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Adam Armer The Citadel S 0	Posted - 2013.04.03 07:31:00 - [1] - Quote So, because this is a "GAME": I do missions and be happy then someone warps on me and steal my loot I shoot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing the loot He ask for 100 mill or he wardec because I shot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing "MY" LOOT he wardec and clearly states that he will not allow me to do missions or anything anymore Then when we complain about this **** we get answer "This is a GAME, and that is NORMAL GAME play" Thank you "GAME" Notes: 1- I'm not trolling 2- I'm not talking about ninja salvaging (because I had ninjas come and salvage my wrecks and go leaving my loot alone) 3- I'm not whining because this would be in a different way if I want to whine 4- I'm not trolling 5- Spare yourself and myself the time to write/read stupid comments like GTFO etc etc because it was nice knowing a "GAME" called EVE for the past 7 months Basically keeping the 30% happy on the account of ruining the "GAME" for the 70% is something normal around here /thread /GAME
ChromeStriker The Riot Formation Unclaimed. 516	Posted - 2013.04.03 07:36:00 - [2] - Quote ... Join a bigger corp? or dont complain theres a bigger fish in the pond...? - Nulla Curas
ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance 2165	Posted - 2013.04.03 07:40:00 - [3] - Quote And? Just get some cruisers and shoot him when he shows up. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
Galan Amarias Kantian Principle 5	Posted - 2013.04.03 07:40:00 - [4] - Quote Do you have citations for this 70% who is unhappy? As for the war dec, fit ships and kill, or ditch your corp and go to the noob corp. You can not be wardecced in noob corp. Seriously your enjoyment was destroyed because people want to interact wit you? You may want a single player experience.
Hra Neuvosto FinFleet Raiden. 23	Posted - 2013.04.03 07:41:00 - [5] - Quote "Our believe is there is still room for new people/corps in EVE and with hard work we will be able to earn our place amongest the best corps out there, to excel in both PVP/PVE and Industry as well" This is what your corp description says, this is the perfect time to start working on your pvp skills.
Caitlyn Tufy Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 225	Posted - 2013.04.03 07:47:00 - [6] - Quote Quote: So, because this is a "GAME": I do missions and be happy then someone warps on me and steal my loot I shoot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing the loot He ask for 100 mill or he wardec because I shot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing "MY" LOOT he wardec and clearly states that he will not allow me to do missions or anything anymore Then when we complain about this **** we get answer "This is a GAME, and that is NORMAL GAME play" Thank you "GAME" There's a reason EVE is famous for its learning curve. It's not yours unless you can defend it and the moment you undock, you consent to pvp. CONCORD in High Sec isn't there to protect you, it's a sort of "tax" for those who are out to kill you and if they deem you a worthy target, they WILL kill you. Simply put, if you can't handle it, this isn't a game for you. There are plenty of traditional MMOs out there if you wish to play that way.
Derdrom Utida Brave Newbies Inc. 28	Posted - 2013.04.03 08:05:00 - [7] - Quote So someone was mean to you and you think it's the game's fault? No, you should realize that you're on a level playing field. Get skills, or get friends, or get a merc corp to slaughter the guy. It's a war dec, and it doesn't grant him invulnerability from you. The best tears in the game are the tears of wardeccers that get shot up by supposed carebears.
