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Roark
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Posted - 2003.07.27 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Roark on 27/07/2003 18:41:20
Yesterday a pirate corp called Going Limp used an exploit to attack Taggart in empire space. Today they have used a new tactic people should be wary of. I would not call this an exploit, but certainly something that goes around the game design to make Concord an ally.
Shintai undocked in Malkalen (0.9) surrounded by bestowers. Shintai finally joined a corp we are at war with, so now we can shoot him. But all to no avail, because he was being fed energy by his cache of bestowers around him, who we were not allowed to target because they were in other corps.
Furthermore, we could not fire missiles at him because the splash damage would hit the innocent bestowers.
Is this how the game was meant to be played?
Again, we see Shintai, Femme Fatale, and Ganja going around the game design to make Concord their ally by employing the use of innocents.
Roark - Taggart Transdimensional - www.taggarttd.com |
Davin
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Posted - 2003.07.27 18:47:00 -
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That is a valid battle tactic. A tactic of cowards.
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IZON
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Posted - 2003.07.27 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: IZON on 27/07/2003 18:47:14
Awe c'mon I can see a solution to this. Think of it as a chess problem. Don't expect ccp to solve problems like this by nurfing the code.
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Halo Jones
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Posted - 2003.07.27 18:49:00 -
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yes clearly true
just slap him down with a pile of battleships, you are the largest bloody corp in teh game, quit whinging and gather a fleet and kill this hinderance, and stop filling the boards with the whining
Oberon Incorporated. |
Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.07.27 18:51:00 -
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cowards! smart cowards!
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Shintai
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Posted - 2003.07.27 18:53:00 -
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Wuuhaaaa
Roark The Master Liar strikes again.
You might have noticed the white cloud surrounding me. And there was alot of newbies and miners passing by. Many just wanted to see a battle. Nobody whatsoever feeded me with every or cap. The point that you are so clueless about what modules exist is terrible when you even fly an apoc.
Maybe if you learned to fight instead of mine you would have known.
All your sucky fighters use lasers, not that hard to defend yourself again. And missiles with all the newbies there? For gods sake, we got a Darwin Award there!
Slander is the way of TTI, nothing else.
Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |
XmorganX
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Posted - 2003.07.27 18:53:00 -
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Yeah it was pretty sad... I wouldn't call it an exploit either, but if your gonna fight someone do it like a man... Concord is supposed to help out newbs and people that don't need/want PvP. I just hope this gets fixed before more people add it to their tactics...
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.07.27 18:54:00 -
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"But all to no avail, because he was being fed energy by his cache of bestowers around him, who we were not allowed to target because they were in other corps."
How much effort does it take to jam a bestower?..
"Is this how the game was meant to be played?"
I think it's very much the result of how it was warped by constant cries to have the NPC protect the clueless ones.
One could also make a point it's not uncommon in real world for the officially uninvolved organizations to support side of conflict with resources.
The solution to these being, war would be declared on the supporters as well allowing one to shoot them freely.
... oh wait, this ickle bit of gameplay still needs to be fixed.
My bad.
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Femme Fatal
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Posted - 2003.07.27 19:00:00 -
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As much as I would like to take credit for this... I cannot remember us having any bestower friends much less any transfer cap. Sadly I arrived after TTI had fled the scene, but it apparent incompetence is trying to get justified by whining again.
I am currently trying to scrape remains of this bestower off the megathrons windshield, while talking painkillers.. I was obviously laughing too much..
TTI gang warping in with like 10+ ships after organizing it for 2 hours, just to fire missles at a battleship standing next to a station (waiting for the 2 apocs to undock which had been hidding there for a while) only to get attacked by Concord for their stupidity is certainly no reason to whine...
Unless your desperatly looking for an excuse for your incompetence... but hey look at it as valuable training 
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Ganja
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Posted - 2003.07.27 19:17:00 -
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Kinda sad.. always yelling exploit or h4x or some other excuse..
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=22229
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Valeria
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Posted - 2003.07.27 19:33:00 -
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No matter if this happened or not, things like this are unavoidable if a game relies so heavily upon stupid NPCs. It doesn't matter how many times CCP alters how CONCORD is triggered or whatever, there will always be problems like this occuring.
Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes some nublar, wrecking for 1155.0 damage. |
agrizla
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Posted - 2003.07.27 19:38:00 -
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Shintai - quite often you don't see the "white cloud" (dunno whether it's a graphics bug or what) but this thread has me quite literally rofl'ing 
Note to TTI : ermmm try mixing up your damage eh? You might see more (ie better) results that way. Oh and using any splash damage weapons in Concord areas is really really stunningly dumb
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.07.27 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 27/07/2003 20:11:48
Hmmm, Femme Fatale and Shintai's responses seem a little bit "prepared".
However, I fail to see how this is an exploit.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Crimsonjade
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Posted - 2003.07.27 20:11:00 -
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Can TTI please get over this and move on? You are acting like you are the only ones who have ever had some flaw in the game design used against them. Woe is me... adapt and move on. I have a lot of respect for your Corp and what you guys bring to the EVE community, but this is just getting ridiculous. Ive counted 3 seperate posts made by you Roark, Ragnar, whoever you decide to post on. Enough is enough. Bump the old ones, stop making new ones.
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown.
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.07.27 20:35:00 -
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Crimsonjade,
They are used against us often because we're the biggest corp. How many times have you seen others mention that.
Nevermind though this issue is being taken care of.
Everyone have a nice day.
Calladen
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.07.27 20:39:00 -
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Why didn't you just ignore concord, take a few shots to decimate the Bestowers, then take out the bad guys?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Crimsonjade
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Posted - 2003.07.27 20:53:00 -
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Calladen,
does that mean we can step off our soap box and let this go?
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.07.27 20:55:00 -
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You could've used cruisers with MWD's to ram the Bestowers out of the way too.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Crimsonjade
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Posted - 2003.07.27 20:57:00 -
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LOL josh i loved when we did that... too bad i couldnt join in the action.
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.07.27 21:01:00 -
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Crimson,
If only ramming did damage 
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Aerin Osaa
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Posted - 2003.07.27 21:05:00 -
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"Why didn't you just ignore concord, take a few shots to decimate the Bestowers, then take out the bad guys?"
i would guess its because they're not pirates, and consider themselves 'good guys'? Does honour mean nothing to the rest of you? Hmm, suppose not seening as being honourable rarely got people to the top...
But firing missiles near to onlookers was something of a bad move on TTI's part.
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j0rt
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Posted - 2003.07.27 21:05:00 -
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I fail to see how you can moan about someone attacking you its ridiculous every time this guy attack you instead of hitting back you come crying to the boards. B A T T L E S H I P is implicit of the fact you should use it as a ship for battles, so stop frickin moaning and take it on the chin...jesus
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Roark
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Posted - 2003.07.27 21:08:00 -
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We are not yelling exploit on this one.
It is certainly not the way the game was designed. If we could have declared war on the bestowers around the coward's battleship, we would have.
All we were saying is the game was not meant to be played like this, using shortcomings to make Concord your ally. Agree or disagree, your choice.
Roark - Taggart Transdimensional - www.taggarttd.com |
Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.07.27 21:09:00 -
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I personally haven't used or seen use a cap draining utility. We'll I guess I have that Nosferatu thing (red beam of sorts).
If someone is SUPPLYING cap is there a visible trail at all?
Calladen
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.07.27 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: Calladen Nimitz on 27/07/2003 21:09:46
Sorry - double post
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Roark
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Posted - 2003.07.27 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: Roark on 27/07/2003 21:22:37
deleted - double post
Roark - Taggart Transdimensional - www.taggarttd.com |
Femme Fatal
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Posted - 2003.07.27 21:47:00 -
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Cap DraŻning and Cap Neutralizing have visible animations that you can see from 20-30km if your looking for it. Afaik shield transfering and cap transfering have an even more visible graphic... I am pretty sure that those bestowers or other ships did not in any way send cap or shields over to the battleships.. infact the powergrid of a proper transfer device is a bit steep for a bestower since anything less than a medium transferer would have been a moot point anyway.
Sad to see TTI sinking to lies now, but ohwell we will se what lame tactic we can employ tomorrow. See ya in the next whine thread guys
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.07.27 21:50:00 -
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Aerin,
If the Bestowers just happened to be there and Shintai somehow got between them, then fair enough.
On the other hand, I'd be tempted to think otherwise.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Crimsonjade
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Posted - 2003.07.27 21:51:00 -
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The game has issues... who knew?
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2003.07.27 22:11:00 -
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So you couldn't kill him... you want a tissue?
Pathethic, 200+ man corp can't kill 1 guy. And why post it in forums, btw? This is 3rd or so post about TTI problems with 2 people. What did you expect them to do? Show up in an empty roid field for a 2 vs 200 battle?
Kudos to him then.
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