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Michael Turate The Scope Gallente Federation 44	Posted - 2013.04.03 21:27:00 - [61] - Quote Tough love here buddy so get ready. You have no friends, you are running L4's in a one man corp that you might flesh out with your alts. You would like the rules that govern real life to disappear here because you're in a game world and that should allow you to be whatever you want to be right? Wrong, part of the thrill of Eve is that it functions very much like the real world and real world skills are needed if you want to survive and then prosper. The bullies here are the same as everywhere, they search out weak and vulnerable or pompous people and exploit them. Predators look for signs, when you've been in the game a long time they are easy to spot. What signs? Your badly spelt and confused corp description, your location, an invite only 1 member corp suggesting it will grow to be mighty and powerful, the aspirational rhetoric, We are a gruop of people who respect each other (sic) How are you a group, the two contacts you mention possibly? The two alts who were born at or around the same time as the guy who heads up the 1 man corp? To the bad men in Eve, you are a walking, talking pi+¦ata and they'll dip your juicy dumplings in plum sauce and tuck in. You need to search out a good quality corporation that does the things you like to do and sign up. This will open up a whole new world of content and interaction and it will mean that you will no longer face threats alone, in fact you probably won't face threats at all because griefers don't like people with friends and they don't like people that fight back. YOU are making YOURSELF a victim, the predators are just doing what predators do. If you walk around cities at night on your own then eventually someone will grab you and put their little finger up your bottom. Don't be that bottom, you don't have to feel the finger.
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 46	Posted - 2013.04.03 23:37:00 - [62] - Quote Michael Turate wrote: Tough love here buddy so get ready. You have no friends, you are running L4's in a one man corp that you might flesh out with your alts. You would like the rules that govern real life to disappear here because you're in a game world and that should allow you to be whatever you want to be right? Wrong, part of the thrill of Eve is that it functions very much like the real world and real world skills are needed if you want to survive and then prosper. Real tough love here buddy so get ready... Quote: GÇ£EVE is the big boysGÇÖ playground; it resembles the real world.GÇ¥ / GÇ£EVE is alive and despite its SciFi image resembles real life quite well.GÇ¥ - This is another common GÇ£EvE elitistGÇ¥ quote on why EvE is so great. EvE doesnGÇÖt resemble real life, itGÇÖs just complicated like real life is. If griefers and flat-out murderers (you can kill a personGÇÖs pod in EvE, effectively killing their character) were given the same punishments as griefers and murderers in the real world, EvE would actually be a much better place and weed out all of the assholes like this guy. How about we ban charactersGÇÖ accounts for life for murdering another character? Or would that then be too real world for you? Simply put, EvE is great for griefers and scammers because theyGÇÖre unregulated, EXACTLY UNLIKE the real world. EvE isn't anything like the real world. A game isn't about the real world. If it was we'd actually have a real police force in EvE, a jail for those awaiting trial, and an execution house for the condemned waiting to be executed. So the scammers; drug sellers and murderers in EvE don't face real world consequences. Why? EvE is just a game. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Baggo Hammers Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2013.04.04 00:22:00 - [63] - Quote Goldshire is calling.
Tesal 257	Posted - 2013.04.04 00:34:00 - [64] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: When people ask "why all the hate for high sec", here is another "example" post. The people in hi-sec are ruining this game. I quit. I'm giving away all my assets for 1 tritanium.
DuKackBoon Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2013.04.04 00:35:00 - [65] - Quote How about shooting those looters?
