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Ra Jackson
BLOOM.
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Posted - 2013.04.04 18:05:00 -
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Zedrik Cayne wrote:Seraphin Foad wrote:Large/Full Whitelist; FORMAT: DATE - Character or Corportation/Ticker [Alliance/Corp/Character(Contact)] Covered
March 25/04/2013 - LBC [Corporation(Arc)] 1F + 1M 27/04/2013 - Alty MacAlterson [Character] 1F + 1M 27/04/2013 - Defunctional [Character] 1F 28/04/2013 - Quafe Employee [Character] 1F 29/04/2013 - Duke Nucleas [Character] 1F
April 27/05/2013 - TUPAC [Corporation(Welsh)] 3F Ladies and gentlemen. I hereby present you above with a list of the goon alts who do their highsec hauling for them. What better way of preventing an accidental gank of out of alliance alts freighters, than to advertise a whitelist? (And of course to scam folks into paying the protection fee.)
This is actually a brilliant list of entities to wardec. |

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
534
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Posted - 2013.04.04 18:52:00 -
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Bane Veradun wrote:Is the moon goo trust fund running low? Or is the rest of New Eden not paying enough attention to the goons? actually it is more like GOONS now hold all the space they want. they have no need of more. So since nobody is invading them, they are bored. What better activity for a bored GOON then high sec ganking and scamming.
I would expect though that they will honor this white list as the majority of freighter pilots and miners are not on it. Considering all they do is set you to +5 standing if you are on the list and set you to -5 if you stop paying, it is not like they need to check the lost for a name every time they gank a freighter. Just don't gank the blues.
This is definitely an isk making scheme, but not one where they will gank those on the list. Look at it more like paying protection fees to the mob, they are not actually protecting you, just not targeting you. pay the fee the goons will leave you alone. however the GOONS are not the only threat to freighter. the Marmite Collective seem to have a very similar set up. I have even seen the Marmite Collective and GOONS going after the same targets basically fighting over it to see who gets credit for the kill. |

Seraphin Foad
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2013.04.04 19:43:00 -
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One day I will be allowed to post what is actually happening and how it went down, until that day I'm going to keep it in my notepads and await a time when little goon boys and girls want to hear about how empire fell to the might of the Goonswarm Federation and their CFC allies.
What your saying there Bugsy is reasonably close. We aren't bored and you're right, we do honour this list. We don't fight the Marmite collective for anything, we just steal their loot when they kill war targets and let them rant and rave on the forums. I personally have stolen over 17b from them for self gratification. As for protection, it's true that we adopt a "mafia style" but we do actually protect some of these freighters going through, last week we saved a freighter we ransomed from being attacked by solar fleet after we turned it loose. Granted I'm not in a popular alliance, but i have a business (Graphics and consulting in eve, currently not accept public contracts) to uphold and will go out my way to ensure my reputation is untarnished.
You'll see why this is all taking place months maybe even a year from now, look back at it like the 100b+ scams of old, realise how insignificant it is and wish you were a goon just to be part of it. Until then, please spam your theories, I love to read them.
I watched the Soprano's after being likened to a Mafia figure, I'm pretty insulted, I'm a lot more organised than these fat old men. |

Agent Trask
New Order Logistics CODE.
117
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Posted - 2013.04.04 21:35:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Anyone who thinks this is a "scam" should pull up killmails to try to prove otherwise.
This is as legit as it gets.
I welcome miniluv's new highsec government initiative.
Remember, carebears, paying the New Order's 10m ISK/month fee does not exempt you from the attention of miniluv!
It is your rebellious behavior that have forced the kind people at miniluv to redouble efforts at bringing highsec anarchism to heel.
Avoid having to scream "Do it to Julia!". Be sure to make your payments to both miniluv and the New Order on time.
Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.
www.minerbumping.com |

Agent Trask
New Order Logistics CODE.
117
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Posted - 2013.04.04 21:38:00 -
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Reuben Johnson wrote:Amyclas Amatin wrote:All the best in goonswarm's upcoming friendship campaign. I might just get on the combined high-sec ops channel to join in.
Anyone who purchases a goonswarm permit should also remember that they still need a New Order permit. Same people, different alts. The permits are interchangable.
Incorrect.
Do not encourage rebellious behavior. ALL permits required for carebear activities in highsec must be paid for or you risk ship and pod confiscation. Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.
www.minerbumping.com |

