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Vaugue
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Posted - 2005.09.03 04:20:00 -
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Edited by: Vaugue on 03/09/2005 04:23:27
To any and all,
Today I recieved a quite a shock in my mail. This corporation sent me a letter and declared war on my currently new and unestablished corporation of rookies. Claiming to have a contract from a mysterious and undisclosed corp here is the letter i recieved(I won't mention the system or station but i will say it's in empire space and a security level of 0.6, it's not like we are intruding into someones sovereignty of 0.0 space ) :
 Originally by: Letter in evemail
2005.09.03 02:23:00
We have been contracted by a non-disclosed corporation to enforce the following demands:
+ Leaving the ***** IX - Moon 13 - ************ Office immediatly
+ Removing any deployable containers you might have in the area
+ payment of an economic compensation of 150.000.000 ISK
Failure to comply will result in war. It will continue untill demands are met, and/or the destruction of ULCC.
You have 24 hours to comply
GankYee Doodle
Contract Executor
So I investigated thier corpration before making contact. Currently at 5 associates with 1.5 years or more in piloting experience under thier belts, and thier corpration description stamped with :
Originally by: corprate description
To Deliver You From Evil And Greed : Allah Has Sent Us
Current Contracts : 1 Taking Contracts : ( Unilateral Caldari
Confederacy )
If anyone is able to assist us in this manner or even some advice, we would greatly appreciate it. Being a corp of only 27 members with an average piloting time of 2 weeks have no clue or idea how to handle this situation. Nor can we meet the demands financialy, but nor do we have the ability to defend against it. We have 22hrs till the war is on and i really do not want to come back to find our corporation dissolved by what appears to be a few extortionists. The corp being only 23 days old have no idea who or what would want a contract put out on our head and are basicly pleading for help in this event. |
Kiara Krestfall
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Posted - 2005.09.03 05:42:00 -
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5 Associates, as such, saying that you have more than 5 times as many members as they do?
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Vaugue
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Posted - 2005.09.03 05:51:00 -
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Edited by: Vaugue on 03/09/2005 05:54:11
Aye that we do.... (out of character : all but 4 still on thier free trial) but most of them are inexperienced and only have a few weeks expierence as pilots under thier belts. Even if we all got together in force, I don't think we would stand a chance. I can only assume they are in Heavy Assaults and or Battleships. Us being in destroyers and haulers (aside from 4 combat fighters in low end cruisers) we wouldn't stand a chance.
My plee for help or even advice comes as we aren't even established. How can we step on toes just by opening an office? How is a corp to even get a foot hold if we can't even open an office in Empire Space without being threatened? Let alone 0.0 Everyone I have asked believes this is an attempt at extortion because we by no means, have any way to defend ourselves, nor pay this ridiculous amount of isk.
I named the corp (the title of the thread is the name of the merc corp) doesnt do much to search as it shows no previous past of wars or jobs.
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Kiara Krestfall
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Posted - 2005.09.03 05:55:00 -
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Edited by: Kiara Krestfall on 03/09/2005 05:56:16
For now, all I can say is that you have a few hours to set up Instas. If you truly want to stick it out in that system, get to know you're area, and do it quick.
The GalNet is usually quiet at this time of night, but give it awhile and someone else will at least post some advice.
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Vaugue
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Posted - 2005.09.03 07:38:00 -
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Edited by: Vaugue on 03/09/2005 07:38:59
Originally by: Kiara Krestfall
Edited by: Kiara Krestfall on 03/09/2005 05:57:53
Edited by: Kiara Krestfall on 03/09/2005 05:56:16
For now, all I can say is that you have a few hours to set up Instas. If you truly want to stick it out in that system, get to know you're area, and do it quick.
Ok so we decide not to stick it out in this system.. where do we go ? it's the bloody caldari state noob system... How much lower can we go? Where else are we supposed to *stick it out* if we can't even be in caldari empire space?
Originally by: Kiara Krestfall
It also might not be a bad idea to establish roles, who's good at what, and try to stick with it. Again, it's hard to say what to do since I don't know what it is you ultimately plan on doing, nor the composition of your enemy force.
