avaliable at the price points that are viable at our current subscription rates.
We'd all (including the Devs) love it if the Dev's had a magic wand they could wave and make the server cope with anything. Unfortunately, however far modern technology has come, there are still limits that we have to live with, at least until the next wave of development makes it out of the labs and into the fabs.
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Creed74
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Posted - 2005.08.31 11:29:00 -
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Right nice and simple request:
CAN WE HAVE A DEV COME ON THE FORUM AND POST, THAT THEY HAD NO LAG!!
I would also like to understand my question of being moved 8 mins after being podded.
I also agree we should try the all jump into 1 system again and crash eve! Then let them say no lag while we all petition them to hell!!
MMMMMMM 200+ petitions might take longer than 48hrs to get back to me though.
On a small note I lost about only 90mil in ship and stuff and am happy to take loss if I could have locked or even warped out.
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EVE GODDESS
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Posted - 2005.08.31 11:35:00 -
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Just been checking out Stains Killboards, They have very very few losses.
Does this mean they are uber and kicking ass?
Or do they not post losses?
www.stainempire.org
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Bratzo
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Posted - 2005.08.31 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: EVE GODDESS
Just been checking out Stains Killboards, They have very very few losses.
Does this mean they are uber and kicking ass?
Or do they not post losses?
www.stainempire.org
If you dont know how things are going, you're not involved and shouldn't care.
Keep killboards, statistics and what not out of this
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viper adt
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Posted - 2005.08.31 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: EVE GODDESS
Just been checking out Stains Killboards, They have very very few losses.
Does this mean they are uber and kicking ass?
Or do they not post losses?
www.stainempire.org
Dont want this to turn into a flame fest but after checking our allies killboards, they are 100% deffinatley not posting their losses.
"This post is and has no bearing on Imperium's views! it is only my viewpoint and should not be taken as anything said by my alliance." |
Gradinger
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Posted - 2005.08.31 14:13:00 -
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Edited by: Gradinger on 31/08/2005 14:14:54
yeye guys cool down.. it¦s called a "KILL-LIST" and most of our guys are not posting their losses, true.. our losses are coloured RED btw.. look for our losses at the enemies boards
BUT i think it¦s time to turn this thread into a flamefest so i just add this little fact: kills for SE in the last 3 days (in the north): 300+ (mostly small crap - admitted)
edit: this includes PODS.. so not "real" kills :)
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IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2005.08.31 14:21:00 -
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Noone is winning, period.
This a fight of who lasts the longer and who has more fun.
Fun ends, fighting ends.
Enough with killboards etc, when your alliance chat becomes constant whining and corps start leaving alliance, then good sirs, you start loosing.
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Sariyah
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Posted - 2005.08.31 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Naverin
For all its worth... I say SE and G call a Cease fire for a few days.. Get a few hundred pilots and roam around cloud ring just jumping into each others fleet to crash the server.. Make the game unplayable for everyone till they Realize their server has problems and To start treating the people who play with some respect Not just "Sorry We have no logs of any problems at all, Its probably just your computer couldnt handle it" lines..
Hmm. What about getting a 400 ppl fleet in n00b ships jumping around empire? Like visiting a few systems where people are doing trades/missions, Yulai, Oursulaert, Rens, Pator, and whatnot. Not very likely that something like this would happen, but I'd be more than happy to join this, it would be pretty much fun seeing all the empire people wondering and whining how we lag them out as we warp to a station or something.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2005.08.31 15:11:00 -
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in short - We need to make the problem big enough for ccp tot ake action.
I've seen yulai very crowded at times, how bout pulling the plug on the empire carebears for the weekend so we can fight normally? :p
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.08.31 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Orc A
in short - We need to make the problem big enough for ccp tot ake action.
I've seen yulai very crowded at times, how bout pulling the plug on the empire carebears for the weekend so we can fight normally? :p
You haven't got the "one-system, one-node" message yet, have you? No matter how low the load on the system as a whole, that fleet battle can only use the capability of a single node. Whether the other 54 are busy or empty is irrelevant.
Besides, empire carebears are much more server-friendly, as even if they are crammed in the same system, they generally sit in different grids.
By the way, those of you wanting a dev response to the issue of fleet battle lag, Here it is
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Xendie
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Posted - 2005.08.31 16:29:00 -
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perhaps its starting to be the time where CCP will be forced to set up a second shard.
because this one is not capable of what the people want to do on it.
i just dont see how the server are going to cope with the upcoming asian macro invasion
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Stuu
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Posted - 2005.08.31 20:05:00 -
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So then can we set a date and time for Noob fleet invasion to the heart of CCP.
I would love to do it!
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.09.01 08:42:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Xendie
perhaps its starting to be the time where CCP will be forced to set up a second shard.
because this one is not capable of what the people want to do on it.
Again, setting up a second shard won't help. Fleet battles are not limited by total server capability, they are limited by the capability of a single node.
Think of it like a hotel, with each server node as a room in the hotel. If you spread people out evenly across the rooms, there's plenty of room and you can get lots of people in. However, if you try and cram 200 people into one room, you're going to have problems. Adding more rooms to the hotel, or building a second hotel next door, will not let you fit any more people into that one room. The only way to cram more people in the room is to either make the room bigger (i.e. faster nodes, which is limited by technical and financial concerns), or making the people smaller (i.e. writing code that runs faster, which Redundancy has posted that they are working on).
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Emno
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Posted - 2005.09.01 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Creed74
On a small note I lost about only 90mil in ship and stuff and am happy to take loss if I could have locked or even warped out.
lol?
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Riddlock
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Posted - 2005.09.01 23:51:00 -
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what part is funny emno ?
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Creed74
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Posted - 2005.09.02 08:48:00 -
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I dont see what is funny either! But thanks for the screen shot, it does mean that I did warp even though I could not see it and I thought I was still at the gate!!!!
Mmmm so since I did warp, does this mean it was my machine OR is it still lag?
well at least i have a screen shot of my death, so thanks!
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.09.02 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Riddlock
what part is funny emno ?
he was warpscambled
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