Nazowa UK Corp RAZOR Alliance 11	Posted - 2013.04.04 06:09:00 - [66] - Quote Adam Armer wrote: So, because this is a "GAME": I do missions and be happy then someone warps on me and steal my loot I shoot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing the loot He ask for 100 mill or he wardec because I shot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing "MY" LOOT he wardec and clearly states that he will not allow me to do missions or anything anymore Then when we complain about this **** we get answer "This is a GAME, and that is NORMAL GAME play" Thank you "GAME" Notes: 1- I'm not trolling 2- I'm not talking about ninja salvaging (because I had ninjas come and salvage my wrecks and go leaving my loot alone) 3- I'm not whining because this would be in a different way if I want to whine 4- I'm not trolling 5- Spare yourself and myself the time to write/read stupid comments like GTFO etc etc because it was nice knowing a "GAME" called EVE for the past 7 months Basically keeping the 30% happy on the account of ruining the "GAME" for the 70% is something normal around here /thread /GAME Yeah, regrettably and the saddest part is there is a bandwagon of "tough kids" which you see on the forums that will jump to that.
Sharon Anne School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 16	Posted - 2013.04.04 06:13:00 - [67] - Quote @OP The "Game" is a puzzle, don't cheat, you figure it out.
Super spikinator Hegemonous Conscripts Hegemonous Pandorum 126	Posted - 2013.04.04 06:29:00 - [68] - Quote Adam Armer wrote: So, because this is a "GAME": I do missions and be happy then someone warps on me and steal my loot I shoot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing the loot He ask for 100 mill or he wardec because I shot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing "MY" LOOT he wardec and clearly states that he will not allow me to do missions or anything anymore Then when we complain about this **** we get answer "This is a GAME, and that is NORMAL GAME play" Thank you "GAME" Notes: 1- I'm not trolling 2- I'm not talking about ninja salvaging (because I had ninjas come and salvage my wrecks and go leaving my loot alone) 3- I'm not whining because this would be in a different way if I want to whine 4- I'm not trolling 5- Spare yourself and myself the time to write/read stupid comments like GTFO etc etc because it was nice knowing a "GAME" called EVE for the past 7 months Basically keeping the 30% happy on the account of ruining the "GAME" for the 70% is something normal around here /thread /GAME It's not your loot until you dock with it.
Critical Issue State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.04.04 07:16:00 - [69] - Quote omg op ... just shoot him ffs
Buhhdust Princess Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships. 1603	Posted - 2013.04.04 07:51:00 - [70] - Quote It seems sir, you just lost the GAME.

Sarah Schneider PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 1960	Posted - 2013.04.04 08:17:00 - [71] - Quote It's so easy to troll people these days. "I'd rather have other players-áget shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Jenn aSide STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries 1549	Posted - 2013.04.04 12:25:00 - [72] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: Michael Turate wrote: Tough love here buddy so get ready. You have no friends, you are running L4's in a one man corp that you might flesh out with your alts. You would like the rules that govern real life to disappear here because you're in a game world and that should allow you to be whatever you want to be right? Wrong, part of the thrill of Eve is that it functions very much like the real world and real world skills are needed if you want to survive and then prosper. Real tough love here buddy so get ready... Quote: GÇ£EVE is the big boysGÇÖ playground; it resembles the real world.GÇ¥ / GÇ£EVE is alive and despite its SciFi image resembles real life quite well.GÇ¥ - This is another common GÇ£EvE elitistGÇ¥ quote on why EvE is so great. EvE doesnGÇÖt resemble real life, itGÇÖs just complicated like real life is. If griefers and flat-out murderers (you can kill a personGÇÖs pod in EvE, effectively killing their character) were given the same punishments as griefers and murderers in the real world, EvE would actually be a much better place and weed out all of the assholes like this guy. How about we ban charactersGÇÖ accounts for life for murdering another character? Or would that then be too real world for you? Simply put, EvE is great for griefers and scammers because theyGÇÖre unregulated, EXACTLY UNLIKE the real world. EvE isn't anything like the real world. A game isn't about the real world. If it was we'd actually have a real police force in EvE, a jail for those awaiting trial, and an execution house for the condemned waiting to be executed. So the scammers; drug sellers and murderers in EvE don't face real world consequences. Why? EvE is just a game. In a sane universe you'd realize yo're playing the wrong "game" (and that all "games" aren't equal) and GB2WoW. Sadly for us, the Universe itself is Insane, so you'll probably stay for years campaigning to ccp to change EVE to be more like what you're used to, with lame "raiding" and crap like that..
