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Athena Maldoran
Special Nymphs On A Mission
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:15:00 -
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Maybe they hired some new people..
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:18:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Still a bigger fight than any other MMO can pull off 
That's true. Wether those fights serve better to please the 1,000 who get in or anger the 10,000 left out, that woould be another question... 
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3812
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:18:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Abuse of CCP is prohibited? 
Abuse yes, constructive criticism no.
You know that, you ride that fine line between the two all the time. 
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1099
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:20:00 -
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Alli Ginthur wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Very easy solution. Next time hold the event 1 jump into null sec, that will eliminate 95% of high sec participation in a snap, thus no lag. Better yet, hold it in a wormhole, eliminate 95% more of the playerbase, not just the hi-seccers Blind-man's bluff played with heavy ordnance. 
I like it.
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KIller Wabbit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
338
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:20:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Abuse of CCP is prohibited?
You didn't get the word? Only rainbows and sunshine are allowed now. 
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
370
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:22:00 -
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I also think U2 should stop holding concerts until they can build a stadium to accomodate their millions of fans. |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
338
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Posted - 2013.03.22 20:54:00 -
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Takseen wrote:I also think U2 should stop holding concerts until they can build a stadium to accomodate their millions of fans.
U2 Sells tickets. Once they are gone you are told well before the concert - SOLD OUT! They know better to have thousands of fans banging on the gates trying to get in, hoping that some fan will pass out and be hauled off on a stretcher. There would be riots (hmm there's a thought).
CCP should hold a drawing for live event tickets, and just like in RL, players should be allowed to scalp them. Taxes on that sale would be another needed isk sink.
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
1354
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Posted - 2013.03.22 21:03:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:Takseen wrote:I also think U2 should stop holding concerts until they can build a stadium to accomodate their millions of fans. U2 Sells tickets. Once they are gone you are told well before the concert - SOLD OUT! They know better to have thousands of fans banging on the gates trying to get in, hoping that some fan will pass out and be hauled off on a stretcher. There would be riots (hmm there's a thought). CCP should hold a drawing for live event tickets, and just like in RL, players should be allowed to scalp them. Taxes on that sale would be another needed isk sink.
That's sweet, paying again to play the game you already paid to play...
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2514
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Posted - 2013.03.22 21:17:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:Takseen wrote:I also think U2 should stop holding concerts until they can build a stadium to accomodate their millions of fans. U2 Sells tickets. Once they are gone you are told well before the concert - SOLD OUT! They know better to have thousands of fans banging on the gates trying to get in, hoping that some fan will pass out and be hauled off on a stretcher. There would be riots (hmm there's a thought). CCP should hold a drawing for live event tickets, and just like in RL, players should be allowed to scalp them. Taxes on that sale would be another needed isk sink.
Hmmmm
So if there were previous live events, and players who managed to do certain things on those live events leading up to this onel, and those actions could have been what let them participate, it would certainly even things out.
Unfortunately as logical as that might seem, it's unfair to people who have to work to pay their own bills. One of the things that make this game great is that it's not specifically advantageous to "he who has no life". The basement dweller who can be front and center at all times can have mommy revoke his internet in two seconds, and is not a stable player base as those who pay their own bills and generally stay on for the occasional live event. |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
338
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Posted - 2013.03.22 21:26:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:KIller Wabbit wrote:Takseen wrote:I also think U2 should stop holding concerts until they can build a stadium to accomodate their millions of fans. U2 Sells tickets. Once they are gone you are told well before the concert - SOLD OUT! They know better to have thousands of fans banging on the gates trying to get in, hoping that some fan will pass out and be hauled off on a stretcher. There would be riots (hmm there's a thought). CCP should hold a drawing for live event tickets, and just like in RL, players should be allowed to scalp them. Taxes on that sale would be another needed isk sink. That's sweet, paying again to play the game you already paid to play...
Since EVE is totally incapable of supporting the numbers of people in a single system that apparently wanted to actually be in system today there has to be a way to sort out the most passionate about being there from the hundreds of gawkers/chaff. (Yes, those hundreds of newbie ships in system really put the DPS where it was needed).
You sign up for the drawing and If you win pay nothing more. Paying scalping fees takes the load off CCP to do the sorting.
A very slight mod to the contract system to apply taxes would be the only thing needed to implement the scalping side. A mail based entry system would do the work on the drawing entry side.
** On the other hand, if CCP actually put on live events more often that once in a blue moon there wouldn't be a cattle rush to get into the few that are held. CCP Rising, I believe, said in the stream that live events are held weekly. Really? Since when?
