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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.04 13:19:00 -
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Yesterday I was removed from the Shinra Sponsored Corp list for cussing in a chat window. The precise cussing in question came after I had lost 2 x Apocs in one day to player rats. Always keen to help out with "defence" while others sit in the station doing their nails, I have lost 2 x Apoc and 1 x Scorp in 2 weeks so keen was I to help defend Immensea.
Not only did Manarkok [sic] revoke sponsorship there and then without warning for use of a rude word, he also revoked standings as well (also without warning). All this while we were in the process of trying to organise a response to some player rats outside of a station in Immensea; the problem indeed, had been that most players were INSIDE the station and not going to come out.
Consequently, not only were all of my assets suddenly locked into the stations (90% of everything I own, as I've been working down there since I came back from previously losing 90% of everything I own), but another corp member in an iteron V warping to the station with a full set of expensive expanders was ganked by the said player pirates camped outside the station because the sudden revokation of sponsorship denied him the expected docking access.
So, if any of you are planning on taking Shinra up on their "passport" scheme, think again. You don't get loyalty points from Shinra for helping to defend their space.
Finally, thanks to those Shinra Sponsored Corps/Players from Immensea who, noting the unbelivable injustice of the whole thing, have offered their help to me subsequently, while no doubt keeping their support to themselves for fear of having the same thing happen to them. Fortunately, I can get started again with what I have, in carebear space, if I can be arsed. 
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Agil Scout
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Posted - 2005.09.04 13:32:00 -
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Well mate your title aint going to help you get your gear back mate, sad as it is mate its a case of too many eggs in one basket when it come to player owned stations.
When you get enuf stuff of value keep in the nearest npc stn for gods sake.
I dont think Mararok will have reset your standingds for niothing hes a good guy, sure u could ask some ppl further up the ladder, mailing them kill mails as proof of your defence of the region and asking for Grace to get your stuff out 24hrs will be enuf.
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JoeSomebody
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Posted - 2005.09.04 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: JoeSomebody on 04/09/2005 13:34:53
similar thing happen to me as well... except i was smart enough to move my assets out before i got kicked out of Shinra. Some ppl just think they some kind of celebrities and the world around owes them something, same as im sure they think your corp supposed to be grateful them for being in their 0.0 defending it and mining for them. Just get your stuff out and leave poor ignorant kiddies alone.
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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.04 13:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Agil Scout
Well mate your title aint going to help you get your gear back mate, sad as it is mate its a case of too many eggs in one basket when it come to player owned stations.
When you get enuf stuff of value keep in the nearest npc stn for gods sake.
I dont think Mararok will have reset your standingds for niothing hes a good guy, sure u could ask some ppl further up the ladder, mailing them kill mails as proof of your defence of the region and asking for Grace to get your stuff out 24hrs will be enuf.
Hmm to be honest, if you read the post, I wasn't asking for it back. If I have to kiss ass for it, it isn't worth having. 24 hours? The thought of spending 24 hours hauling between stations and empire.... I'm losing the will to live already. No, my point was that standings were suddenly revoked, without warning.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2005.09.04 15:15:00 -
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just think about it,
shnra is getting mony, and also help from you - they wouldnt kick u out of the program without a reason.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.09.04 15:54:00 -
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Right, lets start with JoeSomebody.
You chose to leave the corp after being unable to accept someone making jokes in corp chat, you weren't thrown out until you made a thread on the recruitment forum whilst you were still in Shinra.
Now, babyblue.
Last night I saw what happened, and I can't say I was impressed. You were given a warning after arguing with Marnarok, then you carried on and were given 3 days to move your stuff out. And you couldn't shut up, so those 3 days were revoked. As a result, because I've known you for a long time I managed to get a deal where you'd be allowed to get your stuff out after 3 days.
Needless to say, you are now not going to get that opportunity.
Dug your own grave. 
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Wrok
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Posted - 2005.09.04 16:20:00 -
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Anaconda strikes again...Wrok will be around there tonight. ;)
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dj lightning
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Posted - 2005.09.04 16:49:00 -
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Needless to say, you are now not going to get that opportunity.
Dug your own grave.
i would have done this as well.
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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.04 17:01:00 -
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Edited by: babyblue on 04/09/2005 17:02:44
Originally by: The Enslaver
Now, babyblue.
Last night I saw what happened, and I can't say I was impressed. You were given a warning after arguing with Marnarok
Lol, I didn't argue with Marnarkok, I simply said that for those people without the ability to use teamspeak, such as myself at present, someone in the TS gang simply has to relay orders in the gang chat. Marnarkok confused the issue completely by encouraging TWO GANGS when one would have been better. In fact, apart from saying "you are all going to die", I can't think of anything he contributed that was useful.
Originally by: The Enslaver
then you carried on and were given 3 days to move your stuff out. And you couldn't shut up, so those 3 days were revoked.
No Ens, that didn't happen. It was like this - please tell me where 3 days was mentioned...... :
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:33 ] Marnarok > youa re banned from this chnnel
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:36 ] Marnarok > also leave immensea
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:38 ] Marnarok > thanks
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:42 ] Marnarok > youa re no more snra sponsored
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:44 ] babyblue > I certainly will thanks.
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:01 ] Marnarok > ok
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:04 ] babyblue > I lost 2 apocs for immensea today already
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:08 ] babyblue > because others do nothing.
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:09 ] Marnarok > also youa re KOS in our territiory
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:11 ] Marnarok > bye
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:23 ] babyblue > cool by me.dings.
Originally by: The Enslaver
As a result, because I've known you for a long time I managed to get a deal where you'd be allowed to get your stuff out after 3 days.