Sorrowsong Stenier-Tian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.04.04 21:54:00 -
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Agent Trask wrote:Reuben Johnson wrote:Amyclas Amatin wrote:All the best in goonswarm's upcoming friendship campaign. I might just get on the combined high-sec ops channel to join in.
Anyone who purchases a goonswarm permit should also remember that they still need a New Order permit. Same people, different alts. The permits are interchangable. Incorrect. Do not encourage rebellious behavior. ALL permits required for carebear activities in highsec must be paid for or you risk ship and pod confiscation.
I so wish you guys did not hide in dock, be nice to see you flying around just like regular folk and getting your faces burned off. But alas such is eve. |

Agent Trask
New Order Logistics CODE.
117
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Posted - 2013.04.04 22:03:00 -
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Sorrowsong Stenier-Tian wrote:
I so wish you guys did not hide in dock, be nice to see you flying around just like regular folk and getting your faces burned off. But alas such is eve.
We are here to enforce the Code, and nothing else, ma'am.
If you want gudfites, I suggest going down the hall to RvB. Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.
www.minerbumping.com |

Sorrowsong Stenier-Tian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.04.04 22:04:00 -
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Agent Trask wrote:Sorrowsong Stenier-Tian wrote:
I so wish you guys did not hide in dock, be nice to see you flying around just like regular folk and getting your faces burned off. But alas such is eve.
We are here to enforce the Code, and nothing else, Ma'am. If you want gudfites, I suggest going down the hall to RvB.
No I find pleasure in those who try to project 'power'. I want to kill you :< |

Agent Trask
New Order Logistics CODE.
117
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Posted - 2013.04.04 22:19:00 -
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Sorrowsong Stenier-Tian wrote:Agent Trask wrote:Sorrowsong Stenier-Tian wrote:
I so wish you guys did not hide in dock, be nice to see you flying around just like regular folk and getting your faces burned off. But alas such is eve.
We are here to enforce the Code, and nothing else, Ma'am. If you want gudfites, I suggest going down the hall to RvB. No I find pleasure in those who try to project 'power'. I want to kill you :<
Wait in icebelts if you want to hunt over bait. We chase iceminers, so if you want to hunt predators, that is where we will be.
Mind you, you won't prevent ganks, but if you just want to shoot up our hulls while CONCORD is asploding them, feel free. If you are fast enough, you night even pod some of us, and destroy our cheap 1% gank implants.
Good luck. I approve of players in EvE who actually try to PvP. Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.
www.minerbumping.com |

Sorrowsong Stenier-Tian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.04.04 22:24:00 -
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Agent Trask wrote:Sorrowsong Stenier-Tian wrote:Agent Trask wrote:Sorrowsong Stenier-Tian wrote:
I so wish you guys did not hide in dock, be nice to see you flying around just like regular folk and getting your faces burned off. But alas such is eve.
We are here to enforce the Code, and nothing else, Ma'am. If you want gudfites, I suggest going down the hall to RvB. No I find pleasure in those who try to project 'power'. I want to kill you :< Wait in icebelts if you want to hunt over bait. We chase iceminers, so if you want to hunt predators, that is where we will be. Mind you, you won't prevent ganks, but if you just want to shoot up our hulls while CONCORD is asploding them, feel free. If you are fast enough, you night even pod some of us, and destroy our cheap 1% gank implants. Good luck. I approve of players in EvE who actually try to PvP.
Well it is kinda ironic. Shooting throw away suicide alts, is nearly as futile as what you do to miners, and utterly cowardly. But hey i'd rather have your names on kill-records then johnny miner anyday.
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Agent Trask
New Order Logistics CODE.
117
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Posted - 2013.04.04 22:45:00 -
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Sorrowsong Stenier-Tian wrote: Well it is kinda ironic. Shooting throw away suicide alts, is nearly as futile as what you do to miners, and utterly cowardly. But hey i'd rather have your names on kill-records then johnny miner anyday.
I live to serve! Here is hoping to see you in the ice belts.
I will continue to do the hard work of cleaning ice-dependent mining hobos out of highsec, regardless. Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.
www.minerbumping.com |

