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Gypsy Djinn
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Posted - 2005.09.10 21:33:00 -
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VIRII hereby announces a partnership with Stain Alliance with the combined goal of returning the Stain Region to the rightful emperor, Trigger.
At this time VIRII will set all members of Stain Alliance to positive standings and will be actively hunting all enemies of Stain Alliance in and out of Stain space.
Positive standings are granted only to official members of the in game alliance, Stain Alliance and VIRII do not share a common standings list and as always all neutrals will be shot by VIRII pilots in 0.0 space at all times. Those corporations in the area that wish to not be fired on by VIRII pilots must 1st contact Stain Alliance for proper permission to be in their space who will then coordinate standings with us. Bios will not be recognised in this conflict, only official validation from Stain Alliance of friendly standings will be considered in VIRII's standings.
VIRII at this time will have no active roll in politics of the region, as we only acknowledge the rightful claim of Stain Alliance to its space.
All VIRII positive standings remain in effect and we ask that corporations set to positive standings with VIRII first contact us or Stain Alliance leadership before entering Stain space as our agreement does not include anyone except the named parties. As stated above Stain Alliance and VIRII do NOT share a common standings list as such we don't wish any of our friends to be fired on by Stain Alliance pilots. VIRII will not be held responsible for loses of corporations who do not have the proper permissions from Stain Alliance to be in their space. This agreement precludes us from defending anyone regardless of standings against Stain Alliance within their space.
As of this announcement this agreement only covers official members of The Stain Alliance, all other corporations not currently set to positive standings with VIRII are considered hostile and will be shot on sight.
V I R I I HeadQuarters
http://virii.homeip.net
V I R I I - We Are Here For Your Daughters
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.09.10 21:34:00 -
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Wow, I did not see this coming.
Ayeilla > Yes, Lineage 2
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.09.10 21:40:00 -
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Yay for Saladin and all of VIRII
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Akira Yamata
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Posted - 2005.09.10 21:43:00 -
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this is why I love playing eve, when everything kicks off, its like a episode of the A team  |
Voltron
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Posted - 2005.09.10 21:43:00 -
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ok josh........how the hell do i get my forum sig to change to another one every time someone refreshes the page? thats a pretty cool trick, i'll give ya that.
Volt
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Nuclear Option
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Posted - 2005.09.10 21:46:00 -
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Oh look saladin nad his blood enemy trigger.
hypocricy 4tw
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Strikeman
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Posted - 2005.09.10 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: Strikeman on 10/09/2005 21:54:46
This is becoming more and more like a soap opera; everybody sleeps with everybody
Voltron: see Josh's sticky about that here
edit: spelling 
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EB Xile
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Posted - 2005.09.10 21:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Strikeman
Edited by: Strikeman on 10/09/2005 21:54:46
This is becoming more and more like a soap opera; everybody sleeps with everybody
edit: spelling
But Im still a virgin
/me strokes his armageddon
oh yeah SA + VIRII 4tw!
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Voltron
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Posted - 2005.09.10 22:02:00 -
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cooool thx strikeman and josh
Volt
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SPUFFofDoG
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Posted - 2005.09.10 22:06:00 -
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no problem really, your already at -10 along with every Satin Allaince member.
(typo intended unlike some did)
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.09.10 22:43:00 -
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Edited by: Nick Curso on 10/09/2005 22:44:03
\o/ good to have u with us once again boys :D its an honour.
BTW Will i know u kept my posters up.
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Destroyer Draxx
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Posted - 2005.09.10 22:51:00 -
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Virii 4tw ;)
So Far So Good....So What |
heyjoe52
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Posted - 2005.09.10 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Voltron
ok josh........how the hell do i get my forum sig to change to another one every time someone refreshes the page? thats a pretty cool trick, i'll give ya that.
Volt
HE'S A WITCH!.... may we burn her?
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TI0 101
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Posted - 2005.09.10 23:40:00 -
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Baaaaaaaaa!!!
Bringer of Justice....
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pshepherd
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Posted - 2005.09.10 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: heyjoe52
Originally by: Voltron
ok josh........how the hell do i get my forum sig to change to another one every time someone refreshes the page? thats a pretty cool trick, i'll give ya that.
Volt
HE'S A WITCH!.... may we burn her?
does he weigh as much as a duck?
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Band Zior
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Posted - 2005.09.10 23:49:00 -
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Edited by: Band Zior on 10/09/2005 23:49:33
Didn't you attact SE "because they were allied with the [5]"?
You said you did.
So if SE is now hostile to [5] and SA are aligned with the [5], you will nap SA. Of course, it makes sense.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.09.11 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Band Zior
Edited by: Band Zior on 10/09/2005 23:49:33
Didn't you attact SE "because they were allied with the [5]"?
You said you did.
So if SE is now hostile to [5] and SA are aligned with the [5], you will nap SA. Of course, it makes sense.
Sometimes things are just too complex for alts 
Personnaly I see SA as an independant entity in Eve, a faction that won't let others tell it what to do.
SE was just part of the [5] bandwagon, trying to survive at all cost. The south needs strong and independant entities with their own political agenda.
Enough of this North vs South war madness, war is much better when you don't have to travel 100 jumps to fight.
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Valdi
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Posted - 2005.09.11 04:32:00 -
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didn't see that coming
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We just came to crush...
Director of Recruitment
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Band Zior
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Posted - 2005.09.11 04:40:00 -
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yes olyy ofc.
Makes a lot of sense now.
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Emilia White
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Posted - 2005.09.11 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Originally by: Band Zior
Edited by: Band Zior on 10/09/2005 23:49:33
Didn't you attact SE "because they were allied with the [5]"?
You said you did.
So if SE is now hostile to [5] and SA are aligned with the [5], you will nap SA. Of course, it makes sense.
Sometimes things are just too complex for alts
Personnaly I see SA as an independant entity in Eve, a faction that won't let others tell it what to do.
SE was just part of the [5] bandwagon, trying to survive at all cost. The south needs strong and independant entities with their own political agenda.
Enough of this North vs South war madness, war is much better when you don't have to travel 100 jumps to fight.
so teaming up with the 5 to get thier way is being independent?
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Leyla Anshley
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Posted - 2005.09.11 06:50:00 -
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cheers for V I R I I you guys allways have my respect.
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Kozak
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Posted - 2005.09.11 07:43:00 -
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Meh, nothing new. Saw VIRII and MASS guys on the first day of the invasion not shooting each other in DSS.
I hope this is just another step in "This is good for Stain" rhetoric. Yet everything SA has done to date has NOT been good for stain 
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Mattrim Cauthon
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Posted - 2005.09.11 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsy Djinn
VIRII at this time will have no active roll in politics of the region, as we only acknowledge the rightful claim of Stain Alliance to its space.