Lol again. Are you seriously telling me you got me this great deal but just didn't get around to telling me about it? Do me a favour. This is just more Shinra guff because it doesn't look good for you.
Originally by: The Enslaver
Needless to say, you are now not going to get that opportunity.
I don't want my stuff back. It will stay in those stations until someone kicks Shinras gigantic butt out of there again. It will happen eventually. I don't mind if it's in two years time.
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Aldari Verve
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Posted - 2005.09.04 17:25:00 -
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Honestly if i were you i wouldn't have kept my items there in the first place. I know you aren't trying to get them back just trying to figure out why your standings reset. Nothing is certain in 0.0 especially the player stations. Someone allowing you to use their station is always sketchy. As far as giving up and not hualing your stuff. I had a entire corp hangar full of stuff when the corp i was in charge of disbanded and i moved it 4 times before i found a home in Curse with Black Omega Security. But the best of luck man i hope you recover from this.
-Aldari
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.09.04 17:27:00 -
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S**T I thought I could put some smack in here but i can't find the relation with XaHyPuK!
Btw, we had warned you... but as someone said : you produce money for shnra you defend their space, they wouldn't kick you for no reason...? yes?
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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JoeSomebody
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Posted - 2005.09.04 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Right, lets start with JoeSomebody.
You chose to leave the corp after being unable to accept someone making jokes in corp chat, you weren't thrown out until you made a thread on the recruitment forum whilst you were still in Shinra.
1) Rest assured my reasoning goes way beyond maturity of sertain Shinra member.
2) Why would you kick someone who _already_ openly declared his intention to leave corp and had his roles _already_ removed? Give me just one good reason! No? Well I'll give you one - pathetic backstabbing attempt on former member, to lock him in the middle of 0.0 with no positive statnding to anyone miles around. Good thing after spending some time in Shinra I expected this kind treatment from "senior" members and didnt let you catch me with my pants down.
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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.04 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega
S**T I thought I could put some smack in here but i can't find the relation with XaHyPuK!
Btw, we had warned you... but as someone said : you produce money for shnra you defend their space, they wouldn't kick you for no reason...? yes?
Actually, the OP reference to XaHy was more related to the fact that I hope he manages to get more Shinra scalps in future, even though he's taken 2 of my Apocs in the past. After my treatment at the hands of these Cartoon Characters, I'm now thinking that he's actually a good bloke.
If you also look at the OP, I said I was booted for cussing in a channel after losing yet another ship, I did not say I was booted for no reason. I can't remember a time when I haven't seen cussing in channel when ships start going down. Actually, I last cussed in a channel about six months ago. As I also said, I was booted at that moment and without warning resulting in my losing all of my assets plus those assets outside the station that were no longer able to dock.
Please read the OP properly!
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savageone
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Posted - 2005.09.04 17:59:00 -
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baby blue you waiting for someone to cry you a river because I have know shinra for a long time and your lying so go tell someone who cares
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.09.04 18:01:00 -
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ok.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.09.04 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: JoeSomebody
1) Rest assured my reasoning goes way beyond maturity of sertain Shinra member.
True, it was just an exuse used to leave due to your dislike of actually working towards anything.
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2) Why would you kick someone who _already_ openly declared his intention to leave corp and had his roles _already_ removed? Give me just one good reason! No? Well I'll give you one - pathetic backstabbing attempt on former member, to lock him in the middle of 0.0 with no positive statnding to anyone miles around. Good thing after spending some time in Shinra I expected this kind treatment from "senior" members and didnt let you catch me with my pants down.
Wait... You are asking why we would kick someone out, if they made a thread on the forums asking for a new corp, whilst wearing a Shinra tag?
Wow, you really are that self-rightrous
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JoeSomebody
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Posted - 2005.09.04 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: JoeSomebody
1) Rest assured my reasoning goes way beyond maturity of sertain Shinra member.
True, it was just an exuse used to leave due to your dislike of actually working towards anything.
I have a rl job thank you very much, now do you? Knowing ammount of you alts I'd say you dont, and think everyone around can spend days mining with army of alts making billions. Well they cant. Welcome to the real world mr. Smartass.
As for my topic on 5 forum, I was just trying to help ppl like you to realise that you shoting yourself in a foot by threatning members, and that was after you Enslaver whined on TS about lack of participation.
How many "away due to <insert rl excuse here>" thread have been made on mining week and right before it? Did you count? Well you better should've. And I was the only one who had balls to say that I dont want to work for ****in nothing. NOTHING! And dont even start about corp needs. Corp doesnt mine fot my ships, why should we all work for your ships? You and couple other "senior" members will be the only ones flying those dreads anyway. All I asked was 20 stupid percent and Lallante said that he is too busy to scratch his ass to calculate splits "for no return"... lol wtf you mean no return? We were mining for _YOUR_ bloody ship. And I mined with everyone for at least three days total (because i was on vacation) and I didnt see him there.
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Wait... You are asking why we would kick someone out, if they made a thread on the forums asking for a new corp, whilst wearing a Shinra tag?
Wow, you really are that self-rightrous
Yes Im asking exactly that. And your answer is basically that ppl leaving Shinra hurt your feelings and thats why you have to kick them first. Im sorry you the one who got esteem issues here, not me.
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2005.09.04 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: The Ratfink on 04/09/2005 20:00:31
you whined cuz wanted to get paid to be in the corp?
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.09.04 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: JoeSomebody
Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: JoeSomebody
1) Rest assured my reasoning goes way beyond maturity of sertain Shinra member.
True, it was just an exuse used to leave due to your dislike of actually working towards anything.
