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Cartaris
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2013.04.05 04:13:00 -
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I just realized this, and found it to be AMAZING. We miners can now jetcan mine in peace (mostly)
If someone flips your can, just scoop it up.
Apparently if the person has a suspect timer, their cans can be looted freely (you won't get s suspect timer) 
Not that it mattered much anyway, with the buff to the retriever's ore holding abilities, but I still found this to be cool  |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
2345
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Posted - 2013.04.05 04:16:00 -
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Stealth Eve is dying thread. |
Cartaris
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2013.04.05 04:41:00 -
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Seriously, you don't even have to turn your safety off. Imo, its about time they make a mechanic work in favor of the guy who doesn't want to pvp |
baltec1
Bat Country
5806
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Posted - 2013.04.05 04:44:00 -
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I just steal the can and have fun for 15 min in my hauler. There are a suprising amount of battle skiffs kicking around. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
7358
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Posted - 2013.04.05 05:24:00 -
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canflipping is for pansies
loot the can, jettison it, pop the can
~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.
Malcanis for CSM 8 |
pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
1077
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Posted - 2013.04.05 05:29:00 -
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Cartaris wrote:I just realized this, and found it to be AMAZING. We miners can now jetcan mine in peace (mostly) If someone flips your can, just scoop it up. Apparently if the person has a suspect timer, their cans can be looted freely (you won't get s suspect timer) Not that it mattered much anyway, with the buff to the retriever's ore holding abilities, but I still found this to be cool
basicly doe 2 reasons
first alot of moners got smarter
second those so called Elite PVPERS are scared to death of being shot by somebosdy who is actually better than them
well you know..... can you imagine their shame and embarrasment if they have to tell their corpmates that they lost a ship in real pvp
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
7359
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Posted - 2013.04.05 05:54:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:first alot of moners got smarter
not really, they were just given gigantic ore holds and gigantic tanks so they could AFK mine to their hearts' content without needing to think
~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~
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Malcanis for CSM 8 |
Calathorn Virpio
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.05 06:00:00 -
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Andski wrote:pussnheels wrote:first alot of moners got smarter not really, they were just given gigantic ore holds and gigantic tanks so they could AFK mine to their hearts' content without needing to think
what, you suggesting miners actually be in-game whilst looking at a bunch of rocks?!?!
madness
CCP are the French
gate camping=/=PVP
everything else is fair game |
minerdave
Barr Construction Industries
18
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Posted - 2013.04.05 06:08:00 -
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Now why the hell would I want to can mine when a mack can effectively hold more than a full jetcan of ore |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2013.04.05 06:10:00 -
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Andski wrote:pussnheels wrote:first alot of moners got smarter not really, they were just given gigantic ore holds and gigantic tanks so they could AFK mine to their hearts' content without needing to think
Oh do stop whinging Andski.
CCP decided that ganking miners, effectively for free, was not something they wanted to allow.
In null-sec speak, HTFU and deal with it you wretch.
This is not a signature. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
7359
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Posted - 2013.04.05 06:20:00 -
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not whining, just saying that miners never got "smarter" since everything was changed so they wouldn't have to play smarter
miners have to be accommodated in such ways, we've come to accept that
~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1225
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Posted - 2013.04.05 06:33:00 -
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It's not like you could just enter warp with your hauler and flip the can back into your cargo just as you entered warp before, making can flipping merely a nuisance.
Nothing of value was lost.
Now you just have to switch your T1 frigate with a Catalyst and do barge flipping instead. At least that has consequences and is more than just a minor annoyance.
Mining Overhaul
Nothing changed since 2008. |
Lugia3
Pirates Incorporated
367
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Posted - 2013.04.05 06:34:00 -
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I tip the cans and then feed them into a can made by my alt.
Steal that... really, do it. My Talos won't hurt you.
Yarr |
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
Hegemonous Pandorum
126
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Posted - 2013.04.05 06:40:00 -
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flip can, destroy can. |
Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics
K162
1567
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Posted - 2013.04.05 06:47:00 -
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Cartaris wrote:Seriously, you don't even have to turn your safety off. Imo, its about time they make a mechanic work in favor of the guy who doesn't want to pvp
no, it isnt.
go train some gunnery skills. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
7604
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Posted - 2013.04.05 06:49:00 -
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They will now start stealing your ore instead!!
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Umega
Solis Mensa
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Posted - 2013.04.05 07:00:00 -
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Super spikinator wrote:flip can, destroy can.
Stealing ore is overrated, C.. it's this quote. Unless it is velds you mined yourself with the veldnaught.. even I'd pay a premium for that velds, knowing where it came from. That's worth stealing.. but only your ore, Chribba.
Ass kissing aside.. loot and blow up. Then fly around and kill the 'White Knight Saviors' of the area that don't know what they doing in their point-less 'pvp' vessels. Get two tears for the price of one. The new system is actually better. And say the white knights are good.. it may be the catalyst (pun intended  ) to push them towards more PvP arts and areas of the game when they taste killing a suspect.
New system is win win for both sides of the spectrum.
-áUme-Pro Studios |
bufnitza calatoare
Nex Angelus.