Best line ever!
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Wrok
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Posted - 2005.09.11 08:03:00 -
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...intres...WTF!?
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Blacksilk
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Posted - 2005.09.11 08:11:00 -
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Interesting days ahead
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.09.11 08:47:00 -
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Hmm bandwagoneering 
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Weeman
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Posted - 2005.09.11 09:14:00 -
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So the statement you shoot all allies of 5 was just a lie? Perhaps this was planned months ago to try and destabalise the Stain region but killing the odd miner here and there, hmm i wonder...
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TIvian
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Posted - 2005.09.11 09:53:00 -
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Edited by: TIvian on 11/09/2005 09:53:56
VIRII are a great bunch of guys. and I have nothing but respect for these guys. When I was in Black Omega Sec. and we fought them in G-W. They always fought even when out numbered, they never logged. and they fought well.
I always said any alliance the VIRII chose to fly with should consider them selves lucky!!!
Stain Empire...things just got a whole lot worse for you!!!
congratz to SA. you guys are now a force to be wreckoned with.
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TIvian
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Posted - 2005.09.11 10:05:00 -
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PS all comments or concerns should be sent or conv'd directly to Saladin. as he loves getting mail and convo's
Chat Channel: The Hushz
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dirtydave
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Posted - 2005.09.11 10:15:00 -
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im still wondering why mass an mass slave corps are flying along side virii when they have openly described the as "scum". Wasnt it these same slave corps that went whining to trigger that SE had let pirates roam SE space at will? and here they are now doing the exact same thing yet another two faced responce from these backstabbers.
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Svabbi k
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Posted - 2005.09.11 10:20:00 -
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WTF?
 All things said above is my opinion, not the opinion of shinra.
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Kuang
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Posted - 2005.09.11 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: dirtydave
im still wondering why mass an mass slave corps are flying along side virii when they have openly described the as "scum". Wasnt it these same slave corps that went whining to trigger that SE had let pirates roam SE space at will? and here they are now doing the exact same thing yet another two faced responce from these backstabbers.
Grin .. he said pirates
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TIvian
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Posted - 2005.09.11 11:09:00 -
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Edited by: TIvian on 11/09/2005 11:10:10
Originally by: dirtydave
im still wondering why mass an mass slave corps are flying along side virii when they have openly described the as "scum". Wasnt it these same slave corps that went whining to trigger that SE had let pirates roam SE space at will? and here they are now doing the exact same thing yet another two faced responce from these backstabbers.
WTF did you just say? is it just me that doesn't understand what he is saying? does anyone else know what he is on about?
PIRATES!!! WHERE???? Yarrr
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.09.11 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Svabbi k
WTF?
10/10
Good luck VIRII
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Boktor
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Posted - 2005.09.11 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: TIvian
Edited by: TIvian on 11/09/2005 11:10:10
Originally by: dirtydave
im still wondering why mass an mass slave corps are flying along side virii when they have openly described the as "scum". Wasnt it these same slave corps that went whining to trigger that SE had let pirates roam SE space at will? and here they are now doing the exact same thing yet another two faced responce from these backstabbers.
WTF did you just say? is it just me that doesn't understand what he is saying?
PIRATES!!! WHERE???? Yarrr
Actually yes 
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Kipkruide
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Posted - 2005.09.11 11:24:00 -
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crap so no shooting virii anymore :)
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Horsefly
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Posted - 2005.09.11 12:24:00 -
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Good Luck VIRII. May your ammo strike true. or something like that. BTW see you around
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Trakh Shardan
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Posted - 2005.09.11 12:39:00 -
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HAIL TRIGGER AND HAIL ME SELF
and ofc ood luck VIRII
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forumposting alt
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Posted - 2005.09.11 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Trakh Shardan
HAIL TRIGGER AND HAIL ME SELF
and ofc ood luck VIRII
I see the TRIGGER CAPS LOCK DISEASE has struck again, please visit you rnearest medical or cloning facility for treatment
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.09.11 13:59:00 -
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well seeing as in your orignal annoucment for coming down here you said you where fighting [5] and their allies, then I dont quite understand this.
Stain Empire are now hositle AFAIK to the [5] and SA are friends, basicly this makes you no good liers, like Trigger and his lap dogs, so any respect SE and myself had for VIRII has gone.
Remeber this people, VIRII are another corp that has to lie to people to do whatever it is they wanner do.
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.09.11 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: shivan on 11/09/2005 14:11:10
and i quote
Originally by: Gypsy Djinn
VIRII hereby publically announces mission "Seek and Destroy". We have begun actively hunting down, in their home space, ALL corporations and alliances who are public allies of the [5]. We will be moving in force into the respective "claimed" space of said allies and by luck of the draw the first area of operation is Stain Empire "controlled" space. SE has been given prior warning of our intent and this notice is to any other corporations or Alliances who maybe working in the area, as due to the flawed standings system in EVE VIRII work on a positive/hostile (there are no nuetrals) system, which is to say that we shoot all non-positive standing pilots wherever we encounter them. Please note that being active enemies of the [5] does not automatically preclude you from being fired on upon by VIRII pilots, although we certainly we be receptive to requests for non aggressive agreements with any group that actively fires on [5]. If your organization does not yet have a NAP with VIRII and would like to seek one please eve mail Lord Cyric, Gypsy Djinn or Jake Sisko in-game, post your request in our public Diplomacy forum or contact any VIRII member in game who will forward on your request (any group that has any mention of friendship of [5] corporations or publically admits same need not bother). Those groups who wish to avoid our presence in their space are directed to remove all mention of friendship to [5] corporations in bio's be it alliance, corporate or personal and contact us to inform us of same.
Please let the inevitable flames from [5] members, allies and alts commence but if you are a SE pilot might I suggest that you 1st check with your alliance mates as to the results of our 1st evening of limited incursions into your space before posting as not to look foolish when corrected, perhaps a better use of time would be to contact your new "allies" and ask for help, I am sure they will have no problem traveling up to help, being the trustworthy and honorable friends that they are.
V I R I I HeadQuarters
http://virii.homeip.net
V I R I I - We Are Here For Your Daughters
Orignal Post
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Heinky
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Posted - 2005.09.11 14:26:00 -
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Looking at the old statement from virii and the new one, it looks like virii are jumping sides because they are afraid or for some other reason. I dont really care why they are backing up SA , if they can back out of their own state of mind so quik ( wich was beating on 5 and their allies) i would not trust them at all.
ps: there must be some angry virii members out there that are actually men of their words.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.09.11 15:59:00 -
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Decision to support SA against SE was taken before the [5] gave support to SA.