Singular Snowflake New Order Logistics CODE. 164	Posted - 2013.04.03 08:15:00 - [8] - Quote Adam Armer wrote: So, because this is a "GAME": I do missions and be happy then someone warps on me and steal my loot I shoot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing the loot He ask for 100 mill or he wardec because I shot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing "MY" LOOT he wardec and clearly states that he will not allow me to do missions or anything anymore Then when we complain about this ** we get answer "This is a GAME, and that is NORMAL GAME play" Thank you "GAME" Notes: 1- I'm not trolling 2- I'm not talking about ninja salvaging (because I had ninjas come and salvage my wrecks and go leaving my loot alone) 3- I'm not whining because this would be in a different way if I want to whine 4- I'm not trolling 5- Spare yourself and myself the time to write/read stupid comments like GTFO etc etc because it was nice knowing a "GAME" called EVE for the past 7 months Basically keeping the 30% happy on the account of ruining the "GAME" for the 70% is something normal around here /thread /GAME ** off
Grunanca Sickology 0	Posted - 2013.04.03 08:16:00 - [9] - Quote Adam Armer wrote: So, because this is a "GAME": I do missions and be happy then someone warps on me and steal my loot I shoot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing the loot He ask for 100 mill or he wardec because I shot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing "MY" LOOT he wardec and clearly states that he will not allow me to do missions or anything anymore Then when we complain about this **** we get answer "This is a GAME, and that is NORMAL GAME play" Thank you "GAME" Notes: 1- I'm not trolling 2- I'm not talking about ninja salvaging (because I had ninjas come and salvage my wrecks and go leaving my loot alone) 3- I'm not whining because this would be in a different way if I want to whine 4- I'm not trolling 5- Spare yourself and myself the time to write/read stupid comments like GTFO etc etc because it was nice knowing a "GAME" called EVE for the past 7 months Basically keeping the 30% happy on the account of ruining the "GAME" for the 70% is something normal around here /thread /GAME I dont see what you are complaining about? Someone is finally trying to get you into the fun part of the game, and you say you cant play it? You should thank him and go out to kill him. (ingame that is)
Jint Hikaru OffWorld Exploration Inc 562	Posted - 2013.04.03 08:17:00 - [10] - Quote Hra Neuvosto wrote: "Our believe is there is still room for new people/corps in EVE and with hard work we will be able to earn our place amongest the best corps out there, to excel in both PVP/PVE and Industry as well" This is what your corp description says, this is the perfect time to start working on your pvp skills. Exactly this....! If you are going to join a corp, then Man-Up and accept the war-dec, its part of the game. On a more serious (and less flaming) note: DON'T pay the 100mil, you will forever be labeled as an easy mark. Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 7293	Posted - 2013.04.03 08:19:00 - [11] - Quote I too make nonsense up http://i.imgur.com/Kfb4w0D.png ~a proud belligerent undesirable~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8
Emma Royd Maddled Gommerils 218	Posted - 2013.04.03 08:23:00 - [12] - Quote Loot is yours, Salvage is anybody's who finds it. They can salvage the wreck but get suspect flagged if they take any of the modules etc that are either in the wreck (solid triangle rather than empty) or from a cargo container that is spawned when you salvage a wreck with contents. People make reasonable isk salvaging (I was going to put stealing salvage, but since it doesn't belong to you they can't steal it) and if you keep getting your stuff stolen then move system to a quieter system. This is eve, where people WILL violate your space canoe, will steal your stuffs, and will try and make sure you don't "have a nice day" But this is also eve where there are plenty of agents in quiet systems that you can mission run for in peace if you wish to. I can honestly say I've probably run thousands of missions in my time, and can count on 1 hand the number of times people have come into the site and taken stuff, I normally warp out and let them deal with the rats, then warp back in when they've gone. If you're determined to mission ***** in a major mission hub then you will get ninja salvagers as it's worth their time since they know there will be plenty of wrecks in space for the taking.
Ifly Uwalk Empire Tax Collection Agency 623	Posted - 2013.04.03 08:30:00 - [13] - Quote /me reaches for notepad, jots down, rather idly, "The Citadel S;" whistles a certain theme while doing so.
Solhild Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 922	Posted - 2013.04.03 08:38:00 - [14] - Quote Leave the char in station when wardecced if you don't want to fight yet. Train first alt while that char is in station, enjoy more missions, perhaps make the alt a different faction for variety. Use your 2nd alt as an alpha clone in an NPC corp and enjoy the possibilities. ...remember that someone is there wasting isk wardeccing your other char
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 37	Posted - 2013.04.03 08:44:00 - [15] - Quote Understand CCP allows sociopaths to play the game. It's a parasitic relationship. CCP allows them to do almost what they please, and they pay CCP to screw them. Now you know why they're so gung-ho nasty, as they're now too far into the game to leave (addicted even), and must convince themselves they weren't "had". The ultimate scam in the game. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Dasola Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire 171	Posted - 2013.04.03 08:55:00 - [16] - Quote War decks happen, only thing you can do about them is learn sufficient level of PVP to make yourself look very unattractive target for those griefers. Also being sufficient size large corp helps, as long as most of you do not fear PVP. We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do...
octahexx Charante Morior Invictus. The Retirement Club 76	Posted - 2013.04.03 08:56:00 - [17] - Quote just rally your troops and fit up some pvp ships dude your in the game who has the BEST pvp in the world, have fun!