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 48	Posted - 2013.04.04 13:58:00 - [73] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Sadly for us, the Universe itself is Insane, so you'll probably stay for years campaigning to ccp to change EVE to be more like what you're used to, with lame "raiding" and crap like that.. I don't campaign for EvE to change so much for me, but what's best for everyone. Like I've done in other games. When I was posting on the other game forums I met so many people like you. So full of yourselves, so sure of yourselves. If not so self-entitled, demanding on issues that either are game breaking or inpractical (e.g., cost too much; takes too many resources; bad for the community). But sure enough when the devs impliments the changes/improvements that many like me have suggested, guess what happened? Not only were they popular, the features are really liked. Why? Because it's fun. Because it's different. Because it's inclusive. So do a roach dance. Scream. Belittle. You're not the first and sadly won't be the last. But it doesn't matter, as you're a gadfly in the scheme of things. In the USMC they have a saying and it goes like this: "Either be a leader; a follower; or get the hell out of the way". I'm a leader. What are you? "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188 State War Academy Caldari State 182	Posted - 2013.04.04 14:01:00 - [74] - Quote Disband your corp join NPC corp reform new one later. That'll teach em.
Jenn aSide STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries 1549	Posted - 2013.04.04 14:04:00 - [75] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: I don't campaign for EvE to change so much for me, but what's best for everyone. Like I've done in other games. Such unbelievable hubris, especially when considering the very next sentence: Quote: When I was posting on the other game forums I met so many people like you. So full of yourselves, so sure of yourselves. If not so self-entitled, demanding on issues that either are game breaking or inpractical (e.g., cost too much; takes too many resources; bad for the community). So everyone else is wrong and you're simply the IOracle of game design. If that were true, why are you MAKING games? The real truth is you think you know whats best for everyone. That doesn't make you a genius, it makes you a presumptuous insert words that will get Jenn a Side banned from EVe Online for life Quote: But sure enough when the devs impliments the changes/improvements that many like me have suggested, guess what happened? Not only were they popular, the features are really liked. Why? Because it's fun. Because it's different. Because it's inclusive. So do a roach dance. Scream. Belittle. You're not the first and sadly won't be the last. But it doesn't matter, as you're a gadfly in the scheme of things. In the USMC they have a saying and it goes like this: "Either be a leader; a follower; or get the hell out of the way". I'm a leader. What are you? Sane.
Eram Fidard Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 66	Posted - 2013.04.04 14:06:00 - [76] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: Sadly for us, the Universe itself is Insane, so you'll probably stay for years campaigning to ccp to change EVE to be more like what you're used to, with lame "raiding" and crap like that.. I don't campaign for EvE to change so much for me, but what's best for everyone. Like I've done in other games. When I was posting on the other game forums I met so many people like you. So full of yourselves, so sure of yourselves. If not so self-entitled, demanding on issues that either are game breaking or inpractical (e.g., cost too much; takes too many resources; bad for the community). But sure enough when the devs impliments the changes/improvements that many like me have suggested, guess what happened? Not only were they popular, the features are really liked. Why? Because it's fun. Because it's different. Because it's inclusive. So do a roach dance. Scream. Belittle. You're not the first and sadly won't be the last. But it doesn't matter, as you're a gadfly in the scheme of things. In the USMC they have a saying and it goes like this: "Either be a leader; a follower; or get the hell out of the way". I'm a leader. What are you? Holy crap is this guy ever delusional. You and the OP should have a jarjar binks cosplay contest.