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Leetha Layne
79
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Posted - 2013.03.22 21:28:00 -
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I'll take door number 3 Monte! |
Dash Bishop
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.03.22 21:35:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:They invited the whole community to a massive pvp event and then the whole thing toppled because too many people showed up. Despite them hosting the event and being ready for a player spike way in advance? No, not really. There was a system cap of 1600 people...
There tends to be around 40-45,000 people logged in during this time of day. Advertising a huge, groundbreaking, OMG you've got to participate in this event...and only accommodate 4% of the people playing the game?
Seems like epic fail to me. |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
2991
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Posted - 2013.03.22 21:46:00 -
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Klarion Sythis wrote:Single shard doesn't mean single system. Are so many people really just figuring out how this game works? The tears of uninformed entitlement are reaching flood levels today. You have no idea ... it's much worse.
Can't believe the amount of whine that's flowing around. |
Akai Kvaesir
In Exile.
122
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Posted - 2013.03.22 22:32:00 -
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Dash Bishop wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:They invited the whole community to a massive pvp event and then the whole thing toppled because too many people showed up. Despite them hosting the event and being ready for a player spike way in advance? No, not really. There was a system cap of 1600 people... There tends to be around 40-45,000 people logged in during this time of day. Advertising a huge, groundbreaking, OMG you've got to participate in this event...and only accommodate 4% of the people playing the game? Seems like epic fail to me.
Don't forget that this wasn't just an EVE event, but (to my admittedly narrow scope of knowledge) the first Dust+EVE live event, which is still an achievement. Plus, its not like live events have really had much player attendance in the past, so really, your just complaining that there was more interest (and less capacity) than you would normally expect. And as to the amount of PR that went into it, the same could be said of Burn Jita, but thousands of players cried vast rivers of tears at being caught unawares, so you can't really blame CCP for a rather pessimistic view of how many players would actually attend.
You can't complain that live events are a waste of time while at the same time complain that you couldn't attend said waste of time.
Well, you CAN, but you'd be idiotic and deranged to expect such complaints to be received with appreciation.
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Arronicus
vintas industries
Mistakes Were Made.
373
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Posted - 2013.03.23 00:36:00 -
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No. CCP proved they are a failure at player-interactive live events. There is a big difference. |
Arronicus
vintas industries
Mistakes Were Made.
373
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Posted - 2013.03.23 00:37:00 -
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Dash Bishop wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:They invited the whole community to a massive pvp event and then the whole thing toppled because too many people showed up. Despite them hosting the event and being ready for a player spike way in advance? No, not really. There was a system cap of 1600 people... There tends to be around 40-45,000 people logged in during this time of day. Advertising a huge, groundbreaking, OMG you've got to participate in this event...and only accommodate 4% of the people playing the game? Seems like epic fail to me.
2.5% you mean. 4% would have been a MASSIVE improvement. |
dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep
Silent Requiem
72
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Posted - 2013.03.23 01:16:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:[quote=Angelique Duchemin]I Also, many people don't really understand what 13% Tidi means, and think that they were lagging out when their computer didn't respond to their commands immediately.
Ain't that the truth. |
dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep
Silent Requiem
72
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Posted - 2013.03.23 01:17:00 -
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Dash Bishop wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Angelique Duchemin wrote:They invited the whole community to a massive pvp event and then the whole thing toppled because too many people showed up. Despite them hosting the event and being ready for a player spike way in advance? No, not really. There was a system cap of 1600 people... There tends to be around 40-45,000 people logged in during this time of day. Advertising a huge, groundbreaking, OMG you've got to participate in this event...and only accommodate 4% of the people playing the game? Seems like epic fail to me.
Considering that live events have pretty much flopped in the past, they just went off experience. |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
Solar Assault Fleet
449
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Posted - 2013.03.23 09:48:00 -
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Dash Bishop wrote:
There tends to be around 40-45,000 people logged in during this time of day. Advertising a huge, groundbreaking, OMG you've got to participate in this event...and only accommodate 4% of the people playing the game?
Seems like epic fail to me.
4% bothering with a RP event with none or limited impact on the market or anything else that matters seems a disturbingly high figure ;)
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Boozer Hoover
Unlawful Unit
THORN Alliance
5
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Posted - 2013.03.23 10:24:00 -
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Speaker4 theDead wrote:Why would you hold a live event, then prevent most people from being involved?
If you really can't provide the level of equipment needed to actually allow players to play the game, then you have failed at this idea...
Of course a sharded universe in EvE would probably be even a bigger failure, so maybe you should invest in equipment that can actually provide the service you claim to?