I have a rl job thank you very much, now do you? Knowing ammount of you alts I'd say you dont, and think everyone around can spend days mining with army of alts making billions. Well they cant. Welcome to the real world mr. Smartass.
As for my topic on 5 forum, I was just trying to help ppl like you to realise that you shoting yourself in a foot by threatning members, and that was after you Enslaver whined on TS about lack of participation.
How many "away due to <insert rl excuse here>" thread have been made on mining week and right before it? Did you count? Well you better should've. And I was the only one who had balls to say that I dont want to work for ****in nothing. NOTHING! And dont even start about corp needs. Corp doesnt mine fot my ships, why should we all work for your ships? You and couple other "senior" members will be the only ones flying those dreads anyway. All I asked was 20 stupid percent and Lallante said that he is too busy to scratch his ass to calculate splits "for no return"... lol wtf you mean no return? We were mining for _YOUR_ bloody ship. And I mined with everyone for at least three days total (because i was on vacation) and I didnt see him there.
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Wait... You are asking why we would kick someone out, if they made a thread on the forums asking for a new corp, whilst wearing a Shinra tag?
Wow, you really are that self-rightrous
Yes Im asking exactly that. And your answer is basically that ppl leaving Shinra hurt your feelings and thats why you have to kick them first. Im sorry you the one who got esteem issues here, not me.
so basically your whining cos you got kicked for openly saying you didnt want to participate in a corp op?
stop shooting yourself in the foot
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Dillon Arklight
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Posted - 2005.09.04 20:11:00 -
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TBH i dont think i spoke to you very much but from what u posted on internal Shinra forums id say that your attitude did not match what most corps expect from their members. i.e Working solely for the corp sometimes and not just for yourself.
Shinra and you didnt mix, lets leave it at that and good luck in your new corp.
As for what this thread is all about(Babyblue), everytime ive spoken to marnarok or read/heard about his decisions as far as Immensea is concerned he has been nothing but fair. So once again lets just say that you and Shinra didnt mix and leave it at that.
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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.04 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: savageone
baby blue you waiting for someone to cry you a river
It's funny you say that, not that anyone will in this thread, but I've had some eve-mails since I posted it. All more or less supportive.
Originally by: savageone
because I have know shinra for a long time and your lying so go tell someone who cares
Interesting perspective savageone, but why would I lie? This didn't happen behind the scenes or anything, it happened in a public channel. By posting this thread I have blatantly knobbled my chances of getting my stuff back. I had a choice: to post this or to kiss buttie. What would you do? (honestly, I would be interested to know).
Still, I'm just not sure what the point is of you adding a message to this thread telling me to go and tell someone who cares, when you cared enough to read it in the first place. Moreover, I don't understand what the relation between you knowing Shinra for a long time and me lying would be? That would seem to be predicated on the fact that you are yourself trustworthy and not just an alt.
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JoeSomebody
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Posted - 2005.09.04 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: The Ratfink
Edited by: The Ratfink on 04/09/2005 20:00:31
you whined cuz wanted to get paid to be in the corp?
paid? - no.
be resonable - yes.
Many "senior" members complained to why so few ppl mining and I did my best to explain them the reason. And plz stop pretending you dont know that I _did_ mine with everyone.
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Shimpu
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Posted - 2005.09.04 21:07:00 -
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FIVE words: Don't work for the devil! ;)
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JoeSomebody
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Posted - 2005.09.04 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: JoeSomebody on 04/09/2005 21:11:32
Originally by: Hast
so basically your whining cos you got kicked for openly saying you didnt want to participate in a corp op?
stop shooting yourself in the foot
First of all im not whining. I didnt go to Shinra recruitment thread trolling to make you look bad, you and Enslaver did so to me.
I did not post here to agrue with you either, it is you who again trying to make me look bad while i wasnt even talking to you. So if im nobody looser with bad attitude, then why are you so worried? - Nobody would bielive me anyway, right?
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.09.04 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 04/09/2005 21:41:04
I feel sorry for you. And these 'internal' affairs are often just cover for bad bad things.
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Garnerius De'Nugent
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Posted - 2005.09.04 22:22:00 -
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i hate shinra too. they steal *ALL* of my kills.
(sorry, am feeling left out  )
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.09.04 23:00:00 -
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Typical example of someone running the car in the dirt and then trying to find someone else guilty for it.
-You and them didnt mix
-You ran your mouth, talked big, offended them
-they reacted because they could
-you suffer, since u cant do squat you whine on the forums to get atleast some pats on the back
life goes on.
It is not like you brought any reasonable points or showed any sign that you might think you were actually involved and maybe helped to create this situation....
P.S. life is a biotch at times regardless of my affiliation i feel pity for you and can only hope u learned from your mistakes, meaning either you are more cautious where you store your stuff or more carefull when u run your mouth (knowing when to stop is a wonderfull talent and can prevent escalation 90% of the time).
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.09.05 03:18:00 -
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Edited by: Vince Draken on 05/09/2005 03:19:49
Originally by: JoeSomebody
Edited by: JoeSomebody on 04/09/2005 14:54:17
similar thing happen to me as well... except i was smart enough to move my assets out before i got kicked out of Shinra. Some ppl just think they some kind of celebrities and the world around owes them something, same as im sure they think your corp supposed to be grateful them for being in their 0.0 defending it and mining for them. Just get your stuff out and leave poor ignorant kiddies alone.
btw whats with the topic title? Do you mean XaHuPuk?
edit: err.. XaHyPuK even (damn those russian names  )
*Good luck to whatever corp wants to have a whiny little child like you in it. Your name should have been Joenobody tbfh. In your short time with us, you made more posts than kills(60 posts, 9 kills). I'd wager 90% of the posts were whining about one thing or another. You are far from SNRA material as you arent arent even close to self-sufficient. Besides, you we're well on the kick list like the rest of the trash we took out.