Xen Solarus Inner 5phere 323	Posted - 2013.04.03 09:06:00 - [18] - Quote If running missions solo is what you enjoy, and you cant see yourself trying EvE's other aspects, i'd recommend dropping from your corp to an NPC one. That way, you can shoot your wrecks to prevent them from salvaging them, and their threats won't mean a damn thing. Ninja-salvagers are the lowest form of EvE player imo, parasitic bottom-feeders that they are. Not much you can do about them though, if you're unwilling to try a bit of PvP. Post with your main, like a BOSS!
Aquila Shadow Midnight Security Consulting 129	Posted - 2013.04.03 09:09:00 - [19] - Quote YOU THINK THIS IS JUST A GAME?!? -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á "Let Vigilance Be Your Sword"
Emu Meo Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 98	Posted - 2013.04.03 09:17:00 - [20] - Quote Adam Armer wrote: So, because this is a "GAME": I do missions and be happy then someone warps on me and steal my loot I shoot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing the loot He ask for 100 mill or he wardec because I shot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing "MY" LOOT he wardec and clearly states that he will not allow me to do missions or anything anymore Then when we complain about this **** we get answer "This is a GAME, and that is NORMAL GAME play" Thank you "GAME" Notes: 1- I'm not trolling 2- I'm not talking about ninja salvaging (because I had ninjas come and salvage my wrecks and go leaving my loot alone) 3- I'm not whining because this would be in a different way if I want to whine 4- I'm not trolling 5- Spare yourself and myself the time to write/read stupid comments like GTFO etc etc because it was nice knowing a "GAME" called EVE for the past 7 months Basically keeping the 30% happy on the account of ruining the "GAME" for the 70% is something normal around here /thread /GAME Don't let the door hit you on the way out. o/

DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 6322	Posted - 2013.04.03 09:25:00 - [21] - Quote You're new and don't know this but Eve wasn't like that a few years ago. When I started playing this game, there was no 'Ninja Salvaging', 'Mission Invasion' or 'Hulkageddon' crap. Rarely ever heard about 'Suicide Gank'. In fact the new MO now is to coerce ISK from players calling it a permit to operate in high sec. Regardless of what others say, those activities are not normal gameplay. In the past few years, griefers have been multiplying and infesting this game, advertising and disguising that crap as player generated content. Posting about it just attracts a lot of trolls, much like the ones infesting this thread. However, this quote has some good advice : Emma Royd wrote: Loot is yours, Salvage is anybody's who finds it. They can salvage the wreck but get suspect flagged if they take any of the modules etc that are either in the wreck (solid triangle rather than empty) or from a cargo container that is spawned when you salvage a wreck with contents. People make reasonable isk salvaging (I was going to put stealing salvage, but since it doesn't belong to you they can't steal it) and if you keep getting your stuff stolen then move system to a quieter system. This is eve, where people WILL violate your space canoe, will steal your stuffs, and will try and make sure you don't "have a nice day" But this is also eve where there are plenty of agents in quiet systems that you can mission run for in peace if you wish to. I can honestly say I've probably run thousands of missions in my time, and can count on 1 hand the number of times people have come into the site and taken stuff, I normally warp out and let them deal with the rats, then warp back in when they've gone. If you're determined to mission ***** in a major mission hub then you will get ninja salvagers as it's worth their time since they know there will be plenty of wrecks in space for the taking. There's lot's of ways to get even or bypass the ass. You can leave corp, go to another area, set a trap for them, hire Merc corp to fight them, etc. Anyway, good luck to you. DMC
Pak Narhoo Splinter Foundation 929	Posted - 2013.04.03 09:29:00 - [22] - Quote It's sad that people like the OP even after 7 month's still think that playing just one little (and boring) part of the EVE entitles them to avoid the rest of the game. Newsflash for the OP: EVE is not a single player game. Live with the fact (and be prepared to act upon it) that there is always someone who will do his/her/its utmost best to ruin your day or accept that EVE isn't for you and go back solving stoopid puzzles in "Dead space 3".
Sable Moran Moran Light Industries 133	Posted - 2013.04.03 10:27:00 - [23] - Quote Adam Armer wrote: I do missions and be happy then someone warps on me and steal my loot I shoot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing the loot He ask for 100 mill or he wardec because I shot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing "MY" LOOT he wardec and clearly states that he will not allow me to do missions or anything anymore Then when we complain about this **** we get answer "This is a GAME, and that is NORMAL GAME play" You know... You can avoid all of that just by selecting your missioning system intelligently. Over all the years I've played eve I have my mission pocket invaded only once. Those boys weren't really interested in my loot at all though, they just wanted another killmail. Oh yeah. One more thing; Can I have your stuff? Malcanis for CSM 8 Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Labs Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene.