J
The event started at downtime and for the first 5 hours anyone could come in, those who waited until 20 Moros where on dscan where a bit too late.
That being said, a queue system would have been nice |
Athena Maldoran
Special Nymphs On A Mission
779
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Posted - 2013.03.23 10:28:00 -
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Boozer Hoover wrote:Speaker4 theDead wrote:Why would you hold a live event, then prevent most people from being involved?
If you really can't provide the level of equipment needed to actually allow players to play the game, then you have failed at this idea...
Of course a sharded universe in EvE would probably be even a bigger failure, so maybe you should invest in equipment that can actually provide the service you claim to? J The event started at downtime and for the first 5 hours anyone could come in, those who waited until 20 Moros where on dscan where a bit too late. That being said, a queue system would have been nice
1 hour after down time the system had about 500 people in it.
2 hours it was close to 1k
After that it was hard getting into the system
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
Paper Tiger Coalition
920
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Posted - 2013.03.23 10:33:00 -
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Boozer Hoover wrote:
The event started at downtime and for the first 5 hours anyone could come in, those who waited until 20 Moros where on dscan where a bit too late.
That being said, a queue system would have been nice
You should really buy a new watch ....
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
Paper Tiger Coalition
920
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Posted - 2013.03.23 10:40:00 -
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Akai Kvaesir wrote:the same could be said of Burn Jita, but thousands of players cried vast rivers of tears at being caught unawares, so you can't really blame CCP for a rather pessimistic view of how many players would actually attend.
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Burn jita was a player event BIG difference there.
Also those that say usually live events draw less attention might be true but the thing is CCP overdid it with hyping it and got the backfire from it.If someone asks if it's gonna be one big free for all no concord party and CCP's response is 'come and find out yourself  ' you should be aware that you are then drawing a LOT of people to it.
Had they been clear from the start then a LOT of those that showed up would not even have bothered in the first place.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Dave Stark
2084
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Posted - 2013.03.23 10:44:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Boozer Hoover wrote:
The event started at downtime and for the first 5 hours anyone could come in, those who waited until 20 Moros where on dscan where a bit too late.
That being said, a queue system would have been nice
You should really buy a new watch ....
confirming i had 0 trouble getting in to luminaire about an hour before the event with a mammoth full of atrons.
Want miners to move from high sec to null sec?
Then give them a reason to join player corps, and stop null sec grav sites being worth less isk/hour than high sec asteroid belts.
Really isn't difficult. |
Prince Kobol
676
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Posted - 2013.03.23 10:46:00 -
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Speaker4 theDead wrote:Why would you hold a live event, then prevent most people from being involved?
If you really can't provide the level of equipment needed to actually allow players to play the game, then you have failed at this idea...
Of course a sharded universe in EvE would probably be even a bigger failure, so maybe you should invest in equipment that can actually provide the service you claim to?
Which other MMO can hold a live event that involves 1600 people shooting each other and also generate the amount of tears, rage and butthurt that Eve does? |
Tiberius StarGazer
StarGazer Heavy Industries And Exploration
317
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Posted - 2013.03.23 10:51:00 -
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Was a bit gutted that I couldn't be there for the state....
But I was at work so couldn't do anything really.
I would have quite happily fought through the frog navy to be there.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3762
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Posted - 2013.03.23 11:09:00 -
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Delicious tears.....most indeed.
As if there won't be another event.
Ever heard of a Trial Run ?
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Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.03.23 13:13:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Delicious tears......
This has got to be the most stupid, idiot statement tossed around in EVE right up there with "Go back to WOW"...
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
354
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Posted - 2013.03.23 13:19:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Delicious tears...... This has got to be the most stupid, idiot statement tossed around in EVE right up there with "Go back to WOW"...
Except in this case i think its true, the amount of uninformed and selfentitled whining was and is immense.
Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome |
Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
303
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Posted - 2013.03.23 13:39:00 -
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CCP used what could have been a great story event as a cheap way to promote dust and EVE.
The live stream was so terrible just because of the "JOIN EVE AND DUST!, DUST IS FREE PLAY NOW! YOU CAN DO THIS EVERY DAY IN EVE SIGN UP NOW!"
For the tears over the railroading, that I can live with (though the spoilers almost a week before ruined it) the event was ruined for me in that all the small RP groups who turned up had no chance to fight without welping a fleet because there was no way to tell who was fighting for who.
If you were not fleeted with someone of part of a large alliance NAP you had nothing to do but KM ***** and hope you got out alive.
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves." |
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