Sola Mercury
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
46
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Posted - 2013.04.05 08:24:00 -
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Agent Trask wrote:
I welcome miniluv's new highsec government initiative.
Remember, carebears, paying the New Order's 10m ISK/month fee does not exempt you from the attention of miniluv!
Last time I checked, it was 10mil/year. A mistake on your side?
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culo duro
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
61
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Posted - 2013.04.05 08:30:00 -
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Bugsy VanHalen wrote:Bane Veradun wrote:Is the moon goo trust fund running low? Or is the rest of New Eden not paying enough attention to the goons? actually it is more like GOONS now hold all the space they want. they have no need of more. So since nobody is invading them, they are bored. What better activity for a bored GOON then high sec ganking and scamming. I would expect though that they will honor this white list as the majority of freighter pilots and miners are not on it. Considering all they do is set you to +5 standing if you are on the list and set you to -5 if you stop paying, it is not like they need to check the list for a name every time they gank a freighter. Just don't gank the blues. This is definitely an isk making scheme, but not one where they will gank those on the list. Look at it more like paying protection fees to the mob, they are not actually protecting you, just not targeting you. pay the fee the goons will leave you alone. However the GOONS are not the only threat to a freighter. the Marmite Collective seem to have a very similar set up. And there are many others jumping on the bandwagon. I have even seen the Marmite Collective and GOONS going after the same targets basically fighting over it to see who gets credit for the kill.
If you mean when the goons are bumping freighters in uedama? we've often considered to just bring all our neut logi out there and rep the **** of them. Else it's just because we wanna loot *****.
However since we decced goons we haven't seen a freighter gank in uedama or the surroundings. I may very well be wrong, but if you intend to pay protection money to the goons, you might aswell just pay it to us instead. Goons ain't gonna try and gank with the risk of people fighting them. |

Sabriz Adoudel
Resurgent Threat
187
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Posted - 2013.04.05 09:28:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:I don't care who does what and where. We re not here to safe the world.....and beyond.... But if you re making profit in our area, we want to see isks. And when you get on one of our kills, we want isks. And if you want to **** in high sec, we want isks. And when you say the word high sec again, we want..... think you get my point.  New order <3 ...... they speak our language. Goons ...... still need to learn our language (even if they turn out to be the same players  )
New Order isn't a Goon operation, although it definitely has Goonswarm involvement.
I both supply the NO and occasionally kill miners, and am -5 to GSF. Were I to join a NS alliance, it probaly wouldn't be the Goons. '... you cannot reason with the mining bots, you cannot negotiate with them, you can only bring them judgement in the form of Navy Antimatter, turn their Mackinaws to salvage and dust, smartbomb their pods, and burn their Mining Link implants with sweet incense...'- The Gospel according to St James 315 |

Ivan Ward
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
136
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Posted - 2013.04.05 09:49:00 -
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Zeus Maximo wrote:motgus wrote:[quote=Zeus Maximo]
[quote=Powers Sa]The only relevant part of your alliance is Freight Club. You sure thought this one through before you spoke. They arent in our alliance...
And there aren't anything relevant in your alliance then. "Hot pilots we have problems too, we're just like you." |

Athena Maldoran
Special Nymphs On A Mission
1605
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Posted - 2013.04.05 10:02:00 -
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If someone is hiding from you, i garantee you they are all found in Khanid.. |

Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
283
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Posted - 2013.04.05 11:43:00 -
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Freight Club joined a very nice alliance......guess....  Psychotic Monk for CSM |

Agent Trask
New Order Logistics CODE.
118
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:09:00 -
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Sola Mercury wrote:Agent Trask wrote:
I welcome miniluv's new highsec government initiative.
Remember, carebears, paying the New Order's 10m ISK/month fee does not exempt you from the attention of miniluv!
Last time I checked, it was 10mil/year. A mistake on your side?
Sorry, yes. A Freudian slip there.
James 315 is way too lenient to miners in my opinion. But he IS the leader, so I must rein in my greed and obey.
Thank you for pointing this error out.
Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.
www.minerbumping.com |

Athena Maldoran
Special Nymphs On A Mission
1621
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Posted - 2013.04.07 12:40:00 -
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I see your great reach havent reached Khanid yet.  |

NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
412
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Posted - 2013.04.08 23:54:00 -
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Agent Trask wrote:Sola Mercury wrote:Agent Trask wrote:
I welcome miniluv's new highsec government initiative.
Remember, carebears, paying the New Order's 10m ISK/month fee does not exempt you from the attention of miniluv!
Last time I checked, it was 10mil/year. A mistake on your side? Sorry, yes. A Freudian slip there. James 315 is way too lenient to miners in my opinion. But he IS the leader, so I must rein in my greed and obey. Thank you for pointing this error out. Ye hath nigh disfavoured the code. The fee does not protect against thou's ganks merely against... well nothing actually, save maybst a full wallet. |

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
858
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Posted - 2013.04.09 07:05:00 -
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How much ISK to be put on the Goons black list? 
or lol better yet how much ISK 'deposti' to put others on the Goons Minilub black list    Ripard Teg-á for CSM 8 Disclaimer: CCP Bias is a fictional character. In case that some CCP Bias does exist,-áis he an "ex"-Goon? |

Xayder
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
229
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:25:00 -
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why that hate 
go run insursions and buy toonies for your momies with iskies
I don't always post, But when i post I do it with my main |