As for the rest of the post, good job bring a dispute to the E-O forums instead our private forums. I'm SURE it will help your cause.
*The above is IC comments and should be treated as such.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.09.05 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: JoeSomebody
Edited by: JoeSomebody on 04/09/2005 14:54:17
similar thing happen to me as well... except i was smart enough to move my assets out before i got kicked out of Shinra. Some ppl just think they some kind of celebrities and the world around owes them something, same as im sure they think your corp supposed to be grateful them for being in their 0.0 defending it and mining for them. Just get your stuff out and leave poor ignorant kiddies alone.
btw whats with the topic title? Do you mean XaHuPuk?
edit: err.. XaHyPuK even (damn those russian names )
*Good luck to whatever corp wants to have a whiny little child like you in it. Your name should have been Joenobody tbfh. In your short time with us, you made more posts than kills(60 posts, 9 kills). I'd wager 90% of the posts were whining about one thing or another. You are far from SNRA material as you arent arent even close to self-sufficient. Besides, you were on the kick list like the rest of the trash we took out.
As for the rest of the post, good job bring a dispute to the E-O forums instead our private forums. I'm SURE it will help your cause.
*The above is IC comments and should be treated as such.
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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.05 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
It is not like you brought any reasonable points or showed any sign that you might think you were actually involved and maybe helped to create this situation....
I suppose all you have to do is re-read what I have written and maybe take in the bits you have selectively missed.
Originally by: Kcel Chim
P.S. life is a biotch at times regardless of my affiliation i feel pity for you and can only hope u learned from your mistakes
You can't on the one hand say `regardless of my affiliation' and on the other hand ignore the main point. I suppose the only posts you think aren't whining are any posts made by 5.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.09.05 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: babyblue
Originally by: Kcel Chim
It is not like you brought any reasonable points or showed any sign that you might think you were actually involved and maybe helped to create this situation....
I suppose all you have to do is re-read what I have written and maybe take in the bits you have selectively missed.
Originally by: Kcel Chim
P.S. life is a biotch at times regardless of my affiliation i feel pity for you and can only hope u learned from your mistakes
You can't on the one hand say `regardless of my affiliation' and on the other hand ignore the main point. I suppose the only posts you think aren't whining are any posts made by 5.
ironically you tell me to reread my statemeant only to fail comprehending what i wrote yourself....
ill keep it simple:
you whine because u only present your side of the story in the vain hope for some support on the forums while its rather obvious (even by this post) that you helped (and notice a partial blame instead of a full blame here) to escalate a situation to the point of no return.
If you were right or wrong doesnt matter, when cooler heads prevail other less harsher outcomes might have been possible (like the one enslaver mentioned).
However you were, atleast your post makes it sound like that, snappy and small minded and as a result added to a bad situation (beeing removed from a corp for whatever reasons) a far worse aftermath (beeing put on Kos and atleast temporaly stripped of your possessions).
Your second quote is interesting, if YOU reread it carefully u will realized that my statement was "regardless of my affilliation i felt pity for you" not that i support your forum whining or "public slander" attempt.
In the end it must suck to be you and i personally hope ill never come into that situation myself, on the otherhand it shows that negotiation and "people skills" could have turned a bad situation into a bearable one. Sadly you missed that train and now only the road to anger is open for you.
Reading and comprehending 101.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.09.05 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: babyblue
Edited by: babyblue on 04/09/2005 17:22:34
Originally by: The Enslaver
Now, babyblue.
Last night I saw what happened, and I can't say I was impressed. You were given a warning after arguing with Marnarok
Lol, I didn't argue with Marnarkok, I simply said that for those people without the ability to use teamspeak, such as myself at present, someone in the TS gang simply has to relay orders in the gang chat. Marnarkok confused the issue completely by encouraging TWO GANGS when one would have been better. In fact, apart from saying "you are all going to die", I can't think of anything he contributed that was useful.
Originally by: The Enslaver
then you carried on and were given 3 days to move your stuff out. And you couldn't shut up, so those 3 days were revoked.
No Ens, that didn't happen. It was like this - please tell me where 3 days was mentioned...... :
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:33 ] Marnarok > youa re banned from this chnnel
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:36 ] Marnarok > also leave immensea
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:38 ] Marnarok > thanks
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:42 ] Marnarok > youa re no more snra sponsored
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:44 ] babyblue > I certainly will thanks.
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:01 ] Marnarok > ok
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:04 ] babyblue > I lost 2 apocs for immensea today already
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:08 ] babyblue > because others do nothing.
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:09 ] Marnarok > also youa re KOS in our territiory
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:11 ] Marnarok > bye
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:23 ] babyblue > cool by me.dings.
Originally by: The Enslaver
As a result, because I've known you for a long time I managed to get a deal where you'd be allowed to get your stuff out after 3 days.
Lol again. Are you seriously telling me you got me this great deal but just didn't get around to telling me about it? Do me a favour. This is just more Shinra guff because it doesn't look good for you. At no time was I given 3 days to move out. My station access was REMOVED IMMEDIATELY and WITHOUT WARNING. Resulting in, as I said in my OP, the loss of an Iteron V with some nice expanders on.
Originally by: The Enslaver
Needless to say, you are now not going to get that opportunity.
I don't want my stuff back. It will stay in those stations until someone kicks Shinras gigantic butt out of there again. It will happen eventually. I don't mind if it's in two years time. The fact is that Manarkok acted in a totally OTT way. If it were just me I would be wondering if I were in the right or not as that is the kind of character I am, but I've had messages and convos of support from those who witnessed the whole thing. This leads me to believe I have a case that Shinra are out of order.
