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var'ulfur
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Posted - 2003.07.26 22:55:00 -
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  the bad thing femme is your marked now. you know when you lay with dogs dont be mad if you get fleas
wolf
talk is cheap the cost of action is enormus
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Talur Lokarn
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Posted - 2003.07.26 23:30:00 -
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The difference though Femme Fatal, is that the person that webified Shintai knew that the cops were going to show up, because it was changed from "non agressive" to "agressive" action...which CCP didn't do with the draining. God knows why.
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Intruders
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Posted - 2003.07.26 23:33:00 -
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Instead of terming defence measures illegal like webify or cap drain, or even cap drain and adding it to your own ship, they should produce counter modules, which in this case some of them are already in game, from preventing someone to target you, as far as it concenrs me they just should add one more to prevent ore thefts, and even introduce a backup ship as the baclkbird only with 1 or 2 more slots to be an escort for miners, or just add a skill that can increase your ECM ECCM slots in any ship to 1 or 2 accordingly, and that would be it.
No punishemnt for ore thieves, and legal pirates, just countermeasures, i know that would suck for freelances since I am one, but at least with the money I make I can afford escorts everywhere.
Every man lives..but not every man dies!
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.07.26 23:38:00 -
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Miners already have an ECM/ECCM ship - it's called a Badger Mk II.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Tehel Necrona
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Posted - 2003.07.27 00:59:00 -
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Edited by: Tehel Necrona on 27/07/2003 01:01:14
**Quack Quack Quack....
Is it because its 1:55am here that i'm falling asleep? Or is it down to the nonesense i'm reading.
Sorry you guys are beyond me, don't even attempt to come across as inoccent here, you sent the first blow and it was below the belt, i won't shed any respect for you as opponents, even if you do gain yourself a victory or two. If you wanted to fight us then sure, go right ahead but gods sake at least do it with some dignity.
Until Next Time.
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PornStarr
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Posted - 2003.07.27 08:35:00 -
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Edited by: ****Starr on 27/07/2003 08:45:06
One question. My apocalypse alone without Cap adding modules has 3900 cap. How the hell did he manage to drain 3900 cap from you? What were you doing actually? Just sitting there crying in local as he drained 10 cap from you per 45 seconds using a Nosferatu??
Edit: Had to add the laughing smile.
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Muffin Man
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Posted - 2003.07.27 11:13:00 -
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I'll throw my two penneth in...
I see both point of the argument (looking strictly from the outside here).
TTI's valid point is - Draining a ships capacitor that is not in your corp or gang should be seen as a hostile act, period, needs sorting by CCP ASAP.
Femme Fatal's argument - With the exception of the draining tactic (which is quite ingenius yet IS an exploit which is CCP's fault not yours) there is nothing wrong with anything you've done, as you state, it's not unfair to start a war with a 300 strong corp.
My advice to TTI, work on your BS's EW....I learnt this lesson well, even the best Battleships aint worth anything if they cant target you, at present I can jam any ship I see, and I can avoid being jammed by any one ship (a combo of ships kitted for jamming is different).
AS for the exploit I hope they work it out soon, nothing worse than people being able to use Concord as a shield.
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j0rt
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Posted - 2003.07.27 11:24:00 -
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Hehe interesting perhaps not so much of an exploit, I actually think its intuitive of them. All games have bugs and ways of getting around things, knowing the game better than anyone else gives you a big advantage. I think you should take it on the chin Taggart, you make yourselves a target by parading yourself around like some sort of super power...troll me 
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.07.27 11:27:00 -
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****Starr,
There are much much better cap draining modules than Nosferatu 1's.
Unstable Power 1's are the best I've seen (20MW cost for 25MW drain) and Shintai may have had 8 of them equipped.
Still, you have to wonder whether the b-ship fly was AFK when Shintai started draining.......
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Mark A
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Posted - 2003.07.27 12:53:00 -
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Edited by: Mark A on 27/07/2003 13:06:52
Edited by: Mark A on 27/07/2003 13:00:41
Edited by: Mark A on 27/07/2003 12:54:01
We did use an array of EW gear against Shintai's Megathron (using 3 cruisers), just to get the message across. While he wasn't going to open fire near a jumpgate in empire space, I doubt he could have locked his own hood ornament by the time we were done.
Yes, the webify was a bit over-enthusiastic, but I guess served to demonstrate that we had a bunch of other modules not yet in play, and if he hadn't been in empire space we would have had him gagged & snagged until the other battleship jumped in to waste him.
I guess if I were a politician I'd remind people that TTI's "don't f**k with us and we won't f**k with you" policy is still very much in effect. However I'm a combat pilot and personally I'm hoping there are more laser-brains like Femme Fatality out there so we can add more popsicles to our trophy cabinet.
*edit* Here's the link in case you missed it: http://tti.fragland.net/forums/download.php?id=997
*edit* TTI members can read a more detailed op report on the Mulligan Defense forum.
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