We still shoot [5]. No hypocrisy from our part, it's just bull****ty politics from [5] & bandwagon that are messing up the whole thing.
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.09.11 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Decision to support SA against SE was taken before the [5] gave support to SA.
We still shoot [5]. No hypocrisy from our part, it's just bull****ty politics from [5] & bandwagon that are messing up the whole thing.
That is 100% grade A BS and you know it, your intentions where to kill the [5] and ALL there allies, well SA are now alligned with [5] and we are fighting [5].
So your still digging yourself a deeper hole, would you like me to get you a bigger shovel?
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0Virtu0
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Posted - 2005.09.11 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: shivan
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Decision to support SA against SE was taken before the [5] gave support to SA.
We still shoot [5]. No hypocrisy from our part, it's just bull****ty politics from [5] & bandwagon that are messing up the whole thing.
That is 100% grade A BS and you know it, your intentions where to kill the [5] and ALL there allies, well SA are now alligned with [5] and we are fighting [5].
So your still digging yourself a deeper hole, would you like me to get you a bigger shovel?
So...you're angry at us because we refuse to support Stain Empire or something?
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WizEye
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Posted - 2005.09.11 16:42:00 -
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*MASSive hug to virii*
great guys, great skills!
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William Dampier
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Posted - 2005.09.11 16:56:00 -
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Lets cut all the nonsense political BS out... we aren't role players we could really couldn;t careless about who has what regions or whatever, we are still hostile to the 5 as they are to us. This agreement was made before the 5 announced support of SA's claim to the space and that almost caused this partnership not to happen, but it did because we had already made a commitment to some of our friends to help and really it's beyond their control to dictate to the 5 who they support and who they don't.
But all that aside the simple truth is from our point of view EvE sucks without war and its very possible to have war within 10 jumps as compared to this north vs south thing where everyone has to travel 100 jumps to fight. Our overall goal and what we feel is necessary to achieve it is our business but safe be it to say that having SA in charge of Stain Space, in our estimation, benefits us toward that end, it's as simple as that. Now that it seems that SE has been broken (without a fight unfortunately) I am sure we will be deciding as a group who will next be infected.
The fact of the matter is that 30 guys are not going to ever take down any of the alliances in the south and allies are made on the battlefield, we choose a group with pilots we think have the courage and skill (and have proven as much in the past) to be worthy of our friendship and our help. The actions of some groups during this civil unrest has made it very possibly that we will be very happy with the amounts of fights and the ease at which we will find them.
We had an agenda and list of groups we were going to engage when we came to stain a month or so ago, that list hasn;t changed and the next group on the list is still there and still hostile.
When we came to Stain all we heard was how we were just pirates in Stain space and we would be crushed and this and that... well we aren't the ones having to move back to empire and run our alliance from NPC stations in Agil. And although I find it funny that a group that called us pirates for coming down to stain and running guerrilla warfare have now just publicly officially announced they will be doing the same thing.
End of the day in EvE everyone changes focus from time to time, but we have never turned on a friend mid-fight, we have never led a group to believe they had our backing and left them stranded when the going got tough and we never will. We just want fights, fights we don't have to travel 100 jumps to get and with and against people that we respect Stain Empire didn;t fall in this category, so it was more important to us to remove them and temporarily switch our focus to that end. With whats being planned the next few weeks (and hopefully longer) will be very fun.
V I R I I HeadQuarters
http://virii.homeip.net
V I R I I - We Are Here For Your Daughters
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Ketarn Faskee
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Posted - 2005.09.12 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: SPUFFofDoG
no problem really, your already at -10 along with every Satin Allaince member.
(typo intended unlike some did)
Well then, I certainly hope the Satin Alliance watches out, as soft and sensual as they are. Honestly, I don't know why peole hold grudges against certain types of fabric. ( sorry, couldn't resist)
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.09.12 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Decision to support SA against SE was taken before the [5] gave support to SA.
We still shoot [5]. No hypocrisy from our part, it's just *snip* politics from [5] & bandwagon that are messing up the whole thing.
I'm pretty sure most of SA have been on positive standings since [5] was formed..
the more likely explaination is.. after your little piwating session.. you have decided you want to live in Stain's area, and jumping on whichever bandwagon you think will let you..
i'm just waiting for ur standard "we control the entire region, except the 1 or 2 hours a day when they blob us" announcement, they where funneh
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.09.12 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: shivan
Edited by: shivan on 11/09/2005 14:11:10
and i quote
Originally by: Gypsy Djinn
VIRII hereby publically announces mission "Seek and Destroy". We have begun actively hunting down, in their home space, ALL corporations and alliances who are public allies of the [5]. We will be moving in force into the respective "claimed" space of said allies and by luck of the draw the first area of operation is Stain Empire "controlled" space. SE has been given prior warning of our intent and this notice is to any other corporations or Alliances who maybe working in the area, as due to the flawed standings system in EVE VIRII work on a positive/hostile (there are no nuetrals) system, which is to say that we shoot all non-positive standing pilots wherever we encounter them. Please note that being active enemies of the [5] does not automatically preclude you from being fired on upon by VIRII pilots, although we certainly we be receptive to requests for non aggressive agreements with any group that actively fires on [5]. If your organization does not yet have a NAP with VIRII and would like to seek one please eve mail Lord Cyric, Gypsy Djinn or Jake Sisko in-game, post your request in our public Diplomacy forum or contact any VIRII member in game who will forward on your request (any group that has any mention of friendship of [5] corporations or publically admits same need not bother). Those groups who wish to avoid our presence in their space are directed to remove all mention of friendship to [5] corporations in bio's be it alliance, corporate or personal and contact us to inform us of same.
Please let the inevitable flames from [5] members, allies and alts commence but if you are a SE pilot might I suggest that you 1st check with your alliance mates as to the results of our 1st evening of limited incursions into your space before posting as not to look foolish when corrected, perhaps a better use of time would be to contact your new "allies" and ask for help, I am sure they will have no problem traveling up to help, being the trustworthy and honorable friends that they are.
V I R I I HeadQuarters
http://virii.homeip.net
V I R I I - We Are Here For Your Daughters
Orignal Post
LOL - pwned.
Quoted for truth.
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.09.12 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Decision to support SA against SE was taken before the [5] gave support to SA.
We still shoot [5]. No hypocrisy from our part, it's just *snip* politics from [5] & bandwagon that are messing up the whole thing.
Flame removed.Laurelin
Whatever excuse that let's you sleep better at night.