The point of this post was not to get my stuff back, it was to warn those thinking of Shinra Sponsorship that, as I said, You do not get Loyalty Points from Shinra for helping to defend their space.
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:07 ] babyblue > well done you *******.
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:17 ] babyblue > thanks for the help.
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:27 ] Marnarok > babyblue
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:32 ] Marnarok > youa re banned from this chnnel
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:35 ] Marnarok > also leave immensea
Next time, post the real, full log, ok? The problem stems from you having a very big mouth and very small pvp skills. A not all too uncommon thing for ppl who make forum posts similar to yours.
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Marnarok
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Posted - 2005.09.05 08:42:00 -
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Well, this is the complete log:
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:07 ] babyblue > well done you fu**ers.
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:17 ] babyblue > thanks for the help.
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:27 ] Marnarok > babyblue
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:32 ] Marnarok > you are banned from this chnnel
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:35 ] Marnarok > also leave immensea
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:37 ] Marnarok > thanks
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:42 ] Marnarok > you are no more snra sponsored
[ 2005.09.03 22:40:45 ] babyblue > I certainly will thanks.
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:00 ] Marnarok > ok
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:06 ] babyblue > I lost 2 apocs for immensea today already
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:08 ] Marnarok > also you are KOS in our territiory
[ 2005.09.03 22:41:09 ] babyblue > because others do nothing.
Just few comments
1. We dont tolerate disrespect of any kind between our sponsored corps. Insults enter in this category.
2. RA was camping the station with 3 BS. Babyblue encorage ppl to undock without the proper cordination so they were killed one by one outside the station. Then he insult the ppl who decide to stay docked in the station. A few clases of PVP could help you in the future Baby.
3. It wasnt the first time that "Baby" and his alts (1 man corp) have some trouble with other immensea residents.
So i decide to kick him out of our space with the same consideration he have with the other corps down there.
About Joesomebody, he dont fit in our corp standards.
End of file.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.09.05 08:50:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Shimpu
FIVE words: Don't work for the devil! ;)
One day you will be my biatch. Joe I miss you, please come back.
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Doctor Shady
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Posted - 2005.09.05 09:40:00 -
[35]
ok i am gonna use an alt jsut to tell every one
erm erm ,,, fancy a game of CS?
actually bf2 right now
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Chows Flamealt
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Posted - 2005.09.05 09:56:00 -
[36]
I'm in
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.09.05 13:22:00 -
[37]
Come on Chow - post with all you alts 
I know Agil Scout and XirtamVOTF are your alts too
And I will beat you in any game (but EVE)
EVE System Security - |
babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.05 14:21:00 -
[38]
Originally by: manarkok
lots of stuff...
Actually, not that I want to prolong the length of this thread past the main points, I have to answer your ridiculous post with something more closely approximating the truth, as what you have posted is rubbish. Also, please forgive me for not responding immediately. Unlike some people who have posted in this thread I could name, I actually have a real-life job and pay my taxes.
Firstly, remember that as you don't spend much time in Immensea, you don't know who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. There are a core of people who drop everything when a threat appears and go after it; we all know who we are. There are also many people who could help out but never do. They also know who they are. Finally, there is Shinra, who, like FA in Period Basis some time ago, just pop in every now and then to collect taxes, strip some belts for a dred or two and re-take the stations occasionally when needed.
Anyway, with this "defence" of immensea, sometimes the outcomes are good, sometimes not so. Mostly the attackers get chased away or are forced to log. It usually depends on the commander and, indeed, if there even is one. I am one of those people who drop everything and head out to help, knowing full well that I am crap at solo PvP. I have never pretended I was any good at it, in fact quite the opposite; I am crap and have no problem telling people. I have a handful of solo kills only. But anyway, as I say, I will drop everything and go and help out, because I know I'm actually pretty good at PvP when I'm in a gang lead by a decent fleet commander.
Now, to the situation on Saturday, you were the senior person in chat. Yet you did nothing to help the situation at all. You actually confused the issue by insisting on the formation of another "TS only" gang. So, in effect, you caused much of the problem yourself with the creation of 2 gangs. I know that TS is better, but there are many that can't use it (I'm on 56k at the moment) and also, from experience, it is quite possible for one designated person to relay orders in gang chat for those without TS. This is what I suggested - I have seen it work before, so don't tell me it doesn't.
You are excellent at picking up the taxes, but you are pretty crap at organising people. You are an even worse commander than I would be. If you reply, "how can I command the situation when I am not even in the region", I would say that EXACTLY, you should have stfu. Instead, when you appeared people expected you to act like a leader and you did not. The end result was quite some carnage outside of the station. But that is not enough for you; you are actually blaming me for it! Haha.
I did not tell people to undock, I did say that if we all set for 40k optimal and undocked at once, there was a good chance we would prevail. However, it was amazingly frustrating to (1) find out we weren't the only gang, but one of 2 gangs and (2) that most people who could join up were not even bothering to ask the question. This is what ****ed me off the most, after losing an apoc that day already. I was of course about to sacrifice another one.
Yes, I admit to having cussed in local after losing my ship, again, then gone off on one - but only AFTER YOU HAD ALREADY REMOVED MY RIGHTS, without warning. Anger was the path left to me, when I couldn't dock my Iteron and it was wasted by the enemy. My main point still stands, you don't get any loyalty points from Shinra for helping to defend their space. Perhaps I would have got some, if Shinra actually knew what was going on in their region.
Continued....