Who's good at what? Establish roles? how can we be good at anything being only a couple weeks old as a corp and the general populous of its players being about the same. I myself am the 3rd oldest player in the corp at 4 weeks ! I'm still on my probationary pilots lisence as well.(trial period) We can all hop into merlin's and kestrals and gank the 2year + vets no problem....
(Out of character : We didnt provoke this in any way .. we don't ore thief, nor do we have any*****y members.. why would someone go to the extreme very well knowing we are a few weeks old demanding millions of isk and demanding our office be taken down in a nooby empire space area? I dont mind open pvp but come on 2 year old players griefing a 2 week old corp.....)
edit : for some reason the word c o c k y is bad
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Kiara Krestfall
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Posted - 2005.09.03 07:39:00 -
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Hey, I'm only offering friendly advice and trying to help. I'm not the one wardecing your corp. Cool your spacejets Cap'n Ahab.
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Vaugue
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Posted - 2005.09.03 07:45:00 -
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I'm not dissing the advice, and im not heating my jets hehe.. but the advice you're giving is for a corp that has had at least some months experience and some time to develope even a little bit.. we have a like 2 weeks most of these guys dont even have caldari frigate passed lvl 3 lol.
So basicly the way it looks is these measily 5 griefers are going to destroy this core. I guess it was just never meant to be, it had a good membership count, too bad we dont have any skills to even defend ourselves.
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ekkertnafnlaust
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Posted - 2005.09.03 09:37:00 -
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the day is still young you just might get some1 that is ready to help you fight them so dont give up straight away
my advice:
what ever you do dont give them one lousy isk
hire mercs if you have isk for it (some of them might even do it for the kindness of their hearts  )
if you dont have that kind of isk try hirering 2-3 pvp characters for x amount per day to organise and lead you into battle
dont believe that skill points tell the hole story a crfuiser can take down a battleship and you do have the numbers in your favor
if you loose 50 noob ships and they loose a good cruiser then they are still loosing :)
my guess is that as soon as they see your not paying them and your not backing down (and even making them loose ships)they will not waste any more time on you and just find another corp to blackmail 
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2005.09.03 10:40:00 -
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((personally i think it is a complete lack of taste in nameing a corp associated with a real world hate movement. you'd think ccp would regulate that.))
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2005.09.03 10:57:00 -
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These are obviously a bunch of jerks that want nothing but easy ganks. Alas this is all within the game mechanics so you'll have to deal with it. Here's a couple of things:
- You're all new players so you can't really lose anything.
- A bunch of cheap frigates can easily gank a bigger, and more expensive, ship
- Moving is probably not an option as they'll just use locator agents to track your new location
- If they're sicking a hostile force on you, simply run or log. Not giving them the pleasure of blowing up your noobs will discourage them
- For the duration of the war you may safely assume that empire is not safe, thus you should refrain from doing anything stupid like: flying anything AFK, hauling, roaming around in active systems like Jita, etc.
The more realistic option is this though: Disband and join a NPC corporation. Ask yourself, what good is a player corporation consisting out of a bunch of noobs? You're obviously not going to use any of the major corp benefits like POS deployment or joining an alliance. You should just disband and have your members join an unpopular NPC corp. Use a separate chat channel for communication and organize things from there.
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.09.03 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: TheKiller8
The more realistic option is this though: Disband and join a NPC corporation. Ask yourself, what good is a player corporation consisting out of a bunch of noobs? You're obviously not going to use any of the major corp benefits like POS deployment or joining an alliance. You should just disband and have your members join an unpopular NPC corp. Use a separate chat channel for communication and organize things from there.
Agree...
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2005.09.03 11:09:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Pugwash on 03/09/2005 11:09:13
I will talk to AL-HIZBUL MUJAHIDEEN's CEO
If talking fails you will have assistance
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Kantar
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Posted - 2005.09.03 11:15:00 -
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I think is disgusting declear war on a newly form corp with ppl that want start playing EVE.
This could be one of the reason that put ppl off playing this game I think.
I dont belive this guys/girls never took a contract with some well establish corp bcose they wont be here today.
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Sitherus
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Posted - 2005.09.03 11:28:00 -
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Eve mail me, happy to go merc to help :D
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Dalilah
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Posted - 2005.09.03 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: Dalilah on 03/09/2005 11:42:23
2 Vaugue
They can't fight against power enemies therefore must to choose casual weaken victim as your corp. I'm very distrust that they have real contract.
