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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.04 13:19:00 -
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Yesterday I was removed from the Shinra Sponsored Corp list for cussing in a chat window. The precise cussing in question came after I had lost 2 x Apocs in one day to player rats. Always keen to help out with "defence" while others sit in the station doing their nails, I have lost 2 x Apoc and 1 x Scorp in 2 weeks so keen was I to help defend Immensea.
Not only did Manarkok [sic] revoke sponsorship there and then without warning for use of a rude word, he also revoked standings as well (also without warning). All this while we were in the process of trying to organise a response to some player rats outside of a station in Immensea; the problem indeed, had been that most players were INSIDE the station and not going to come out.
Consequently, not only were all of my assets suddenly locked into the stations (90% of everything I own, as I've been working down there since I came back from previously losing 90% of everything I own), but another corp member in an iteron V warping to the station with a full set of expensive expanders was ganked by the said player pirates camped outside the station because the sudden revokation of sponsorship denied him the expected docking access.
So, if any of you are planning on taking Shinra up on their "passport" scheme, think again. You don't get loyalty points from Shinra for helping to defend their space.
Finally, thanks to those Shinra Sponsored Corps/Players from Immensea who, noting the unbelivable injustice of the whole thing, have offered their help to me subsequently, while no doubt keeping their support to themselves for fear of having the same thing happen to them. Fortunately, I can get started again with what I have, in carebear space, if I can be arsed. 
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Agil Scout
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Posted - 2005.09.04 13:32:00 -
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Well mate your title aint going to help you get your gear back mate, sad as it is mate its a case of too many eggs in one basket when it come to player owned stations.
When you get enuf stuff of value keep in the nearest npc stn for gods sake.
I dont think Mararok will have reset your standingds for niothing hes a good guy, sure u could ask some ppl further up the ladder, mailing them kill mails as proof of your defence of the region and asking for Grace to get your stuff out 24hrs will be enuf.
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JoeSomebody
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Posted - 2005.09.04 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: JoeSomebody on 04/09/2005 13:34:53
similar thing happen to me as well... except i was smart enough to move my assets out before i got kicked out of Shinra. Some ppl just think they some kind of celebrities and the world around owes them something, same as im sure they think your corp supposed to be grateful them for being in their 0.0 defending it and mining for them. Just get your stuff out and leave poor ignorant kiddies alone.
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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.04 13:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Agil Scout
Well mate your title aint going to help you get your gear back mate, sad as it is mate its a case of too many eggs in one basket when it come to player owned stations.
When you get enuf stuff of value keep in the nearest npc stn for gods sake.
I dont think Mararok will have reset your standingds for niothing hes a good guy, sure u could ask some ppl further up the ladder, mailing them kill mails as proof of your defence of the region and asking for Grace to get your stuff out 24hrs will be enuf.
Hmm to be honest, if you read the post, I wasn't asking for it back. If I have to kiss ass for it, it isn't worth having. 24 hours? The thought of spending 24 hours hauling between stations and empire.... I'm losing the will to live already. No, my point was that standings were suddenly revoked, without warning.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2005.09.04 15:15:00 -
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just think about it,
shnra is getting mony, and also help from you - they wouldnt kick u out of the program without a reason.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.09.04 15:54:00 -
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Right, lets start with JoeSomebody.
You chose to leave the corp after being unable to accept someone making jokes in corp chat, you weren't thrown out until you made a thread on the recruitment forum whilst you were still in Shinra.
Now, babyblue.
Last night I saw what happened, and I can't say I was impressed. You were given a warning after arguing with Marnarok, then you carried on and were given 3 days to move your stuff out. And you couldn't shut up, so those 3 days were revoked. As a result, because I've known you for a long time I managed to get a deal where you'd be allowed to get your stuff out after 3 days.
Needless to say, you are now not going to get that opportunity.
Dug your own grave. 
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Wrok
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Posted - 2005.09.04 16:20:00 -
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Anaconda strikes again...Wrok will be around there tonight. ;)
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dj lightning
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Posted - 2005.09.04 16:49:00 -
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Needless to say, you are now not going to get that opportunity.
Dug your own grave.
i would have done this as well.
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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.04 17:01:00 -
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Edited by: babyblue on 04/09/2005 17:02:44
Originally by: The Enslaver
Now, babyblue.
Last night I saw what happened, and I can't say I was impressed. You were given a warning after arguing with Marnarok
Lol, I didn't argue with Marnarkok, I simply said that for those people without the ability to use teamspeak, such as myself at present, someone in the TS gang simply has to relay orders in the gang chat. Marnarkok confused the issue completely by encouraging TWO GANGS when one would have been better. In fact, apart from saying "you are all going to die", I can't think of anything he contributed that was useful.
