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Meytal
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.11 14:21:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:Senn Denroth wrote: I had no grudge with TL so I think they didn't deserve it. Same with the rest of EVE.
Considering the amount of people wanting to help us/stayed neutral, I would say that statement is dubious.
What makes you think you know who liked or disliked TL? Who do you think you are, a TL diplo or something?
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Malception
Cold Moon Destruction
Transmission Lost
124
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Posted - 2013.04.11 15:11:00 -
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Draconic Slayer, once he hits puberty, will likely be TL's next diplo. I apologize in advance to all wormholers. |
Incindir Mauser
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
180
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Posted - 2013.04.11 15:18:00 -
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Bronya Boga wrote:Tanaka Atsuko wrote:Round 2 Fight! LOOK ITS A TEST GUY. GET HIM. *hoping this severely derailed thread ends*
*checks The Horse*
I think it's dead.
Wait... wait....
NOPE! Nope it's still alive.
Where's my .30-06?
*shuffles off to the gun cabinet* |
AleksandrZ
Dopey Swordfish
7
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Posted - 2013.04.11 21:51:00 -
[184] - Quote
I just want to be in this thread... great read, people died, amazing. Setting every wh corp blue for(to?) myself.. so you guys should be okay now. |
QT McWhiskers
Hard Knocks Inc.
126
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Posted - 2013.04.11 22:31:00 -
[185] - Quote
Should I rename this thread? Days of our WHs. or All my Wormholers. As the Hole Turns. Better yet, General WH. |
Hidden Fremen
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
107
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Posted - 2013.04.11 22:55:00 -
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Chi'Nane T'Kal wrote:Rek Seven wrote:I have a question for everyone:
Should the major wormhole alliances sign some sort of non intervention pact to help govern invasions/evictions?
Effectively this would mean if one alliance invaded another wormhole, the defenders would be "breaking the rules" if they batphone for help. You'd have to get the leaders of the big WH alliances together and agree on an _intervention_ pact instead. If an alliance is attacked by a coalition (i.e. more than one alliance working coordinated), Wspace UNO would be forced/obliged to intervene against that coalition - for a fixed amount of time and/or until eviction from their major WHs.
What? No? Shut all this **** up already! Keep Wspace unrefined. Stop all this bureaucracy! Nine pages of nonsense... |
MisterAl tt1
Pretenders Inc
W-Space
46
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Posted - 2013.04.12 09:01:00 -
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My 2 isks:
People guarding their home are:
1. Motivated
2. Usually have more caps then attackers
3. Can choose the time of battle (preferably to be maximum pain in the butt for the attacker) like these guys did: http://dontshootx.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=15299
4. Can phone in extra people (I think we all have "sleeping capitals" in our systems)
5. Can change fleet doctrine, if having prepared ships (attackers are limited to what they've brought)
6. Can buttphone
The attackers
1. have to be ready for non-friendly hole any time of day
2. Have to be ready to fight any time of day and night
3. Can butthpone for more, if found themselves surprisingly outnumbered
And so on.
Having this in mind, one corporation/alliance can not evict another of similar size and activity/skill on its own. I take it for granted. So a need arise for extra hands. The question is what is seen as "needed numbers" - different sides of conflict have different understandings for that: attackers understand they need more then defenders have, defenders usually see it unfair.
So it goes: one side brings extra depending on what they see fit for the task. The other one starts buttphoning "they've brought more then we have! HALP!" and there it goes... Not that I like that, but history does not ask.
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Rengas
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
134
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Posted - 2013.04.12 11:54:00 -
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QT McWhiskers wrote:Should I rename this thread? Days of our WHs. or All my Wormholers. As the Hole Turns. Better yet, General WH.
The Worm and the Holers. J90210. One Tree Wormhill. BoB's Anatomy. |
Vincent Gaines
Cold Moon Destruction
Transmission Lost
348
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Posted - 2013.04.12 14:03:00 -
[189] - Quote
For the love of Bob, lock this thread.
Not a diplo.-á
The above post was edited for spelling. |
Archdaimon
NorCorp Enterprise
No Holes Barred
179
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Posted - 2013.04.12 14:11:00 -
[190] - Quote
Bob's Anatomy wins. Hands down!
Wormholes has the best accoustics. It's known.
- Sing it for me - |
Rek Seven
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD
Polarized.
668
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Posted - 2013.04.12 14:40:00 -
[191] - Quote
Game of Holes.
Winter is coming...