Fact of the matter is that you saw the chance for easy kills and took it regardless of your previous statements or intentions. If you were a corp that was true to your word you'd have helped SE against SA/5 but wait, that would mean no easy kills and people who can fight you back.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.09.12 08:49:00 -
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Bandwagons 4tw.
Ayeilla > Yes, Lineage 2
has the most unhelpful
Gm's and tech support
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.09.12 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Decision to support SA against SE was taken before the [5] gave support to SA.
We still shoot [5]. No hypocrisy from our part, it's just *snip* politics from [5] & bandwagon that are messing up the whole thing.
Flame removed.Laurelin
Whatever excuse that let's you sleep better at night.
Fact of the matter is that you saw the chance for easy kills and took it regardless of your previous statements or intentions. If you were a corp that was true to your word you'd have helped SE against SA/5 but wait, that would mean no easy kills and people who can fight you back.
My guess goes that thy will fight SA after SE
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Loka
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Posted - 2005.09.12 11:31:00 -
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I never was a fan of politics, even when i was involved in too many :P
My opinion, let anybody else their opinion. Talking about some things isnt possible. Sometimes peace, respect and souveranity is gained by force, not by beeing good friends, as pathetic it sounds.
I say let VIRII do their own stuff as they wish. Let all others follow their own agenda and be honest to your own goals and agenda.
Nothing makes me more sad as beeing backstabbed. My PC is repaired and iam looking forward for some fun. Iam not paying 15Ç a month to have a better chat programm, with visual effects.
 cya in space
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.09.12 15:19:00 -
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Its amazing how the bandwagon references come from people far removed from the region in question.
VIRII lived in stain for 2 months so far without problems. We fought, we npc'd, we did agent missions. There were only 2 days out of those 2 months where SE camped us in contunously with ridiculous numbers. On the second day we undocked, still outnumbered, and forced them to flee. VIRII went to great pains to find fights in Stain, in many instances engaging superior numbers (2:3 odds against us was not unsual) and jumped in on camps on several occassions. We are called station huggers but the fact remains that we never played the undock/dock game the way our enemies did. When hostiles were hard to come by, sure we put up a few bubbles to see what fish we would catch. In fact what impressed me most with VIRII was the degree of specialization of its members and the way everyone was willing to think outside the box and take calculated risks. This was never a quality I have found in any of my enemies, who only know one trick: Outnumber them and then get them to aggro. The One-trick ponies know who they are.
Drilla and others can re-post old posts until they are blue in the face. Policy change is something everyone goes through, and for us we felt that finishing off SE remnants and getting the current objective done was more important than going back to a policy statement months ago and see what to do next. We never anticipated that so many SE corps would join SA. Our corporation will always do what its members feel is best at the current time, and we will not be held hostage by PR statements and policy delcarations that were issued for a different set of circumstances. If you want to find a policy to lock us in to, then I will say that what VIRII wants from EVE is the same as what everyone else wants: Fun.
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Posted - 2005.09.12 15:31:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Saladin
Its amazing how the bandwagon references come from people far removed from the region in question.
VIRII lived in stain for 2 months so far without problems. We fought, we npc'd, we did agent missions. There were only 2 days out of those 2 months where SE camped us in contunously with ridiculous numbers. On the second day we undocked, still outnumbered, and forced them to flee. VIRII went to great pains to find fights in Stain, in many instances engaging superior numbers (2:3 odds against us was not unsual) and jumped in on camps on several occassions. We are called station huggers but the fact remains that we never played the undock/dock game the way our enemies did. When hostiles were hard to come by, sure we put up a few bubbles to see what fish we would catch. In fact what impressed me most with VIRII was the degree of specialization of its members and the way everyone was willing to think outside the box and take calculated risks. This was never a quality I have found in any of my enemies, who only know one trick: Outnumber them and then get them to aggro. The One-trick ponies know who they are.
Drilla and others can re-post old posts until they are blue in the face. Policy change is something everyone goes through, and for us we felt that finishing off SE remnants and getting the current objective done was more important than going back to a policy statement months ago and see what to do next. We never anticipated that so many SE corps would join SA. Our corporation will always do what its members feel is best at the current time, and we will not be held hostage by PR statements and policy delcarations that were issued for a different set of circumstances. If you want to find a policy to lock us in to, then I will say that what VIRII wants from EVE is the same as what everyone else wants: Fun.
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Posted - 2005.09.12 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Bandwagons 4tw.
Bandwagons? We were killing SE before it became cool. We are not aligned with [5] in any form, if we see them, we shoot them. Now, the politics that led to our alignment with SA is entirely different. As our objective was: Destroy Stain Empire. Now, we are stuck in an odd situation. We were Allied with SA before [5]'s declaration of support who up to that time had been backing SE.
Now, here comes the tricky part for the rest of you folks. We decided to KEEP our alignment and finish off SE, because we are men of our word. Because [5] is a bunch of nap-a-holics doesnt mean we should change our stance toward SA. Our policy is proactive and reactive, not stagnent.
oh, btw there is no bandwagon...
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Posted - 2005.09.12 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Saladin
Drilla and others can re-post old posts until they are blue in the face.
Well I didn't - I quoted someone in this thread.
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Netto
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Posted - 2005.09.12 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Saladin
Its amazing how the bandwagon references come from people far removed from the region in question.
VIRII lived in stain for 2 months so far without problems. We fought, we npc'd, we did agent missions. There were only 2 days out of those 2 months where SE camped us in contunously with ridiculous numbers. On the second day we undocked, still outnumbered, and forced them to flee. VIRII went to great pains to find fights in Stain, in many instances engaging superior numbers (2:3 odds against us was not unsual) and jumped in on camps on several occassions. We are called station huggers but the fact remains that we never played the undock/dock game the way our enemies did. When hostiles were hard to come by, sure we put up a few bubbles to see what fish we would catch. In fact what impressed me most with VIRII was the degree of specialization of its members and the way everyone was willing to think outside the box and take calculated risks. This was never a quality I have found in any of my enemies, who only know one trick: Outnumber them and then get them to aggro. The One-trick ponies know who they are.
Drilla and others can re-post old posts until they are blue in the face. Policy change is something everyone goes through, and for us we felt that finishing off SE remnants and getting the current objective done was more important than going back to a policy statement months ago and see what to do next. We never anticipated that so many SE corps would join SA. Our corporation will always do what its members feel is best at the current time, and we will not be held hostage by PR statements and policy delcarations that were issued for a different set of circumstances. If you want to find a policy to lock us in to, then I will say that what VIRII wants from EVE is the same as what everyone else wants: Fun.