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
545
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Posted - 2013.04.09 15:53:00 -
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Seraphin Foad wrote:One day I will be allowed to post what is actually happening and how it went down, until that day I'm going to keep it in my notepads and await a time when little goon boys and girls want to hear about how empire fell to the might of the Goonswarm Federation and their CFC allies.
You'll see why this is all taking place months maybe even a year from now, look back at it like the 100b+ scams of old, realize how insignificant it is and wish you were a goon just to be part of it. Until then, please spam your theories, I love to read them.
I watched the Soprano's after being likened to a Mafia figure, I'm pretty insulted, I'm a lot more organized than these fat old men. The Mafia is far more sophisticated then Sopranos seems to imply, that is just a sitcom, although entertaining. Hollywood has no idea what really happens behind the scenes. I am sure many others are equally insulted by the portrayal. Sopranos only shows the lowest levels of activity, just like many in EVE only see the ganking. Behind the scenes there is much more going on.
I have considered joining the GOONS on occasion. I believe I do meet the qualifications. I do respect the GOONS for what they do and have accomplished. Although I do occasionally disagree with them. I just do not have the time currently to spend in game to contribute to an Alliance. if I was to join the goons I would seek to be a contributor not just a grunt. Perhaps when my kids get a little older I will have more time. I love the meta game you guys play and how you manipulate EVE with nobody knowing what is going on until it is to late. I would love to be a part of it, but as I said, my time is far to limited.
Although it was game breaking, the big scam pulled off with the Faction Wars changes was awesome. I do not believe CCP was right to seize all the assets gained in that endeavor. But the many trillions of isk made, would have created an imbalance if left in the hands of the GOONS. However it was due to CP's mistake that it was all possible. They gave the goons the tools to pull it off, then punished them for being innovative with those tools. That I do not agree with.
I am really looking forward to seeing the outcome of current endeavors, and trying to figure out where it is heading before it becomes obvious. Good luck to you and all the goons. I know even though I am not involved, it will be entertaining.
I do find it odd that of all the MMO's you guys play, EVE seems to be the only one where the focus goes beyond simply ruining the game for other players. I do think what is done in startrek online is hilarious. I just really hope the ultimate plan does not involve breaking the greatest MMO we have to play. I am all for innovative and ambitious players affecting the games direction, as long as when the dust clears I still have a great, or even better game to play.
EVE is about having fun, and despite the hate GOONS generate, every GOON and their friends seem to have fun. Even if it is often at an others expense, that is what MMO's are all about. If the GOON haters would step back and discern the motives behind the actions, far more non-goons would share the respect I have for what has been accomplished. All they see is the ganking, they are blind to the purpose that drives it. Not that I know the details, but anyone with half a brain should realize the ICE interdiction's were not about ganking miners, but about the profits made from the manipulation of the ICE markets. I expect many GOONS made many billions of isk off it. The tears from the ganked miners was just a bonus. |

Kristopher Rocancourt
Quality Assurance The Marmite Collective
107
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Posted - 2013.04.10 12:43:00 -
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Speaking of Freighter losses, i am so sorry to hear of the 8.2 Billion ISK loss of one of your Goon Rhea jumpfreighters [pilot name Viilaa for those looking to find on Killboard] yesterday to MARMITE.
I thought SOP for Goons was to hide in Nullsex when at war.... Viilaa needs a slap on the wrist from Mittens LOL.
Proud member of MYM8 Jita Police.
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Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1734
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Posted - 2013.04.10 15:56:00 -
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lol highsec mercs who quote Sun Tzu - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
288
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:01:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:lol highsec mercs who quote Sun Tzu
Tears for losing 17,3B isks so far ?
Learn your history and see how many small armies have ripped apart large armies. 
Still looking for more alliances/corps to finance this war..... Psychotic Monk for CSM |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1734
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Posted - 2013.04.10 23:20:00 -
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Serious question: why do you think I would be upset (and not amused) that some idiots who can't read their notifications lost some ****?
I'm wondering if this is serious chest-beating (you think you're impacting the alliance as an entity) or mindless-trolling to try to get a reaction (and are aware you're just camping gates in highsec, a pointless activity against a 0.0 alliance whose logistics is out-of-alliance alts) . - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1734
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Posted - 2013.04.10 23:22:00 -
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I mean, our rookie ship reimbursement wallet is nearly dead so we need an answer pretty quick. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1734
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Posted - 2013.04.10 23:24:00 -
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Also the small armies tended to impact large armies, historically speaking, by performing hit-and-run tactics on supply lines and bases of operations. I know this means leaving highsec, but gosh darnit, you got yourself a war to win you little scamp so it might just be worth the college try. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |

Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
288
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Posted - 2013.04.10 23:49:00 -
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Would I be trolling and waiting for tears....NEVER .... LIES ! Now send me 500M. Psychotic Monk for CSM |
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