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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.05 14:21:00 -
[39]
Now, onto your other points - I have had one run-in with another person in Immensea, yes. I have been attacked TWICE by Sphen. The first time it was him alone in his Tempest, where he failed to break my tank (I did not fire back), the second time it was 3 characters, one of which I killed (and compensated the character for his loss) also none of which could break my tank. The first time Sphen attacked me outside the station in 20-EEW because, after the 8th convo about this very issue, I irritatedly told him to sort his standings out (I did not cuss). Seinar, I do believe, witnessed the convo and told Sphen he was in the wrong and I was in the right. However, even though Seinar heard the convo, he did not know that Sphen actually attacked me outside the station. Reason? Because I didn't bother making a "complaint". I just noted that Sphen was a **** and moved on. The second time Sphen attacked me because I told him to STFU in local - this was after he had previously attacked me and was telling me to get out of a belt I had every right to be in having just been NPC'ing in it (somehow my loot cans disappeared when I returned to pick them up).
So, if you are going to apply "rules of conduct" in your space, try and be even handed. I note Sphen is an ex-Shinra member and perhaps this is the reason he wasn't suddenly booted from Immensea without warning for attacking another corp with Shinra standings.
The fact is, people like you (basically Bank Managers), don't care much for enforcing "rules" in a just way, but care more about your egos and not being seen to lose face in public. That is basically what it all boils down too. The way you people "run" Immensea is pretty much a comedy. And to think you are actually going to start charging people for being there!
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JoeSomebody
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Posted - 2005.09.05 14:45:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Vince Draken
blah blah blah you all suckzorz!!! Shinra pwnz j00!!!1!1!1111oneoneone
t2 tissue?
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JoeSomebody
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Posted - 2005.09.05 14:52:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Marnarok
About Joesomebody, he dont fit in our corp standards.
End of file.
You didnt kick me, I left you. And that is because your corp isnt good enough for me, and not the other way around. If the fact of me lookin for a new corp with shinra tag on upsets you so much, then you clearly have issues with selfesteem. That is not my problem. Accept it and get over it.
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.09.05 14:56:00 -
[42]
Originally by: JoeSomebody
Originally by: Marnarok
About Joesomebody, he dont fit in our corp standards.
End of file.
You didnt kick me, I left you.
Originally by: JoeSomebody
Edited by: JoeSomebody on 04/09/2005 14:54:17
similar thing happen to me as well... except i was smart enough to move my assets out before i got kicked out of Shinra.
So which one then?
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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2005.09.05 15:11:00 -
[43]
reinforcing my point. shinra = lame. end of. 
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JoeSomebody
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Posted - 2005.09.05 15:16:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Cloned Mark
So which one then?
Technically: they kicked me out
In order of events: i left them
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Seinar Dragmire
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Posted - 2005.09.06 02:31:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Seinar Dragmire on 06/09/2005 06:06:39
Edited by: Seinar Dragmire on 06/09/2005 02:31:37
Originally by: JoeSomebody
Originally by: Seinar Dragmire
omg you suck! we didnt want you anyway! you must be sorry that you left us kool kids! it doesnt matter if i make no sense, you still suck!!!1!11!!1111oneoneone
i think i already told you to **** off about a week ago, too bad you just realized that.
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frusfaba joe......frusfaba.....
...frusfaba
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.09.06 19:15:00 -
[46]
ok well, since my role suggests I'm supposed to hate [5], I'll just make a short post full of hate toward them:
boooo Shinra ! booooo !!
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.09.06 19:21:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Seinar Dragmire
Edited by: Seinar Dragmire on 06/09/2005 06:06:39
Edited by: Seinar Dragmire on 06/09/2005 02:31:37
Originally by: JoeSomebody
Originally by: Seinar Dragmire
omg you suck! we didnt want you anyway! you must be sorry that you left us kool kids! it doesnt matter if i make no sense, you still suck!!!1!11!!1111oneoneone
i think i already told you to **** off about a week ago, too bad you just realized that.
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frusfaba joe......frusfaba.....
...frusfaba
Its goozfraba.
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Don ZOLA
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Posted - 2005.09.07 05:30:00 -
[48]
Originally by: danneh
Originally by: Seinar Dragmire
Edited by: Seinar Dragmire on 06/09/2005 06:06:39
Edited by: Seinar Dragmire on 06/09/2005 02:31:37
Originally by: JoeSomebody
Originally by: Seinar Dragmire
omg you suck! we didnt want you anyway! you must be sorry that you left us kool kids! it doesnt matter if i make no sense, you still suck!!!1!11!!1111oneoneone
i think i already told you to **** off about a week ago, too bad you just realized that.
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frusfaba joe......frusfaba.....
...frusfaba
Its goozfraba.
haha excellent movie :D
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Pheole
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Posted - 2005.09.07 23:42:00 -
[49]
baby in case u quit the game, can i have your stuff?
btw n1 shinra for kickin that guy out. just a wannabe with a big mouth and half brain
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Majir Kry
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Posted - 2005.09.09 14:57:00 -
[50]
lol what a thread, OP is kicked/banned and lost all his stuff for cussing on corp chat while logs show other shinra members cussing and not getting kicked/banned from system.
Shinra do come across as hypocrites in this thread to a noob neutral.
/me thinks my noob corp is the safe place to stay.
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Bulzor
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Posted - 2005.09.09 17:34:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Seinar Dragmire
i should clairify my offical stand on all of this...after all being marnarok's right-hand
What an dreadful thought  . I could not have described a member of Shinra better myself.
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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.10 08:35:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Seinar Dragmire
babyblue - tuff ****. Your corp had been causing problems with other immensea corps, all of wich is documented, therefore, good bye
Lol, I can't believe this thread is still up there. I haven't viewed it in nearly a week.