Well, not like it means anything in the grand scheme of things but hell, I don't think you're "bandwagoners" or "flip-flopers". Even if you do gank my vigils doing runs from empire :P (Warning for the kiddies, just cause you make it past HED-GP, please watch local and don't jump into bubbles)
Politics change. Deals are brokered, objectives evolve, it's natural and necessary. Good luck to all of Virii, see you in a bubble near you.
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Posted - 2005.09.12 17:05:00 -
[60]
Originally by: EB Xile
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Bandwagons 4tw.
Bandwagons? We were killing SE before it became cool. We are not aligned with [5] in any form, if we see them, we shoot them. Now, the politics that led to our alignment with SA is entirely different. As our objective was: Destroy Stain Empire. Now, we are stuck in an odd situation. We were Allied with SA before [5]'s declaration of support who up to that time had been backing SE.
Now, here comes the tricky part for the rest of you folks. We decided to KEEP our alignment and finish off SE, because we are men of our word. Because [5] is a bunch of nap-a-holics doesnt mean we should change our stance toward SA. Our policy is proactive and reactive, not stagnent.
oh, btw there is no bandwagon...
But I thought that was the reason you guys started shooting SE... hmm... gotta love the politics of convenience. Basically, it had nothing to do with [.5.]. It had to do with SE being much easier targets.
Most people don't really care what the reason is that you decide to shoot someone as long as your honest. But they do notice and remember when you make something up and don't follow through with it. All in all though, I don't think this announcement really changes anything for SE though. VIRII have been shooting at them for a while now.
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Posted - 2005.09.12 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: EB Xile
an odd situation. We were Allied with SA before [5]'s declaration of support who up to that time had been backing SE.
Um, no
Originally by: EB Xile
Now, here comes the tricky part for the rest of you folks. We decided to KEEP our alignment and finish off SE, because we are men of our word.
ROFLMAO, yes YOU finished them off!
Originally by: EB Xile
Because [5] is a bunch of nap-a-holics doesnt mean we should change our stance toward SA.
How many NAP's you got?
SA
Whats left of XF
Whats left of Foundation
Whats left of RA
Seems there is a re-occuring theme
Originally by: EB Xile
Our policy is proactive and reactive, not stagnent.
oh, btw there is no bandwagon...
gobledy****
You corp is nothing but one of 1000 other poinless gank corps. You continue to play pre-exodus eve and you will contiune to be left to the sands of time.
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Posted - 2005.09.12 17:25:00 -
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LOL so when the real SA pvp'ers take over the SE carebears virii push the nap button.
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Posted - 2005.09.12 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: Saladin on 12/09/2005 17:55:38
Originally by: zergrush keke
LOL so when the real SA pvp'ers take over the SE carebears virii push the nap button.
Actually we were the ones approached with the idea, we did not suggest it. The SA corps recognized VIRII's position as one of the main powerbrokers in the area and given past relations between MASS and VIRII, it was natural that we were approached and accepted the offer. VIRII looks forward to working with SA corporations to develop PvP oppurtunities and we are certain that this cooperation will be fruitful and will bring peace and harmony to Stain.
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Posted - 2005.09.12 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Nuclear Option
You corp is nothing but one of 1000 other poinless gank corps. You continue to play pre-exodus eve and you will contiune to be left to the sands of time.
We might be nothing ... but seems we got you to waste your time and post on a " pointless gank corp " ... so maybe we are more then you let on .... who knows ... guess the sands of time will tell :)
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Posted - 2005.09.12 18:17:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Nuclear Option
Originally by: EB Xile
an odd situation. We were Allied with SA before [5]'s declaration of support who up to that time had been backing SE.
Um, no
Originally by: EB Xile
Now, here comes the tricky part for the rest of you folks. We decided to KEEP our alignment and finish off SE, because we are men of our word.
ROFLMAO, yes YOU finished them off!
Originally by: EB Xile
Because [5] is a bunch of nap-a-holics doesnt mean we should change our stance toward SA.
How many NAP's you got?
SA
Whats left of XF
Whats left of Foundation
Whats left of RA
Seems there is a re-occuring theme
Originally by: EB Xile
Our policy is proactive and reactive, not stagnent.
oh, btw there is no bandwagon...
gobledy****
You corp is nothing but one of 1000 other poinless gank corps. You continue to play pre-exodus eve and you will contiune to be left to the sands of time.
ok alt boy you sound like a ****ed off main from SE who got ganked, beat in fair group battles and are just generally flaming the post. our tactics work well. SE couldnt deal with us effectively.
As for our naps, we usually dont band wagon. We were approached and we took the offer. as we had common objectives
If you noticed the context of my post, we decided on an objective and are bent on finishing it. Not that we single handedly killed SE.
As for the 1000 other gank corps yeah, compared to the 5000 other carebear corps who cant pvp and post with alts cause they are frustrated that a corp 1/200th the size rendered their carebear alliance ineffective. Nuclear Option go crawl back under the roid you crawled out from under.
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Posted - 2005.09.12 18:34:00 -
[66]
Originally by: EB Xile
ok alt boy you sound like a ****ed off main from SE who got ganked, beat in fair group battles and are just generally flaming the post. our tactics work well. SE couldnt deal with us effectively.
Yes, because ganking npc'ers and miners is such a difficult chore in Eve. It also accomplishes so much in post-exodus eve.
Maybe you should get with the times?
Originally by: EB Xile
As for our naps, we usually dont band wagon. We were approached and we took the offer. as we had common objectives
If you noticed the context of my post, we decided on an objective and are bent on finishing it. Not that we single handedly killed SE.
Silly us, we though your objective was to kill friends of [5].
I guess that was just your logic 'at the time'. Your credibily is lacking.
Originally by: EB Xile
they are frustrated that a corp 1/200th the size rendered their carebear alliance ineffective.
Your math matches your pvp skills I see
VIRII - 47 Members on paper
So, that means there are 5000 carebear corps with 9400 members? That means there are atleast 47 million characters in Eve. Now, if we divide that by three (3 slots per account) that means there are 15.6M accounts in Eve.
Be sure to listen to your 5th grade teacher now that school is back in session.
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Posted - 2005.09.12 18:35:00 -
[67]
Originally by: EB Xile
ok alt boy you sound like a ****ed off main from SE who got ganked, beat in fair group battles and are just generally flaming the post. our tactics work well. SE couldnt deal with us effectively.
How in the hell can you gank someone in fair combat?
I will admit that SE found it hard to deal with VIRII uber l337 tatics of ganking, SS and logging.
Fair combat, I doubt it.