WTFAMILOOKINGAT Horizon Research Group 26	Posted - 2013.04.04 14:07:00 - [77] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: Sadly for us, the Universe itself is Insane, so you'll probably stay for years campaigning to ccp to change EVE to be more like what you're used to, with lame "raiding" and crap like that.. I don't campaign for EvE to change so much for me, but what's best for everyone. Like I've done in other games. When I was posting on the other game forums I met so many people like you. So full of yourselves, so sure of yourselves. If not so self-entitled, demanding on issues that either are game breaking or inpractical (e.g., cost too much; takes too many resources; bad for the community). But sure enough when the devs impliments the changes/improvements that many like me have suggested, guess what happened? Not only were they popular, the features are really liked. Why? Because it's fun. Because it's different. Because it's inclusive. So do a roach dance. Scream. Belittle. You're not the first and sadly won't be the last. But it doesn't matter, as you're a gadfly in the scheme of things. In the USMC they have a saying and it goes like this: "Either be a leader; a follower; or get the hell out of the way". I'm a leader. What are you? He's really adorable, can we keep him?
Skeln Thargensen Filthy Carebear Tax Avoidance Shell Corp 74	Posted - 2013.04.04 14:14:00 - [78] - Quote calm down, it's just a videogame. I feel like a tourist in this game.
Jenn aSide STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries 1549	Posted - 2013.04.04 14:19:00 - [79] - Quote WTFAMILOOKINGAT wrote: He's really adorable, can we keep him? We have a choice?
admiral root Red Galaxy SpaceMonkey's Alliance 500	Posted - 2013.04.04 14:40:00 - [80] - Quote Eram Fidard wrote: Holy crap is this guy ever delusional. You and the OP should have a jarjar binks cosplay contest. Why you gotta be hating on Jar Jar? He asploded more stuff than the whiners in this game ever will. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Ruskarn Andedare Lion Investments 113	Posted - 2013.04.04 15:11:00 - [81] - Quote WTFAMILOOKINGAT wrote: Ace Uoweme wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: Sadly for us, the Universe itself is Insane, so you'll probably stay for years campaigning to ccp to change EVE to be more like what you're used to, with lame "raiding" and crap like that.. I don't campaign for EvE to change so much for me, but what's best for everyone. Like I've done in other games. When I was posting on the other game forums I met so many people like you. So full of yourselves, so sure of yourselves. If not so self-entitled, demanding on issues that either are game breaking or inpractical (e.g., cost too much; takes too many resources; bad for the community). But sure enough when the devs impliments the changes/improvements that many like me have suggested, guess what happened? Not only were they popular, the features are really liked. Why? Because it's fun. Because it's different. Because it's inclusive. So do a roach dance. Scream. Belittle. You're not the first and sadly won't be the last. But it doesn't matter, as you're a gadfly in the scheme of things. In the USMC they have a saying and it goes like this: "Either be a leader; a follower; or get the hell out of the way". I'm a leader. What are you? He's really adorable, can we keep him? He so cute we need to hug him every day to make him feel wanted
Debora Tsung The Investment Bankers Guild 73	Posted - 2013.04.04 15:18:00 - [82] - Quote Adam Armer wrote: So, because this is a "GAME": I do missions and be happy then someone warps on me and steal my loot I shoot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing the loot He ask for 100 mill or he wardec because I shot the wrecks to prevent him from stealing "MY" LOOT he wardec and clearly states that he will not allow me to do missions or anything anymore Then when we complain about this **** we get answer "This is a GAME, and that is NORMAL GAME play" Thank you "GAME" /GAME Wait, if You destroy the wrecks anyway, why do You care about the loot he's taking Can't You ask a corpie/friend/buttler to loot while You shoot? There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper.
LHA Tarawa Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 548	Posted - 2013.04.04 15:24:00 - [83] - Quote Your correct response is to drop to NPC corp, pay the 11% tax, and go right on missioning.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 13438	Posted - 2013.04.04 15:29:00 - [84] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: I don't campaign for EvE to change so much for me, but what's best for everyone. Like I've done in other games. No you aren't, and no you haven't. Making everything the same is not best for everyone. What's best for everyone is to provide games that suit all tastes, not to make all games suit one taste. This game suits one of those tastes, and it is not yours. Making it suit you means everyone (including you) is worse off. The solution to your problem is to find a game that fits you, not to make every game be the same bland and boring morass of non-interactivity. Quote: Because it's fun. Because it's different. Because it's inclusive. Removing what makes a game unique is not inclusive. It inherently exclude all the people who likes those unique features. If you were really about inclusiveness, you'd understand how to include yourself in the game as it stands, not attempt to exclude people from this game and from every other game where you're campaigning to be equally exclusive. Quote: In the USMC they have a saying and it goes like this: "Either be a leader; a follower; or get the hell out of the way". GÇªand by being vastly different; by not being what you want; by not trying to follow in the footsteps of other games and copy their gameplay, EVE leads. So get out of the way. By the way, if you were even remotely leader material, none of the trivial gameplay hickups you're having such massive problems with would faze you in the slightest. But you're not a leader, so they do GÇö a lot. Vote Malcanis for CSM8.
