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EvilSyKOSkitzo
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Posted - 2005.08.30 00:26:00 -
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Hey peoples,
I need some help from the community.
I just had another petition request for reimbursement after I lost a ship to 13 people who saw me as a neutral tempest answered with another "It did not show on our Server Logs so tough".
Who else here believes that OVERVIEW BUGS do exist and should be logged some how?
- Evil
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Derron Bel
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Posted - 2005.08.30 00:29:00 -
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Take screenshots.
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SGXiphias
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Posted - 2005.08.30 00:30:00 -
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screenshots dont matter. My freind had screenshots of a similiar bug and they simply said, "tough luck"
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.08.30 00:32:00 -
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Maybe I should show my war target gates and sentry guns?
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Hellraiza666
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Posted - 2005.08.30 00:39:00 -
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they do exist, i've had npc's show as war targets, i've had war targets show as gang members, i've had negative standings show as corp mates, and this colour bug is really starting to get on my nerves
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Zubenelgenubi
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Posted - 2005.08.30 00:52:00 -
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They do exist and they are extremely annoying..
Ganged planets... People showing up twice in the overview.. just to add a couple to the list.
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infused
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Posted - 2005.08.30 00:55:00 -
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Yes, please fix this CPP. If you screenshot it and fraps it they cannot NOT reimburse you.
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2005.08.30 00:57:00 -
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The GM's dont reimburse unless the reason is something they can definetely see in the logs the server collects, basically to avoid everyone and his dog claiming for things that were say entirely there own fault.
The overview is probably just a client-side representation of the data coming from the server, it won't be something that is logged, as a result the GM's can't prove it happened and won't reimburse, no matter how much they believe you.
It is an extremely nasty bug, no argument there.
Launched a dozen shuttles the other day, most of them showed up properly as "corp", but one showed very poor standings instead .. its very wierd.
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Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2005.08.30 01:18:00 -
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 Originally by: EvilSyKOSkitzo
So, I'am forced now to mine/hunt/agent till I can replace my battleship now.
Have fun 
Nah seriously, if there were that many of you then im sure your friends would collect some isk to buy you a new one.
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EvilSyKOSkitzo
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Posted - 2005.08.30 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Slaveabuser
Originally by: EvilSyKOSkitzo
So, I'am forced now to mine/hunt/agent till I can replace my battleship now.
Have fun
Nah seriously, if there were that many of you then im sure your friends would collect some isk to buy you a new one.
lol, thanks. :P
Nah, the help is there but its I think the second if not third time I've lost a ship to something like this. This time it was a little different is that the bug appeared on the side of the people who shot me.
It's not about the money any more its more about the hope that someone in CCP will say oh yeah we do have that bug and we are working on fixing it *SOON*.
Ok, back to working on my new tempest.. mining *SHUDDERS*.
- Evil
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.08.30 01:43:00 -
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I've seen alliance stations and corp moons 
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Ticondrius
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Posted - 2005.08.30 01:47:00 -
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Here, let's make it easy to follow:
Server bug: Reembursement after a few days and a lot of sweet talking the Gms.
Client Bug: HA! Riiiiight. We're all cheaters trying to get free stuff.
"If I'm brutally honest and it offends you, that's not my fault." |
Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.08.30 01:51:00 -
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A bit ago, I lost an apoc to lag. There could not have been any logs--what the logs would have shown is an apoc warping into the belt, not activating anything, and then dying. I had no evidence other than my own statement and the logs that showed that.
They gave it back.
Now, people have a non-server bug here, and they have FRAPS, screenshots, the whole deal.
The GMs won't give it back.
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Proud member of the [23].
Selling Capital Cargo Bays and Kernite Mining Crystal IIs, cheaper than anyone else. |
Jenna Fear
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Posted - 2005.08.30 02:04:00 -
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I will gladly sign this... It is very annoying for gang to show war, corp to show war, and also for planets, roids, and anything else to be ganged according to the overview. 
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.08.30 02:05:00 -
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most of the gms just wont give u anything back even if they took u outside of the station and self destructured ur ship right there, half of those would say that there no evidence that they did that. the rest might actually read the petitions.
i mean i no yeah theres a lot but i have genuine (sp?) proof that 2 gms in a row did not read my petition. and u no what :o thats in their logs! but hey its not like i can force them to actually read it or anything....
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.08.30 02:24:00 -
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FIX it.
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Drutort
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Posted - 2005.08.30 02:29:00 -
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ya i had it number of times... and seems that even close opening it didnt help in some cases O_o
also there is a UI bug with refitting... some how you end up with the item stuck on your screen.. no matter what you do... dock undock jump etc... nothing helps but relog of course...
support Idea: QuickInfo an alternative to ShowInfo
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Dsanta2345
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Posted - 2005.08.30 03:22:00 -
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Originally by: Zubenelgenubi
They do exist and they are extremely annoying..