You have one way only to resolve this problem without fighting or hiring merc's: start new corporation then move all active members in new corp. If they'll declare war against new corp - start one more corp and move members in this corp. And do this until your enemies will start to feel drain of the money for their useless business. When they'll retract all wars you'll can return in current corp.
P.S. btw you have nice website 
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Demarcus
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Posted - 2005.09.03 12:01:00 -
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EVE mail me I would be happy to assist your young pilots.
I would also send CCP an email or something about thier corp name. I find people using terrorist group names in game rather offensive.
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You are all worthless, and weak.
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Stradivarious
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Posted - 2005.09.03 12:57:00 -
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You have friends coming m8, nobody likes griefer corps, especially VC :p
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TIO 101
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Posted - 2005.09.03 17:39:00 -
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just give me names of their pilots.
TIO 101 - Dealing Justice
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2005.09.03 17:47:00 -
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Ill kill'em just for the name of thier corp.
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Rola Ron
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Posted - 2005.09.03 19:06:00 -
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CEO is Dirty Looks.
We know of Gankyee Doodle, we have yet to find the other pilot names.
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Dirty Looks
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Posted - 2005.09.03 19:18:00 -
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Alrighty .
I dont really care how anyone feels about the war... but for the various ignoramuses who know nothing beyond what exists in the western world a little clarification.
Al-Hizbul Mujahideen means "Undead Warriors purified by the waters of Hizbul"
Thats all. Now if various real world terrorist groups chose to use the name its not my problem.
Just like if some extremist group starts calling themselves "I.R.O.N" or "Vengeance of the Fallen" theres not much that could be done about it.
So dont get your panties in a bunch. Other than that .. do what you like.
Love you all.
Bye.
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Vaugue
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Posted - 2005.09.03 19:23:00 -
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Another thing that's looks extremely suspicious is the fact that we have yet to see gankyee and dirty on at the sametime.. it's always one or the other, nor have we been able to figure out the other 3 supposed pilots in this core. It smells like pure extortion and we're the target bnecause we're new and supposedly scared easy.
Not sure how assistance works in this game.. We heard alliances are pretty pricey and way out of our league right now, and we can't ask you to just declare war on them as we found out that costs you money as well. I think we will just stick through this and see if they are for real, because right now it doesnt look like it, and if we find out the hard way its like you said, we are new without much to lose yet.
As for the one guy who said what do we have to gain out of a core of rookies. We have a pretty tight nit group here of 27 people, and growing daily. We have pretty much gotten to know each other since day one so it's a plus to have even closer friends than just random ramblings from the rookie cores you start in. We are learning each others play styles early and learning to play as a team together early. There is many other thing's i can come up with, and i think most in my core would agree that they are much better off in ULCC than they were in the starter cores.
[ULCC] CEO
Vaugue
Serving the State
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Orrimark Firrohn
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Posted - 2005.09.03 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Dirty Looks
Al-Hizbul Mujahideen means "Undead Warriors purified by the waters of Hizbul"
Thats all. Now if various real world terrorist groups chose to use the name its not my problem.
Just like if some extremist group starts calling themselves "I.R.O.N" or "Vengeance of the Fallen" theres not much that could be done about it.
That's bull and you know it.
Heck. I'm going to start a corp. I'm going to name it Ku Klux Corp. Any resemblance to an organization of pea-brained in-bred hicks is pure coincidence.
You sir, are a chicken**** and NO YOU CAN'T HAVE OUR LUNCH MONEY.
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fifthforce
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Posted - 2005.09.03 20:16:00 -
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You want to clarify your name? You sick pup? Why then does your corp info brag about killing for Allah?
Ridiculous! You are a complete liar and hypoocrite. You don't even have the courage to stand by your own sick jokes.
Of course the fact that real people die in the real world under such slogans doesn't even occur to you. Nah you just wanna pick on a little corp because you are a *little* boy, and since you have no sense of actual real world decency, you decide to make your badness cool on the very real suffering of others. It's too bad you don't have to face the real world. You might learn some respect.
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thelung187
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Posted - 2005.09.03 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dirty Looks
Alrighty .