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Posted - 2005.09.12 19:00:00 -
[68]
Edited by: EB Xile on 12/09/2005 19:02:41
Edit: Credibility is a percieved thing, just because you dont think we have any is based upon your judgement of our situation. Others who judge our situation a different way see us as having credibility.
ok, nuclear option, your last arguement does not even make sense. As the 5000 carebear corps i was being rediculous, following your trend with the "1000" gank corps. /me hands skill book for "logic in arguement"
Shivan, we have engaged multiple times outnumbered, but you never realized that. We docked when we did not have sufficent numbers to combat you in a manner which atmost was equal. When we did, we undocked and owned you.
But species wasnt really even a part of who we attacked, you guys were to busy mining in FAT to care about others in your alliance. The only resistance that was even noticeable was I-E, Dev1l, IGS and A-E. out of those corps, IE and dev1l were the best.
Nuclear, grow a pair and come to LGK with your main, Id love to see you there. Ill be waiting. (I wont hold my breath tho)
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Posted - 2005.09.12 19:12:00 -
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Your latest bandwagoneering is not such a big deal.
Most of us just look at your original announcement of "attacking SE cause they are allies of the 5" as one big joke. You wrote essays about it back then, and now looks like it was all Olyy's projections of grandeur. Olyy never made anyone look good.
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Posted - 2005.09.12 19:49:00 -
[70]
Personally I find it more interesting that BOB nap:ed SA after their long "relationship" with SE, but I don't know the full story so that's probably not really weird at all either.
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:22:00 -
[71]
I didn't realize how much everyone looked up to us for not hopping on the bandwagon prior to our recent decision.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:27:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Band Zior
Your latest bandwagoneering is not such a big deal.
Most of us just look at your original announcement of "attacking SE cause they are allies of the 5" as one big joke. You wrote essays about it back then, and now looks like it was all Olyy's projections of grandeur. Olyy never made anyone look good.
I had nothing to do with the decision to attack SE and personnaly I spent rather most of my time in Tenerifis hunting Supremacy and their sponsored corps, thing that I did directly or not. I came back to stain for 2 reasons, first being that people in tenerifis knew my ships, setups and had me in their adress book making hunting extremly difficult, second being that I wanted to get more involved in corp operations.
I'm far from being perfect, but at least I when I post crap I do it with my main character
And damn it, it's olyyy with 3 "y"...
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:28:00 -
[73]
Ah...nothing like the smell of smack in the morning.
It is interesting that we seem to have developed a sort of fanbase of posters in our threads (SE and their forum alts, I'm looking at you) looking for any reason to get their 14 year old hormonal keyboard beating on.
And to those that come in here and spam things like OMG VIRII SSes AND LOGS AND SITS IN A STATION *cough* Species members *cough*, so when you guys bring an illogical amount of players to fight, why should we sit there and get ganked? And if we insta-safespot and log...get some scan probes? I apologize if you guys needed the morale boost by trying to kill more of us.
Now, rewind to two months ago when SE was an "alliance". We rarely, if even ever, saw Species attempt to assist their fellow corporations in the defense against our corporation's activities in the Stain/Catch region. The corporations that attempted to resist had to be...Interstellar Exodus and... Intergalactic Senerity, of course there were other corps sometimes involved in the gangs, but these were the only two corps that even made an attempt at stopping us.
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:32:00 -
[74]
you should beg Nafri for a sig virt 
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:33:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Nafri on 12/09/2005 20:34:39
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
you should beg Nafri for a sig virt
Dont sell me again!
but a bit of pink would suit his portrait for sure
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:35:00 -
[76]
Don't tell me you aren't for sale Especially since I can get you for free 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:37:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Don't tell me you aren't for sale Especially since I can get you for free
but but but, I thought I'm special too you, and your special too me 
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:39:00 -
[78]
I said that to get you. But I have to tell you, I'm jealous of you and Eris now.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:40:00 -
[79]
and besides, I think I make a character named olyy and make him look like him. Then I go to forums and start hell
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:42:00 -
[80]
I'll sue you !
Oh well, could be fun tho 
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:43:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
I'll sue you !
Oh well, could be fun tho
I could make a statement to support SE, while you make a statement to support SA
and then we can check who will people trust!
I bet Olyy will win!
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:45:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
I'm far from being perfect, but at least I when I post crap I do it with my main character
And damn it, it's olyyy with 3 "y"...
So post with your main already and remind us how it is spelled. It's been so long we forgot.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:46:00 -
[83]
I feel so abused
Well I guess a troublemaker creating troubles would sound logical to people
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:52:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Band Zior
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
I'm far from being perfect, but at least I when I post crap I do it with my main character
And damn it, it's olyyy with 3 "y"...
So post with your main already and remind us how it is spelled. It's been so long we forgot.
Noooo, its our secret. Only, me, my alt, my other alt, and the rest of the alt army knows!
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:53:00 -
[85]
Fear the alt army !
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HokeyPokey Knight
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Posted - 2005.09.12 20:54:00 -
[86]
wel ganking is the way in eve pvp
gank and runn as hell
has nothing todo with good fair fights
and now se gooing to do the same against sa,, why ? because its imposseble to keep people out of sytems/regions with eve game mechanics, and ganking gets nice kills and low losses (atleast if your a good ganker)
i dont blaim anyone dooing this as it is a succesfull tactic
yust dont feel that you need to claim you do fair fights
that yust looks like you dont like your own tactics
and people keep up with the topics and reply's.
nice reading material
so this civil war has led to a new pirate corp/alliance named se, that is gooing to gank everyone in stain space
and a unstable stain alliance with people that cant trust eachother
so both party's lost
now to wait for a alliance to takeover the regions and erase sa and se 
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Posted - 2005.09.12 21:00:00 -
[87]
Oi, that were lots of paragrafs
I bet 5 isk on RA invading IMP within the next 5 mins
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Posted - 2005.09.12 21:08:00 -
[88]
You lost, now send me the 5 isk.
You can't be me for plots anyway
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.09.12 21:09:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
You lost, now send me the 5 isk.
You can't be me for plots anyway
Ill just hax your PC and copy the "Ebil Plot" folder on your desktop?
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Posted - 2005.09.12 21:10:00 -
[90]
That folder would prolly take you a week to copy
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.09.12 21:12:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
That folder would prolly take you a week to copy
I have holidays, np
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Posted - 2005.09.12 21:17:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Scorpyn
Personally I find it more interesting that BOB nap:ed SA after their long "relationship" with SE, but I don't know the full story so that's probably not really weird at all either.
Please find or provide proof of BoB taking any sides in the current southern drama.
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Posted - 2005.09.12 21:36:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Scorpyn
Personally I find it more interesting that BOB nap:ed SA after their long "relationship" with SE, but I don't know the full story so that's probably not really weird at all either.
Please find or provide proof of BoB taking any sides in the current southern drama.