Is my bitter vet membership card in the mail? |
AutumnWind1983
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
28
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Posted - 2013.04.12 16:16:00 -
[192] - Quote
bob's creek? the young and the holeless?
James Arget for CSM 8! http://csm.fcftw.org |
Vincent Gaines
Cold Moon Destruction
Transmission Lost
349
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Posted - 2013.04.12 16:52:00 -
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Vincent Gaines wrote:For the love of Bob, lock this thread.
Completely empty quoting.
Not a diplo.-á
The above post was edited for spelling. |
Sorany
Hard Knocks Inc.
62
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Posted - 2013.04.12 17:10:00 -
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this game is a sandbox.
your opinion really doesn't matter because in the end nothing is going to stop this from happening.
if i wanted to play a game where nothing bad ever happened there are more than a few that can fill that void.
however, that game is not this game. |
Kalel Nimrott
EG CORP
Talocan United
226
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Posted - 2013.04.12 17:18:00 -
[195] - Quote
I want to play eve in safe mode, please. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
267
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Posted - 2013.04.12 17:21:00 -
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Vincent Gaines wrote:
That's not good if you're a diplo.
Just sayin'
Sorry, Just saw this, you think QT is a diplo? Wat
Also, this thread was a good read
Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour..
Ayeson for CSM8 |
Vincent Gaines
Cold Moon Destruction
Transmission Lost
349
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Posted - 2013.04.12 17:31:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:
Sorry, Just saw this, you think QT is a diplo? Wat
Also, this thread was a good read
huh?
that was in response to Bane, who is a diplo.
Not a diplo.-á
The above post was edited for spelling. |
QT McWhiskers
Hard Knocks Inc.
128
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Posted - 2013.04.12 17:40:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:Vincent Gaines wrote:
That's not good if you're a diplo.
Just sayin'
Sorry, Just saw this, you think QT is a diplo? Wat Also, this thread was a good read
If I were ever a diplo the WH nation would devolve into a cacophony of sperging forum trolls and meaningless evictions.
Other than a few gems of posts, this thread has been dead since page three. Seriously funny though. |
CeNSeR
Jazz Associates
Azgoths of Kria
21
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Posted - 2013.04.12 17:53:00 -
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Riverini For CSM 8,9 and 10 guy's that dude is awsum. |
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ISD Flidais Asagiri
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
85
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Posted - 2013.04.12 19:57:00 -
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Greetings
While I appreciate the enthusiasm with which this thread is growing, it is grossly off topic and starting to look like people are trying to derail it. Please stay on topic and continue with a lively discussion.
On On
ISD Flidais Asagiri
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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Kalel Nimrott
EG CORP
Talocan United
226
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Posted - 2013.04.12 21:02:00 -
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Ppl want this close and you leave it open?
Psichology 1.... |
dark dreamur
Wormhole Exploration Crew
R.E.P.O.
24
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Posted - 2013.04.13 00:01:00 -
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it wasn't long ago that insidious design were in the same situation, a corp that brought fights when and as it could, talocan united combined with TL evicted us, now the boots on the other foot and TL are crying unfair?
Evictions happen not for good fights but because a group (corp or alliance) make enough enemy's that combine and take the transgressors out, no one likes to evict, its boring and rarely eventful, occasionally brightened by tears in local or a random fight, but they do serve a purpose, it is a last resort after an organization has upset enough of the wh community. I don't think we have seen the last of evictions, remove evictions and what is the end course of action ? what motivation is there to be a constructive positive member of our community.
TL are a voracious group of players, strong in spirit and unity I look forward to you guys being back on your feet, I also hope it has given you an opportunity to reflect an make changes as it did to us in insidious design |
Vincent Gaines
Cold Moon Destruction
Transmission Lost
355
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Posted - 2013.04.13 12:41:00 -
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Insidious had Night Beagle.
Not a diplo.-á
The above post was edited for spelling. |
dark dreamur
Wormhole Exploration Crew
R.E.P.O.