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.04.05 09:43:00 -
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Cartaris wrote:I just realized this, and found it to be AMAZING. We miners can now jetcan mine in peace (mostly) If someone flips your can, just scoop it up. Apparently if the person has a suspect timer, their cans can be looted freely (you won't get s suspect timer) Not that it mattered much anyway, with the buff to the retriever's ore holding abilities, but I still found this to be cool
ok I send in an alt in a noob ship to flip your can...
you pop him along with all your friends.
as you rescoop your ****... I declaok and **** you with my recon/stealth bomber. |
Cartaris
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.05 10:39:00 -
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bufnitza calatoare wrote:Cartaris wrote:I just realized this, and found it to be AMAZING. We miners can now jetcan mine in peace (mostly) If someone flips your can, just scoop it up. Apparently if the person has a suspect timer, their cans can be looted freely (you won't get s suspect timer) Not that it mattered much anyway, with the buff to the retriever's ore holding abilities, but I still found this to be cool ok I send in an alt in a noob ship to flip your can... you pop him along with all your friends. as you rescoop your ****... I declaok and **** you with my recon/stealth bomber.
Try: I decloak and shoot, then get concorded because you didn't actually have suspect timer (because you took from a guy with a suspect timer, which has no consequences :P) |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2013.04.05 10:42:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:first alot of miners got smarter
Heh. Hahahaha. Oh, good one.
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. RIP Vile Rat |
Velicitia
Nex Exercitus
1335
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Posted - 2013.04.05 10:58:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:pussnheels wrote:first alot of miners got smarter Heh. Hahahaha. Oh, good one.
well, instead of pimp-fit (albeit untanked) hulks, you now have OK-fit (still untanked) Retrievers flying around.
I suppose that qualifies for some definition of "smarter".
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Runeme Shilter
New Order Logistics
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Posted - 2013.04.05 11:00:00 -
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bufnitza calatoare wrote:
ok I send in an alt in a noob ship to flip your can...
you pop him along with all your friends.
as you rescoop your ****... I declaok and **** you with my recon/stealth bomber.
Apparently you have no clue how this game works.
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Runeme Shilter
New Order Logistics
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Posted - 2013.04.05 11:03:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:Lord Zim wrote:pussnheels wrote:first alot of miners got smarter Heh. Hahahaha. Oh, good one. well, instead of pimp-fit (albeit untanked) hulks, you now have OK-fit (still untanked) Retrievers flying around. I suppose that qualifies for some definition of "smarter".
Well, just this morning a hulk with only a B-Type Small shield booster for a tank was killed in Jarzalad. The pimp fits are still out there.
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bufnitza calatoare
Nex Angelus.
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.04.05 11:22:00 -
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Runeme Shilter wrote:bufnitza calatoare wrote:
ok I send in an alt in a noob ship to flip your can...
you pop him along with all your friends.
as you rescoop your ****... I declaok and **** you with my recon/stealth bomber.
Apparently you have no clue how this game works.
nope only started 3 weeks ago after buying 6 accounts on ebay, have I got can mechanics mixed up? |
Runeme Shilter
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Posted - 2013.04.05 11:27:00 -
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bufnitza calatoare wrote:
nope only started 3 weeks ago after buying 6 accounts on ebay, have I got can mechanics mixed up?
Yes, you have. It would have been enough for you to read the OP to know that looting from a suspects can doesn't give you any flags, but even that is apparently too much effort. Please go back to WoW. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3879
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Posted - 2013.04.05 15:52:00 -
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Runeme Shilter wrote:bufnitza calatoare wrote:
nope only started 3 weeks ago after buying 6 accounts on ebay, have I got can mechanics mixed up?
Yes, you have. It would have been enough for you to read the OP to know that looting from a suspects can doesn't give you any flags, but even that is apparently too much effort. Please go back to WoW.
Except, of course, that with one extra step in the process it works flawlessly. 
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Runeme Shilter
New Order Logistics
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Posted - 2013.04.05 16:05:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Runeme Shilter wrote:bufnitza calatoare wrote:
nope only started 3 weeks ago after buying 6 accounts on ebay, have I got can mechanics mixed up?
Yes, you have. It would have been enough for you to read the OP to know that looting from a suspects can doesn't give you any flags, but even that is apparently too much effort. Please go back to WoW. Except, of course, that with one extra step in the process it works flawlessly.
True, but you need 2 characters for it. But due to the safety feature, not many fall for it anymore. More fun is to steal the ore/ice with an Orca, we scooped up couple hundred of Ice from a retriever+jetcan+orca+freighter operation with only a shuttle going suspect. The miners were not amused ;-) |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1110
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Posted - 2013.04.05 16:08:00 -
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Runeme Shilter wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Runeme Shilter wrote:bufnitza calatoare wrote:
nope only started 3 weeks ago after buying 6 accounts on ebay, have I got can mechanics mixed up?
Yes, you have. It would have been enough for you to read the OP to know that looting from a suspects can doesn't give you any flags, but even that is apparently too much effort. Please go back to WoW. Except, of course, that with one extra step in the process it works flawlessly. True, but you need 2 characters for it. But due to the safety feature, not many fall for it anymore. More fun is to steal the ore/ice with an Orca, we scooped up couple hundred of Ice from a retriever+jetcan+orca+freighter operation with only a shuttle going suspect. The miners were not amused ;-)
As boring and as self-promoting as I find James aged 13.5, this is a better response than just whinging about how mean CCP are for stopping effectively free ganks on mining ships.
This is not a signature. |
Runeme Shilter
New Order Logistics
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Posted - 2013.04.05 16:17:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:As boring and as self-promoting as I find James aged 13.5, this is a better response than just whinging about how mean CCP are for stopping effectively free ganks on mining ships.
In 0.5 and 0.6 untanked Hulk/Mack/Covetors are still profitable to gank, as are full tech2 fit retrievers. The difference now is that you have to be really dense to not tank your mining ship. |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2013.04.05 17:38:00 -
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And how many miners are "really dense"? More than 50%?
Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. RIP Vile Rat |
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