Originally by: The Enslaver
then you carried on and were given 3 days to move your stuff out. And you couldn't shut up, so those 3 days were revoked.
No Ens, that didn't happen. It was like this - please tell me where 3 days was mentioned...... :
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:33 ] Marnarok > youa re banned from this chnnel
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:36 ] Marnarok > also leave immensea
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:38 ] Marnarok > thanks
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:42 ] Marnarok > youa re no more snra sponsored
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:44 ] babyblue > I certainly will thanks.
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:01 ] Marnarok > ok
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:04 ] babyblue > I lost 2 apocs for immensea today already
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:08 ] babyblue > because others do nothing.
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:09 ] Marnarok > also youa re KOS in our territiory
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:11 ] Marnarok > bye
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:23 ] babyblue > cool by me.dings.
Originally by: The Enslaver
As a result, because I've known you for a long time I managed to get a deal where you'd be allowed to get your stuff out after 3 days.
Lol again. Are you seriously telling me you got me this great deal but just didn't get around to telling me about it? Do me a favour. This is just more Shinra guff because it doesn't look good for you.
Originally by: The Enslaver
Needless to say, you are now not going to get that opportunity.
I don't want my stuff back. It will stay in those stations until someone kicks Shinras gigantic butt out of there again. It will happen eventually. I don't mind if it's in two years time.
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Aldari Verve
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Posted - 2005.09.04 17:25:00 -
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Honestly if i were you i wouldn't have kept my items there in the first place. I know you aren't trying to get them back just trying to figure out why your standings reset. Nothing is certain in 0.0 especially the player stations. Someone allowing you to use their station is always sketchy. As far as giving up and not hualing your stuff. I had a entire corp hangar full of stuff when the corp i was in charge of disbanded and i moved it 4 times before i found a home in Curse with Black Omega Security. But the best of luck man i hope you recover from this.
-Aldari
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.09.04 17:27:00 -
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S**T I thought I could put some smack in here but i can't find the relation with XaHyPuK!
Btw, we had warned you... but as someone said : you produce money for shnra you defend their space, they wouldn't kick you for no reason...? yes?
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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JoeSomebody
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Posted - 2005.09.04 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Right, lets start with JoeSomebody.
You chose to leave the corp after being unable to accept someone making jokes in corp chat, you weren't thrown out until you made a thread on the recruitment forum whilst you were still in Shinra.
1) Rest assured my reasoning goes way beyond maturity of sertain Shinra member.
2) Why would you kick someone who _already_ openly declared his intention to leave corp and had his roles _already_ removed? Give me just one good reason! No? Well I'll give you one - pathetic backstabbing attempt on former member, to lock him in the middle of 0.0 with no positive statnding to anyone miles around. Good thing after spending some time in Shinra I expected this kind treatment from "senior" members and didnt let you catch me with my pants down.
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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.04 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega
S**T I thought I could put some smack in here but i can't find the relation with XaHyPuK!
Btw, we had warned you... but as someone said : you produce money for shnra you defend their space, they wouldn't kick you for no reason...? yes?
Actually, the OP reference to XaHy was more related to the fact that I hope he manages to get more Shinra scalps in future, even though he's taken 2 of my Apocs in the past. After my treatment at the hands of these Cartoon Characters, I'm now thinking that he's actually a good bloke.
If you also look at the OP, I said I was booted for cussing in a channel after losing yet another ship, I did not say I was booted for no reason. I can't remember a time when I haven't seen cussing in channel when ships start going down. Actually, I last cussed in a channel about six months ago. As I also said, I was booted at that moment and without warning resulting in my losing all of my assets plus those assets outside the station that were no longer able to dock.
Please read the OP properly!
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savageone
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Posted - 2005.09.04 17:59:00 -
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baby blue you waiting for someone to cry you a river because I have know shinra for a long time and your lying so go tell someone who cares
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.09.04 18:01:00 -
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ok.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.09.04 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: JoeSomebody
1) Rest assured my reasoning goes way beyond maturity of sertain Shinra member.
True, it was just an exuse used to leave due to your dislike of actually working towards anything.
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2) Why would you kick someone who _already_ openly declared his intention to leave corp and had his roles _already_ removed? Give me just one good reason! No? Well I'll give you one - pathetic backstabbing attempt on former member, to lock him in the middle of 0.0 with no positive statnding to anyone miles around. Good thing after spending some time in Shinra I expected this kind treatment from "senior" members and didnt let you catch me with my pants down.
Wait... You are asking why we would kick someone out, if they made a thread on the forums asking for a new corp, whilst wearing a Shinra tag?
Wow, you really are that self-rightrous
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JoeSomebody
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Posted - 2005.09.04 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: JoeSomebody
1) Rest assured my reasoning goes way beyond maturity of sertain Shinra member.