25
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Posted - 2013.04.13 16:01:00 -
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Vincent Gaines wrote:Insidious had Night Beagle.
yeah......... thankfully he was out of game during my time, but that's a different story , and thread
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Aquila Sagitta
Risk-Averse
PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
7
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Posted - 2013.04.15 08:29:00 -
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I started reading this thread with the opinion that wh alliances shouldn't evict other wh alliances that frequently pvp. Now after reading this ENTIRE thread I've had some good laughs and changed my opinion of evicting pvp'ing alliances from W-space. EVE is a sandbox game and you can't dictate how any one plays this fine internet spaceship game! If an alliance decides to evict some other alliance from wh space who are we to tell them no? If said alliances have the will and the way to evict/defend their home so be it! Let the pew pew commence! I for one CHOSE to live in wh space for the great fights. Yes you get blobbed. Yes you blob other people. Its the way of EVE! And not often enough you get a truly great fight where winners and losers tell tales of the epicness that happened!
If your fighting 'fair' your doing it wrong!
After saying that I've taken part in many 3v3's or 5v5's that have been set up in wh local. Honor is difficult to gain but easily lost and if I engaged in a xvx fight and the other guys decided to break that agreement I'd remember that in the future and not try to do that again with them! Simple as that! Of course i'd be mad that they broke the agreement but expecting to invade a wh and get 1v1 alliance fight is naive. Every invasion I EXPECT the defenders to bat phone. You must plan for this accordingly and pick your targets wisely because of this! If you can't take on their expected batphone numbers then you don't invade. Of course there are times when you invade someone and they bring more people then you expect. Its at these times I believe its ok call in some wh bros to get a GF. But not until that has happened do I think its ok to bring in the 'Coalition'.
If your not big/good enough to take the defending guys in there expected batphone state then you shouldn't be invading them! |
QT McWhiskers
Hard Knocks Inc.
128
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Posted - 2013.04.15 16:24:00 -
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Thats an interesting take on the whole spin. If you aren't big or powerful enough to take on the defenders and their batphones, dont invade. I wonder what you mean by this. Usually people arent powerful enough to handle batphone by themselves, unless the batphones are similarly small scrub groups. Thats why you never see just one major group invading another major group.
I cant recall or find a single case of one major entity invading another major entity alone. Even back to the days of the Aharm invasion of CCRES. Aharm called in backup from mercs. (No offense to Aharm that was an impressive feat back then) |
Vincent Gaines
Cold Moon Destruction
Transmission Lost
360
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Posted - 2013.04.15 16:37:00 -
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Aquila Sagitta wrote:
If your not big/good enough to take the defending guys in there expected batphone state then you shouldn't be invading them!
Considering where my spaceship currently is, I find your post ironic.
That being said, I don't disagree with invasions. I disagree with some of the ways in which they've been done. This being a sandbox game I welcome those ways. It doesn't mean I have to enjoy it.
Not a diplo.-á
The above post was edited for spelling. |
Indo Nira
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD
Polarized.
50
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Posted - 2013.04.15 23:05:00 -
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Vincent Gaines wrote:Aquila Sagitta wrote:
If your not big/good enough to take the defending guys in there expected batphone state then you shouldn't be invading them!
Considering where my spaceship currently is, I find your post ironic. That being said, I don't disagree with invasions. I disagree with some of the ways in which they've been done. This being a sandbox game I welcome those ways. It doesn't mean I have to enjoy it.
oh what you mean this?
wrote:
Make sure you join joint comms and LOST comms before you log in if you are in the target system. We don't want to give away the element of surprise.
POC will be Myself, Terumah, or Awing.
Friendly POS comes out of Reo in exactly 1 day 10 minutes from now. So be on comms before hand ready to log in.
Regards,
Torshawna
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Vincent Gaines
Cold Moon Destruction
Transmission Lost
365
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Posted - 2013.04.16 00:21:00 -
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oh no, not our alliance mail!
Time to go, the jig is up boys.
I, too, use eve skunk
Not a diplo.-á
The above post was edited for spelling. |
Aquila Sagitta
Risk-Averse
PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
8
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Posted - 2013.04.17 05:09:00 -
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Vincent Gaines wrote:Aquila Sagitta wrote:
If your not big/good enough to take the defending guys in there expected batphone state then you shouldn't be invading them!
Considering where my spaceship currently is, I find your post ironic. That being said, I don't disagree with invasions. I disagree with some of the ways in which they've been done. This being a sandbox game I welcome those ways. It doesn't mean I have to enjoy it.
forum ate my post D:
These are my views and not necessarily shared by my entire alliance.
My guys got alittle anxious when solar came in to bail these guys out. Was surprised they did. When I heard a diplo had been poking around to see who was available I was upset. However, I'm glad you were here! Whether or not we needed the help can be up for debate but I think we could have handled this wh ourselves. Too bad the fight wasn't better  |
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