I dont really care how anyone feels about the war... but for the various ignoramuses who know nothing beyond what exists in the western world a little clarification.
Al-Hizbul Mujahideen means "Undead Warriors purified by the waters of Hizbul"
Thats all. Now if various real world terrorist groups chose to use the name its not my problem.
Just like if some extremist group starts calling themselves "I.R.O.N" or "Vengeance of the Fallen" theres not much that could be done about it.
So dont get your panties in a bunch. Other than that .. do what you like.
Love you all.
Bye.
Actually, in Arabic, the prefix "al" is the definite article in the word, consequently from where the spanish "el" comes from in version terminologies (alcatifa (carpet) is from the Arabic alqatifah, almohad (pillow) comes from almokhaddah, etc.). The word Hizbul refers to to Quaranic verses Q6:159 and Q30:31~32, in which the words 'shi'ya'an', 'shi'atihi' or 'hizbul' are used, which translates to 'groups', 'sects' or 'party', respectively. Finally, mujahideen literally translates from Arabic as the word "struggler;" only recently has it become associated more with the "holy warrior" definition, to which it can also sometimes be translated.
So basically, what you're saying, is that your corp is named The Struggler Party? Because of course, since we're all Westerners and are without any Arabic-related knowledge, you would know that it reads from right to left. In any event, the translated name seems fitting for the ass-handing VC is going to lay on you.
thelung187 for teh international relations pwnage.
[ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or something |
hired goon
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Posted - 2005.09.03 21:49:00 -
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I agree that the most effective solution is the tried and tested practice of leaving the corp and joining an NPC one for the war duration. Other options include, merging your corp into mine where you will be safe and trained, or convoing me ingame to help dispense justice a bit.
Anyone know if I can gang with them and shoot at their war enemies legally? Or is it as I suspect - they can shoot me but not I them?
WTF SIG NERF 4TL :( |
Skidd Chung
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Posted - 2005.09.03 21:59:00 -
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Hey Vaugue,
I'm glad to see you're standing up to this lamer, I'm in no combat position to help your corp, but if you need location services, neutral scouting of your area of operations and some isk to help your struggle, I'm there dude. Hate to see a young corp where you try to reach out to other players be harrassed by a group of cowardly losers picking on newbie corps.
regards and safe travels,
skidd
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Dirty Looks
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Posted - 2005.09.03 22:21:00 -
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thelung187
your translation is in error.
Different dialects of arabic carry different meaning for the same word...
Just like the word f.a.g has 2 different meanings on 2 different sides of the atlantic.
Hizbul is a small village of ancient reference that existed in Lebanon. Al-Hizbul means "of hizbul"
Mujahideen means Holy warriors who have surrendered their fate to god and therefore do not fear death. Simple as that. Hizbul of the Quraniz versus that you pulled from some internet search has no meaning here.
I am Lebanese and know what am talking about . So quit being lame on the internet .
IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT AM DOING DECLARE WAR. Quit googling up definitions.
This is my last response to this thread. Any other lamers. feel free to war dec :)
C u in game.
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thelung187
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Posted - 2005.09.03 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dirty Looks
thelung187
your translation is in error.
Different dialects of arabic carry different meaning for the same word...
Just like the word f.a.g has 2 different meanings on 2 different sides of the atlantic.
Hizbul is a small village of ancient reference that existed in Lebanon. Al-Hizbul means "of hizbul"
Mujahideen means Holy warriors who have surrendered their fate to god and therefore do not fear death. Simple as that. Hizbul of the Quraniz versus that you pulled from some internet search has no meaning here.
I am Lebanese and know what am talking about . So quit being lame on the internet .
IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT AM DOING DECLARE WAR. Quit googling up definitions.
This is my last response to this thread. Any other lamers. feel free to war dec :)
C u in game.
In your example, you would fall under the "American" definition. Simply because I have a different definition than yours doesn't mean I'm wrong. It just means you're closed minded. Don't be a tool anymore than you already are, I'll put you down like Old Yeller.
[ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or something |
Sitherus
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Posted - 2005.09.03 22:53:00 -
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Dirty is correct it has less to do with the name of the corp and more about making him pay for extortionery tactics :D
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