For the above Seinar, congratulations on documenting the "problems" I have been causing other immensea corps. Actually, you mean one corp: "Piranhas Business GheyLords" and within that one corp some **** called Sphen, who has attacked me twice, as documented in a previous post above. I think Haddocks Business Lords would be more appropriate for this corp to be honest. Your documentation needs some "editing" I think. Now, please also edit your post and remove the "plural" in Corps and include the harrassment I have received from this ******* ****head.
If you prefer the Haddocks to my little operation, thats fine. It shows a lot about your character. Also, I'm not crying, I managed to Escrow a lot of stuff and am about 600m up for my brief Shinra Sponsorship. Cheers .
Shinra Spin Machine FTW!!!
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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.10 08:37:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Pheole
baby in case u quit the game, can i have your stuff?
btw n1 shinra for kickin that guy out. just a wannabe with a big mouth and half brain
Who the **** are you? I'm not quitting, never said I was. As for being a big mouth 1/2 brain, I've got a whole brain (actually quite a good one) and can prove it. You? I'll be ordering my fries from you next time I go into Burger King.
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forumposting alt
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Posted - 2005.09.10 11:00:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Bulzor
Originally by: Seinar Dragmire
i should clairify my offical stand on all of this...after all being marnarok's right-hand
What an dreadful thought . I could not have described a member of Shinra better myself.
Priceless.
However, I have it on very good authority that Marnarok favours his left hand and so Seinar's blushes are spared.
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Seinar Dragmire
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Posted - 2005.09.10 15:18:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Seinar Dragmire on 10/09/2005 15:20:06
Originally by: babyblue
Originally by: Seinar Dragmire
babyblue - tuff ****. Your corp had been causing problems with other immensea corps, all of wich is documented, therefore, good bye
Lol, I can't believe this thread is still up there. I haven't viewed it in nearly a week.
For the above Seinar, congratulations on documenting the "problems" I have been causing other immensea corps. Actually, you mean one corp: "Piranhas Business GheyLords" and within that one corp some **** called Sphen, who has attacked me twice, as documented in a previous post above. I think Haddocks Business Lords would be more appropriate for this corp to be honest. Your documentation needs some "editing" I think. Now, please also edit your post and remove the "plural" in Corps and include the harrassment I have received from this ******* ****head.
If you prefer the Haddocks to my little operation, thats fine. It shows a lot about your character. Also, I'm not crying, I managed to Escrow a lot of stuff and am about 600m up for my brief Shinra Sponsorship. Cheers .
Shinra Spin Machine FTW!!!
response: no
and for the reccord...thats nonsense...the left hand cant compare to me...afterall i enjoy being marnarok's right-hand...least i get a good workout, and much more than the left...i could crush you with a single movement of a finger
oh well...its kinda neat how people get ****ed at this game and then resort to propping up on a makeshift high horse and play their fiddle expecting people to drop them isk in their boxes on the street corner...i love Eve
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seanb29
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Posted - 2005.09.10 21:24:00 -
[56]
all i can say is GO SHINRA shinra 4tw
an baby cant believe u made that comment about burger king i work there and have more brains then u just because someone works at a fast food dont mean they r morons
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Sphen
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Posted - 2005.09.12 06:13:00 -
[57]
Oh baby blue, im so sad because i recently know that u leave immensea :(, whom im gonna shoot now? , Im very sad, plz come back!!,whos gonna test my guns
Ps: If u couldnt take ur stuff from the station,u can come anytime SOON and we will 8 GHEY LORDS)gladly give them to u outside the station.
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Marnarok
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Posted - 2005.09.12 14:00:00 -
[58]
Originally by: babyblue
Also, I'm not crying, I managed to Escrow a lot of stuff and am about 600m up for my brief Shinra Sponsorship. Cheers .
Shinra Spin Machine FTW!!!
Thank you for your testimony. This confirms my point that anyone, no matter how stupid, can make money in our regions. That's the real goal.
Come on ladies and gentlemen, there are few places left, you just come for a short time and make in the worst scenario at least 600M.
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joshmanicus
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Posted - 2005.09.12 22:09:00 -
[59]
Originally by: babyblue
Originally by: Pheole
baby in case u quit the game, can i have your stuff?
btw n1 shinra for kickin that guy out. just a wannabe with a big mouth and half brain
Who the **** are you? I'm not quitting, never said I was. As for being a big mouth 1/2 brain, I've got a whole brain (actually quite a good one) and can prove it. You? I'll be ordering my fries from you next time I go into Burger King.
You know. I'm pretty offended right now man. That was a really ****ty thing to say. In fact, now that I've read this, I'm kind of glad to know that you didn't like it in Black Lance because I don't think I would have liked you being in my corp and saying things like this. Come to think of it, now that I've read through all the posts in this thread, I've more or less come to two conclusions.
1) Babyblue is an elitest jerk who really needs to learn some respect for other people and not look down on them so baselessly.
2) Shinra really doesn't look any worse then they did before your bungled attempt at slandering them.
I don't even like the 5, but you come off so high and mighty that I think you got what you deserved.
Yeah, maybe you made some money back after they kicked you out but at least now everyone in-game will know you for the hotheaded arrogant ******* that you really are.
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WildHope
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Posted - 2005.09.13 00:27:00 -
[60]
Edited by: WildHope on 13/09/2005 00:30:25
Originally by: joshmanicus2) Shinra really doesn't look any worse then they did before your bungled attempt at slandering them.
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I swear if we cured world hunger overnight, we'd still have someone b****ing at us about it the next morning.