True, it was just an exuse used to leave due to your dislike of actually working towards anything.
I have a rl job thank you very much, now do you? Knowing ammount of you alts I'd say you dont, and think everyone around can spend days mining with army of alts making billions. Well they cant. Welcome to the real world mr. Smartass.
As for my topic on 5 forum, I was just trying to help ppl like you to realise that you shoting yourself in a foot by threatning members, and that was after you Enslaver whined on TS about lack of participation.
How many "away due to <insert rl excuse here>" thread have been made on mining week and right before it? Did you count? Well you better should've. And I was the only one who had balls to say that I dont want to work for ****in nothing. NOTHING! And dont even start about corp needs. Corp doesnt mine fot my ships, why should we all work for your ships? You and couple other "senior" members will be the only ones flying those dreads anyway. All I asked was 20 stupid percent and Lallante said that he is too busy to scratch his ass to calculate splits "for no return"... lol wtf you mean no return? We were mining for _YOUR_ bloody ship. And I mined with everyone for at least three days total (because i was on vacation) and I didnt see him there.
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Wait... You are asking why we would kick someone out, if they made a thread on the forums asking for a new corp, whilst wearing a Shinra tag?
Wow, you really are that self-rightrous
Yes Im asking exactly that. And your answer is basically that ppl leaving Shinra hurt your feelings and thats why you have to kick them first. Im sorry you the one who got esteem issues here, not me.
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2005.09.04 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: The Ratfink on 04/09/2005 20:00:31
you whined cuz wanted to get paid to be in the corp?
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.09.04 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: JoeSomebody
Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: JoeSomebody
1) Rest assured my reasoning goes way beyond maturity of sertain Shinra member.
True, it was just an exuse used to leave due to your dislike of actually working towards anything.
I have a rl job thank you very much, now do you? Knowing ammount of you alts I'd say you dont, and think everyone around can spend days mining with army of alts making billions. Well they cant. Welcome to the real world mr. Smartass.
As for my topic on 5 forum, I was just trying to help ppl like you to realise that you shoting yourself in a foot by threatning members, and that was after you Enslaver whined on TS about lack of participation.
How many "away due to <insert rl excuse here>" thread have been made on mining week and right before it? Did you count? Well you better should've. And I was the only one who had balls to say that I dont want to work for ****in nothing. NOTHING! And dont even start about corp needs. Corp doesnt mine fot my ships, why should we all work for your ships? You and couple other "senior" members will be the only ones flying those dreads anyway. All I asked was 20 stupid percent and Lallante said that he is too busy to scratch his ass to calculate splits "for no return"... lol wtf you mean no return? We were mining for _YOUR_ bloody ship. And I mined with everyone for at least three days total (because i was on vacation) and I didnt see him there.
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Wait... You are asking why we would kick someone out, if they made a thread on the forums asking for a new corp, whilst wearing a Shinra tag?
Wow, you really are that self-rightrous
Yes Im asking exactly that. And your answer is basically that ppl leaving Shinra hurt your feelings and thats why you have to kick them first. Im sorry you the one who got esteem issues here, not me.
so basically your whining cos you got kicked for openly saying you didnt want to participate in a corp op?
stop shooting yourself in the foot
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Dillon Arklight
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Posted - 2005.09.04 20:11:00 -
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TBH i dont think i spoke to you very much but from what u posted on internal Shinra forums id say that your attitude did not match what most corps expect from their members. i.e Working solely for the corp sometimes and not just for yourself.
Shinra and you didnt mix, lets leave it at that and good luck in your new corp.
As for what this thread is all about(Babyblue), everytime ive spoken to marnarok or read/heard about his decisions as far as Immensea is concerned he has been nothing but fair. So once again lets just say that you and Shinra didnt mix and leave it at that.
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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.04 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: savageone
baby blue you waiting for someone to cry you a river
It's funny you say that, not that anyone will in this thread, but I've had some eve-mails since I posted it. All more or less supportive.
Originally by: savageone
because I have know shinra for a long time and your lying so go tell someone who cares
Interesting perspective savageone, but why would I lie? This didn't happen behind the scenes or anything, it happened in a public channel. By posting this thread I have blatantly knobbled my chances of getting my stuff back. I had a choice: to post this or to kiss buttie. What would you do? (honestly, I would be interested to know).
Still, I'm just not sure what the point is of you adding a message to this thread telling me to go and tell someone who cares, when you cared enough to read it in the first place. Moreover, I don't understand what the relation between you knowing Shinra for a long time and me lying would be? That would seem to be predicated on the fact that you are yourself trustworthy and not just an alt.