Wodensun ZeroSec 84	Posted - 2013.04.04 15:30:00 - [85] - Quote Andski wrote: I too make nonsense up http://i.imgur.com/Kfb4w0D.png LOL owned by Andski
Wodensun ZeroSec 84	Posted - 2013.04.04 15:32:00 - [86] - Quote Ifly Uwalk wrote: /me reaches for notepad, jots down, rather idly, "The Citadel S;" whistles a certain theme while doing so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydL4TrO-51A&list=PL7E3E7255B4862FDF This one is better
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 48	Posted - 2013.04.04 15:35:00 - [87] - Quote Ruskarn Andedare wrote: He so cute we need to hug him every day to make him feel wanted You are the company you keep. So no, I don't want to be "wanted" here. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Debora Tsung The Investment Bankers Guild 73	Posted - 2013.04.04 15:47:00 - [88] - Quote WTFAMILOOKINGAT wrote: He's really adorable, can we keep him? My Sister asked the same about some guinea pigs we had. They died one winter out in the cold... at the same time, liying besides each other, almost like someone poisoned and then made a display of them... very sad, almost romantic.... -.- I was charged with burrying their rotten carcasses in the nearby woods once the ground wasn't frozen anymore because nobody else dared to touch the filthy things. Best not to put that burden on Your shoulders and give them away before they get old. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper.
Velicitia Nex Exercitus 1334	Posted - 2013.04.04 15:55:00 - [89] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: Ruskarn Andedare wrote: He so cute we need to hug him every day to make him feel wanted You are the company you keep. So no, I don't want to be "wanted" here. Here's the thing ... most games 1. go kill x of y 2. bring me x of y item back 3. 1 & 2 combined 4. repeat til you're level capped. That's it, you get scripted and boring missions that you repeat ad nauseam. MAYBE you get something a little "different" from time to time (find and save my daughter) ... but even those get overused between L0 and L50 now, here's where EVE differs -- you have the unscripted ... that jackass who steals your loots, or salvages the wrecks, or just plain kills you becasue he can. Hell, we did stuff like this to each other back in the D&D days (******* rogues). You have a choice right here and now: 1. HTFU and embrace the trials and tribulations that come with having the freedom to engage anyone at any time for any reason (even if it's for no reason at all) ... maybe get in on the action, get some people together, and start deccing the pirates who're "griefing" your gameplay 2. Admit that EVE may not be your cup of tea, and move on to some other game. That's OK, it happens. One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia Malcanis for CSM8
Jenn aSide STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries 1553	Posted - 2013.04.04 16:31:00 - [90] - Quote Velicitia wrote: 1. HTFU and embrace the trials and tribulations that come with having the freedom to engage anyone at any time for any reason (even if it's for no reason at all) ... maybe get in on the action, get some people together, and start deccing the pirates who're "griefing" your gameplay 2. Admit that EVE may not be your cup of tea, and move on to some other game. That's OK, it happens. You forgot : 3. Ignore all the above, continue to play a video game you dislike, beg the developers to forget everything they've learned in a life time of making games and expect them to change a game based solely on your expertise gained from you hardcore 6 days of experience. (Yea, we know Ace isn't just 6 days old but rather an older player trolling the forums with an agenda. But lets play along, shall we? )



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