Wildhope
ShinRa
Curse Alliance (may it last 1000 generations)
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Batar Fireheart
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Posted - 2005.09.17 19:25:00 -
[61]
well get over it mate thats what you get for working scandalous pirates.. and get over losing the apocs ship loss happens in eve.
"MAY YOUR WALLET BE FULL OF ISK AND YOUR CANNONS BLESSED" |
babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.17 19:26:00 -
[62]
Originally by: joshmanicus
1) Babyblue is an elitest jerk who really needs to learn some respect for other people and not look down on them so baselessly.
Do you work at Burger King too?
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seanb29
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Posted - 2005.09.17 21:37:00 -
[63]
i think baby worked at burger king before and got fired for being such a ass
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babyblue
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Posted - 2005.09.17 21:57:00 -
[64]
Originally by: seanb29
i think baby worked at burger king before and got fired for being such a ass
Also, who the **** are you calling me an Ass? Who the **** are you period?
You don't know me. You have no idea what kind of a person I am. You have no idea if my peers respect, like, admire or enjoy my company. You have no idea if I'm clever or stupid. You didn't see my C.V., you don't know what I've been through to feel I have the right to say the things that I do. Basically, you have NO IDEA AT ALL. Except, you are no better, you shoot your mouth off in an ignorant way like a lot of others. Touche. But you know what? I respect you for having the balls to say what you like.
Now tell me, do you want Fries with that?
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JoeSomebody
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Posted - 2005.09.18 02:00:00 -
[65]
jeez would you all stop bumpin this retarded thread already?
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seanb29
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Posted - 2005.09.18 12:13:00 -
[66]
Edited by: seanb29 on 18/09/2005 12:18:09
true baby i dont know u in rl but i have played besides u afew times in 20-eew and yes i want fries with that muwhaa can i get them king size ah btw i do know what u feel i have been thru what u have but not from shinra .my old corp was a member of xetic and i went on vacation come back to c my old corp was no longer xetic an now all my stuff i had in impass is stuck there,but do u c me coming on a forum and *****ing about it
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Soros
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Posted - 2005.09.19 17:12:00 -
[67]
XaHyPuK - Isn't that like russian for alcohilic? 'drunkenone' ?
-= Soros =-
BoB
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.09.20 00:44:00 -
[68]
I didnt have a chance to read all the replies, but Babyblue has my sympathy. I'm sure you must have been cussing something that had sentimental value.
Arrangements like these always have a flipside, regardless of who you are dealing with. Because you have no leverage, your hosts hold all the cards and can do whatever they wish.
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Mr Presidant
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Posted - 2005.09.21 02:18:00 -
[69]
passport wat the heck?, im sorrry but 5 are too big, and need to be tamed with a whip- their at war with hhalf the alliances out their, and the other half dnt like em, but cnt do anything about them, id suggest a eve war on em, and make em fall,
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.09.21 14:50:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Mr Presidant
passport wat the heck?, im sorrry but 5 are too big, and need to be tamed with a whip- their at war with hhalf the alliances out their, and the other half dnt like em, but cnt do anything about them, id suggest a eve war on em, and make em fall,
You can be my mining *****
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Messelina
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Posted - 2005.09.21 17:49:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Marnarok
Baby = Tiny 
Manra = Huge
Why does CCP allow 10 year old to post here It's hard to come on forums anymore unless reading a childish statement like that
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Mr Presidant
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Posted - 2005.09.21 23:41:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Mr Presidant on 21/09/2005 23:41:56
Originally by: Mr Presidant
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passport wat the heck?, im sorrry but 5 are too big, and need to be tamed with a whip- their at war with hhalf the alliances out their, and the other half dnt like em, but cnt do anything about them, id suggest a eve war on em, and make em fall,
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You can be my mining *****
So whens school start?
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nitr0s
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Posted - 2005.09.22 02:20:00 -
[73]
Tagteaming loser alts 4TW.
Anyone that questions age on the Interent has lost the argument before they began.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.09.22 08:52:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Mr Presidant
Edited by: Mr Presidant on 21/09/2005 23:41:56
Originally by: Mr Presidant
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passport wat the heck?, im sorrry but 5 are too big, and need to be tamed with a whip- their at war with hhalf the alliances out their, and the other half dnt like em, but cnt do anything about them, id suggest a eve war on em, and make em fall,
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You can be my mining *****
So whens school start?
LoL best ask your Mum, while your there get someone to show you how to quote properly on the forums.
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David Goodwill
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Posted - 2005.09.22 11:13:00 -
[75]
Originally by: forumposting alt
Originally by: Bulzor
Originally by: Seinar Dragmire
i should clairify my offical stand on all of this...after all being marnarok's right-hand
What an dreadful thought . I could not have described a member of Shinra better myself.
Priceless.
haha, I got that too. Very good
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Mr Presidant
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Posted - 2005.09.22 21:42:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Mr Presidant on 22/09/2005 21:42:27
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Mr Presidant
Edited by: Mr Presidant on 21/09/2005 23:41:56
Originally by: Mr Presidant
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passport wat the heck?, im sorrry but 5 are too big, and need to be tamed with a whip- their at war with hhalf the alliances out their, and the other half dnt like em, but cnt do anything about them, id suggest a eve war on em, and make em fall,
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You can be my mining *****
So whens school start?
LoL best ask your Mum, while your there get someone to show you how to quote properly on the forums.
was an eve bug, i have petitoned
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.09.23 10:41:00 -
[77]
Edited by: j0rz on 23/09/2005 10:41:53
This has to be the sillyst post i have seen since coming back to the game today, altho im sure there are sillier 0_o
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