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JoeSomebody
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Posted - 2005.09.04 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: The Ratfink
Edited by: The Ratfink on 04/09/2005 20:00:31
you whined cuz wanted to get paid to be in the corp?
paid? - no.
be resonable - yes.
Many "senior" members complained to why so few ppl mining and I did my best to explain them the reason. And plz stop pretending you dont know that I _did_ mine with everyone.
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Shimpu
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Posted - 2005.09.04 21:07:00 -
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FIVE words: Don't work for the devil! ;)
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JoeSomebody
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Posted - 2005.09.04 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: JoeSomebody on 04/09/2005 21:11:32
Originally by: Hast
so basically your whining cos you got kicked for openly saying you didnt want to participate in a corp op?
stop shooting yourself in the foot
First of all im not whining. I didnt go to Shinra recruitment thread trolling to make you look bad, you and Enslaver did so to me.
I did not post here to agrue with you either, it is you who again trying to make me look bad while i wasnt even talking to you. So if im nobody looser with bad attitude, then why are you so worried? - Nobody would bielive me anyway, right?
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.09.04 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 04/09/2005 21:41:04
I feel sorry for you. And these 'internal' affairs are often just cover for bad bad things.
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Garnerius De'Nugent
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Posted - 2005.09.04 22:22:00 -
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i hate shinra too. they steal *ALL* of my kills.
(sorry, am feeling left out  )
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.09.04 23:00:00 -
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Typical example of someone running the car in the dirt and then trying to find someone else guilty for it.
-You and them didnt mix
-You ran your mouth, talked big, offended them
-they reacted because they could
-you suffer, since u cant do squat you whine on the forums to get atleast some pats on the back
life goes on.
It is not like you brought any reasonable points or showed any sign that you might think you were actually involved and maybe helped to create this situation....
P.S. life is a biotch at times regardless of my affiliation i feel pity for you and can only hope u learned from your mistakes, meaning either you are more cautious where you store your stuff or more carefull when u run your mouth (knowing when to stop is a wonderfull talent and can prevent escalation 90% of the time).
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.09.05 03:18:00 -
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Edited by: Vince Draken on 05/09/2005 03:19:49
Originally by: JoeSomebody
Edited by: JoeSomebody on 04/09/2005 14:54:17
similar thing happen to me as well... except i was smart enough to move my assets out before i got kicked out of Shinra. Some ppl just think they some kind of celebrities and the world around owes them something, same as im sure they think your corp supposed to be grateful them for being in their 0.0 defending it and mining for them. Just get your stuff out and leave poor ignorant kiddies alone.
btw whats with the topic title? Do you mean XaHuPuk?
edit: err.. XaHyPuK even (damn those russian names  )
*Good luck to whatever corp wants to have a whiny little child like you in it. Your name should have been Joenobody tbfh. In your short time with us, you made more posts than kills(60 posts, 9 kills). I'd wager 90% of the posts were whining about one thing or another. You are far from SNRA material as you arent arent even close to self-sufficient. Besides, you we're well on the kick list like the rest of the trash we took out.
As for the rest of the post, good job bring a dispute to the E-O forums instead our private forums. I'm SURE it will help your cause.
*The above is IC comments and should be treated as such.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.09.05 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: JoeSomebody
Edited by: JoeSomebody on 04/09/2005 14:54:17
similar thing happen to me as well... except i was smart enough to move my assets out before i got kicked out of Shinra. Some ppl just think they some kind of celebrities and the world around owes them something, same as im sure they think your corp supposed to be grateful them for being in their 0.0 defending it and mining for them. Just get your stuff out and leave poor ignorant kiddies alone.
btw whats with the topic title? Do you mean XaHuPuk?
edit: err.. XaHyPuK even (damn those russian names )
*Good luck to whatever corp wants to have a whiny little child like you in it. Your name should have been Joenobody tbfh. In your short time with us, you made more posts than kills(60 posts, 9 kills). I'd wager 90% of the posts were whining about one thing or another. You are far from SNRA material as you arent arent even close to self-sufficient. Besides, you were on the kick list like the rest of the trash we took out.
As for the rest of the post, good job bring a dispute to the E-O forums instead our private forums. I'm SURE it will help your cause.
*The above is IC comments and should be treated as such.
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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.05 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
It is not like you brought any reasonable points or showed any sign that you might think you were actually involved and maybe helped to create this situation....
I suppose all you have to do is re-read what I have written and maybe take in the bits you have selectively missed.
Originally by: Kcel Chim
P.S. life is a biotch at times regardless of my affiliation i feel pity for you and can only hope u learned from your mistakes
You can't on the one hand say `regardless of my affiliation' and on the other hand ignore the main point. I suppose the only posts you think aren't whining are any posts made by 5.
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