Ganged planets... People showing up twice in the overview.. just to add a couple to the list.
i had the cloud from a merc roid become a member of my gang :)
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Dareenii Ulthar
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Posted - 2005.08.30 03:46:00 -
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Edited by: Dareenii Ulthar on 30/08/2005 03:46:20
I wonder if running the logserver would capture this bug? I wonder if people would be willing to run it until an obvious overview error showed up and then submit it in a bug report? I have never seen this bug myself, but that just means I don't generally do what triggers the bug. They should be able to take the logserver logs and match them to the server logs and see what happened/miscommunicated at that time.
I'm starting to do so myself, just on the off chance it happens to me. Yeah it lags me a bit, but then I run logserver on patch days as well, and when on Sisi, so I'm used to it.
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Scoundrelus
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Posted - 2005.08.30 03:53:00 -
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Ok im starting to understand somethings now. For example, once I saw a station flashing red in my overview. Another time I saw an asteroid belt highlighted in orange. I was utterly confused.
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.08.30 04:08:00 -
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I never believe my overview and always double check it. This has saved other people's asses many times, but when its another person mistaking you...well that could be interesting indeed.
~Captain Cutie, Razor's Kiss |
Sorja
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Posted - 2005.08.30 04:31:00 -
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I witnessed this.
I indeed saw a ship named 'Tempest' on my overview, but since it wasn't red nor blue, I assumed it was a bug and didn't bother locking and firing at it.
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Tbone
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Posted - 2005.08.30 04:45:00 -
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try this bug i submitted. i got denied my ship also this screenshot was what i took after i warped to gate when i seen local was all friendlies. didnt know they were even in system.
No Local
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Unholy Killboard
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David Corbett
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Posted - 2005.08.30 04:47:00 -
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It absolutely does exist on the overlay bar colour for ships.
However, if you check the box on the lower-right hand side, it will display accurately. Usually that's a good thing to check; fortunately I've got a colour scheme that has the colours clash when something's not right and it points it out to me right away.
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Nyxus
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Posted - 2005.08.30 05:00:00 -
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It happens ALL THE TIME.
Its the overlay color bar. The icon will be correct, but the overlay can be.....well anything.
I have lost several ships to this. I hate fighting in empire becuase of it. In a rush you can easily shoot at the Red Flashies and get concordokkened because it was neither red nor flashy.
Nyxus
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.08.30 05:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tbone
try this bug i submitted. i got denied my ship also this screenshot was what i took after i warped to gate when i seen local was all friendlies. didnt know they were even in system.
No Local
What the ****?
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Selling Capital Cargo Bays and Kernite Mining Crystal IIs, cheaper than anyone else. |
Tbone
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Posted - 2005.08.30 06:06:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Tbone
try this bug i submitted. i got denied my ship also this screenshot was what i took after i warped to gate when i seen local was all friendlies. didnt know they were even in system.
No Local
What the ****?
yeah i was on Ts and asking if it was clear to warp to gate. figured no one in local but friendlies, so warped. then looked had started gang 5-7 minutes before, no one was in gang, but my alt was in gang and on his screen showed everyone in local and in gang. then when i got out of warp, i had all that in local. kinda mystery jumpin bug. didnt get reimbursed either.
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Unholy Killboard
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Klaryssa
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Posted - 2005.08.30 06:11:00 -
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Overview is totally borked.
Often ive had hostiles / neutrals just not appear at all. After being jammed, the hostile ship disappears from overview as well.
Ive had friendly alliance pilots appear as corp-mates, and as neutrals.
It needs a rewrite.
As im writing this, the server is broken too. No Show Info, hangars and escrow dont work, cant log in anymore, and modules dont activate.
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SPIONKOP
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Posted - 2005.08.30 06:24:00 -
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I have never been affected by this bug but I have seen stations with negative standing and some other strange stuff. It always seems to happen in very busy systems such as Jita, so maybe its client lag issue.
Hope you get your stuff back but I doubt you will.
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JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2005.08.30 06:26:00 -
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Since the overview has not once worked as dsigned since it's implementation more than 9 months ago, tere is only one solution:
STOP SHOOTING.
If that results is such copious amounts of unmitigated boredom that people decide to stay away from the game for a stretch, someone at CCP perhaps will sc*****up a clue at. Maybe. Wouldn't bet on it.
So how's this for s asuggestion (since the server is b0rked into hell and back right now anyway): I propose a three day log-in moratorium to demonstrate just how many subscribers there really are who are indeed dumb enough to keep p(l)aying in spite of the buggery. That would satisfy my scientific curiosity and none of you would lose another ship 
JP Beauregard
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