Why? I already said I don't know the full story. I don't claim to have evidence of anything.
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.09.12 22:17:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Scorpyn
Personally I find it more interesting that BOB nap:ed SA after their long "relationship" with SE, but I don't know the full story so that's probably not really weird at all either.
Please find or provide proof of BoB taking any sides in the current southern drama.
BoB didnt get involved, so much respect there.
Does anyone else think this is gonna turn into another BoB thread?
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Posted - 2005.09.12 22:26:00 -
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Well i can say this with certainty. The first 3/4 days after virii came down Priory did their best to engage them. Unfortunatly we didnt get many fights...actually i dont remember anything significant at all...
After the first two days i just gave up trying to fight you guys because you ran away. Every time. The only way we eventually killed some of you during the course of you being down there was in turn, ganking you. Now dont get me wrong, you did what you did very well. You took out miners and npc'ers and withdrew (albeit very quickly) when someone with a pvp setup engaged you. I would have used very similar tactics had i been in Virii. What really really gets me is the idiots within Virii who think that because they can gank a few miners means they are excellent pvp'ers. There were 3 members of Virii who i thought were decent. One i forget who, he knows who he is i corrected him on the accidental "Friends of SE" in his bio which was swiftly changed. Second was Andy Falke because he didnt smacktalk, and thirdly Neuron - who is just special :) lol. The most pathetic of the lot was William Dampier, who just sat afk in the LGK station 90% of the time i was there, and has really irritated me with these posts.
So there you have it folks, yes virii killed a fair few battleships of people who cant watch local and/or just screwed up. Also yes before i get flamed i belive they did kill a few Priory ships. But let us not forget, Mirage i think it was, podded twice in 45mins and 3 times in an evening. Guys you did your job, and destablaised the centre of SE space. Well done, however a lot of corps could have done it, and probably more effectively. To turn around and NAP an ally of 5 is pure political bull, and has been proved by Shivan. Nothing you say to try to justify your actions could frankly be credible in the least. Now i know im going to get smacktalked here, just try and keep it relatively civil please :)
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Posted - 2005.09.12 22:32:00 -
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I was going to respond to this thread and point out a few things which people should note. Things such as the people who claim we gank and safespot are the same people that send three times our numbers to engage us and expect us to throw ourselves at them. That those same people have, and know they have lost several fights when we engaged significantly outnumbered. I had thought about pointing out that I have lost about five ships since I came to stain, one of those was in a fairly even fight, one of those was in a 1v1 with creamster where I got overconfident when I saw him go into armor and didn't want him to get away (props to you and your plated crow), and the other three were guess what.......(oh hell I'll just tell you) they were omgwtfbbqpwnedurass ganks.
I was going to mention that the same people who claim we are "station huggers" are the same people that camp lgk with 30 toons while we have 10, apparently expecting us to undock. I was also going to mention how when the numbers drop to anything remotely even, they are very aware of what usually follows.
I was going to talk about how VIRII has received some very nice offers to join alliances, which we have unfortunately had to decline as we have/had other goals at the time. Perhaps mention that I think it's fairly safe to say we could join "nearly" any alliance in the game if we wanted to settle down.
I was also going to point out that the people that say we're stuck in the past and using "pre-exodus" tactics still haven't come up with a way to stop them. That these people are the same ones that create a 200 man fleet and jump it into another 200 man fleet and then create numerous threads on the forums complaining about lag and their inability to fight. That these same people whine and complain and petition until they get their ship back and then go about repeating the same process expecting different results the next week.
I had even considered discussing how there were never certainties in EVE as there is always the human factor. Priorities change, goals change, and people change. This was the point I came to the conclusion I didn't really care what those people thought anyway and changed my focus.
I have come to a realization on a personal level perhaps I hadn't even admitted to myself until the last few weeks. I came to stain to make them pay for their sins....
The south could have been strong, they had the right idea, however they couldn't have gone about implementation in a worse way. The people were there, the tools were there but instead of using them and building relationships you let the wolf into the henhouse and hoped he'd be satisfied with his first meal (Xetic). Since that time he's devoured Foundation (V wouldn't have taken GW without [5]'s help), RA, now apparently SE and now it's becoming blatantly obvious it seems the remaining entities are catching on.
The only two groups I had ties to in the game were Xetic (due to personal respect to Olyyy), and Foundation (old friends). These were the groups you let down. I blame you more for their downfall than the [5] and friends, because those groups were doing what everyone should expect them to do. The people who we should expect more from and failed to deliver are the people who I will do my best to make sure they pay their dues. For some it's time to reap the whirlwind you helped sow, for others your time is not far off.
These are my comments, not necessarily those of VIRII, CCP, the online gaming community, or any other group with ties known or unknown to myself.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.09.12 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: Saladin on 12/09/2005 22:31:55
Quite frankly I don't recall seeing Priory fighting at all, tho I am supposee they could be in one of the 15 pilot gangs that ganked me.
As for running from every engagement, thats a load of bull****. I specifically recall our 6 battleships jumping into a stain camp of 8 battleships in X1E, we killed 4 and took no losses. There was also the station fight where 3-4 of our battleships undocked and engaged 5 SE battleships, killing one before the others fled. As for killing people in belts, well yeah we did that too, like anyone attacking an alliance does.
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Weeman
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Posted - 2005.09.12 22:34:00 -
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We moved out of LGK about a week and a bit after you arrived to our own station in Catch. Im just reporting what i experianced and tbh i didnt see you down there at all. Mebee diff timezone or whatever, but in the first week or so it was only the same 5/6 people that i saw repeatedly
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Kragg Malak
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Posted - 2005.09.12 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: shivan
I will admit that SE found it hard to deal with VIRII uber l337 tatics of ganking, SS and logging.
Fair combat, I doubt it.
k maybe you shouldnt wave that "SS and logging" card too hard, because that was SE's only reply when someone would ask for help in alliance chat for the 2-3 weeks i was there (SS and log m8). It was also Cujo and Major Riven's advice for when small squads found themselves separated from the main gang in the SE CTA. (much respect goes to Konzul Protek, he was the only one with the balls to fight at any odds).
Also, i dont think i've seen one member of species anywhere near where the virii guys were operating for 3 weeks. If you'd have been there, you'd have seen that they fight even when outnumbered. The last fight that we (IEEX) had against them, they were outnumbered 5 to 2 and still fought, even though they would have had a chance to flee.
I got ganked a couple of times by virii, it ****ed me off, but i can still appreciate their skills.