Rhivre TarNec 31	Posted - 2013.04.03 12:00:00 - [24] - Quote DeMichael Crimson wrote: You're new and don't know this but Eve wasn't like that a few years ago. When I started playing this game, there was no 'Ninja Salvaging', 'Mission Invasion' or 'Hulkageddon' crap. Rarely ever heard about 'Suicide Gank'. In fact the new MO now is to coerce ISK from players calling it a permit to operate in high sec. Regardless of what others say, those activities are not normal gameplay. In the past few years, griefers have been multiplying and infesting this game, advertising and disguising that crap as player generated content. DMC I agree with much of your post, but take issue with this part. When I joined in 2008, there was ninja salvaging, and it was more prevalent than now.... Mission invasions (suddenly ninjas) were a bigger threat than they are today, because we did not have the "Abandon all wrecks" or the Suspect flagging system we have today. There was selling of mining permits to miners, with wardecs if they did not buy them, and Privateers were causing havoc for small corps in high-sec. James315 and the new order are hardly doing anything new, and even their price for a permit is cheaper, it used to be 30m/month/miner, or 100m/month per mining corp. The first hulkageddon was late 2009. There was definitely suicide ganking and bothering of missions prior to my joining eve, a quick search of the forums will show that. Player Generated Content has been a selling point since the first big scam in the first years of the game, piracy has been around for just as long, the old CSM (When it was a council, selected by CCP, much like they want to do with the first DUST one) note show that the ebil side of eve was discussed in 2004. Eve was never a fluffy place where it was safe in high-sec
Skeln Thargensen Filthy Carebear Tax Avoidance Shell Corp 74	Posted - 2013.04.03 12:20:00 - [25] - Quote As already said you can drop your one man corp if you're getting griefed. it cost this guy 50M ISK to pick on you and he hopes you don't know this because you're a new player. To avoid ninja looters/salvagers in general, you need to move away from popular agent systems, especially trade hubs. I think the only time I've been ninja looted was running federation navy missions out of dodixie and since agent quality is now equal (for same security status system) there's no need to present yourself for plundering. And once you can run L4s fast you'll realise most loot/salvage is garbage money compared to the faster LP accrual and storyline mission access which yield the top tier implants as bonuses. I feel like a tourist in this game.
Takseen Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 420	Posted - 2013.04.03 12:54:00 - [26] - Quote Just drop to an NPC corp and blitzrun missions if he's around, don't worry about the loot. He's more likely trying to get a fight from you but if you turn him down he'll get bored and go elsewhere. You could try to pvp him I guess, but by all accounts highsec pvp is terrible so I wouldn't bother.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 3991	Posted - 2013.04.03 12:56:00 - [27] - Quote The most disturbing part is knowing there's still someone bothering with L4 missions. Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
Zixie Draco Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 172	Posted - 2013.04.03 13:23:00 - [28] - Quote It's not "your" loot until it is safe in your hangar. Because EVE. Would you like a kitten?
Jame Jarl Retief Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy 1056	Posted - 2013.04.03 13:34:00 - [29] - Quote Umm, OP, the only reply to your post that leaps to mind is: "Umm, yes? And?" Seriously, not all games are the same. If you want to mission in peace, there's tons of games that allow you to do that. If you don't like it, there's no use arguing about it, just take your money and move on to another game. It's the best stimulus I know of to make a business see sense.
Jenn aSide STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries 1546	Posted - 2013.04.03 13:34:00 - [30] - Quote Adam Armer wrote: So, because this is a "GAME": I do missions and be happy then someone warps on me and steal my loot I shoot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing the loot He ask for 100 mill or he wardec because I shot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing "MY" LOOT he wardec and clearly states that he will not allow me to do missions or anything anymore Then when we complain about this **** we get answer "This is a GAME, and that is NORMAL GAME play" Thank you "GAME" Notes: 1- I'm not trolling 2- I'm not talking about ninja salvaging (because I had ninjas come and salvage my wrecks and go leaving my loot alone) 3- I'm not whining because this would be in a different way if I want to whine 4- I'm not trolling 5- Spare yourself and myself the time to write/read stupid comments like GTFO etc etc because it was nice knowing a "GAME" called EVE for the past 7 months Basically keeping the 30% happy on the account of ruining the "GAME" for the 70% is something normal around here /thread /GAME When people ask "why all the hate for high sec", here is another "example" post.



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