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Oealfirr
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Posted - 2005.09.12 12:46:00 -
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Hiyah 
I was just wondering if there's anything wrong with the roid respawn rate? My favourite system is a nice little quiet place with lovely omber, but no omber roids have respawned since friday. I have logged on and checked the belts right after each DT saturday, sunday and today. No omber. And the other oretypes don't look like they are growing either. Anybody else know anything about this?
Thank you! xxx
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Amataras
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Posted - 2005.09.12 13:07:00 -
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I may be wrong, but here's how I see it:
It may be that no one is mining the 'low-end' ore types.
When a roid respawns, its type is based on probability. This means that if you mined all the omber roids, some might respawn as scordite (for example). If you keep doing this, the omber gradually gets less and less.
Basically it means the system has been cleaned out of omber for the moment, but recovery can be sped up if someone mines out the scordite / veldspar to make way for new omber. I have done this in the past to make way for more pyroxeres in Amarr space and it seems to work.
In 0.0, alliances use a process called 'farming' to maintain a steady level of high-end ores for mining. -------------- The Eve Diplomacy Table |

Tharrn
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Posted - 2005.09.12 13:40:00 -
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Has it ever REALLY worked like that? In the systems I mine in (low-sec Empire) the same roids respawn in exactly the same locations every day.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.09.12 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Amataras I may be wrong, but here's how I see it:
It may be that no one is mining the 'low-end' ore types.
When a roid respawns, its type is based on probability. This means that if you mined all the omber roids, some might respawn as scordite (for example). If you keep doing this, the omber gradually gets less and less.
Basically it means the system has been cleaned out of omber for the moment, but recovery can be sped up if someone mines out the scordite / veldspar to make way for new omber. I have done this in the past to make way for more pyroxeres in Amarr space and it seems to work.
In 0.0, alliances use a process called 'farming' to maintain a steady level of high-end ores for mining.
I used to think that, but through analysis it is completely wrong.
Ores always respawn as what they were before. Period.
The problem is if you pop them, they take longer to respawn. -- Proud member of the [23].
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2005.09.12 14:05:00 -
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What do you consider a long respawn?
First off the MYTH of dont pop the roid is that, The time of growth does not take in consideration if there is roid to stick on! Its all math. Some systems will respawn ores differently. I bet 0.0 will respawn Veldspar fast!
The image or size of the roid is based on DT calculations of the ore content of the roid. You can leave 1 unit in a roid and it looks the same as if you have not touched it. It only exspoldes or stays there until DT.
I say dont be affraid of roids going POP. The security level of the system means everything! -------------------------- Does it matter why, its when is more crucial!
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B03S
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Posted - 2005.09.12 14:15:00 -
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Quote: Ores always respawn as what they were before. Period.
I seem te remember a patch in which a change in ore spawning was introduced. Every popped roid had a x% chance of respawning as a different type?
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Andrue
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Posted - 2005.09.12 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn Has it ever REALLY worked like that? In the systems I mine in (low-sec Empire) the same roids respawn in exactly the same locations every day.
That's my experience as well. So much so that I have adjusted my BMs accordingly so that they drop me at the places where the +10% roids are  -- (Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
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Kurren
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Posted - 2005.09.12 14:42:00 -
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As far as roid respawn goes, I could have swore they introduced a "spawn time/spawn chance" with them. Thus the "rare" roids n stuff. They'll only spawn in certain systems and with an x% chance... i dunno though... it's too damn early for me to recall, but... I could've swore I heard about that respawn "chance" as well.
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Andrue
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Posted - 2005.09.12 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kurren As far as roid respawn goes, I could have swore they introduced a "spawn time/spawn chance" with them. Thus the "rare" roids n stuff. They'll only spawn in certain systems and with an x% chance... i dunno though... it's too damn early for me to recall, but... I could've swore I heard about that respawn "chance" as well.
It was mentioned and I believe it 'should' be in place. It was an idea to help persuade people into low-sec empire space since it meant a chance of finding a hi-end roid. -- (Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2005.09.12 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: B03S
Quote: Ores always respawn as what they were before. Period.
I seem te remember a patch in which a change in ore spawning was introduced. Every popped roid had a x% chance of respawning as a different type?
Was supposed to be in Exodus but apparently didn't make it in. At least I have *never* seen even a single Jaspet roid in 0.5 - and I tried hard for a while as I thought the new system had been introduced, too.
Industrial stuff always gets the short end of the stick :/
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assaaf
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Posted - 2005.09.12 16:36:00 -
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i noticed that high end roids respawn about once a week after being popped. They always respawn exactly at the same spot as same type of ore.
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2005.09.12 16:53:00 -
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Ahh another roid respawn question which would definately need a DEV response, and of course which we won't get. gg
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Ratzap
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Posted - 2005.09.12 21:52:00 -
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1) It's always exactly the same rocks 2) In a 0.5 at least and after many clearances of multiple belts, 2 days max for everything to repop.
Leave a belt a week before reharvesting for max profit. People come along and pick the iso ores out but for the mass miner, that's not profitable. Fighting over a few aenemic omber or kern rocks is timewasting, time = ore units and ore units = isk...
Fixating over one ore type means more time when you're moving/hauling and less pulling in ore.
Ratzap
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.09.12 22:09:00 -
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Bear in mind that as roid respawn has a large element of DT processing in it, it could well have been thrown a bit by the problems over the weekend. Certainly not the first time I'd have seen it happen. Ususally settles down after a day or so though.
Having said that, omber in 0.5 does usually take a few days to respawn. I'm rarely able to farm the same belt for it twice in one weekend.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2005.09.12 22:09:00 -
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Unfortunatly cash miners are too stupid to realize that if you only go after one type of ore the respawn will take forever. Well cashminers are stupid anyways, whenever you sell any ore you're basicly just giving away free money.
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