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William Dampier
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Posted - 2005.09.13 00:17:00 -
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Alt says blah blah blah... do you guys not realize that posting with alts just make your corporation and or alliance look even more cowardly? I mean really have balls to say what you say under a real name, but thats a broken record some people are just born cowards and that transfers to everything they do in life which means they do stuff like post anonymously in forums about a stupid computer game, seriously its ridicules, but whatever flips your skirts up ladies if you are happy and sleep well at night knowing you are a coward by all means continue posting with your alts.
Now to the people that actually have the balls to post under a real name that want to try and discredit our skills, I'm not gonna waste my time discrediting you with facts, it's pretty simple, I will match my team up with any team you can assemble in the game man for man, period. You think we suck, all we can do is gank, fine put your money where your mouth is get some of your buddies together send us an amount you want to bet let us know a time, place and ship class you want to get it on in a fair fight and we will see.
As far as you go weeman, I don't even know who you are don't think I ever seen you in stain but yeah I am logged on quite a lot, I try and stay logged on 23 hours a day, I pay for around 690 hours a month and try and use every minute of it, because I don't want my schedule patterns known by my enemy, quite a few of us make use of this tactic because we live almost exclusively in hostile territory and have done so since we left CA. The idea is to keep your enemy off guard by not letting him know when you are going to smack him in the mouth, but I am glad that you acknowledged it bothers you, news flash causing your enemy frustration is a bonus. As for the 90% nonsense, I'm glad you have such fine statistics, but I read somewhere that 85% of all statistics were made up, and even if the 90% were accurate, its the 10% thats important and in that 10% I do plenty. You want to talk **** about me or my corp fine see above I will be expecting a priory invitation to a money match soon so you can put your money where your mouth is.
As far as us being stuck in pre-exodus tactics or whatever, its as dumb an argument as this ganking crap... like any of you let the 1 hostile pilot go that happens to jump into your 20 man fleet, get real. You see all these best PvPers threads and this and that about how good certain people are or whatever well here is a tip for you, the name on the front of the jersey is a lot more important then the name on the back, the people that grasp that are successful in this game. As long as you play as a team pre-this or post-that someone is going to have to match that level of commitment and unity to beat you, and thats a tall order for most people in this or any game, hell its a tall order in real life situations.
Now you all can continue to post on this thread all you want saying how we say this and do that, and we will keep doing what we do, which is kill whoever we decide to, whenever we decide to, wherever we decide to... all the while knowing there ain't a damn thing anyone can do about it...
V I R I I HeadQuarters
http://virii.homeip.net
V I R I I - We Are Here For Your Daughters
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Weeman
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Posted - 2005.09.13 08:11:00 -
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Mate your tactics didnt bother me one bit, its your crpa that you're posting. Take the time to actually read what i said.
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super4lt
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Posted - 2005.09.13 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: William Dampier
Alt says blah blah blah... do you guys not realize that posting with alts just make your corporation and or alliance look even more cowardly? I mean really have balls to say what you say under a real name, but thats a broken record some people are just born cowards and that transfers to everything they do in life which means they do stuff like post anonymously in forums about a stupid computer game, seriously its ridicules, but whatever flips your skirts up ladies if you are happy and sleep well at night knowing you are a coward by all means continue posting with your alts.
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Super4lt calls William Dampier a hypocrite. If William Dampier had admitted he uses alts like all other then super4lt might have had positive standings towards virii. But since virii is nothing more than a group of imature players that are after other peoples daughters super4lt is forced to post in this thread.
Super4lt is here to let yall know what time it is
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Loka
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Posted - 2005.09.13 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: super4lt
Super4lt calls William Dampier a hypocrite. If William Dampier had admitted he uses alts like all other then super4lt might have had positive standings towards virii. But since virii is nothing more than a group of imature players that are after other peoples daughters super4lt is forced to post in this thread.
He damn, the face on your sig look like Tholarim. Thol come out, i know its your alt
hehe nice sig j/k
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Kantar
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Posted - 2005.09.13 10:38:00 -
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Edited by: Kantar on 13/09/2005 10:39:49
Edited by: Kantar on 13/09/2005 10:38:52
Hmm all this fuss about Virii want to join us agaist SE.....
...about the bandwagon bit I honestly think SE pepps shouldnt even talk about it tbh.
Gave Fat to FIX and some of the high council corp trial for them.....talk about bandwagons???
Sorry but political change make some corp redifine theyr goals, thinks change in EVE whats as been sayed a month ago could well not apply now.
Thats the beauty of this game, events that happen around you (for not fault of your)make you rethink,take side,change standing or simply change the original plans.
So I dont see why they need to be arrass bcose months ago sayed somthing and now (with a totally new situation) change theyr goals as the events unfold.
Thats probably also the reason of all the other SE leaving the Alliance and FOFF join FIX etc etc.
I dont dispute that prolly if I was CEO of a corp I would do the same, thinking whats the best for my corp becose events in the last months change so much that i need to make a choise.
What I dont like is come in here is the smacktalk and the the BS ppl are saying to this guys but they for first have took that kind of choise,to ither run to Empire and live there or join other Alliance or just leave.
I bet none of you knew all this was goin to happen a month ago, so things how they change for you and effect your Corp are changing for other too.
So welcome Virii and have fun I hope you and SA will have a long lasting relationship.....till events change it.
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Pehova Mindtriq
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Posted - 2005.09.13 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: Pehova Mindtriq on 13/09/2005 12:43:20
As an ex-SE member I have to point out some things.
The pre-exodus tactic or whatever you are accusing virii of is hurting yourself. Alliance chat was always filled with remarks of how virii just safespotted or sat afk in the station and people believed it. Because of that people wasnt careful travelling through lgk and guess what? Those people died alot! To feel better about themselves they whined in alliance about how virii only gank. And then people started to believe in that aswell. And that is why alot of SE members think virii is bad at pvping. They just heard about it but never really been in contact with virii.
All this while SE-command encouraged members to blob because that way the enemy get bored and leave. Remeber the Alliance mail about camp in virii in the lgk station? If you really wanted a fight, was that a good way to get one?
Sure virii are scum but dont underestimate their pvp abilty.
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2005.09.13 13:13:00 -
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how can u even say that they join the bandwagon AFAIK VIRII was shooting se all the time and did so long before SA was made
Originally by: Eris Discordia
As a minmatar I have to say the only good Amarr is a dead Amarr
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super4lt
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Posted - 2005.09.13 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Loka
He damn, the face on your sig look like Tholarim. Thol come out, i know its your alt
hehe nice sig j/k
super4lt thanks Loka for the kind words regarding super4lts signature. However super4lt are forced to say that super4lt is not Tholarims alt since super4lt only knows Tholarim by name and not even in person. super4lt is complelty super and totally non-biased when it comes to threads in this folder.
Super4lt is here to let yall know what time it is
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